From - Tue Jun 19 19:09:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:09:51 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit birdog wrote: > Couple of nights ago I watched most of a program entitled "The Little Ice > Age" on the History Channel. A couple of times they brought in the Gulf > Stream alteration and Artic ice melt as the cause. Of course, global warming > was the cause of the ice melt. Since the Little Ice Age preceeded our > present CO2 crisis, obviously human activity did not cause the melt. They > did not dwell on that fact. > > One item they mentioned I hadn't heard before, that in the volcanic > emissions, it was sulpher, not CO2, that effected global climate. > > All in all, if I were going to panic, it would from another ice age, not > warming, that would wad my skivvies. That's the tone I got from the program. > This AGM thingy gets curiouser and curiouser. > > According to Carl Sagan and his co-workers, a limited 5,000 megaton nuclear exchange would cause a global temperature drop of more than 35 degrees Centigrade, and this change would last for three months. http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/84/46/ From - Tue Jun 19 19:20:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:20:12 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Just a philosophic question References: <4678484a$0$30668$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <4678484a$0$30668$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W. D. Allen wrote: > "Global warming" is not about physics and thermodynamics, it's about > political control and grant money! > > WDA > > end > > "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message > news:f599o3$hnh$1@news1.nefonline.de... >> If temperature is rising, why does mother nature release CO2 >> after a short time? >> >> And why do temperatures decline after a while mother nature >> has released CO2? >> >> From this point of view, CO2 seems to be a coolant and not >> an evil gas, that promotes additional heat, elsewise we would >> have and endless loop of heating and gas release. > > It's about Global Governance... What better way to get the moron masses to fall in line. It's about TAXES. Follow the money. http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/53/46/ From - Tue Jun 19 19:41:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:41:29 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How do you compute a carbon offset? References: <4672d7a7$0$18008$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1181946653.853576.24790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1181946653.853576.24790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jun 15, 11:17 am, "James" wrote: >> My Lear Jet is in the shop right now but if I fly it from NYC to LA, how >> many trees do I have to plant to offset the trip? > > What model of Lear jet? > What kind of trees? > Where do you plan to plant your trees? > How long will you let the trees grow? > . . . > . . . > > > Basically, Carbon offsets are best measured. > Grow the plant or plants in question and > weigh the carbon they sequester. Call > an agronomist or a biophysicist. > You would have to put a column for deficit carbon units - used to create the "sequestered" carbon... all the gas used to transport the plants to plant them, to get the workers to work everyday... to pump the water light the light-bulbs build the facilities, make the paper to track it ink and and electric for computers, then the sales staff and the cleaning crew the road construction, waste, abuse, fraud, security... and so on until you find that Al Gore used more carbon in one month than his carbon offsets will produce in a hundred years. From - Tue Jun 19 19:48:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:48:54 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: White paint outperforms solar panels by a factor fo 25 References: <1182269451.249528.278730@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182269871.694650.45200@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182271047.154038.133310@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE" wrote > in message news:1182271047.154038.133310@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com... >> On Jun 19, 12:17 pm, hurt_beyond_rep...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> On Jun 19, 11:10 am, kwag7...@hotmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Solar panels are an energy sink. The energy costs of creating one >>>> currently outweigh the energy it produces over its productive >>>> lifetime. On the other hand, painting one's roof white reflects more >>>> solar energy back into space in one day than a solar panel would >>>> absorb in 25 days. >>>> http://scienceblogs.com/islandofdoubt/2007/06/white_paint_save_the_pl... >>> My god, we've found the answer to global warming. >> The answer is to ignore the fraud, founded on junk, politically- >> oriented "science." > > How many amps can you get out of white paint? > > IS saving an amp hour, less valuable than creating one?? Actually saving one is better since you save the energy save by not building a new power plant. From - Tue Jun 19 19:57:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:57:24 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <467768cf@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182267499.402165.135540@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182267499.402165.135540@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jun 19, 12:25 am, "Bonzo" wrote: >> James Allan: Iran, Syria, Zimbabwe: are you laughing yet? >> When outlaws run UN committees, global community is a dubious concept >> 22may07 >> >> LISTEN carefully and you will hear regular appeals to "the international >> community" or to "the UN" or to "what the rest of the world thinks". These sort >> of appeals pop up when the speaker happens not to like some outcome produced by >> the democratic process here in Australia. >> >> So the speaker might dislike some outcome having to do with rights, or >> with labour standards, or just about anything really. And rather than go through >> the hassles and hard work of actually changing the minds of some of his or her >> fellow citizens, this speaker appeals in some grandiose way to what "the >> international community thinks" as though that were self-evidently good and the >> end of the matter. Personally, I think a fairly large dose of scepticism is >> warranted. >> >> Start with the UN itself. The old UN Commission on Human Rights was >> dismantled in June last year for being ineffective, biased, ridiculous: take >> your pick. In its place we have the UN Human Rights Council, with 47 member >> countries. And in its short lifespan it has already made nine resolutions >> criticising human rights abuses. >> >> Sounds good, right? Well, not one of those resolutions was critical of >> Sudan (over Darfur), or Zimbabwe, or China, or anywhere, save Israel. Yes, >> Israel is the only country this new body has criticised (on nine separate >> occasions, no less) for rights abuses. Gee, nothing to be sceptical about in >> that. >> >> How about the UN Commission on the Status of Women? At its 2007 annual >> conference, when surveying the plight of women around the entire world, what >> countries did it single out? Saudi Arabia, maybe, where women aren't allowed to >> drive and are liable to be stoned to death? Or big chunks of Africa? Or >> Afghanistan? Nope. Apparently the only country that warranted a resolution for >> violating women's rights was, wait for it, Israel. >> >> Does scepticism really need to be made of sterner stuff? >> >> Or how about this? The UN Commission on Sustainable Development, which is >> charged with economic development and the environment, just elected as its >> chairman Zimbabwe. Yes, Zimbabwe, which has annual inflation of more than 2200 >> per cent and whose economy is contracting by more than 5 per cent a year. >> >> Or what about the UN's Disarmament Commission? Iran was just elected to >> serve as vice-chairman, with Syria as rapporteur. Even George Orwell couldn't >> satirise that! >> >> Oh, the countries on that above-mentioned UN Human Rights Council include >> Egypt, Saudi Arabia, China, Cuba, Angola, Azerbaijan and others whose advice on >> human rights might not strike you as terribly persuasive, which is no doubt why >> those people who don't like the outcomes of democratic politics here in >> Australia tend to phrase their appeals in vague, amorphous terms ("the >> international community") rather than in specifics ("here's what Robert Mugabe >> and the Baath party of Syria think about the proper level of treatment for women >> and minorities"). >> >> Need more examples of "interesting" countries on various agencies and >> bodies? Here are just a few. Committee on Information: China and Kazakhstan. >> World Food Program executive board: Sudan and Zimbabwe (for some reason North >> Korea missed out, despite its famine). International Labour Organisation >> Governing Body (the one lots of union officials like to appeal to): Saudi Arabia >> (that bastion of generous treatment to non-citizen workers). >> >> Now, I know that some readers - those who have more than a passing >> acquaintance with the whole international law superstructure and who, one >> supposes, get the odd invitation to conferences across the world or are asked to >> serve in some paid role here or there - like to say that these examples are all >> on the political side of the UN. Forget all that, they'll say (well, at least if >> you get a few drinks into them). The real work, they assure you, takes place in >> the various treaty bodies, the groups of "experts" who report on the many human >> rights treaties in existence. >> >> So, any room for scepticism there? I think that depends on whether you're >> a democrat at heart or you're more inclined towards aristocratic, >> philosopher-king, judicial-activism type of government. >> >> You see, these treaty bodies are staffed with people making all sorts of >> highly debatable calls. To give but one example, does spanking infringe eternal, >> timeless human rights? The issue divides people who are smart, reasonable and >> nice. It should be left to the voters, full stop. >> >> The body overseeing the Convention on the Rights of the Child disagrees. >> The experts think they have a pipeline to God on this one. They point to Article >> 19 and say it prohibits spanking. But this is pure poppycock. Remember, this >> convention had to be phrased in incredibly general, amorphous terms in order to >> get the world's Chinas and Egypts to sign up. So it said no such thing in >> explicit terms. If it had done so, no country save Sweden (and maybe New >> Zealand) would have signed up. But these "experts" use a souped-up >> interpretation-on-steroids power to foster a sort of rule by the democratically >> illegitimate. It's a bit like really bad judicial activism, save that it takes >> place outside the glare of publicity. And when solid democratic countries ignore >> the views of these self-styled experts, that is characterised as being "against >> international human rights standards". >> >> So it's either the politicised UN agencies and bodies or the preening, >> smug, "expert"-driven and highly democratically illegitimate treaty bodies that >> tell us what these indeterminate treaties mean: treaties that I should note were >> entered into in Australia under the prerogative power, meaning they never had to >> be passed through parliament and voted on by elected representatives. >> >> I think we can be sceptical of both these things. If you randomly drew 100 >> names from the phone book, those people would be a better guide to how to draw >> the many debatable and contentious rights-respecting lines that need drawing >> than anything likely to emerge from the UN or "the international community". >> >> Call me sceptical. >> >> James Allan is a professor of law at the University of Queensland. >> >> © The Australian >> >> Regards >> >> Bonzo >> >> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for anything except >> for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree panic us" >> Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the National >> Academy of Sciences >> >> "What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the only thing >> we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes" Dr. Richard Lindzen, >> Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences >> >> [most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently >> untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately forecast >> the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT >> and Member of the National Academy of Sciences > > My (Canadian) Prime Minister Pearson was instrumental in creating the > UN. He was given a Nobel Prize for his good work. The concept of the > United Nations is very noble. Having said that, the UN in its current > state is a complete waste of resources. From top to bottom, we would > be in a better world should the UN simply disappear. It is but a whore > house of political lackeys and activists politicking for position and > tenuous powers. A pile of bureaucrats with personal agendas jockeying > for advancement. Even UNICEF is corrupt and virtually useless. > To bring this into the "Global warming" group... The UN decided to attack Global warming a few months ago, while it ignores terrorist, if you look at the numbers there's more than 200 people a month dieing from terrorist, GLOBAL WARMING KILLS how many??? You think maybe when they RAN screaming and crying like little girls from Baghdad that they had their priorities screwed up? From - Tue Jun 19 20:07:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 20:07:41 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Tax dollars funding the Church of Global Warming? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Public money spent on promoting the "consensus of Global Warming" I just heard a commercial with the "Ad Council" funding it... about global warming. From - Tue Jun 19 22:02:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:02:21 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Tax dollars funding the Church of The Round Earth? References: <1182303300.685616.166330@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182303300.685616.166330@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jun 19, 5:07 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >> Public money spent on promoting the "consensus of Global Warming" I just >> heard a commercial with the "Ad Council" funding it... about global warming. > > Think of all the public money spent funding the > Church of the Round Earth, too! Why it's the > almost the entire NASA, NAVY, NRO, NSF, and > Education Department Budgets! Why, the next > thing you know, those goddamn liberals gonna > teach our kids to add! If God had wanted man > to think, he would have given him a brain. ;-) > God just gave a brain to half of them, the rest he made Liberals. They imagine science equals consensus and consensus equals science. I believe the Round Earth church has verifiable numbers that are based in reality. That makes the round earth based in real world fact not faith, therefore not a religion. Besides I have a picture. It's round. Do you have a picture or verifiable data that proves the global warming theory? From - Tue Jun 19 22:36:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:36:51 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming? References: <_mZdi.457$1a.308@bignews1.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > talk-n-dog wrote: >> birdog wrote: >>> Couple of nights ago I watched most of a program entitled "The Little >>> Ice Age" on the History Channel. A couple of times they brought in >>> the Gulf Stream alteration and Artic ice melt as the cause. Of >>> course, global warming was the cause of the ice melt. Since the >>> Little Ice Age preceeded our present CO2 crisis, obviously human >>> activity did not cause the melt. They did not dwell on that fact. >>> >>> One item they mentioned I hadn't heard before, that in the volcanic >>> emissions, it was sulpher, not CO2, that effected global climate. >>> >>> All in all, if I were going to panic, it would from another ice age, >>> not warming, that would wad my skivvies. That's the tone I got from >>> the program. This AGM thingy gets curiouser and curiouser. >>> >> According to Carl Sagan and his co-workers, a limited 5,000 megaton >> nuclear exchange would cause a global temperature drop of more than 35 >> degrees Centigrade, and this change would last for three months. >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/84/46/ > > I thought he said about the same thing about Iraqi oil fires. > > ======================================================================== > > http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html > > A final media embarrassment came in 1991, when Carl Sagan predicted on > Nightline that Kuwaiti oil fires would produce a nuclear winter effect, > causing a "year without a summer," and endangering crops around the > world. Sagan stressed this outcome was so likely that "it should affect > the war plans." None of it happened. > > ======================================================================== > > Now how does science work again? If you make a prediction and it turns > out to be totally wrong, what does that say about your theory? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > It says my theory was a consensus like global warming, but since we don't care about provable real world science any more, all I have to do is get 3 out of 5 people standing in the room I'm in, to agree with me and it's as good as those E=mc2 things that people throw out there. In short, My theory based on Carl Sagan's theory is as acceptable as the Global warming theory. If global warming happens then we need just as ridiculous a theory to solve the imaginary problem. I was just using the Global warming mind set, and applying it to the solution. If crap science can predict Global Warming then it should take crap science to solve the problem. From - Wed Jun 20 01:10:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:10:00 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Exxon: "not a denier" References: <1181969673.417180.73890@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1181969673.417180.73890@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xnichols@hotmail.com wrote: > UK: June 15, 2007 > > LONDON - Oil company Exxon Mobil Corp. never in the past decade > doubted the risk from climate change, its global spokesman Kenneth > Cohen said on Thursday, in a latest attempt to improve its green > credentials. > Remind them what we did to Tobacco, Chemical and asbestos companies after the courts decided they were guilty of their product being responsible for Toxic waste and health problems caused by their products. The courts might consider that the CO2... that their product produced also caused lung cancer and air pollution. Maybe the Co2 will be linked to Hurricane Katrina? That ought to get'em thinking. I think second hand Gas/smog is causing my "fill in any respiratory illness" death. How many Billion$ will those lawsuits bring to the lawyers? They were sued for the Exxon Valdez, maybe that was a small hit compared what might happen. The reason they probably won't care; is that there is no such thing as global warming and they're smart enough to know it. Ride the wave... From - Wed Jun 20 10:30:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:30:47 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How low will Superior go? References: <1182324405.849392.75100@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > wrote >> Officials blame drop in Lake Superior on climate change or normal >> variations >> >> The Sault Star >> http://www.saultstar.com >> Michael Purvis (extracts) >> Local News - Thursday, June 14, 200 >> >> Global climate change could be causing staggeringly low water levels >> on Lake Superior, but normal variations in weather could also be >> behind the drop, say officials charged with monitoring lake levels. This COULD also be caused by 12,000,000 Mexican immigrants with straws, but I doubt the actual evidence can point to which theory has more credence. Then there's always space aliens, they could be attacking or even be living here and sabotaging the Ozone and the CO2 and stealing the water to take to another planet... they'd want to turn it into water not ice, so they can easily fit it in a transport. From - Wed Jun 20 11:03:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:03:48 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How low will Superior go? References: <1182324405.849392.75100@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message > news:f5aoff$d1j$1@news1.nefonline.de... >> wrote >>> Officials blame drop in Lake Superior on climate change or normal >>> variations >>> >>> The Sault Star >>> http://www.saultstar.com >>> Michael Purvis (extracts) >>> Local News - Thursday, June 14, 200 >>> >>> Global climate change could be causing staggeringly low water levels >>> on Lake Superior, but normal variations in weather could also be >>> behind the drop, say officials charged with monitoring lake levels. >>> >>> Either way, weather is the reason for this year's unprecedented >> >> Ah, I see, it is beginning... >> Message-ID: >> >> "Someone living near Lake Huron/Lake Michigan? >> ... and may help me with eye-proven water levels within this year? >> I want to prove a prediction of Dr. Landscheidt, that water levels >> in both lakes will have a clear and serious low somewhen this year." >> >> This prediction was from 2003. > > You have apparently omitted the cite which disproves the prediction. > > here you go.... A biography and historical novel of Nostradamus, with many interpreted quatrains, written during World War II. Something for the true believer, more predictions... what we really need is the formula, the science, the real world evidence that can be repeated and proven. Global warming? they've predicted every other thing too, drought to flood, starvation to new growing fields, one of them has to come true with in the next 800 to a thousand years. When one does... we can start to unlock their Quatrains also. From - Wed Jun 20 11:20:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:20:42 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Tax dollars funding the Church of The Round Earth? References: <1182303300.685616.166330@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1182351806.105796.327410@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182351806.105796.327410@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jun 19, 7:02 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >> Do you have a picture or verifiable data >> that proves the global warming theory? > > Yes, I have several, but being a fossil fool flunky, > you probably won't read them, then you'll mumble > derisive remarks. > Close... I don't mumble, So after looking at all that... I see it's the SUN that produces all the heat that's being "allegedly trapped" by Chevy drivers. OK..... if that's your stand then, just get the twelve million illegal aliens to build a giant Sombrero to shield the earth then launch it into orbit. Call it Project: Human Evolution From - Wed Jun 20 11:25:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:25:52 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Just a philosophic question References: <4678484a$0$30668$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "talk-n-dog" wrote in message > news:HwZdi.461$1a.274@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> W. D. Allen wrote: >>> "Global warming" is not about physics and thermodynamics, it's about >>> political control and grant money! >>> >>> WDA >>> >>> end >>> >>> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message >>> news:f599o3$hnh$1@news1.nefonline.de... >>>> If temperature is rising, why does mother nature release CO2 >>>> after a short time? >>>> >>>> And why do temperatures decline after a while mother nature >>>> has released CO2? >>>> >>>> From this point of view, CO2 seems to be a coolant and not >>>> an evil gas, that promotes additional heat, elsewise we would >>>> have and endless loop of heating and gas release. >>> >> It's about Global Governance... What better way to get the moron masses to >> fall in line. It's about TAXES. Follow the money. >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/53/46/ > > AAAAAAAAAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHA! Love the kooksite, especially the X-files > graphic! > > It's better than chewing your fingernails and planning your funeral... From - Wed Jun 20 11:41:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:41:55 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: www.surfacestations.org achieves publicity References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Bill Ward" wrote in message > news:pan.2007.06.19.23.51.23.124764@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com... >> On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:51:44 +0200, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >> >>> Pittsburgh Tribune-Review >>> June 17, 2007 >>> Helping along global warming >>> >>> By Bill Steigerwald >>> TRIBUNE-REVIEW >>> >>> >>> "But Anthony Watts of Chico, Calif., suspects NOAA temperature readings >>> are not all they're cracked up to be. As the former TV meteorologist >>> explains on his sophisticated, newly hatched Web site >>> surfacestations.org, >>> he has set out to do what big-time armchair-climate modelers like Hansen >>> and no one else has ever done - physically quality-check each weather >>> station to see if it's being operated properly." >>> >>> http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/steigerwald/s_513013.html >> This got ~30sec on Brit Hume's (6pmEDT)"Grapevine" today on Fox News >> Channel. > > Sure, it's just like the creationist crowd - since what is needed is a > constant flow of clever excuses and misstatements, any new 'argument' makes > the rounds instantaneously. Most antiscience woowoos aren't smart enough to > make up their own bullshit without looking like idiots. > > I'm sure glad you said "most" since I make up almost all my own Bullshit, and I never look like an idiot. From - Wed Jun 20 11:59:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:59:10 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Tax dollars funding the Church of The Round Earth? References: <1182303300.685616.166330@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "talk-n-dog" wrote in message > news:JU%di.517$1a.423@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> On Jun 19, 5:07 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >>>> Public money spent on promoting the "consensus of Global Warming" I just >>>> heard a commercial with the "Ad Council" funding it... about global >>>> warming. >>> Think of all the public money spent funding the >>> Church of the Round Earth, too! Why it's the >>> almost the entire NASA, NAVY, NRO, NSF, and >>> Education Department Budgets! Why, the next >>> thing you know, those goddamn liberals gonna >>> teach our kids to add! If God had wanted man >>> to think, he would have given him a brain. ;-) >>> >> God just gave a brain to half of them, the rest he made Liberals. They >> imagine science equals consensus and consensus equals science. I believe >> the Round Earth church has verifiable numbers that are based in reality. >> That makes the round earth based in real world fact not faith, therefore >> not a religion. Besides I have a picture. It's round. Do you have a >> picture or verifiable data that proves the global warming theory? > > Yep. What rock have you been hiding under? > > I'm not sure, since the laws of nature have been redefined as the consensus of nature. Let me take a poll and I'll get back to'ya. From - Wed Jun 20 12:14:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:14:19 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Evidence against global warming! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > http://www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/07/face.tree.ap/index.html > > "He told me, you screw things up, I'm gonna haunt you," said Bradley Stephens, So his kids a screw up and he came back to haunt him.... BFD Life's a bitch then global warming comes along and kills'ya OH that's right, terrorist kill people, Global warming just make the growing season longer, so we all have more to eat.... Global warming solves world hunger problems.... From - Wed Jun 20 12:28:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:28:07 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: More crucial evidence against global warming! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfx8Nc6VKnI > > Rocky Horror and Star Trek... I lived that, I turned up the stereo and down the tv and saw all that years ago. Been in a time warp ever since... OR Was this the Al Gore plan to save the Planet Earth from global warming? From - Wed Jun 20 17:05:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:05:57 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How much longer will the warmers keep lying? References: <46769b6a$0$8604$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1182185457.647516.145550@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182278264.227349.101300@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182362996.493303.83010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182362996.493303.83010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jun 19, 7:31 pm, Bill Ward wrote: > > > When all the world's scientific bodies, and 98% of all the world's > scientists endorse a scientific position, it means the issue is > settled. > I'm pretty sure that in `1200's-`1400's the consensus of 98% of all the worlds scientists was that the earth was flat.... If it wasn't their belief then, they were tossed into the dungeon and charged with heresy, like the global warming church is attempting to do to todays dissenting scientist. From - Wed Jun 20 17:18:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:18:41 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: Global warming brings early spring to Arctic References: <1182300360.539944.104490@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1182348581.454740.254760@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <1182362123.703289.31880@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182362123.703289.31880@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jun 20, 10:09 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jun 19, 7:46 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >> >> >>> Global warming brings early spring to Arctic: study >>> Mon Jun 18, 11:54 PM ET >>> CHICAGO (AFP) - In the upper reaches of Greenland, the Arctic spring >>> comes several weeks earlier than it did a decade ago, according to a >>> study released Monday that underscores the far-reaching impact of >>> global warming on the northern polar region. >>> Researchers discovered that plant, insect and bird life native to the >>> High Arctic had made dramatic seasonal cycle adjustments to the >>> region's earlier snow melt in the space of just 10 years. >>> On average, the insects, plants and birds such as the Sanderling and >>> the Ruddy Turnstone had moved their springtime rituals -- budding, >>> emerging from the ground, hatching times -- forward two weeks in the >>> period between 1996 and 2005. >>> In some cases, flowers were emerging from buds and chicks were >>> hatching a full 30 days sooner in 2005 than they would have in 1996 in >>> response to sharply increased temperatures that burned off the >>> winter's snow layer. >>> "Our study confirms what many people already think, that the seasons >>> are changing and it is not just one or two warm years but a strong >>> trend seen over a decade," said Toke Hoye, a researcher with the >>> National Environmental Research Institute at the University of Aarhus >>> in Denmark. >>> The trend can be traced to the region's earlier spring snow melt, >>> which occurs about a fortnight earlier than it did a decade ago. >>> This should serve as an early warning system to the rest of the planet >>> of the scale and pace of climate-related change, the researchers said. >>> While not unexpected, the rate of change is surprising, even though >>> Arctic temperatures are increasing at twice the global average. >>> Similar studies have noted much more modest changes with respect to >>> plants in Europe (an advancement of 2.5 days per decade) and globally >>> (5.1 days per decade). >>> "We were particularly surprised to see that the trends were so strong >>> when considering that the entire summer is very short in the High >>> Arctic -- with just three to four months from snowmelt to freeze up at >>> our Zackenberg study site in northeast Greenland," said Hoye, a co- >>> author of the study. >>> [ . . . ] >>> The study is published in the June 19th issue of Current Biology and >>> is based on a 10-year analysis of six plant species, 12 insect species >>> and three bird species in a 19 square kilometer (4,700 acre) area near >>> Zackenberg. >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070619/sc_afp/usarcticwarming_070619035401 >> But how much global warming? And what caused it? the consensus is that >> we've experienced .6 degrees C increase every 100 years since the >> Little Ice Age. And that is not caused by CO2 levels changing. > > Liar, liar. It is acknowledged that it is caused by CO2 levels, and > that is caused by humans. > > It's acknowleged by NASA, EPA, NOAA, NAS, AAAS, AGU, Royal Society, > Alcoa, Caterpillar, BP, Duke Energy, Du Pont, GE, PG&E, etc. What's > amazing is that a handful of luddites continue to put their heads in > the sand and deny it. > you didn't list Ronald McDonald and Al Gore... What percentage of all known... CO2 is released by humans? Thanks to the Luddites who continued to believed that the world was round, in the face of torture at the hands of the flat world consensus. From - Wed Jun 20 17:30:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:30:52 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <467768cf@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182276565.452053.114940@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <9NOdnbYrsJZCgeXbnZ2dnUVZ_tGvnZ2d@comcast.com> <1182278077.999904.93420@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182315094.389981.83370@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1182373726.652906.94830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182373726.652906.94830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jun 20, 12:51 am, kwag7...@hotmail.com wrote: >> On Jun 19, 2:34 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jun 19, 1:13 pm, Rich wrote: >>>> Lloyd wrote: >>> Clearly misbehavior at the UN is a serious matter. >>> But if the UN is "someone's idea of a joke," that "someone" is mostly >>> the US government, isn't it? >>> As least according to the history I learned in high school, it was US >>> president Woodrow Wilson who first proposed the establishment of the >>> old League of Nations, even if Republicans in the Senate then >>> prevented the US from ever joining the League. >>> Then in the 1940s, when a United Nations was being proposed as a >>> replacement for the League of Nations, wasn't the government of the >>> United States one of the foremost sponsors of the idea? >>> And wasn't US sponsorship of the United Nations one of the primary >>> reasons why the headquarters for the new organization was located in >>> New York? >>> There's a whole anti-UN lobby in the United States that loves to run >>> the organization down, and lately the shitheads in the fossil fuel >>> lobby have taken to UN bashing in order to discredit the >>> Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which was >>> established under UN auspices with the support of US president George >>> Herbert Walker Bush, the "kinder and gentler" conservative. >>> But it's just stupid to portray the UN as if it were the creation of >>> Cuba, China and the Arab world. The organization is what it is >>> largely because it was designed that way by the leaders of the western >>> capitalist democracies. Who of course have to visit the UN in New >>> York. >> What exactly does the genesis of the UN have to do with whether or not >> it is corrupt and useless now? The UN has been hijacked through the >> democratic and bureaucratic process. It doesn't matter who created >> it; currently it is much less pleasant than a joke, it's a travesty.- > > Especially if you're an extreme Israeli Zionist, I think. Damn UN > General Assembly keeps insisting that Palestinians have certain > rights. Now THAT's "corrupt and useless," if you never want Israel to > pull out of the West Bank. > > And of course if you're a flack for the fossil fuel companies, the UN- > affiliated IPCC is a huge pain as well. > > Much better to place your faith in the Bush White House, which will > cheerfully cook the planet before they'll contemplate any measures > that inconvenience US coal, oil and auto interests. > > WHO NEEDS INTERNATIONAL OVERSIGHT? > > LET'S RETURN TO THE HEALTHY NATIONALISM THAT PRODUCED WORLD WAR I -- > > BACK IN "THE GOOD OLD DAYS" > finish the POST UN list WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Granada, Bosnia, Somalia, Gulf war, Israeli, NYC/Afgan/Iraq war... I'm sure I missed some but you get the idea. The UN Ran screaming and crying like a little girl from Baghdad. The UN ???? OVERSIGHT ???? ... You just get out of a coma? From - Wed Jun 20 17:47:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:47:20 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SIGNS OF A WARMING WORLD? Chattanooga, Tennessee Faces "Exceptional" Drought References: <1182211209.539505.247490@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182373289.325978.122470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182373289.325978.122470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jun 19, 11:23 pm, The_Sage wrote: > >> Last time I looked, Tennessee was not the whole world, but only a very small >> portion of it. Now if there had never been a drought in the part of the world >> before or if the entire world was experiencing a drought, then you might have a >> point to make. >> > > Thanks, Sage. Here's some more fun drought news from (A) Florida, (B) > Alabama (C) Tennessee, (D) Ohio, (E) Australia, (F) Lesotho (G) > Morocco and (H) the Ukraine, among other places: > Didn't we have a drought in the 30's ? Was that Global warming and CO2? Africa has had droughts since I was a kid. Florida has a huge number of immigrants(millions) using the same 40 inches of rain we've been getting every year since I was a kid. The weather report gets the rain forecast wrong, as often as not. Why would I believe that they have the next 100 years aced. From - Wed Jun 20 17:54:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:54:11 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How low will Superior go? References: <1182324405.849392.75100@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <_YydnZQTPtV_puTbnZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Rich" wrote in message > rofl Poor Mikey, it's just one straw man after another. I guess when > you're eking out a career as a fiction writer after producing a few bombs, > this is where you end up. lol > > HHHHHhhhhmmmmm... your here too? your just the other side of the coin. From - Wed Jun 20 17:58:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:58:00 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.rv-travel,alt.global-warming,sci.energy,alt.energy.homepower Subject: Re: How to conserve energy References: <1181593398.242649.125120@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <466E51EB.5FB1FA9C@hotmail.com> <46772419$0$3126$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >>> Coasting works best if it is possible to................. shut off the >>> engine >>> This is the true danger of Global Warming... From - Wed Jun 20 20:12:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:12:18 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "Incentives" References: <1182317038.525464.278190@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182358066.808199.323110@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1182378294.165229.292750@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182378294.165229.292750@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE wrote: > On Jun 20, 4:30 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >> "Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE" wrote >> in messagenews:1182358066.808199.323110@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >>> On Jun 20, 10:39 am, "Server 13" wrote: >>>> "Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE" >>>> wrote >>>> in messagenews:1182317038.525464.278190@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>>> The new euphemism for blackmail money the "developing World" is >>>>> demanding from the West to help them fight global warming. So, not >>>>> only have countries like China taken most producton jobs from the >>>>> West >>>> ...Because of right wing economic policies... >>>> , and have economies growing at 10%+ per year, they refuse to do >>>>> anything about the pollution (and C02 emissions which are not >>>>> pollution) >>>> ROFLMAO >>>> unless the West pays a huge >>>>> (and we're talking trillions of dollars) ransom. >>>> Nope. But keep lying, no one expects you to behave otherwise. >>>>> Incentives is a term coined by EU Climate Change Cabal members to >>>>> further reality from the steps being taken in this science charade. >>>> Not at all. Republicans have been handing out taxpayer money to >>>> corporations under the same banner for years. >>> Sure, but ultimately it serves a positive purpose, unlike the GW >>> clan's onerous proposed fees and tax burdens designed to penalize >>> companies for producing things and ultimately jobs. >> Then you'll have plenty of cites to back up both claims. lol > > Lets take a hypothetical, since the blackmail hasn't begun to be paid > off yet. > Lets say a city in China is powered by coal, the city has 5 million > people in it. The Chinese say if the West doesn't want the C02 to be > produced, they have to pay for the Chinese cost to replace the cheap > coal energy with something cleaner. What do you suppose that one > city's enegy production will cost to replace? > nothing - because before we let the U.S. buy another Nuke power plant for the rest of the world "someone" will chain them self to the capital doors. If congress can't get in then they can't waste our money. From - Wed Jun 20 20:13:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:13:46 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SIGNS OF A WARMING WORLD? Chattanooga, Tennessee Faces "Exceptional" Drought References: <1182211209.539505.247490@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182373289.325978.122470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182377931.746671.234790@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182377931.746671.234790@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Jun 20, 4:47 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: > >> Africa has had droughts since I was a kid. > > Have you considered the possibility yet that you are a kook, kid? > Calling people names and hurting their self image isn't very Liberal of you! From - Wed Jun 20 20:16:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:16:47 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <1182377826.979437.52220@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182377826.979437.52220@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Jun 19, 6:57 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: > >> To bring this into the "Global warming" group... > > Hey look everybody ... it's a talk-n-kook-dog! Well... actually my dog talks to me, and he's no kook. On the other hand I think "your" elevator may not go all the way to the top floor. > From - Wed Jun 20 20:33:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:33:19 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: #Climate Scientist: Global Warming Ended in 1998 References: <1182368961.717201.110860@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Right One wrote: > Mitchell Holman Noemail@comcast.com said: >>>> So far neither IPCC nor anyone else has >>>> provided one iota of valid data for global >>>> warming nor have they provided data that >>>> climate change is being effected by >>>> commerce and industry and not by >>>> natural phenomena. >>> Simply a lie. >>> >> >> These Dittoheads sound like they are straight >> from the Tobacco Institute with their "the scientists >> are wrong!" and "no proof!" and "more research needs >> to be done", all while denying the obvious facts that >> proves them wrong. >> >> From those "liberal eggheads" at Nasa......... >> >> > NASA has no credibility because they're nothing but a bunch of Liberal egg > heads who faked the moon landings to make Kennedy look good. Hey... I wasn't the one that put on adult diapers so I could drive from Texas to Florida to confront my imaginary lovers girlfriend. Look before you leap. > From - Wed Jun 20 20:52:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 20:52:13 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.society.liberalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <467768cf@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182267499.402165.135540@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ALimbaugh wrote: > talk-n-dog talk-n-dog@ecubical.net said: >> The UN decided to attack Global warming a few months ago, while it >> ignores terrorist, >> > They also hate Bush, the only man standing between us and the Islamofacist > terrorist armies of Saddam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden who have slaughtered > millions of westerners with their IEDs! > > When are people finally going to realize that only Bush can protect the world > from certain destruction? > > While the Bush administration squandered $Billions in missing taxpayer dollars > to contractors in Iraq, the corrupt UN squandered $millions! > > The UN cannot be trusted! Who's talking about trusting them, there's no question there, only an idiot would trust the UN. Slaughtered Millions? Your porch light's on, but nobody's home. Squandered Millions, I can believe that. From - Wed Jun 20 21:04:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:04:43 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SIGNS OF A WARMING WORLD? Chattanooga, Tennessee Faces "Exceptional" Drought References: <1182211209.539505.247490@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182373289.325978.122470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182386376.499299.143180@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182386376.499299.143180@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Dog Talk - Good boy! > > You're right - there were droughts in the 30s, and there have been > droughts at different times throughout history. > For this reason, I don't think that anyone can "PROVE" the existence > of global climate change by citing this year's droughts in > > - China > - Ukraine > - Australia > - Morocco > - East Africa > - 1/3 of the continental United States > - Australia > - Parts of Russia > - Parts of England and western Europe > > Quite possibly, all of these droughts, all occurring in the same year > and the same season, COULD be only coincidence. > NOT evidence that "SOMETHING FUNNY IS HAPPENING WITH THE CLIMATE." > Even if it seems that way. > > But it's interesting to that the climate scientists who have > contributed to the IPCC reports have predicted that on a regional > basis, increasingly severe droughts are likely to be one consequence > of "global warming." And we look around for evidence to see whether > the IPCC predictions make sense and -- presto! -- there it is, looks > like. ***************************** So if it was 1930 I'd look around, then make a movie and call it "An inconvenient Dust Bowl" ******************************* > > Still, we gotta remember that on a global basis, the climate > scientists predict that the most prevalent effect of climate change > will be wetter weather in most places, since warmer oceans should > evaporate water more quickly, and warmer air above the oceans should > hold more of the moisture evaporated. > *********************************** Wetter and warmer, so the bulk of the U.S. will be like Florida and that's bad? There's thousands of people a month that leave the cold and the dry to live in Florida. ******************************** > Meaning that heavier rainfall events and even flooding should be a > more common result of GW than severe drought is -- depending on where > you live, of course. > > > Talk in Dog wrote: > >> Didn't we have a drought in the 30's ? >> Was that Global warming and CO2? >> Africa has had droughts since I was a kid. >> Florida has a huge number of immigrants(millions) using the same 40 >> inches of rain we've been getting every year since I was a kid. >> > From - Wed Jun 20 21:13:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:13:07 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.homosexuality,rec.backcountry,alt.global-warming,uk.food+drink.misc,comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Sexual fascism and the Mark Foley scandel References: <1180364447.634527.103860@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1180449213.011533.183480@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1180701996.765435.295700@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1180705326.495236.15690@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1180706360.452125.183300@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1180759242.411724.310230@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1181111583.122991.86870@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1181619609.815013.223130@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1182093369.890652.65880@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182115819.035021.288620@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182179748.642482.168300@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182345728.491911.91330@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182351654.460701.63830@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46794b80$0$495$815e3792@news.qwest.net> <1182357482.375171.224740@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3Wjei.2493$p45.1969@trndny01> In-Reply-To: <3Wjei.2493$p45.1969@trndny01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim Roberts wrote: > bob&carole wrote: >> On Jun 20, 12:26?pm, "Server 13" wrote: >>> "Rick" wrote in message >>> >>> news:46794b80$0$495$815e3792@news.qwest.net... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> "Server 13" wrote in message >>>> news:f5bhrv$8ee$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu... >>>>> "bobandcarole.." wrote in message >>>>> news:1182351654.460701.63830@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On Jun 20, 10:25?am, "Server 13" wrote: >>>>>>> "bobandcarole" wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1182345728.491911.91330@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> Apparently, Rep. Mark Foley is homosexual. And like many homosexual >>>>>>>> men, he has pedophilic tendencies. We should pray for him that he >>>>>>>> gets a handle on this problem and refrains from harming any more >>>>>>>> kids. >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, we need to wake up. The fact that this is typical >>>>>>>> behavior for homosexuals >>>>>>> Same hateful lies from a pathetic troll, different day. lol >>>>>> Troll? I don't call you an ass clown, do I? >>>>> Nobody gives a shit what you call anybody, sad sick serial liar. >>>> Are you bored with your life? Is that your deal? You have nothing >>>> better >>>> to do with your time than hang around and troll? >>> Supporting lying bigots now, are you? lol >> >> Some people can see the truth, you aren't >> one of them. >> >> > > Can someone track these dorks down? They are using the site of U of Ill > a Campaign-Urbana. I don't want to do this but their account, wherever > it is must be challenged, and perhaps uiuc can do it. > > jimbat Kids... if they weren't doing this they'd be out drinking and getting into trouble, they'd be enjoying the best years instead of here, safe and geeked out. Imagine them running wild like "Animal House", let them be. Maybe they'll learn something. From - Wed Jun 20 22:40:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:40:03 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <467768cf@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182267499.402165.135540@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1182390092.536845.96100@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182390092.536845.96100@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Doggie - you asked how many people Global Warmign has killed, as > opposed to "terrorist" > > You mean "terrorism" or "terrorists," right? I sometimes make typos > in here, too. > > I don't have the cite right now, but some months back there was a > study done suggesting that up to 125,000 people a year already are > being killed by global warming in some fashion. > > You look at people suffering from drought in East Africa, for example, > and from brutal military conflicts that are partly driven by > competition over scarce water resources -- in Sudan, in Somalia, and > in Ethiopia. That's a cause of human mortality right there. > > Then look at people who have died from thirst, exposure, and hunger in > India, Indonesia and Bangaladesh in recent years, as monsoons have > sometimes failed to arrive on time, and as drought and extreme hot > weather have affected rice-growing areas. > > Then consider the victims of heavier-than-expected hurricanes in > places like New Orleans, Honduras, Guatemala, and the Caribbean > islands .... > > In the view of some disaster experts, all of these people are already > being affected by "extreme" weather events arising from global climate > change. And as global climate change intensifies over the next > century because of the world's failure to curb emissions of CO2, > methane and other "greenhouse" gases, the number of "greenhouse" > deaths per year is expected to rise. > > Whereas terrorism, although it's certainly horrible and dangerous > enough, has yet to kill anything like 100,000 people a year. > > This isn't an argument in favor of terrorism, but it is an argument > for talking climate change very seriously as a threat to human life & > human welfare. > > On Jun 19, 7:57 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: > > >> To bring this into the "Global warming" group... >> The UN decided to attack Global warming a few months ago, while it >> ignores terrorist, if you look at the numbers there's more than 200 >> people a month dieing from terrorist, GLOBAL WARMING KILLS how many??? >> You think maybe when they RAN screaming and crying like little girls >> from Baghdad that they had their priorities screwed up?- > You didn't deduct all the people that normally die from weather that's not atributed to Global warming... The hurricane might have killed 100 people, but add the global warming " higher winds and more rain etc." and now we get 102 people killed. You see what I mean. Your claiming deaths that would occur without "global warming" On top of that, global warming has no bona fides. It needs to be more than a theory to claim any deaths. That's like me claiming that wearing your seat belt will save you.... it might not, I can't prove it, but then again it just might. As for people starving, killing, dehydrating in Africa, just look back at the history, take the average until the "alleged" global warming kicked in and started killing a few more of them. Then deduct the previous average. And you are right, 200 dieing from terrorists was a low estimate, I should have said "at least 200" While my estimate was low, I think the Global warming one is zero, but allowing for a guess on the consensus of global warming as an exercise in theory, you were still way high. From - Wed Jun 20 23:03:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:03:41 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <467768cf@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182267499.402165.135540@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1182391061.191502.318720@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182391061.191502.318720@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fernbach1948@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jun 19, 7:57 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: > > , if you look at the numbers there's more than 200 > people a month > dieing from terrorist, GLOBAL WARMING KILLS how many??? > > Maybe you'll just consider this an example of the UN looking for > excuses, Doggie. But here's the Secretary General of the UN tying the > genocide in the Darfur region to GW-induced drought in the area, which > has the people in the area fighting over water: So maybe some of > those killed by "terrorist" are also being killed by global warming, > which > inspires the "terrorist" > Sure and the space ship behind the comet will be passing the UN later, so put on your NIke sneakers. He had to blame someone, why not The whipping post, the United States. We are Global Warming, Global warming is us. Thanks to your ilk. ******************* He took His failure and turned it into an asset.... You know how to play ******************* Chess? Ever try to think a few moves ahead? Give it a shot. If you believe the UN then I understand why you believe in Global warming. What did the UN do in DarFur today? Who's Put in office, paid, funded, and supposed to be helping countries in trouble? What would you do if you had neglected/screwed-up your job. I'd bet you'd find something or someone else to blame it on... and if it's someone you hate, all the better. From - Wed Jun 20 23:19:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:19:02 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <1182377826.979437.52220@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182395470.027043.103440@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182395470.027043.103440@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Jun 20, 7:16 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >> kT wrote: > >>> On Jun 19, 6:57 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >>>> To bring this into the "Global warming" group... >>> Hey look everybody ... it's a talk-n-kook-dog! >> Well... actually my dog talks to me, and he's no kook. On the other hand >> I think "your" elevator may not go all the way to the top floor. > > I'm pretty sure I can detect a piece of human dog shit when I smell > one, and step in one, and that seems to be your spoor. > > I'd bet your one that has to taste dog shit before you believe it's really shit. Where do you get this stuff? Do you really come up with it on your own,or do your kids help you? Are'ya a few sandwiches short of a full picnic? Not to worry, My dog likes you anyways. I let him read the messages too. From - Thu Jun 21 00:15:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:15:05 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: THE UN IS SOMEONE'S IDEA OF A JOKE, RIGHT? References: <1182377826.979437.52220@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182395470.027043.103440@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1182397956.238386.288710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182397956.238386.288710@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Jun 20, 10:19 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: > >> Where do you get this stuff? > > You're an science ignorant troll shitting all over a science > newsgroup. > > Get used to it. > [Kt] I guess two, is your limit. And coincidentally your IQ after the limit. Are you the resident intellectual science chief? So all I have to do is agree with you and I'm suddenly back to science? Cool... I like this consensus science, it gets rid of all that thinking stuff that they tried to teach me in college. I'm OK with it, if there were no stupid people, we wouldn't know what smart looked like. From - Thu Jun 21 00:28:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 00:28:10 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: We need to give billions of dollars to the drug companies. References: <1182356967.397298.185330@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182394600.110990.53790@q19g2000prn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phlip wrote: >>> Bush to Veto Stem Cell Bill Today >> Oh great, now how are all those billion dollar drug companies going to >> find the cash to do research.......And you just know that once they >> actually get a cure for something(and not cause people to die) they >> were going to give it away for free because we paid for it. :) >> >> BTW, When did liberals become such big friends of those evil drug >> companies? > > Liberals didn't veto the bill. Bush did - to allow those billion-dollar drug > companies to study stem cells without competition. > we ALREADY GIVE THEM BILLION$ why would we give them more? I only have so many billions. The money was going to replace the R&D fund and part of the original R&D money would be sent to Democrats for their campaign funds. From - Thu Jun 21 10:50:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:50:44 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: The "National Post" also runs stories about the Earth being hallow!?!! References: <467a053e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182402821.605792.237120@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fran wrote: > On Jun 21, 3:13 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jun 20, 9:57 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> [ . . . ] >> >>> © National Post 2007 >> Bonzo gets his science from the "National Post." >> The "National Post" also runs kooky stories about >> the Earth being hallow. Bonzo should read some >> science books before bedtime. >> >> Hollow Earth in National Post:http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=d4dc1dde-710a-4... > > And here are some other scientists who have a dissenting view on the > IPCC's view on sea level rises. > > Not all dissenters are deniers ... > > > |||| > THE Earth today stands in imminent peril and nothing short of a > planetary rescue will save it from the environmental cataclysm of > dangerous climate change. > When have the people of this Planet ever been able to do anything even resembling, working together, to save anything? Will China risk their economy to save the planet? Will the Iranians Risk their Bomb making to save the Israelis? Will North Korea risk their Military Manufacturing to save South Korea? Lets all just sit around a camp fire and sing coombya, in the silhouette of mushroom clouds. From - Thu Jun 21 10:52:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:52:59 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: [SIGH ...] Poppycock Still Blinded By His Math References: <467a053e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182402821.605792.237120@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <467a0e09@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <467a0e09@dnews.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonzo wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote in message Bonzo > > "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for anything except > for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree panic us" Why wait, I think they're all silly, right now... From - Thu Jun 21 11:23:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:23:56 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Dear old Fran JUST DOESN'T GET IT! References: <467a053e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182402821.605792.237120@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <467a120d@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <467a120d@dnews.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonzo wrote: > "Fran" wrote in message > news:1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 21, 3:13 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jun 20, 9:57 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> © National Post 2007 >> Hollow Earth in National > Post:http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=d4dc1dde-710a-4... > > ALMOST AS BAD AS THE KOOKY GAIA WORSHIPPED BY THE LIKES OF POPPYCOCK AND FRAN, > EH? > >> And here are some other scientists who have a dissenting view on the >> IPCC's view on sea level rises. > > > Dear old Fran JUST DOESN'T GET IT! > All of these projections are based on flukey, fudge-factor filled climate > models. > Hey Fran read the disclaimers first before falling for such claptrap! > > Disclaimer > > The projections are based on results from computer models that involve > > simplifications of real physical processes that are not fully understood. > These Computer models... are they the same ones that they used to predict the "extremely active" hurricane season last year? Because it was nearly a dead season, they got it all wrong, and that was only a one year or less forecast of a small part of the Global Weather system. There were not only very few hurricanes but the ones that came-up were not Monsters as they predicted. Why... have the Orange groves, once around Orlando moved south after the freezes in the 70's-80's put 90% of them out of business? No one seems to be planning any new orange groves in Orlando or north of it? They need to have the Computer models print out with their forcast "Are you going to believe me or your lie-ing eyes " Remember Garbage in - Garbage out I can sell you a "computer model" that picks the winning Lottery number, three easy payments... From - Thu Jun 21 11:25:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:25:54 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How much new habitable land due to global warming? References: <1ujei.216308$NU1.126310@newsfe13.lga> <1182387644.422758.207120@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1182405240.449558.308680@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182405240.449558.308680@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Capri wrote: >> "While the scientific community is divided over many aspects of the >> global warming theory, the effect of global warming on precipitation >> levels is not one of them: Global warming would mean more condensation >> and more evaporation, producing more and/or heavier rains. Global >> warming, therefore, could offer the answer to the water scarcity problem >> that the Worldwatch Institute has been seeking." >> >> http://www.nationalcenter.org/KyotoQuestionsAnswers.html >> >> I have no idea of the veracity of the above statement, someone else can >> disprove it at their leisure. > > > This is not something that the GW enthusiasta want to hear, they much > prefer > terms such as drought, water levels, pestilence, disaster, etc. > Also ask where, over the ocean? Or rain over the desert? From - Thu Jun 21 11:45:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:45:18 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How much longer will the warmers keep lying? References: <46769b6a$0$8604$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1182185457.647516.145550@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182278264.227349.101300@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182362996.493303.83010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil Hays wrote: > talk-n-dog wrote: > >> Lloyd wrote: >>> On Jun 19, 7:31 pm, Bill Ward wrote: >>> >>> >>> When all the world's scientific bodies, and 98% of all the world's >>> scientists endorse a scientific position, it means the issue is settled. >>> >>> >> I'm pretty sure that in `1200's-`1400's the consensus of 98% of all the >> worlds scientists was that the earth was flat.... > > You are wrong. > No it's worse than I thought... People believe that no one believed the earth was flat. So everyone knew the earth was round, except the scientists? From - Thu Jun 21 11:46:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:46:47 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Global warming may uproot millions References: <1182432248.099544.22410@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1182434316.741520.77010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182434316.741520.77010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jun 21, 8:24 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Global warming may uproot millions >> In the coming decades, the effects of global warming are likely to >> turn millions into refugees. >> >> By Brad Knickerbocker | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor >> >> GLOBAL WARMING IS likely to uproot millions of people, forcing them to >> leave their homes and in the process create large-scale political, >> economic, and military challenges. >> >> In fact, say a growing number of experts, it's already beginning to >> happen. >> >> "Human-induced climate and hydrologic change is likely to make many >> parts of the world uninhabitable, or at least uneconomic," writes >> Jeffrey Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University >> in New York, in the current online issue of Scientific American. As a >> result, he says, "Over the course of a few decades, if not sooner, >> hundreds of millions of people may be compelled to relocate because of >> environmental pressures." >> >> Rising sea levels, stronger cyclones, the loss of soil moisture, more >> intense precipitation and flooding, droughts, melting glaciers, and >> changing snow-melt patterns are among the problems humanity will face, >> says Dr. Sachs. He warns: >> >> "Combined with the human-induced depletion of groundwater sources by >> pumping, and the extensive pollution of rivers and lakes, mass >> migrations may be unavoidable." >> >> The Christian Aid agency predicts that by 2050 global warming could >> displace as many as 1 billion people. >> >> "All around the world, predictable patterns are going to result in >> very long-term and very immediate changes in the ability of people to >> earn their livelihoods," Michele Klein Solomon of the International >> Organization of Migration told Reuters. "It's pretty overwhelming to >> see what we might be facing in the next 50 years. And it's starting >> now." >> >> Forced migration linked to climate change is part of a larger problem: >> refugees due to floods, famine, and other environmental conditions. In >> 2002, the United Nations estimated that there were about 24 million >> environmental refugees. >> >> By 2010, about 50 million people will have migrated for environmental >> reasons, according to a 2005 study by Norman Myers, a professor of >> environmental science at Duke University in Durham, N.C., the >> Associated Press reported recently. >> >> Thomas Downing, director of the Stockholm Environment Institute, told >> French news service AFP: >> >> "There is going to be a lot of population movement linked to >> climate. ... Not all will be permanent refugees, but when you add >> climate to other forces that push people beyond the capacity to cope, >> the numbers will increase." >> While concern is rising for low-lying island nations and sub-Saharan >> countries especially vulnerable to drought, some experts say climate- >> caused forced migration already has happened on a large scale in North >> America - in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina along the Gulf Coast. >> >> Lester Brown of the Earth Policy Institute points out that the 2005 >> hurricane "forced a million people from the [city] of New Orleans and >> other small towns on the Mississippi and Louisiana coasts in the >> United States to move inland, either within states or neighboring >> states, such as Texas and Arkansas," according to an article in Sri >> Lanka's The Sunday Times. >> >> But the largest numbers of those forced to move by climate change are >> likely to be in developing countries, especially those threatened by >> desertification, AFP reported this week after the United Nations' >> annual World Day to Combat Desertification on June 17. >> >> "By 2025, Africa could lose as much as two-thirds of its arable land >> compared with 1990, and there could be declines of one-third in Asia >> and one-fifth in South America. Migration - from the Sahelian regions >> to the West African coast, from sub-Saharan Africa to Europe, from >> Mexico to the United States - will be an inevitable consequence as >> poor people are driven off their land." >> Among the most threatened are people in Bangladesh, reports the >> Chicago Tribune. Writes Tribune foreign correspondent Laurie Goering: >> >> "Bangladesh is hardly the only low-lying nation facing tough times as >> the world warms. But scientists say it in many ways represents climate >> change's 'perfect storm' of challenges because it is extremely poor, >> extremely populated, and extremely susceptible.... The extent of >> Bangladesh's coming problem is evident in Antarpara, a village stuck >> between the Jamuna and Bangali rivers five hours northwest of Dhaka, >> the capital. In it and other low-lying villages nearby, more than half >> of the 3,300 families have lost their land to worsening river erosion. >> Some have moved their homes a dozen times and are running out of >> places to flee." >> Meanwhile, according to a report on the People & the Planet website, >> "climate refugees are already fleeing from the catastrophic rise in >> sea levels" in the Ganges River delta of India. According to Sugata >> Hazra, director of Jadavpur University's school of oceanographic >> studies, over 70,000 people will be rendered homeless in the next 13 >> years due to the rising seas. >> >> [ . . . ] >> >> "The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide >> and the growth of terrorism," the 35-page report predicted. "We will >> pay for this one way or another," wrote retired Marine Corps Gen. >> Anthony Zinni, former commander of US forces in the Middle East, >> Central Asia, and the Horn of Africa. "We will pay to reduce >> greenhouse-gas emissions today, and we'll have to take an economic hit >> of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms, and >> that will involve human lives." > > That would be scary if global warming wasn't a myth. > From - Thu Jun 21 11:55:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:55:04 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Global warming may uproot millions References: <1182432248.099544.22410@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1182434316.741520.77010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182434316.741520.77010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jun 21, 8:24 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Global warming may uproot millions >> In the coming decades, the effects of global warming are likely to >> turn millions into refugees. >> Meanwhile, according to a report on the People & the Planet website, >> "climate refugees are already fleeing from the catastrophic rise in >> sea levels" in the Ganges River delta of India. According to Sugata >> Hazra, director of Jadavpur University's school of oceanographic >> studies, over 70,000 people will be rendered homeless in the next 13 >> years due to the rising seas. >> >> [ . . . ] >> >> "The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide >> and the growth of terrorism," the 35-page report predicted. "We will >> pay for this one way or another," wrote retired Marine Corps Gen. >> Anthony Zinni, former commander of US forces in the Middle East, >> Central Asia, and the Horn of Africa. "We will pay to reduce >> greenhouse-gas emissions today, and we'll have to take an economic hit >> of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms, and >> that will involve human lives." > > That would be scary if global warming wasn't a myth. > I'm confused as to why Al Gore and his ilk are still buying Multi Million dollar houses on places like Jupiter Island, Malibu, Hyannis Port, MASSACHUSETTS... From - Thu Jun 21 11:57:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:57:56 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.energy Subject: Re: China overtakes US... References: <1182324599.714834.123470@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182325177.825179.196400@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182346953.838084.218620@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182348326.333639.209940@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <66SdnWlmd95QFOfbnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@dls.net> In-Reply-To: <66SdnWlmd95QFOfbnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@dls.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul F. Dietz wrote: > Server 13 wrote: > >>> If CO2 is causing global warming, then per-capita is not a metric at >>> all, >> >> >> Lie > > So, apparently, the problem with US emissions it that our population > is too low? > > Paul This must be why Bush wants all the illegals, they make the numbers work, so the U.S. will be on track with the Kyoto treaty. And he's doing it on a voluntary basis. From - Thu Jun 21 12:02:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:02:07 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Consensus of 606 "scientists" References: <1182435337.278129.136210@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182436565.198504.14190@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182436565.198504.14190@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jun 21, 7:15 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> I just checked out the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report. The section >> entitled "Contributors to the IPCC WGI Fourth Assessment Report" in >> Annex II. > > Pssst! You've only counted a small fraction of the IPCC > scientists. There are two more working groups in the IPCC > than the one you have counted here, Dunderbar. Then, > there are many units of scientists smaller than a working > group. > > Were any of those, the same ones that Put-up a news paper ad about the Duke Lacrosse rapists? They got all excited too. Jumped in before they tested the water too. From - Thu Jun 21 12:25:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:25:40 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Dancin Hansen: The criminal propagandist exposed References: <1182442711.439822.159440@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bert Hyman wrote: > kdthrge@yahoo.com () wrote in > news:1182442711.439822.159440@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: > >> IT IS NOT PROTECTED BY FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO YELL FIRE IN A CROWDED >> THEATER. > > What if the theater is actually on fire? > The guy lighting a cigarette in the third row, might not rate as a fire, when it gets to court. From - Thu Jun 21 14:39:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:39:57 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Sunspots responsible for less than 10% of global temperature change since 1880. References: <4679ffa8@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182400995.107762.5410@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1182436250.989563.199130@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182448444.751598.269340@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182448444.751598.269340@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jun 21, 7:30 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jun 20, 11:43 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: > In general, I personally don't use proxy data. > I leave that to experts. > > However: > > -- Some of the CO2 concentrations are not proxy, they > can be directly measured from bubbles in the ice. Doesn't E=mc2 work, where ever you get it from? Good Science seems to work regardless of the medium. From - Thu Jun 21 14:50:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:50:43 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How much longer will the warmers keep lying? References: <46769b6a$0$8604$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1182185457.647516.145550@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182278264.227349.101300@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1182362996.493303.83010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1182449223.691409.9780@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182449223.691409.9780@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jun 20, 5:05 pm, talk-n-dog wrote: >> Lloyd wrote: >>> On Jun 19, 7:31 pm, Bill Ward wrote: >>> When all the world's scientific bodies, and 98% of all the world's >>> scientists endorse a scientific position, it means the issue is >>> settled. >> I'm pretty sure that in `1200's-`1400's the consensus of 98% of all the >> worlds scientists was that the earth was flat.... >> > > Well gee, the consensus was that evil spirits caused disease too, so I > guess you refuse to use modern medicine. > >> If it wasn't their belief then, they were tossed into the dungeon and >> charged with heresy, like the global warming church is attempting to do >> to todays dissenting scientist. > > The point you make is great, they almost all knew it was evil spirits but it turns out.... Today, they almost all know it's man made Global warming causing weather to kill humans... Put two leeches on it and call me in the morning. From - Thu Jun 21 15:19:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:19:23 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: The "National Post" also runs stories about the Earth being hOllow!?!! References: <467a053e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182402821.605792.237120@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i01v8o.1lyjn3k1gm3fl6N%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> <1182430598.081689.64490@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060108050909060908080207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060108050909060908080207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:56:38 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote: > >> On Jun 20, 11:58 pm, p...@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk (Peter B. P.) wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> On Jun 20, 9:57 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: [ . . . ] >>>>> © National Post 2007 >>>> Bonzo gets his science from the "National Post." The "National Post" >>>> also runs kooky stories about the Earth being hollow. Bonzo should >>>> read some science books before bedtime. >>> Hallow as in halloween? >> OOPS! That's a funny typo. >> >> Hollow Earth in National Post: >> http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=d4dc1dde-710a-4b18-bc3e-cc72fd83aad9&k=77359&p=2 > > > Trip proposed to centre of Earth via Arctic hole > > HOLLOW PLANET THEORY; U.S. scientist, believers to sail on icebreaker > Richard Foot, CanWest News Service Published: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 > > Randy Freeman, a Yellowknife writer commenting in the current issue of Up > Here magazine, warns that "besides heaps of throwaway cash, prospective > cruisers should bring along enough gullibility to swallow an outlandish > theory that, despite centuries of scorn, refuses to die." > > But Mr. Agnew is unfazed by such criticism, promising a grand polar > adventure, no matter what the outcome. > > If the polar opening isn't there, the voyage "will still make an > outstanding documentary," he promises. > > "But if we do find something, this will be the greatest geological > discovery in the history of the world." > > > What's wrong with that? They reported a proposed tour, with good humor. > They clearly didn't buy into it. Do you not understand your links, or > do you not even bother to read them? > > > I'm going to file to get a grant for that one. --------------060108050909060908080207 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060108050909060908080207-- From - Thu Jun 21 15:51:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:51:36 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Dancin Hansen: The criminal propagandist exposed References: <1182442711.439822.159440@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182444317.843542.215550@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1i02nhp.39j7ym1df79eN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030009080606030906090600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030009080606030906090600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 19:01:37 +0200, Peter B. P. wrote: > >> wrote: >> >>>> Hansen's recent paper is nothing but JUNK science. His little clique >>>> of charlatans at some point will be liable for these direct and >>>> insidious scientific lies and scaremongering purposeful to disrupt the >>>> economic functions of the US. >>> Yep, that is its primary purpose. Unbeknown to most advocating it. I >>> still want someone to explain to me how CO2 causes global warming. >> IR reflection due to the dipole moment of the GHG molecules. > > A reflective gas? Tell us more. > Here's a video of serious Global warming http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/89/46/ --------------030009080606030906090600 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030009080606030906090600-- From - Thu Jun 21 20:18:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:18:49 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.republicans,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics Subject: Re: US Army quietly misses recruitment goal for May References: <1182454236.609695.312350@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010804050100040104060000" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010804050100040104060000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Contra-Shill #312 wrote: > Lockheed Martin wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:30:36 -0700, Igor The Terrible >> wrote: >> >>> On Jun 21, 3:02 pm, Lockheed Martin wrote: >>>> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 18:49:19 GMT, Yahoo message boards were best >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Despite lowered intelligence standards Back up here a minute.... the Liberals have been telling me that people in the military are dumb morons that can't think for themselves... so how in the world can you lower the standards if they're already the baby killing scum of the earth. You can't have it both ways. Either they're not the "scum stuck in Iraq" as Liberals like John Carry espouse, in which case you could lower the standards, or they are what John Carry says and you can't get any lower! --------------010804050100040104060000 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010804050100040104060000-- From - Thu Jun 21 20:30:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:30:26 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Dancin Hansen: The criminal propagandist exposed References: <1182442711.439822.159440@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1182470234.348633.147680@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1182470234.348633.147680@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000505010102050601030407" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000505010102050601030407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lorad474@cs.com wrote: > On Jun 21, 9:18 am, kdth...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Ol' Dancin Hansen, (the noted superstitionist from NASA), recently >> released a paper. Anyone interested in thermodynamics continually >> comes up puzzled with Hansen's statements of 3 or 4 Wm-2 and his >> addition of GTG forcing values to get to this number. >> >> HE THEN TAKES IT UPON HIMSELF TO ADVISE THE WORLD ON ECONOMIC AFFAIRS >> BY SUBMITTING HIS SCAREMONGERING OF CLIMATE CATASTROPHE > > 1) Hansen is NOT a "criminal", he is NASA'a top climatology expert. > And you are a liar. > Is he the one who gave a launch GO when it was so "cold" at the cape in normally warm Florida that the O rings shrank and the shuttle exploded? Or was that a different NASA guy? > 2) Hansen's opinion as NASA's to climatology expert is at variance > with your own proven liar proclamations. I therefore give light years > more credence to anything he might say than you. > > 3) I conclude that you are raving kook set free to wreak havoc on the > world. > > 4) You are now on the stupid list. > > --------------000505010102050601030407 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000505010102050601030407-- From - Thu Jun 21 21:05:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:05:28 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Global warming may uproot millions References: <1182432248.099544.22410@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1182434316.741520.77010@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010406030106080409040402" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010406030106080409040402 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "talk-n-dog" wrote in message > news:pbxei.188$I9.65@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Jun 21, 8:24 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> Global warming may uproot millions >>>> In the coming decades, the effects of global warming are likely to >>>> turn millions into refugees. >> >>>> Meanwhile, according to a report on the People & the Planet website, >>>> "climate refugees are already fleeing from the catastrophic rise in >>>> sea levels" in the Ganges River delta of India. According to Sugata >>>> Hazra, director of Jadavpur University's school of oceanographic >>>> studies, over 70,000 people will be rendered homeless in the next 13 >>>> years due to the rising seas. >>>> >>>> [ . . . ] >>>> >>>> "The chaos that results can be an incubator of civil strife, genocide >>>> and the growth of terrorism," the 35-page report predicted. "We will >>>> pay for this one way or another," wrote retired Marine Corps Gen. >>>> Anthony Zinni, former commander of US forces in the Middle East, >>>> Central Asia, and the Horn of Africa. "We will pay to reduce >>>> greenhouse-gas emissions today, and we'll have to take an economic hit >>>> of some kind. Or we will pay the price later in military terms, and >>>> that will involve human lives." >>> That would be scary if global warming wasn't a myth. >>> >> I'm confused as to why Al Gore and his ilk are still buying Multi >> Million dollar houses on places like Jupiter Island, Malibu, Hyannis >> Port, MASSACHUSETTS... > > I'm confused as to why a supposed adult would think that automatically > makes what he says false. lol > > I'm supposed to be an adult? I just had some confusion... I don't sit in the yard to read the newspaper when it's about time for the sprinklers to come on. I just think that makes him either a liar or a stupid real estate investor. --------------010406030106080409040402 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010406030106080409040402-- From - Thu Jun 21 22:28:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:28:54 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Senators Reach Auto Mileage Compromise References: <1182469090.128437.263050@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1pGei.2358$Zg5.2222@newsfe19.lga> In-Reply-To: <1pGei.2358$Zg5.2222@newsfe19.lga> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000209000704050603050709" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000209000704050603050709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> (CBS/AP) The Senate voted Thursday to increase fuel economy standards >> to 35 miles per gallon for cars and SUVs, the first significant boost >> demanded of automakers in nearly 20 years. > > Can someone help me understand what the Constitutional basis is for the > Federal government to pass such legislation? The same ones they used to set a standard for a 1.5 gallon flush toilet. --------------000209000704050603050709 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000209000704050603050709-- From - Thu Jun 21 22:52:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:52:19 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: The December 1989 freeze Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010406050606080301010501" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010406050606080301010501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The December 1989 freeze greatly reduced the number of boxes of oranges harvested in Florida in 1989/90 and lowered the yield of juice per box, which further reduced the price received by growers. Florida orange production recovered significantly in 1990/91 as the 1989 freeze did relatively little permanent damage to the trees. The December 1990 freeze that devastated the California orange crop caused fresh orange prices to rise sharply in 1991. Florida more than doubled the quantity of oranges shipped to the fresh market, up from 5.2 million boxes in 1989/90 to 11.1 million in 1990/91. Global Warming - causing devastating FREEZE --------------010406050606080301010501 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010406050606080301010501-- From - Thu Jun 21 23:19:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:19:47 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Global warming may uproot millions References: <1182432248.099544.22410@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090204040304030400010706" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090204040304030400010706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Global warming may uproot millions > > Economics and war have uprooted tens of millions if not hundreds of > millions already. > > What's your point? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > >> In the coming decades, the effects of global warming are likely to >> turn millions into refugees. >> >> By Brad Knickerbocker | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor >> >> GLOBAL WARMING IS likely to uproot millions of people, forcing them to >> leave their homes and in the process create large-scale political, >> economic, and military challenges. >> >> In fact, say a growing number of experts, it's already beginning to >> happen. >> >> "Human-induced climate and hydrologic change is likely to make many >> parts of the world uninhabitable, or at least uneconomic," writes >> Jeffrey Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University >> in New York, in the current online issue of Scientific American. As a >> result, he says, "Over the course of a few decades, if not sooner, >> hundreds of millions of people may be compelled to relocate because of >> environmental pressures." >> "Most of the nonbearing-tree acreage planted in 1987, 1988, and 1989 was in Florida's Southern and east coast growing areas, but some included replacement trees in existing groves. The 1980's were laced with killing freezes in Florida. Major freezes occurred in January 1981, 1982, 1985, and 1986. December freezes occurred in 1983, 1985, and 1989. The January 1981 and December 1983 freezes were particularly hard. From 1980 to 1986, bearing citrus acreage dropped about 229,000 acres from 597,432 in 1980 to a decade low of 367,581 in 1986 (table 1a). From 1986 to 1990, bearing orange tree acreage increased 5 percent, or 19,342 acres. New plantings to replace freeze-damaged trees and to establish new groves nearly doubled nonbearing acreage between 1980 (about 50,600 acres) and 1986 (about 99,000 acres)." You might notice that the "South East coast" is where it's warm. They seem to be growing in the place where freeze is less of a problem. Don't you just hate it when Global warming freezes your Oranges... --------------090204040304030400010706 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090204040304030400010706-- From - Thu Jun 21 23:36:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:36:14 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000101040106020204040404" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000101040106020204040404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most of the nonbearing-tree acreage planted in 1987, 1988, and 1989 was in Florida's southern and east coast growing areas, but some included replacement trees in existing groves. The 1980's were laced with killing freezes in Florida. Major freezes occurred in January 1981, 1982, 1985, and 1986. December freezes occurred in 1983, 1985, and 1989. The January 1981 and December 1983 freezes were particularly hard. From 1980 to 1986, bearing citrus acreage dropped about 229,000 acres from 597,432 in 1980 to a decade low of 367,581 in 1986 (table 1a). From 1986 to 1990, bearing orange tree acreage increased 5 percent, or 19,342 acres. New plantings to replace freeze-damaged trees and to establish new groves nearly doubled nonbearing acreage between 1980 (about 50,600 acres) and 1986 (about 99,000 acres). http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 --------------000101040106020204040404 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000101040106020204040404-- From - Thu Jun 21 23:58:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:58:54 -0400 From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090501010107030803000708" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090501010107030803000708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > talk-n-dog wrote: > >> Most of the nonbearing-tree acreage planted in 1987, 1988, and 1989 >> was in Florida's southern and east coast growing areas, but some >> included replacement trees in existing groves. The 1980's were laced >> with killing freezes in Florida. Major freezes occurred in January >> 1981, 1982, 1985, and 1986. December freezes occurred in 1983, 1985, >> and 1989. The January 1981 and December 1983 freezes were particularly >> hard. From 1980 to 1986, bearing citrus acreage dropped about 229,000 >> acres from 597,432 in 1980 to a decade low of 367,581 in 1986 (table >> 1a). From 1986 to 1990, bearing orange tree acreage increased 5 >> percent, or 19,342 acres. New plantings to replace freeze-damaged >> trees and to establish new groves nearly doubled nonbearing acreage >> between 1980 (about 50,600 acres) and 1986 (about 99,000 acres). >> >> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 >> >> An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out > > I'm ignorant, what did we just find out? > > Cheers, > > Rich > Buy one get one free... Two things, your ignorant and Global warming is pushing a warm weather crop south. Also you could have learned that over 10 years 50% of the Orange crop had repeated freezes. Learning that global warming won't destroy the planet $0.59 for a news paper... Learning that your ignorant ***** Priceless****** --------------090501010107030803000708 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="talk-n-dog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="talk-n-dog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090501010107030803000708-- From - Wed Jul 04 23:50:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:50:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Where on Mars is Global Warming? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070509070809040009010101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070509070809040009010101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The south polar cap is vaporizing now, which means CO2 is rushing back into the atmosphere. "Remember, though," adds Smith, "there are two polar caps on Mars--north and south. While the south polar cap is vaporizing the north polar cap is growing. It's a balancing act. Overall air pressure will be greatest when there's the least amount of CO2 on the ground." The next such peak is due in early October--that is, early southern summer on Mars. http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2003/07aug_southpole.htm Is the ice melting on Mars.... because of Martians driving their SUV's? What do Green plants need to breath in? What do cars exhaust? By driving my car aren't I helping the green plants? --------------070509070809040009010101 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070509070809040009010101-- From - Wed Jul 04 23:58:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 23:58:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Look South Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000805050606070809050808" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000805050606070809050808 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Penguins drowned in antarctic due to global warming. Ice shifting and moving may be drowning more than polar bears. --------------000805050606070809050808 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000805050606070809050808-- From - Thu Jul 05 00:50:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:50:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: two planets ; one problem Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010301060000040505030802" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010301060000040505030802 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Two planets suffering from Global warming? http://www.enterprisemission.com/warming.htm What do they have in common? The Sun? --------------010301060000040505030802 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010301060000040505030802-- From - Thu Jul 05 01:00:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Path: bigbe1.bellsouth.net!bigfeed.bellsouth.net!bignumber.bellsouth.net!news.bellsouth.net!bignews7.bellsouth.net.POSTED!dbc08622!not-for-mail From: talk-n-dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Dear old Fran JUST DOESN'T GET IT! References: <467a053e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1182402821.605792.237120@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <467a120d@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <467a120d@dnews.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 50 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@bellsouth.net X-Abuse-Info: Please forward a copy of all headers for proper handling X-Trace: enggpaojkliedbjjdbdpiflmbcekedmfhojhikkbagflhcbopnbccellgjhjdhhcofcifgaabllicmfgombfhnkofkgikpmfhpfnjaklckedkfmkfifgodpapchkccbflgleclidngpmnmapomlgcccebcdfdbbm NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:23:53 EDT Organization: BellSouth Internet Group Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:23:56 -0400 Xref: bigfeed.bellsouth.net aus.invest:223472 alt.global-warming:296171 sci.environment:787797 aus.politics:1416885 aus.legal:304339 Bonzo wrote: > "Fran" wrote in message > news:1182404084.497116.83990@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 21, 3:13 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jun 20, 9:57 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> © National Post 2007 >> Hollow Earth in National > Post:http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=d4dc1dde-710a-4... > > ALMOST AS BAD AS THE KOOKY GAIA WORSHIPPED BY THE LIKES OF POPPYCOCK AND FRAN, > EH? > >> And here are some other scientists who have a dissenting view on the >> IPCC's view on sea level rises. > > > Dear old Fran JUST DOESN'T GET IT! > All of these projections are based on flukey, fudge-factor filled climate > models. > Hey Fran read the disclaimers first before falling for such claptrap! > > Disclaimer > > The projections are based on results from computer models that involve > > simplifications of real physical processes that are not fully understood. > These Computer models... are they the same ones that they used to predict the "extremely active" hurricane season last year? Because it was nearly a dead season, they got it all wrong, and that was only a one year or less forecast of a small part of the Global Weather system. There were not only very few hurricanes but the ones that came-up were not Monsters as they predicted. Why... have the Orange groves, once around Orlando moved south after the freezes in the 70's-80's put 90% of them out of business? No one seems to be planning any new orange groves in Orlando or north of it? They need to have the Computer models print out with their forcast "Are you going to believe me or your lie-ing eyes " Remember Garbage in - Garbage out I can sell you a "computer model" that picks the winning Lottery number, three easy payments... From - Thu Jul 05 08:53:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 08:53:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.conservatism,alt.politics.usa.congress Subject: Re: The second biggest LIE in global warming strategy References: <1183607683.675230.197680@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1183620426.462442.208590@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050904050704030503010701" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050904050704030503010701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leftists = Traitors wrote: > Zsoow zsoow@cicero.net said: > >> The world's scientists are controlled by Al Gore. It's a big leftist >> conspiracy to undermine conservative core values of polluting, raping the land >> and leaving our trash behind for others to clean up. Most Conservatives find >> it beneath them to flush a toilet. >> >> > Conservatives usually don't use toilets. They just shit where they're standing > and wipe their ass with the hand. > > It takes intelligence to know how to use a toilet and to comprehend the usages > of toilet tissue. Conservatives are too busy wallowing in their own shit and > collecting government checks (while calling themselves capitalists) to learn > anything. > > Those would be called Muslim Terrorists... and Leftist love Muslim Terrorists Conservatives: had their slaves invent the toilet so conservatives could sit while they ****. And they wanted to cause global warming. Surely Liberals never had ancestors who owned slaves. So Liberals never got the MEMO about toilets and paper. Liberals still want to save the planet by using only "One sheet of Toilet Paper to wipe... except when a special problem arises" , so just who... is it that doesn't know how to use what? Sorry to inform you of this, but apparently you don't get news at your house. I got all this from news articles on liberal TV --------------050904050704030503010701 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050904050704030503010701-- From - Thu Jul 05 10:51:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:51:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Look South References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030600070409080509060107" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030600070409080509060107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OOOoppps it was too cold and they couldnt get up through the ice to breath... Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Penguins drowned in antarctic due to global warming. Ice shifting and > moving may be drowning more than polar bears. --------------030600070409080509060107 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030600070409080509060107-- From - Thu Jul 05 10:58:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:58:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.archaeology Subject: Re: 404 Not Found was->Re: 70 M SEA RISING AT OUR DOOR SOON References: <1183053350.108923.107610@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <3h1j839pdj3ed7apk56kmj9pmdju5nk4g9@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000204050409010409060909" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000204050409010409060909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BAD URL... I need a government grant to start building an Ark. The measurements are a bit unclear so I may need a few million to get the plans sorted out... Think Al Gore will invest? I'm thinking 38ft sloop with wind and solar power, it'll take a while to build and test it, but I'll sail around the world and measure temperatures while I make sure it's sea worthy Rich wrote: > Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >> "The_Sage" wrote >>>> Reply to article by: "Peter Muehlbauer" >>>> Date written: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 01:14:32 +0200 >>>> MsgID: >>>>>> http://members.cox.net/the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm >>> >>>>>> Not Found >>>>>> The requested URL /the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm was not found on this >>>>>> server. >>> >>>>> Fixed. Of course, that page hasn't been updated or cleaned up yet, >>>>> but that is >>>>> another matter. >>>> Still 404, nothing fixed :-P >>> I can't fix you. If only you could learn to refresh your cache by >>> going to the >>> page and pressing F5... >> >> You tell this to a system administrator? >> >> http://members.cox.net/the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm >> Not Found >> The requested URL /the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm was not found on this >> server. > > I still get Not Found with firefox, so I decided to try wget > to download the html, and wget also says "404 Not Found". > > Note this is cygwin wget, but it works well enough. > > Cheers, > > Rich > > ============================================================= > > $ wget http://members.cox.net/the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm > --07:42:49-- http://members.cox.net/the.sage/PseudoSci_01.htm > => `PseudoSci_01.htm' > Resolving members.cox.net... 68.99.123.140 > Connecting to members.cox.net|68.99.123.140|:80... connected. > HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found > 07:42:49 ERROR 404: Not Found. > > $ --------------000204050409010409060909 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000204050409010409060909-- From - Thu Jul 05 10:59:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 10:59:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Arctic Ponds Disappear Due to Global Warming References: <1183560050.048571.74660@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1183560595.882134.8500@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183561955.624067.29010@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1183578454.409116.113480@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1183583980.504930.5210@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1183645778.589288.70470@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183645778.589288.70470@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020604090204020908010804" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020604090204020908010804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Flight nineteen and the lakes are in the same place... Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 4, 4:19 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 4, 12:47 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 4, 10:12 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>>> Increased warming at the poles, now called "polar amplification," >>>> and increased warming in the Northern Hemisphere were both >>>> predictions of Arrhenius in his 1896 paper. >>>> Arrhenius, Prof. Svante. "On the Influence of Carbonic Acid in the >>>> Air upon >>>> the Temperature of the Ground." The London, Edinburgh, and Dublin >>>> Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science 5th Series. Vol. 41. >>>> No. >>>> 251. April 1896: pp. 237-276.> >>> Arrhenius???? 1896???? >>> And you morons criticize 2 year old studies as being hopelessly out of >>> date. You guys are looking awfully desperate. >> Arrhenius was the first to say this. This science is >> over a century old. If that doesn't impress you, then >> PLENTY of newer studies are easy to find by looking for >> the phrase "polar amplification" in some scientific >> paper archive. Try ISI Web-of-Science or Google Scholar. >> My 15-year old son had no trouble doing this. > > You resolutely dump and instantly dismiss cites from TWO YEARS AGO > claiming it as old and invalid science. So then you turn around and > cite 110 year old science that has been completely disproven and you > expect me to be impressed? He was wrong then and you gwas are wrong > now. Your absolute lack of scientific support on this topic is > abysmal. And your desperation is showing. You've got a lot of kohones > to post this kind of crap in a public forum. But then again, you > insist on staying incognito. Nonsensical and anonymous rantings of > left wing ideologues. Hardly impressive at all. In fact, by contrat, > your nonsense only makes the "sceptics" view that much more > convincing. > >> Here's a recent reference to get you started, there >> are many other sources available: >> >> Gore, Al. An Inconvenient Truth: "The Planetary Emergency >> of Global Warming and What We Can Do About It." >> Emmaus: Rodale Books, 2006, p. 144. >> >> The film is not as good as the book on this point.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Thank you for confirming that all you've got is lies and propaganda > and fraudulent claims. > > "In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a > bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous obstacle > to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if > they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I > believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual > presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate for > opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how > hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis." -- Al Gore > --------------020604090204020908010804 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020604090204020908010804-- From - Thu Jul 05 11:13:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:13:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183331833.473001.68940@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183347404.966044.147360@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183409711.625070.307770@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183429471.839457.287910@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000202000601030402010606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000202000601030402010606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gravity, atmospheric pressure and mass... Global warming caused by gravity... Paul F. Dietz wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: > >>> The current climate of Earth is impossible to explain without >>> taking the effects of CO2 into account. >> >> >> So said one of the old timers before 1900. > > So, you'll show me the research quantitatively predicting > the current surface temperature of the Earth, but with CO2 > having no effect, right? > > Didn't think so. > >>> Oh, and how do you explain the temperature on the surface of >>> Venus, Mr. Cardinale? > > >> The subject object is Earth. > > Ah, so according to Mr. Fool the laws of physics are different > on Venus? > >> The models do not even approach the problem from the >> physics, they start with a theoretical model. > > They most certainly do depend on the physics. How do you think > radiation transport is calculated? > > There are empirical assumptions that go in when the physics is > not well understood (for example, aerosols), and these are indeed > major sources of uncertainty. However, the uncertainty cuts both > ways. > >> The result may be as dependable as the Farmer's Almanac. > > And yet the oil and coal companies cannot seem to come up with > a model that does what you say. If models were so maleable they'd > be able to do that, no? > > Like I said, I guess they just must be lazy. > > >> Try explaining how the top layer of CO2 can emit radiation >> toward the surface when the black sky is colder, and thermal transfer by >> IR radiation is from warmer to cooler. > > How could it not? A layer of the atmosphere emits radiation both up > and down, and this is independent of the temperature of what's > above or below it (those will affect the net energy transfer, of course). > > Paul --------------000202000601030402010606 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000202000601030402010606-- From - Thu Jul 05 11:31:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:31:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The second biggest LIE in global warming strategy References: <1183607683.675230.197680@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1183620426.462442.208590@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080908030706030209010207" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080908030706030209010207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Those would be called Muslim Terrorists... and Leftist love Muslim Terrorists Conservatives: had their slaves invent the toilet so conservatives could sit while they ****. And they wanted to cause global warming. Surely - Liberals never had ancestors who owned slaves. So Liberals never got the MEMO about toilets and paper. Liberals still want to save the planet by using only "One sheet of Toilet Paper to wipe... except when a special problem arises" , so just who; is it that doesn't know how to use what? Sorry to inform you of this, but apparently you don't get news at your house. I got all this from news articles on liberal TV Leftists = Traitors wrote: > Zsoow zsoow@cicero.net said: >> The world's scientists are controlled by Al Gore. It's a big leftist >> conspiracy to undermine conservative core values of polluting, raping the land >> and leaving our trash behind for others to clean up. Most Conservatives find >> it beneath them to flush a toilet. >> > Conservatives usually don't use toilets. They just shit where they're standing > and wipe their ass with the hand. > > It takes intelligence to know how to use a toilet and to comprehend the usages > of toilet tissue. Conservatives are too busy wallowing in their own shit and > collecting government checks (while calling themselves capitalists) to learn > anything. > --------------080908030706030209010207 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080908030706030209010207-- From - Thu Jul 05 11:37:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:37:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: U.S. Record Temperatures, 1 July 2007 References: <%Tvii.193333$dC2.138494@newsfe13.lga> <1183490310.025274.202050@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1183566074.511669.36180@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1183643633.068576.309410@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183643633.068576.309410@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080403030602010303010708" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080403030602010303010708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did this golfer use steroids? If he did then the record may not be a record... Russell wrote: > On Jul 4, 6:52 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >> Russell wrote: >>>> No, here "record" means 'record breaking', which can easily be inferred >>>> by the text within the original postings: >>>> "STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE" > > Let's try this example. It is common usage that a > record tying performance is still considered a record, > like in the case of a golfer posting a score that equals > the previous lowest ever posted in a tournament. No > one says the first person to post that score exclusively > holds the record and everyone else who do so later > do not share the record. They are said to all jointly > hold the record. A record tying occurrence is an > occurrence of the record. That's all I'm saying, and > usage of the terminology among meteorologists and > climatologists is the same as in other walks of life, > not something obscure or arcane. Granted it is more > impressive to break a record than to tie one, but quite > frankly if one wants to object to the significance > (commonly, not statistically, speaking) of an individual > daily record at a station, Whata Fool's objections are > more valid than complaining that some occurrence was > just record tying not record breaking. I'm interested in > extremes in weather in a professional capacity, both in > terms of their effects on people and their statistical > properties. In that context, both record tying and > record breaking events are worth noting, as well as > other extreme, but not necessarily record, events. But > I also find it just interesting to read about records, tied > or broken, and Eric provides a useful service to the NG > I read in compiling and posting them. If you want to > continue objecting, please trim sgm from your follow-ups. > > Cheers, > Russell > --------------080403030602010303010708 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080403030602010303010708-- From - Thu Jul 05 11:41:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:41:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.machines.cnc,misc.survivalism,rec.crafts.metalworking,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: OT - Global Warming: true cause found - "liberals" (Ping Dan M.) References: <1183331636.691842.134220@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010300010207020903050609" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010300010207020903050609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even harder to fix what's not broke... Cliff wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 23:13:56 -0000, Robert Run > wrote: > >> I do not understand why, while there is so much potential in the >> inevitability of new energy technology to take root, solve many >> environmental debacles, and boom the economy, people want to wast time >> arguing science and flaming one another. >> >> The right-wing, while claiming to be pro business, does everything in >> their power to destroy the business opportunity, and continually >> stagnate the economy by supporting the entrenched energy industry. The >> left-wing doesn't know enough about business to bring any of their >> science and research to the market place. > > Hard to consider fixing problems when they remain in denial > and their sponsors pay for disinformation campaigns which > idiots/wingers buy. > >> I think we will be leaving them all behind if we are wise. >> >> http://thelastgasstation.typepad.com/index/2007/06/we-live-in-a-ch.html >> >> ========================================== >> >> On May 8, 9:31 am, Cliff wrote: >>> http://pics.livejournal.com/rantingranger/pic/0001t3d2 >>> >>> I expect that we can thank the conservatives & wingers >>> for finding & solving the problem. > --------------010300010207020903050609 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010300010207020903050609-- From - Thu Jul 05 11:58:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:58:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.conservatism,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: More Bullshit From Mentally Retarded Pedophile Richard Anderson of Toronto Canada. References: <1183607683.675230.197680@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000307080700010205050101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000307080700010205050101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Zoran wrote: > Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE rander3127@gmail.com said: >> The first is that there is man-made global warming, the second is the >> "carbon footprint" lie. >> >> I have a program that computes carbon footprints and does Global warming modeling and... it'll pick the lottery winners. So far it's telling me to, wear shoes, buy a coat, and get a job... > Another rightist "expert" with a grade 8 education who wallows in his own shit > weighs in with his micron deep understanding of the issues. > Lincoln? Did he wallow? Leadership by IQ... the "most educated people" don't seem to be the wealthiest ones? > Brainless right wingers should shut the fuck up instead of childishly babbling, > when they don't know what they're talking about. > Liberals are so wise and caring when it comes to children. > Rightists hate the environment, they want to poison themselves and die an > early death. > Liberals just want to control the environment like they want to control everyones lives, through manipulation and taxes. > They even believe that cigarettes are harmless. > Smoking them or inserting where the sun don't shine? We know Clinton/The Liberal thought it was harmless... --------------000307080700010205050101 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000307080700010205050101-- From - Thu Jul 05 12:03:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:03:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore busted for drugs in hybrid car References: <1183650475.959463.254740@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <468d143b$0$19104$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <468d143b$0$19104$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080904050500010708030704" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080904050500010708030704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If Gore Jr. had killed someone with his HYbrid car... Would that count as a death caused by global warming? James wrote: > "Tunderbar" wrote in message > news:1183650475.959463.254740@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... >> http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN0428148420070705 >> >> Al Gore's son busted for drugs in hybrid car >> Wed Jul 4, 2007 10:22PM EDT >> >> LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The 24-year-old son of former Vice President >> Al Gore was arrested for drug possession on Wednesday after he was >> stopped for speeding in his hybrid Toyota Prius, a sheriff's official >> said. >> > > At least he was driving a hybrid. > > --------------080904050500010708030704 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080904050500010708030704-- From - Thu Jul 05 12:16:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:16:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fat People are Killing the Polar Bears. References: <0PednXaLSuqmihDbnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <0PednXaLSuqmihDbnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060809030300000900080202" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060809030300000900080202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure why it's "science" and "research" when the findingssupport global warming.. but when it questions global warming it's "attacking"? Rich wrote: > > > http://www.climate-resistance.org/2007/07/fat-people-are-killing-polar-bears.html > > > Tuesday, July 03, 2007 > Fat People are Killing the Polar Bears > > Two recent gems from New Scientist magazine... > > First up, Climate Change Sceptics Criticise Polar Bear Science, a story > about some bad scientists, funded by bad money, who have apparently > published some bad science in what is presumably a bad science journal, > for bad reasons. > > As the poster child for the climate change generation polar bears > have come to symbolise the need to tackle climate change. But their > popularity has attracted the attention of global warming sceptics > funded by the oil industry, who have started to attack polar bear > science. > > Willie Soon's paper, which appears in the journal Ecological Complexity, > questions 'whether polar bear populations really are declining and if > sea ice, on which the animals hunt, will actually disappear as quickly > as climate models predict.' But that's all New Scientist has to say > about the science. > > Soon, who receives funding for this and other work from Exxon-Mobil, > has been attacking climate change science for several years. Three > of the six other authors also have links to the oil industry. > > The social construction of science doesn't get much attention from the > science press - or anyone else - these days. Science won the Science > Wars. Scientific findings flourish or fail by the cold, objective, > rational method of hypothesis testing, peer review and replication. And > that's all there is to it. Except, of course, when the science in > question is funded by the oil industry. Because oil money, or just the > faintest whiff of it, trumps the scientific method every time. > > Ultimately, carping on about Exxon-funded scientists only serves to > undermine the worth of all that hypothesis testing, peer review and > replication. Because if dirty money overrides them, what else does? Is > it any wonder that science doesn't get the respect the scientific > establishment thinks it deserves? Science is having its own Science Wars > all by itself - with not a sociologist to be seen. > > Even more absurd is Say No to Global Guzzling - How the Obesity Epidemic > is Aggravating Global Warming by Ian Roberts of the London School of > Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, who appears to be offering an > epidemiological perspective on global warming. > > We tend to think of obesity only as a public-health problem, but > many of its causes overlap with those of global warming. Car > dependence and labour-saving devices have cut the energy people > expend as they go about their lives, at the same time increasing > the amount of fossil fuel they burn. It's no coincidence that > obesity is most prevalent in the US, where per capita carbon > emissions exceed those of any other major nation, and it is > becoming clear that obese people are having a direct impact > on the climate. > > Roberts speciously reasons that obese people, who (allegedly) consume > 40% more calories than non obese people, (allegedly) use their cars more > because they are too fat to move properly, and (allegedly) eat the kind > of things which are more CO2 intensive, contribute disproportionately to > global warming than their thin counterparts. > > Roberts's argument is not scientific, but a narrow, shallow, and hollow > critique of capitalist society: > > The social stigma attached to obesity is one of the few forces > slowing the epidemic - even though obesity is not a personal > failing but a problem of society. We live in an environment > that serves primarily the financial interests of the corporations > that sell food, cars, and petroleum. > > This serving of 'financial interest' traps people in vicious cycles of > low-self esteem and comfort eating, diminished mobility/health and car > use - all to the detriment of the environment. > > And as the number of obese people increases, a kind of positive > feedback kicks in. Obese people in the US are already throwing > their political weight around. > > Roberts then asks us to panic about the possibility of the political > voice of fat Americans being used to demand, elevators, escalators, and > other forms of labour-saving mechanisation, which in turn worsens the > cycle of increasing fuel use, carbon emissions, and the world's waistlines. > > When all that the best clinical minds can offer is the political idea > that people's desire for food and labour-saving devices (ie, higher > standards of living) are expressions of a kind of false consciousness, > small wonder that people complain about 'health fascism'. Roberts has > such contempt for the public that he assumes to know their political and > material interests better than they do, and pretends that it is > 'capitalism wot makes 'em do it'... that people are too fat headed to > know what to eat. > > It must be lean times at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical > Medicine, because this poverty-stricken argument is so bloated, it needs > four bandwagons to wheel it onto the pages of the New Scientist: > obesity, global warming, anti-Americanism and anti-capitalism. All > that's missing is a photo of a polar bear perched on a dwindling ice floe. > > > --------------060809030300000900080202 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060809030300000900080202-- From - Thu Jul 05 12:23:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 12:23:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Charlie, Carbon, and the Carrots References: <0PednXCLSurGhBDbnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <0PednXCLSurGhBDbnZ2dnUVZ_t7inZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050002060700060606000008" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050002060700060606000008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > > Prince Charles's footprint has hit the headlines again. He is now > officially 'carbon neutral'. > > Among the first to congratulate the next in line to the throne was > Friends of the Earth Director, Tony Juniper: > Does he get a gold lighter or a Stainless Bar-B-Q with that? --------------050002060700060606000008 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050002060700060606000008-- From - Thu Jul 05 13:50:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:50:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's inconvenient tax References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000600070802020304000400" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000600070802020304000400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > > http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0705/p08s01-comv.html > > Al Gore's inconvenient tax > > What you probably won't hear at the Live Earth concert: a call for > higher taxes on gasoline and fuel. > Call it what it is (CARBON TAX) The ability to use another tax to manipulate and force you to do what government wants. A path around the Constitution. --------------000600070802020304000400 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000600070802020304000400-- From - Thu Jul 05 14:38:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:38:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: The answer to global warming References: <468d34ba$0$19127$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <468d34ba$0$19127$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050302040602010505060307" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050302040602010505060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > If everyone who believes in the doom of global warming would cut their > useage of fossil fuels by 90 percent as big Al suggests, that should take > care of it. The sceptics wouldn't have to cut anything. Yes, it wouldn't get > rid of emissions completely but it's a first step until everyone gets aboard > the bandwagon. So how many AGW-Nazis are willing to do that? S'funny, all I > hear are crickets. > > > > Liberals in the Global warming church... don't want to solve global warming, you just danced around the truth. They plan to use the fabricated issue to ad more control over our lives. Funny that they complain about Bush using phone conversations to catch terrorist, yet liberals use "global warming " to attempt to infringe on property rights. It's OK in their mind to step all over the Constitution for Global warming but you can't step on it for saving American lives. --------------050302040602010505060307 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050302040602010505060307-- From - Thu Jul 05 14:48:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:48:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183331833.473001.68940@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183347404.966044.147360@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183409711.625070.307770@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183656731.573669.182570@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <5uaji.46463$aS5.8895@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <5uaji.46463$aS5.8895@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010501070905070300000504" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010501070905070300000504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Androcles wrote: > : Uh, quantum processes are inherently random. > > You certainly have no understanding of chaos theory. > http://order.ph.utexas.edu/chaos/ > > > The only thing that doesn't change, is that everything changes. --------------010501070905070300000504 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010501070905070300000504-- From - Thu Jul 05 14:56:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:56:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <1183331220.476118.36210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4759f108.2596276688@news.giganews.com> <475f5198.2620996423@news.giganews.com> <3eqdnRKsxKbPNRTbnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@comcast.com> <4765ab61.2643981965@news.giganews.com> <328q83tdo3e9oir92e23gu8dnvbu3hlsek@4ax.com> <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010300070702030500090800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010300070702030500090800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rand Simberg wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:27:13 -0900, in a place far, far away, Whata > Fool made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a > way as to indicate that: > > >> Can you say OPEC, conspiracy, monopoly? >> It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood... Check to see who's at the door. --------------010300070702030500090800 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010300070702030500090800-- From - Thu Jul 05 15:20:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:20:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Human greed takes lion's share of solar energy References: <1183658175.163672.250200@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183658175.163672.250200@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000707030202090700050100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000707030202090700050100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aloha.kakuikanu wrote: 
On Jul 5, 8:38 am, Rich <some...@someplace.not> wrote:
  
... humans used 24 per cent of the energy that was captured by plants.
More than half of this was due to the harvesting of crops or other plants.

The human use of the natural resource varied across the globe, ranging from 11
per cent in Oceania and Australia, to 63 per cent in southern Asia.

An agriculture professor at the University of Melbourne, Snow Barlow, said the
paper showed humans were taking up too much of an important natural resource.
    

Sure insects -- the most abundant species on earth -- should get
better share. Power to cockroaches!
I saved us from some of that global warming.. I killed a cockroach the other day.
--------------000707030202090700050100 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000707030202090700050100-- From - Thu Jul 05 15:53:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:53:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.chem,sci.physics Subject: Re: Al Gore's son arrested for pot References: <1183587183.320065.212990@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183659955.493457.245170@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183659955.493457.245170@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070107070205090304040509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070107070205090304040509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: >> found something better. >> > > Wonder how much of a carbon footprint pot smokers have. > > Wonder how they would measure it, by the oz. or by the pound? You have to ad their anti Big Oil/Global Warming festival, with the fire that they'll sit around singing "Coombya" - then the gas to get there. Their cost of importing the really good weed. Ad all the extra munchee's, the fuel wasted as they drive around lost ... They probably use more carbon than the rest of us. Screw it They can buy Offsets from Al Gore. More of the Liberal wienies saving us, while they're actually killing us. Every where you look Liberals save us right to death, They killed millions with malaria, saving us from DDT. Saved us from nukes and radiation, and that's now causing Global warming? Saved us from the church, and that's now killing us from HIV Saved us from Imperialism, that killed millions in Cambodia... --------------070107070205090304040509 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070107070205090304040509-- From - Thu Jul 05 16:21:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:21:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: global stupidity Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080104090102060303020209" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080104090102060303020209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: >> found something better. >> > > Wonder how much of a carbon footprint pot smokers have. > > Wonder how they would measure it, by the oz. or by the pound? You have to ad their anti Big Oil/Global Warming festival, with the fire that they'll sit around singing "Coombya" - then the gas to get there. Their cost of importing the really good weed. Ad all the extra munchee's, the fuel wasted as they drive around lost ... They probably use more carbon than the rest of us. Screw it They can buy Offsets from Al Gore. More of the Liberal wienies saving us, while they're actually killing us. Every where you look Liberals save us right to death, They killed millions with malaria, saving us from DDT. Saved us from nukes and radiation, and that's now causing Global warming? Saved us from the church, and that's now killing us from HIV Saved us from Imperialism, that killed millions in Cambodia... An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. --------------080104090102060303020209 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080104090102060303020209-- From - Thu Jul 05 16:30:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:29:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalism: the new death cult? References: <%sbji.13759$_l6.386@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <1183663327.940511.39630@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183663327.940511.39630@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030707050206060404050804" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030707050206060404050804 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000102040702050607090405" --------------000102040702050607090405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 5, 2:17 pm, "altheim" wrote: > >> "Rich" wrote: >> >> >>> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brendan_oneill/2007/07/environmen... >>> >>> Environmentalism: the new death cult? >>> >>> The New Atheists attack the crumbling churches yet ignore the >>> rehabilitation of backwards religious sensibilities under the guise of >>> green values. >>> Brendan O'Neill >>> July 3, 2007 9:00 AM >>> >> [snip] >> >> This is all very interesting (not - its actually quite boring) but >> you might have pesented a more balanced view had you posted >> Why does it need to be balanced? If /I tell you the earth is round, should I then explain why it's flat?/ --------------000102040702050607090405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: 
On Jul 5, 2:17 pm, "altheim" <alth...@freeuk.com> wrote:
  
"Rich" <some...@someplace.not> wrote:

    
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brendan_oneill/2007/07/environmen...
      
Environmentalism: the new death cult?
      
The New Atheists attack the crumbling churches yet ignore the
rehabilitation of backwards religious sensibilities under the guise of
green values.
Brendan O'Neill
July 3, 2007 9:00 AM
      
[snip]

This is all very interesting (not - its actually quite boring) but
you might have pesented a more balanced view had you posted
Why does it need to be balanced? If I tell you the earth is round, should I then explain why it's flat?
--------------000102040702050607090405-- --------------030707050206060404050804 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030707050206060404050804-- From - Thu Jul 05 16:34:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:34:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: should I then explain why it's flat? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060706000601000901000804" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060706000601000901000804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 5, 2:17 pm, "altheim" wrote: > >> "Rich" wrote: >> >> >>> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brendan_oneill/2007/07/environmen... >>> >>> Environmentalism: the new death cult? >>> >>> The New Atheists attack the crumbling churches yet ignore the >>> rehabilitation of backwards religious sensibilities under the guise of >>> green values. >>> Brendan O'Neill >>> July 3, 2007 9:00 AM >>> >> [snip] >> >> This is all very interesting (not - its actually quite boring) but >> you might have pesented a more balanced view had you posted...{crap....snipped....} >> Why does it need to be balanced? If /I tell you the earth is round, should I then explain why it's flat?/ --------------060706000601000901000804 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060706000601000901000804-- From - Thu Jul 05 16:43:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:43:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Human greed takes lion's share of solar energy References: <1183658175.163672.250200@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060808060407050607030200" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060808060407050607030200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > aloha.kakuikanu wrote: >> On Jul 5, 8:38 am, Rich wrote: >> >>> ... humans used 24 per cent of the energy that was captured by plants. >>> More than half of this was due to the harvesting of crops or other plants. >>> >>> The human use of the natural resource varied across the globe, ranging from 11 >>> per cent in Oceania and Australia, to 63 per cent in southern Asia. >>> >>> An agriculture professor at the University of Melbourne, Snow Barlow, said the >>> paper showed humans were taking up too much of an important natural resource. >>> >> >> Sure insects -- the most abundant species on earth -- should get >> better share. Power to cockroaches! >> >> > I saved us from some of that global warming.. I killed a cockroach the > other day. Now I get a carbon offset, to sell... All the bug companies and the slaughter houses can sell offsets as they kill things that would otherwise be alive and sucking up oxygen and exhausting cO2. Al Gore the father of the new Soilent Green (creating cash by selling death) --------------060808060407050607030200 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060808060407050607030200-- From - Thu Jul 05 17:00:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:00:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.gw-bush,alt.politics.democrat,alt.politics.greens,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.society.liberalism Subject: Re: ~ 4 MORE OIL INVADERS CRUSHED LIKE GNATS - (no WMDs yet) ~ References: <42AC680B.33BEBB82@IRAQ.COM> In-Reply-To: <42AC680B.33BEBB82@IRAQ.COM> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030903080503080304000001" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030903080503080304000001 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IRAQ is AMERICA'S - R O A C H M O T E L - wrote: > Four U.S. oil soldiers killed in bomb attacks west of Baghdad > Sunday June 12, 2005 > > BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) Four U.S. oil soldiers were killed in separate > roadside bombings west of Baghdad, the military said Sunday. > > Two oil soldiers were killed Saturday when a bomb exploded near their > vehicle outside Amiriyah, some 25 miles west of Baghdad. > > Two other oil soldiers also died Saturday when their vehicle struck a > bomb near Taqaddum, 45 miles west of Baghdad. > > At least 1,702 members of the U.S. Oil Nazis have been crushed since the > beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated > Press count. > > http://cbsnewyork.com/international/Iraq-SoldiersKilled-ai/resources_news_html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 0 WMDs > Bush the lying Oil Nazi is a War Criminal > Poke the hornets nest with a stick and watch the results... --------------030903080503080304000001 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030903080503080304000001-- From - Thu Jul 05 17:36:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:36:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: seattle.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,alt.news-media,soc.culture.canada Subject: Re: What is the real solution to the immigration problem? References: <1183016954.193681.99490@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183100109.837048.122780@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183135465.869042.166940@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183184843.806188.212240@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1aq1j1j1u6gpj.er2mwforutsl$.dlg@40tude.net> <1183275213.730041.319430@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183349015.915415.25740@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1rt4hhrhtapmk$.89q81jkoulwz$.dlg@40tude.net> <1183481506.734310.87110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183550959.270999.189910@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1q7ci5bgjfd3y$.19a4vs1voto2l.dlg@40tude.net> In-Reply-To: <1q7ci5bgjfd3y$.19a4vs1voto2l.dlg@40tude.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000202030003040206070303" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000202030003040206070303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pancho Cabron wrote: > On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:09:19 -0000, Prince of Pointers wrote: > > >> On Jul 4, 1:35 pm, Pancho Cabron wrote: >> >> >>>> Excuse me for pointing out your error, but (a) I was never in favor of >>>> the Bill, and (b) it did NOT pass. So your point about 12,000,000 >>>> illegals is no point at all. The reason why current law is not >>>> enforced is it isn't enforceable. So it is bad law. >>>> >>> Since we cant catch every murderer, rapist, child pornographer or drug >>> dealer either. You'd be in favor of stopping enforcing those laws too. >>> > > The most simple plan I've heard is part Ann Coulter and part Neal Boortz.... Ann said to make it legal for the illegal aliens to sue the employers that pay less than minimum wage. I think that then you add the Boortz plan onto it so that Illegal aliens can be arrested for earning illegal money, then their cash houses cars boats can be confiscated.... just like citizens who earn money illegally by ( - selling drugs - ). No deporting them or fencing them out or any of that, they will happily find their own way home when there's no money for them here. --------------000202030003040206070303 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOkFuIGlnbm9yYW50IHBlcnNvbiBpcyBvbmUgd2hvIGRvZXNuJ3Qg a25vdyB3aGF0IHlvdSBoYXZlIGp1c3QgZm91bmQgb3V0Lg0Kbjo7QW4gaWdub3JhbnQgcGVy c29uIGlzIG9uZSB3aG8gZG9lc24ndCBrbm93IHdoYXQgeW91IGhhdmUganVzdCBmb3VuZCBv dXQuDQp2ZXJzaW9uOjIuMQ0KZW5kOnZjYXJkDQoNCg== --------------000202030003040206070303-- From - Thu Jul 05 18:38:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:38:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: U.S. Record Temperatures, 2 July 2007 References: <468D6260.10508@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <468D6260.10508@comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060701010201020802080706" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060701010201020802080706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SeanR wrote: > Eric Swanson wrote: >> 2 July 2007 >> >> RECORD EVENT REPORTS FROM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DATA >> >> NEW PREVIOUS YEAR OF >> LOCATION RECORD RECORD PREVIOUS >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE: >> >> BRYCE CANYON AP, UT 89 86 1953 >> DENVER, CO 100 TIE 100 1990 >> ESCALANTE, UT 101 100 2002 >> EUREKA, CA 71 69 1983 >> GRAND JUNCTION, CO 103 TIE 103 2002 GREEN RIVER, >> UT 106 TIE 106 1937 >> HANKSVILLE, UT 110 108 2002 >> LAKETOWN, UT 92 TIE 92 1961 >> TOOELE, UT 101 TIE 101 1996 >> >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE: >> >> AVOCA, PA 44 46 1982 >> HOULTON, ME 38 39 1992 >> MANSFIELD, OH 45 47 1988 >> READING, PA 50 TIE 50 1982 >> SALISBURY, MD 46 46 1952 >> >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH MINIMUM TEMPERATURE: >> >> WENDOVER, UT 79 76 1950 >> >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD LOW MAXIMUM TEMPERATURE: >> >> HOUSTON AP, TX 84 86 2006 >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Hmmm, whenever I see someone point out that a current cold-spell might > refute the idea of Global Warming, all sorts of folks chime in about > not being stupid enough to confuse "weather" with "climate..." That's why I post the cold and rain reports. They all show their Hypocrisy in front of God and everybody. The Global warming freaks shoot mine down and then refute it with another "OOOoowwww it's too hot" story. It just makes'em look stupid, like faking out the dumb dog and acting like you really threw the ball.... --------------060701010201020802080706 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060701010201020802080706-- From - Thu Jul 05 18:44:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:44:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.news-media Subject: Hypocrites Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000207080906050708030709" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000207080906050708030709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Send Edwards $1200 to help the poor guy get a hair cut. --------------000207080906050708030709 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000207080906050708030709-- From - Thu Jul 05 20:04:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:04:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalism: the new death cult? References: <%sbji.13759$_l6.386@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <1183663327.940511.39630@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183663327.940511.39630@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080508050202000707080509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080508050202000707080509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > The greens don't want the *world* to end, they just want to use shrill > alarmist end-of-the-world predictions to "save" the world from humans > which means basically to go back to stone-age-like lifestyles which > means the end of the world as we know it. > > They're the U.S. version of Muslim Clerics.... they want us to go back in time. Just a reaction to advancing civilization, things moving faster than they can handle. --------------080508050202000707080509 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080508050202000707080509-- From - Thu Jul 05 20:12:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:12:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: The Joker and the Penguin Where's Batman? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000808020502040001050502" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000808020502040001050502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But the pack ice is foe as well as friend to the Adelies. If the birds do not keep moving, the pack ice will cut off their access to open water as it freezes up solidly behind them, preventing the penguins from hunting for food. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-penguins_mainjul01,1,7693505.story?page=3&cset=true&ctrack=1&coll=chi-news-hed In the Arctic north, the extent of the winter pack ice has shrunk by 20 percent in the last 50 years, and its average thickness has thinned by 50 percent. By 2100 -- when a United Nations panel predicts the planet's average temperature will have risen between 3.2 and 7.1 degrees Fahrenheit -- all of it may be gone. At the other end of the world, the Antarctic pack ice has not been so severely disrupted. But in West Antarctica, where warming has been greatest, the ice has begun to shrink. "Right now global warming is doing great things for penguins in the Ross Sea," said Ainley. "Adelie penguins now probably are more abundant, continent-wide, than they've been for 3,000 years." --------------000808020502040001050502 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000808020502040001050502-- From - Thu Jul 05 22:07:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:07:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: What a coincidence Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040305060704040508050107" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040305060704040508050107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mars According to Michael Malin of MSSS , Mars Surveyor images of pits and ridges in the Polar caps, studied over a full Martian year (two Earth years) suggest that as much as 10 feet per Martian annum of ice at the South pole is currently being "lost. http://www.enterprisemission.com/warming.htm Earth In the Arctic north, the extent of the winter pack ice has shrunk by 20 percent in the last 50 years, and its average thickness has thinned by 50 percent. By 2100 -- when a United Nations panel predicts the planet's average temperature will have risen between 3.2 and 7.1 degrees Fahrenheit -- all of it may be gone. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-penguins_mainjul01,1,7693505.story?page=3&cset=true&ctrack=1&coll=chi-news-hed Two planets HHHHhhhhhmmmm ? What a coincidence --------------040305060704040508050107 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040305060704040508050107-- From - Thu Jul 05 22:11:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:11:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <4759f108.2596276688@news.giganews.com> <475f5198.2620996423@news.giganews.com> <3eqdnRKsxKbPNRTbnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@comcast.com> <4765ab61.2643981965@news.giganews.com> <328q83tdo3e9oir92e23gu8dnvbu3hlsek@4ax.com> <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> <4776466e.2880343134@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060502000803030504080800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060502000803030504080800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:29:22 GMT, simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand > Simberg) wrote: > > >>>>> Can you say OPEC, conspiracy, monopoly? >>>>> >>>>> >>> It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood... Check to see who's at the door. >>> >> I didn't write that. "Whata Fool" (whatanappropriate screen name) >> did. >> > > Of course you didn't write it, you don't think that > representatives of oil producing and exporting companies holding > meetings to establish production quotas to prevent prices from dropping > is "price fixing". > > But keep the price high, that will help ethanol other > biofuels get into production, and that is needed for the future, > regardless of prices, CO2 emissions, or political actions. > > So just don't buy any oil products... > > --------------060502000803030504080800 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060502000803030504080800-- From - Thu Jul 05 22:21:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:21:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does a Global Temperature Exist? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090101050400080602040506" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090101050400080602040506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:51:30 -0500, Bill Habr wrote: > > >> "Rich" wrote in message >> news:c4GdncMqzeN9_BDbnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> Everything has a temperature therefore a global temperature exists. >> > > What is that temperature that everything has? 14C? > HHhhhmmmm so you insert the anal thermometer where? I s the core temp rising? Is the sun temp rising? Is the void of space, temp rising? are the nearest stars temp rising? Is the moon temp rising? Is the earth heating evenly? Why/Why not --------------090101050400080602040506 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090101050400080602040506-- From - Thu Jul 05 22:48:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 22:48:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: The "Bill Clinton" Posts Are Back, Which Means It's Panic Time For Republi-Shills References: <1183594434.955367.197390@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040107040703000508040903" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040107040703000508040903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harold Burton wrote: > In article , > Mitchell Holman wrote: > > >> Tankfixer wrote in news:JTgji.4416$Od7.232 >> @newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: >> >> >>> In article <1183594434.955367.197390@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com>, >>> tomaxo@aol.com mumbled >>> >>>> You can always judge the level of desperation amongst Republi-shills >>>> by the number of posts about Bill Clinton (Clinton did this, Clinton >>>> did that, "look, over there", etc.) >>>> >>>> And boy are there a lot of new posts about Bill Clinton these >>>> days...... >>>> >>> Actually his conduct is germian now that his wife is running for >>> President.... >>> >> And the conduct of the Bush girls is equally germain now >> that their father IS the president, no? >> > > > No. > All Spoiled elite little snot nosed kids... --------------040107040703000508040903 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040107040703000508040903-- From - Thu Jul 05 23:00:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:00:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <4759f108.2596276688@news.giganews.com> <475f5198.2620996423@news.giganews.com> <3eqdnRKsxKbPNRTbnZ2dnUVZ_oupnZ2d@comcast.com> <4765ab61.2643981965@news.giganews.com> <328q83tdo3e9oir92e23gu8dnvbu3hlsek@4ax.com> <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> <4776466e.2880343134@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050306030508050004050605" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050306030508050004050605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:29:22 GMT, simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand > Simberg) wrote: > > >>>>> Can you say OPEC, conspiracy, monopoly? >>>>> >>>>> >>> It's a wonderful day in the neighborhood... Check to see who's at the door. >>> >> I didn't write that. "Whata Fool" (whatanappropriate screen name) >> did. >> > > Of course you didn't write it, you don't think that > representatives of oil producing and exporting companies holding > meetings to establish production quotas to prevent prices from dropping > is "price fixing". > > But keep the price high, that will help ethanol other > biofuels get into production, and that is needed for the future, > regardless of prices, CO2 emissions, or political actions. > > And it will raise the price of BEER, there is a barley shortage due to corn being planted on every square inch. ethanol produces Co2 and water vapor = So called Global warming gases. --------------050306030508050004050605 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050306030508050004050605-- From - Thu Jul 05 23:27:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:27:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! IT'S THE ATTACK OF THE 100-FOOT WARMING MARS LIE! References: <1183688544.533544.222350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040705030009040902070206" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040705030009040902070206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Do a search on the archive of this newsgroup >> for the word "Mars." This stupidest of fossil >> fool lies has been debunked just too many times >> here. >> 1 -- To prove a warming trend like global warming >> one needs three decades of readings at hundreds >> of locations all over the planet. (Mars's years >> are longer than Earth's, remember.) We humans >> these data on only one planet, our own. >> 2 -- Using Mars for a proxy for solar radiation >> totally silly, when direct observations of solar >> radiation are available. Only fossil fool space >> cadets look to estimates of the brightness of >> some distant planet to measure solar behavior. >> >> Over the last 29 years direct, not proxy, measurement >> of the Sun's output has shown no long term growth >> large enough to explain the warming of the Earth, only >> an 11-year cycle is noticed: >> http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant > > Total Solar irridence? Do they also measure magnetic field > strength and particle flux? Radiation can cook you... A space cloud? A parallel universe star explosion. Quarks... we just found those a while back by going deep underground. What haven't we found? what haven't we looked at? Internal pressure? The secret Russian/ U.S. weather machine war... but rain and drought are a staple for weather men to harp on, it's just weather. Sun enlarging? Why aren't beach front houses selling - dirt cheap? If there's a cloud over the Gulf... the oil commodities run the prices up . We're talking disaster and the price of beach homes is rising when global warming should drop prices? The "smart money" says Global warming - ocean flood is a lousy investment. High altitude cool weather homes... are they hot items? Are you looking at land in Alaska? --------------040705030009040902070206 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040705030009040902070206-- From - Thu Jul 05 23:33:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:33:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does a Global Temperature Exist? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060901080301020302050100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060901080301020302050100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:51:30 -0500, Bill Habr wrote: > > >> "Rich" wrote in message >> news:c4GdncMqzeN9_BDbnZ2dnUVZ_oOknZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> Everything has a temperature therefore a global temperature exists. >> > > What is that temperature that everything has? 14C? > > What is the temp of the universe? Is the temp of the entire universe rising? Maybe this is galactic or universe warming? Think Macro and Micro. --------------060901080301020302050100 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060901080301020302050100-- From - Fri Jul 06 00:07:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:07:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: If AGW were proved trivial tomorrow, what then? References: <1183694216.287170.289660@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183694216.287170.289660@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020407080300060700050103" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020407080300060700050103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > If tomorrow, a scientific team led by a person of unimpeachable > honesty and rigour (let's call him "Dr No"), that had access to real > time data robust enough to make absolutely unimpeachable inferences > about the role of anthropogenic CO2 concluded that there was no good > basis for thinking that anthopogenic CO2 (or even any CO2 or other > GHGs) was measurably contributing to climate change, what would be > different? > Now apply this standard to Al Gore and Friends... then imagine life is like it was Before Al (1975BA) --------------020407080300060700050103 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020407080300060700050103-- From - Fri Jul 06 09:41:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:41:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Al's carbon tax Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050300060507010309080403" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050300060507010309080403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I watched a few minutes of Al Gore on the tube last night.... He wants to replace the income tax system with a CARBON TAX system, Why not just replace the income tax with the "Fair TAX " which would be a tax on all goods, not just carbon. Don't all goods take some carbon units to produce? --------------050300060507010309080403 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050300060507010309080403-- From - Fri Jul 06 09:55:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:55:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Microwaves heating Earth Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040400060406030605040505" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040400060406030605040505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The thunderstorm solar power satellite (TSPS) is a concept for interacting with thunderstorms to prevent formation of tornadoes. The TSPS can develop and demonstrate the technology and operations critical to understanding the cost of space solar power. Computer simulations are the initial step to evaluate the TSPS. A key trade study is the comparison of a network of ground-based antennas with the space-based TSPS. Concepts using mobile ground-based equipment are expected to be significant in validating the intervention process. Significant considerations are complex storm interactions and concern for safety. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/9422/29900/01367646.pdf So where could microwaves be in use on earth, Ovens, communications, Radar, Weather machines, military weapons, ... How about space oriented microwaves? --------------040400060406030605040505 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040400060406030605040505-- From - Fri Jul 06 10:05:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:05:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The answer to global warming References: <468d34ba$0$19127$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1183679298.476198.4670@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <468db584@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1183692865.854867.198540@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183694279.860249.202630@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183694279.860249.202630@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040808080400010103060209" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040808080400010103060209 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 6, 1:43 pm, Rich wrote: > >> Fran wrote: >> >>> On Jul 6, 1:22 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >>> >> [...] >> >> >>>> Hey Fran, you can kick it off and reduce your emissions by 100% >>>> immediately! >>>> >>> It's hard to see how I could. On the other hand, I haven't suggested >>> that any individual try reducing their emissions by 100%. >>> >> How about an easier target, reduce your emissions below Al Gore's? >> > > > I suspect I already have. > > Next. > > Fran > > most everyone has --------------040808080400010103060209 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040808080400010103060209-- From - Fri Jul 06 10:13:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:13:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! IT'S THE ATTACK OF THE 100-FOOT WARMING MARS LIE! References: <1183688544.533544.222350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183688544.533544.222350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030804040900090100050407" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030804040900090100050407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Do a search on the archive of this newsgroup > for the word "Mars." This stupidest of fossil > fool lies has been debunked just too many times > here. > 1 -- To prove a warming trend like global warming > one needs three decades of readings at hundreds > of locations all over the planet. (Mars's years > are longer than Earth's, remember.) We humans > these data on only one planet, our own. > 2 -- Using Mars for a proxy for solar radiation > totally silly, when direct observations of solar > radiation are available. Only fossil fool space > cadets look to estimates of the brightness of > some distant planet to measure solar behavior. > > Over the last 29 years direct, not proxy, measurement > of the Sun's output has shown no long term growth > large enough to explain the warming of the Earth, only > an 11-year cycle is noticed: > http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant > http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Changes_In_Solar_Brightness_Too_Wea... > > 3 -- You have the facts, NOW STOP SPAMMING THIS NEWSGROUP! > When in doubt stick your head in the sand... fall back and punt? If we don't have the data then that can't be the answer ? I think that kind of science was what has been debunked. --------------030804040900090100050407 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030804040900090100050407-- From - Fri Jul 06 11:23:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:23:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: public admission of global warming fraud:>> "True Believers" References: <1183732099.463092.40200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <468e5426$0$11030$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <468e5426$0$11030$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090405080800020101000605" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090405080800020101000605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "Tunderbar" wrote in message > news:1183732099.463092.40200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... > >> "What we've got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the >> global >> warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have >> approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, >> so we >> will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and >> environmental policy." - Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D- >> Colorado) >> >> >> >> "In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a >> bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous >> obstacle >> to any discussion of solutions. Nobody is interested in solutions if >> they don't think there's a problem. Given that starting point, I >> believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual >> presentations on how dangerous (global warming) is, as a predicate >> for >> opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how >> hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis." -- Al Gore >> >> > > This is only 2 examples of the fraud. However, there are those who couldn't > care less. It's a chance at activism to make them think they have some worth > in society when they have none and they know it. > > > > AAaaahhhhh the good old days.... Easy Rider Hot Liberal chicks The sense of belonging to a cause The chance of becoming almost famous The drugs The I don't care attitude mixed with passion for a cause. The me myself and I attitude. The adventure Global warming "BELIEVERS" are thinking back to the good'ol days. But thinking they might succeed this time around . The >>Find a cause and relive your youth Generation<< --------------090405080800020101000605 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090405080800020101000605-- From - Fri Jul 06 11:32:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 11:32:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fossil DNA Proves Greenland Once Had Lush Forests; Ice Sheet Is Surprisingly Stable References: <5p6dnahHSfxDHBDbnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183682367.000370.285480@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1183683693.534465.30730@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183714555.625159.309160@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010102090201020403070302" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010102090201020403070302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Where does the temperature start rising again with altitude, > the new observations of high glowing clouds that have not been seen much > before should be interesting in the study of high altitude temperatures, > they suggest a source of heat from infalling space dust, and there may > very well be regions in space where there is more dust. > The thunderstorm solar power satellite (TSPS) is a concept for interacting with thunderstorms to prevent formation of tornadoes. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/Xplore/login.jsp?url=/iel5/9422/29900/01367646.pdf --------------010102090201020403070302 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010102090201020403070302-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:05:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:05:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: "True Believers" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010502040009030609080205" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010502040009030609080205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The believers start with the answer and look for questions that fit... when they should have questions and discover what they mean. Global warming is a preconceived notion that "believers" try to make the excuse for instituting their preference in social engineering. (It's a cult) --------------010502040009030609080205 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010502040009030609080205-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:13:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:13:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: public admission of global warming fraud References: <1183732099.463092.40200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183732099.463092.40200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060401040109070208070609" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060401040109070208070609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > > > "In the United States of America, unfortunately we still live in a > bubble of unreality. And the Category 5 denial is an enormous > obstacle > > This would be the Jerry Springer bubble? As for "The Believers" You'll have to come up with a few facts that make sense before I'll drink your Cool-ade. --------------060401040109070208070609 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060401040109070208070609-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:46:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:46:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: True Believers Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040002020105080605080406" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040002020105080605080406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? --------------040002020105080605080406 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040002020105080605080406-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:51:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:51:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Gore Defends Live Earth Concerts, Self References: <1183738552.728549.220190@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1183739118.222627.54410@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183739305.595342.305750@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183739629.815692.38620@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183739629.815692.38620@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060205020704020202060305" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060205020704020202060305 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 6, 11:28 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 6, 9:25 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> >>> The man earns $125,000 per speech on global warming. >> Here in San Diego, Gore has given one speech for $100,000 >> which he gave to a local charity. Two other speeches he >> gave for free. > > That's supposed to make it all right? Get real. > Remember he's a cult leader, they want the "True Believers" to give to the church Leader.(It's a cult) --------------060205020704020202060305 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060205020704020202060305-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:53:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:53:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Gore Defends Live Earth Concerts, Self References: <1183738552.728549.220190@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1183738680.985232.102400@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183739495.356193.101520@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183739495.356193.101520@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080904090104030609050304" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080904090104030609050304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:18 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 6, 11:15 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >>> For a very good antidote to all the negative spin, >>> please see both the article and the video at:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/06/earlyshow/leisure/music/mai... >> Not good enough. > > Tell us how, Mr. Dunderbar you read an article, > and watched a 5 minute video in only 3 minutes? > (9:18-9:15!) You couldn't be prejudging now > could you? > That was during a Global warming created time warp... --------------080904090104030609050304 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080904090104030609050304-- From - Fri Jul 06 12:56:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 12:56:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <6oc883torrp8vjo6j9rfden09ifq0dnjcc@4ax.com> <1183084877.632806.89480@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1183395153.901455.146510@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <4689d5fc$0$14109$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <1183484877.296246.9820@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1183738786.791741.41510@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183738786.791741.41510@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080704040401020906000907" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080704040401020906000907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Chomko wrote: > On Jul 5, 7:56 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> Eric Chomko wrote: >> >> : >> :Hold it there Miquel, Freddy has papers that state he is not insane. >> : >> >> And Eric obviously does not have such papers... > > No, but my dog does... > >> -- >> "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is >> only stupid." >> -- Heinrich Heine > > Was that a bigoted remark on dogs... OR Were you just saying that your dog didn't think much of the information? --------------080704040401020906000907 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080704040401020906000907-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:06:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:06:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: LET'S BAN CHINESE FOOD! References: <1183740322.580735.74170@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183740822.119403.124150@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183741093.549625.88400@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183741093.549625.88400@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000105000806000203080300" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000105000806000203080300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:53 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 6, 11:45 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >>> (A introduction to the logic of industry public relations spin.) >>> Let's ban Chinese food! After all, >>> look at all the Chinese that die every year. >>> Let's ignore climate data, After all, >>> a multi-year search found half-a-dozen >>> bad stations among thousands. >> Let's all become climate modellers. After all their projections will >> guarantee us high incomes for generations to come. > > There are several climate modelers who read this newsgroup. > They are all laughing now at the joke about the high incomes. > But not the first thing they had to laugh at here --------------000105000806000203080300 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000105000806000203080300-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:07:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:07:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040605010705030900050108" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040605010705030900050108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >> >> TalknDog.vcf >> 1KDownload > > There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is > called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and > make the world literally greener in the process. > But "we" didn't make it. --------------040605010705030900050108 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040605010705030900050108-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:11:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:11:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: LET'S BAN CHINESE FOOD! References: <1183740322.580735.74170@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183740822.119403.124150@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183740822.119403.124150@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060903050704030709040902" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060903050704030709040902 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 6, 11:45 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> (A introduction to the logic of industry public relations spin.) >> >> Let's ban Chinese food! After all, >> look at all the Chinese that die every year. >> >> Let's ignore climate data, After all, >> a multi-year search found half-a-dozen >> bad stations among thousands. > > Let's all become climate modellers. After all their projections will > guarantee us high incomes for generations to come. > I have a program that computes carbon footprints and does Global warming modeling and... it'll pick the lottery winners. So far it's telling me to, wear shoes, buy a coat, and get a job... --------------060903050704030709040902 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060903050704030709040902-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:14:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:14:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183741432.929677.23770@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183741432.929677.23770@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010901040904030409060007" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010901040904030409060007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:56 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>> TalknDog.vcf >>> 1KDownload >> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >> make the world literally greener in the process. > > They have had a century to do it, and they can't\ > keep up with mankind's emission rate, even with > help from the ocean. The net result is an > exponentially increasing atmospheric CO2 > concentration. Please see: > > http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg > > I thought we cut them down over the last 100 years --------------010901040904030409060007 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010901040904030409060007-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:22:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:22:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183741432.929677.23770@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183741432.929677.23770@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050205000206020604020806" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050205000206020604020806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:56 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>> TalknDog.vcf >>> 1KDownload >> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >> make the world literally greener in the process. > > They have had a century to do it, and they can't\ > keep up with mankind's emission rate, even with > help from the ocean. The net result is an > exponentially increasing atmospheric CO2 > concentration. Please see: > > http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/CO2-6DegreesFreedom.jpg > > The century was with trees alone so building a machine to erase our additional co2 should be that much easier than if we had no help at all. --------------050205000206020604020806 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050205000206020604020806-- From - Fri Jul 06 14:27:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:27:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740786.915265.276800@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183740786.915265.276800@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010007080500030903050809" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010007080500030903050809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 6, 9:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >> >> TalknDog.vcf >> 1KDownload > > If you can't inhale what you exhaled, then > why should I believe that breathing keeps > you alive. Now go stifle yourself. > Maybe I'm not? --------------010007080500030903050809 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010007080500030903050809-- From - Fri Jul 06 15:48:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:48:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al's carbon tax References: <0Frji.8317$K9.4228@bignews6.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090306030404080602080300" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090306030404080602080300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:41:57 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> I watched a few minutes of Al Gore on the tube last night.... He wants >> to replace the income tax system with a CARBON TAX system, Why not just >> replace the income tax with the "Fair TAX " which would be a tax on all >> goods, not just carbon. Don't all goods take some carbon units to produce? > > Yes, but countries that use sales tax as the main income have > much less sales, that is proven. Just imagine adding 20 cents > federal sales tax on top of the 6 to 10 cents already charged by the > states. > Do countries that tax income(work) as main revenue have much less work? Imagine not paying the 20% to 46% income tax and NOT paying for filling out tax forms and obeying tax laws... Imagine the IRS can't bust your door down with guns drawn, because you filled out the forms wrong. THE INCOME TAX WOULD BE DROPPED AND THE SALES TAX WOULD REPLACE IT. NOT BOTH FEDERAL INCOME AND FEDERAL SALES TAX AT THE SAME TIME. It will likely be 23 cents(and worth it), added to the State tax that's there already 6% but it would be worth it for several reasons. You won't have all the hidden taxes and rules that force you to spend your money the way the government thinks you should. Then say you pay at 28% tax bracket, on say $50,000 income, if you choose not to spend all 50,000 then your tax rate is less than the 28% on $50,000. > What better way to close most small business or drive them > underground. They all handle state sales tax already... Just put the IRS out of business. > > Oh, did I miss something? Is that the object, to > discourage small business, or make them criminals for thinking it is a > free country of free enterprise? Right now they have to fill out Tax forms for home and then for the business. under the Fair tax it would simply be the one sales tax that is exactly like the state sales tax. Which they have to do already. Fewer accountants to pay and less regulations to adhere to. It should only put IRS agents and Accountants out of the loop when it comes to tax laws and fines. --------------090306030404080602080300 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090306030404080602080300-- From - Fri Jul 06 15:59:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:59:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183744678.997901.151380@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183748699.910234.78840@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183751243.933866.148120@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183751243.933866.148120@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020801000802060809030105" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020801000802060809030105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 6, 2:04 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 6, 12:57 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 6, 10:05 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >>> wrote: >>>> "Tunderbar" wrote >>>>> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>>>>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>>>>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>>>>> TalknDog.vcf >>>>>> 1KDownload >>>>> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >>>>> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >>>>> make the world literally greener in the process. >>>> How many trees could have been planted with the $50 billion having >>>> been defenestrated for false science? >>> defenestrated? >>> PLANTING trees doesn't sequester Carbon. >>> GROWING trees does. There are a limited >>> number of places on Earth where trees grow.- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - > >> Close but no cigar. PLANTS sequester carbon. Why the specific >> obsession with TREES when there is more to the PLANT kingdom than just >> TREES. And PLANTS grow in a much wider range than TREES. > > And here is the real kicker. If we do *nothing* (ie plant no trees at > all), naturally occurring plants will continue to naturally reproduce > and naturally grow everywhere they naturally possibly can naturally > sequestering co2. So planting trees, no matter how many you plant, is > uselessly negligible to overall naturally occurring plant co2 > sequestration. > this would be Automatic Sequestration? You should patent that... It would actually be more efficient, since planting takes fuel and machines! --------------020801000802060809030105 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020801000802060809030105-- From - Fri Jul 06 16:03:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:03:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183744678.997901.151380@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030309090208000709000608" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030309090208000709000608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote: >> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote: >>> "Tunderbar" wrote >>> >>>> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>>>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>>>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>>>> TalknDog.vcf >>>>> 1KDownload >>>> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >>>> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >>>> make the world literally greener in the process. >>> How many trees could have been planted with the $50 billion having >>> been defenestrated for false science? >> defenestrated? >> >> PLANTING trees doesn't sequester Carbon. >> GROWING trees does. There are a limited >> number of places on Earth where trees grow. > > And of those, there are a limited number of places that > aren't occupied by people. > The nice thing is that it's a symbiotic relationship, we can commingle. --------------030309090208000709000608 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030309090208000709000608-- From - Fri Jul 06 20:35:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:35:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: Al Gore's goofy "science" References: <468ecd14$0$21033$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <468ecd14$0$21033$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070409050401050403010107" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070409050401050403010107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "Jen" wrote in message > news:a8795f5d4cce925d7cf53cdaad6a832a@pseudo.borked.net... >> OpinionJournal http://urltea.com/x9g >> >> Can you trust Al Gore's scientific claims in support of global warmism? >> Not if this passage from a Gore op-ed in Sunday's New York Times is any >> indication: >> >> "Consider this tale of two planets. Earth and Venus are almost exactly >> the same size, and have almost exactly the same amount of carbon. The >> difference is that most of the carbon on Earth is in the ground--having >> been deposited there by various forms of life over the last 600 million >> years--and most of the carbon on Venus is in the atmosphere. >> >> "As a result, while the average temperature on Earth is a pleasant 59 >> degrees, the average temperature on Venus is 867 degrees. True, Venus >> is closer to the Sun than we are, but the fault is not in our star; >> Venus is three times hotter on average than Mercury, which is right >> next to the Sun. It's the carbon dioxide." http://urltea.com/x9i >> >> As blogger George Reisman notes, the atmosphere on Mars is 95% carbon >> dioxide, just shy of Venus's 96%. (The Earth's atmosphere, by contrast, >> is less than 0.04% CO2.) Average temperature on Mars? Eighty-one below >> zero. http://urltea.com/x9j >> >> Meanwhile, Agence France-Presse reports: >> >> "Scientists who probed two kilometers (1.2 miles) through a Greenland >> glacier to recover the oldest plant DNA on record said Thursday the >> planet was far warmer hundreds of thousands of years ago than is >> generally believed." http://urltea.com/x9h >> >> If scientists have such difficulty predicting past weather, surely we >> should be skeptical about politicians' predictions of future weather. >> > > Al Gore is a comic strip on the same par with Al Bundy. > > > Now why did you insult aL bUNDY, he's way out in front of Gore... --------------070409050401050403010107 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070409050401050403010107-- From - Fri Jul 06 20:37:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:37:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's Carbon Credits? References: <468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <468ecc90$0$21017$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <468ecc90$0$21017$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080605030103080402020606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080605030103080402020606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "W. D. Allen" wrote in message > news:468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> Can anyone determine how the company that Al Gore buys his "carbon >> credits" from creates anything that actually results in atmospheric carbon >> reduction. After looking through the company's audit report I could not >> identify any such "product". It seems to operate more in the realm of >> options, where buyers pray they never have to actually take delivery of >> the underlying commodity. >> >> W. D. Allen >> ballensr@roadrunner.com >> >> end >> > > It's a gimmick and doesn't do anything but it appears to make the big users > neutral. > > > Pyramid scheme? --------------080605030103080402020606 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080605030103080402020606-- From - Fri Jul 06 20:49:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:49:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183744678.997901.151380@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <2azji.14077$_l6.13954@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> In-Reply-To: <2azji.14077$_l6.13954@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040304060505080101020507" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040304060505080101020507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> "Roger Coppock" wrote: >>>> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote: >>>>> "Tunderbar" wrote >>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>>>>>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>>>>>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>>>>>> TalknDog.vcf >>>>>>> 1KDownload >>>>>> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >>>>>> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >>>>>> make the world literally greener in the process. >>>>> How many trees could have been planted with the $50 billion having >>>>> been defenestrated for false science? >>>> defenestrated? >>>> >>>> PLANTING trees doesn't sequester Carbon. >>>> GROWING trees does. There are a limited >>>> number of places on Earth where trees grow. >>> And of those, there are a limited number of places that >>> aren't occupied by people. >>> >> The nice thing is that it's a symbiotic relationship, we can commingle. > > What, and live in tree houses? I don't think so. What we > need is a cull. Shoot the people and plant trees. > Liberals could just fall on their sword to save the planet they cry so loudly for... --------------040304060505080101020507 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040304060505080101020507-- From - Fri Jul 06 21:16:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:16:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: take their private jets to various Live Earth concert sites References: <1183760122.381412.306680@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183768388.578962.227650@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183768388.578962.227650@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080705010206010208070201" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080705010206010208070201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Taylor wrote: > On Jul 6, 6:45 pm, Samurai Dreams wrote: >> www.aaronsinclair.comfetchwithruffruff...@yahoo.com said:> And the world continues to suffer. Nice. >> >> More desperate whining and bitterness from another right wing turd troll who >> really doesn't give a rats ass about anybody outside of himself. > > Actually, I'm not only left-wing, but even "far" left (as my archive > of posts indicates) as some neocons call it. I recognize a feel-good > effort to ease our global conscience in this concept. Plenty of media > analysts have said the same thing: The world thinks, "Oh, another > large scale concert for the sake of good." (that does just what I > stated) ...and largely ignores it. We don't need all this hot air to > take action. WE (just) TAKE ACTION! > > It'll be fucking hilarious to see the state of mess each site is left > in when all the musicians and the fans have disband and the clean up > crew is left cleaning up a post-Woodstock ('69) on all 7 continents > defeating the original purpose. Does this make me a left-winger (which > I am!), or right-winger (ew!)? No. It makes me a realist. Cool... The idea of planet loving tree hugging brain dead fans, destroying and defiling 7 small piece of heaven on earth should be great fodder for Saturday Night Live and Lampoon...any bets whether they touch the subject? I'm sorry for your Liberal disability, but you seem to manage it. They think I'm conservative. > >> Why is it that the only time you wankers pretend to give a shit about the world >> is when you're hypocritically using it as an opportunity to take a pot shot at >> those who do? >> >> Typical. > > [the term "far left" doesn't actually exist; it's just a made-up word > for word to describe a normal liberal-thinking individual by those > neurotics who think liberals are out to get them] > --------------080705010206010208070201 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080705010206010208070201-- From - Fri Jul 06 21:30:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:30:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: World ice sheets getting larger not smaller References: <1183491412.596715.207380@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183514921.106853.225230@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000406090807020901030306" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000406090807020901030306 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The_Sage wrote: >> Reply to article by: Roger Coppock >> Date written: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:08:41 -0700 >> MsgID:<1183514921.106853.225230@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> > >> A two year old article, with five year old data. > > Data does not lie, even when it is old data. > > The Sage > > ============================================================= > http://members.cox.net/the.sage/index.htm > > "Ours is the age that is proud of machines that think and > suspicious of men who try to" -- H. Mumford Jones > ============================================================= So you guys post 8000 year old air bubble info, and complain that we don't have 30 years old data on Mars, I post "recent" only five year old data and it's past the date you'll accept? OK, I went outside and the "instantaneous" Data says it's wet, cool and damn nice out, screw Global warming. --------------000406090807020901030306 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000406090807020901030306-- From - Fri Jul 06 21:44:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:44:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: Al Gore's goofy "science" References: <1183766168.026932.113890@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183766168.026932.113890@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030509080208040003030101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030509080208040003030101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: > On Jul 6, 4:40 pm, Jen > wrote: >> OpinionJournalhttp://urltea.com/x9g >> >> Can you trust Al Gore's scientific claims in support of global warmism? >> Not if this passage from a Gore op-ed in Sunday's New York Times is any >> indication: >> >> "Consider this tale of two planets. Earth and Venus are almost exactly >> the same size, and have almost exactly the same amount of carbon. The >> difference is that most of the carbon on Earth is in the ground--having >> been deposited there by various forms of life over the last 600 million >> years--and most of the carbon on Venus is in the atmosphere. >> >> "As a result, while the average temperature on Earth is a pleasant 59 >> degrees, the average temperature on Venus is 867 degrees. True, Venus >> is closer to the Sun than we are, but the fault is not in our star; >> Venus is three times hotter on average than Mercury, which is right >> next to the Sun. It's the carbon dioxide."http://urltea.com/x9i >> >> As blogger George Reisman notes, the atmosphere on Mars is 95% carbon >> dioxide, just shy of Venus's 96%. (The Earth's atmosphere, by contrast, >> is less than 0.04% CO2.) Average temperature on Mars? Eighty-one below >> zero.http://urltea.com/x9j > > It's funny to see you rag on Al Gore when you don't understand science > well enough to see where your argument is wrong. Here is your hint, in > one word: density. Let's see if you can figure it out. > > Bloopy > You mean it's not Volume... all we need to do is change the density to fix the global warming? --------------030509080208040003030101 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030509080208040003030101-- From - Fri Jul 06 22:15:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:15:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030804020200000501080506" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030804020200000501080506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harold Burton wrote: > In article <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com>, > mike3 wrote: > >> Al Gore's $30,000 (Yes you read that right) electric bill: >> >> http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=nation_world&id=5072659 >> >> Global warming is a problem, no doubt about that. But Al Gore doesn't >> want to put his money where his mouth is and make all the >> "sacrifices" (like you actually need those extravagances!) in his >> lifestyle he tells everyone else to make. He would be a much better >> advocate if he had the integrity he needs, I think. > > > And you think this is news? OK, to leftards maybe, but to the rest of > us this is old news. > > Nothing like the hypocrisy of DemocRAT politicians. C'mon guys the man has to use his toaster more then the average bear... --------------030804020200000501080506 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030804020200000501080506-- From - Fri Jul 06 22:45:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:45:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics Subject: Re: Al Gore's goofy "science" References: <468ecd14$0$21033$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020200050808010201080106" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020200050808010201080106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rite Thinker wrote: > James kingkongg@iglou.com said: >>> If scientists have such difficulty predicting past weather, surely we >>> should be skeptical about politicians' predictions of future weather. >>> >> Al Gore is a comic strip on the same par with Al Bundy. >> >> > Yes, and it's Al Gore, not the vast majority of climate scientists who support > AGW. Just like Limbaugh is Vice President because he praises Bush. > > Conservative logic is infallible. Watch Fox News for more. > > > It'd be funny if it weren't so sad, but Fox News employees... make 80% of their political donations to Democrats. While I see your point about FOX's Democrat logic, I'm thinking we can see what logic is having problems. You made the point so much better than I ever could have, without your example of truly stupid Democrat logic... --------------020200050808010201080106 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020200050808010201080106-- From - Fri Jul 06 22:53:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:53:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics Subject: Re: Al Gore's goofy "science" References: <468ecd14$0$21033$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010107020508090500030605" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010107020508090500030605 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rite Thinker wrote: > James kingkongg@iglou.com said: >>> If scientists have such difficulty predicting past weather, surely we >>> should be skeptical about politicians' predictions of future weather. >>> >> Al Gore is a comic strip on the same par with Al Bundy. >> >> > Yes, and it's Al Gore, not the vast majority of climate scientists who support > AGW. Just like Limbaugh is Vice President because he praises Bush. > > Conservative logic is infallible. Watch Fox News for more. > > > It'd be funny if it weren't so sad, but Fox News employees... make 80% of their political donations to Democrats. While I see your point about FOX's Democrat logic, I'm thinking we can see what logic is having problems. You made the point so much better than I ever could have, without your example of truly stupid Democrat logic... --------------010107020508090500030605 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010107020508090500030605-- From - Fri Jul 06 22:54:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 22:54:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's goofy "science" References: <468ecd14$0$21033$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020709060204080705050809" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020709060204080705050809 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rite Thinker wrote: > James kingkongg@iglou.com said: >>> If scientists have such difficulty predicting past weather, surely we >>> should be skeptical about politicians' predictions of future weather. >>> >> Al Gore is a comic strip on the same par with Al Bundy. >> >> > Yes, and it's Al Gore, not the vast majority of climate scientists who support > AGW. Just like Limbaugh is Vice President because he praises Bush. > > Conservative logic is infallible. Watch Fox News for more. > > > It'd be funny if it weren't so sad, but Fox News employees... make 80% of their political donations to Democrats. While I see your point about FOX's Democrat logic, I'm thinking we can see what logic is having problems. You made the point so much better than I ever could have, without your example of truly stupid Democrat logic... --------------020709060204080705050809 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020709060204080705050809-- From - Sat Jul 07 08:44:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:44:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183774735.713076.16760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020206050202010003010100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020206050202010003010100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "SgtMinor" wrote in message > news:nMidnY6nSb8emRLbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> See how much he hates war? O, wait a minute, my mistake, he wasn't >> talking about war at all. Turns out he was explaining why he vetoed >> funding for stem cell research. Nobody loves embryos more than this guy. > > That doesn't prevent private funding. You have to remember that some people > have moral stickys with embryo research, should they be ignored? I > personally think stem cell research should be full-bore ahead but I > understand the objections to Gov funding. Invest in or donate to private > research. > > So Christians babies can't say a prayer in school because an Atheist might be offended, yet you want Christians taxes to kill babies to make Atheist happy? Looking from outside this box of hypocrisy, I'd say once again... liberal arrogance comes back to bite them. You chip away at the Constitution, using ridiculous means to achieve your goals of power and then whine, when you've been told you were shooting yourself in the foot. Just like second amendment laws, you limit the Constitution and think that the first amendment is untouchable, Wake up and smell the roses, you set the precedences. Look at the attempt to silence talk radio, You were slapped in the face, Liberals with their "open minded" view on speech(free speech = Porn)policy have more to loose than Conservatives. The domino effect. Just like Al Gores Global Warming that's attempting to attack property rights... You'll find out when the Rock stars have to actually do something. Gore's friends are buying carbon offsets today, to avoid the infringement of their rights. Wait till the other liberals can't afford their rights and only the rich can afford FREEDOM. How many of the minorities will be buying carbon offsets? --------------020206050202010003010100 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020206050202010003010100-- From - Sat Jul 07 08:50:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:50:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: True Believers References: <1183740983.290099.261400@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183744678.997901.151380@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183781782.708450.19330@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183787851.855532.194460@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183787851.855532.194460@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090702090505030803050208" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090702090505030803050208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 7, 2:16 pm, kwag7...@hotmail.com wrote: >> On Jul 6, 1:57 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 6, 10:05 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >>> wrote: >>>> "Tunderbar" wrote >>>>> On Jul 6, 11:46 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>> If you can't build a machine or machines to put the CO2 back to solve >>>>>> Global warming, then why should I believe that we built a machine or >>>>>> machines that can release enough CO2 to cause the global warming? >>>>>> TalknDog.vcf >>>>>> 1KDownload >>>>> There is a "machine" that takes the co2 out of the atmosphere. It is >>>>> called "plants". Give them a little while, they'll take care of it and >>>>> make the world literally greener in the process. >>>> How many trees could have been planted with the $50 billion having >>>> been defenestrated for false science? >>> defenestrated? >>> PLANTING trees doesn't sequester Carbon. >>> GROWING trees does. There are a limited >>> number of places on Earth where trees grow. >> Garbage. What happens when a tree dies? All of its carbon is >> instantly liberated? > > Depends on how much of it is woody biomass and where it is. > > So no, it's not instantaneous. It can take hundreds of years. If it > gets buried a lot longer than that. Some of that oil now being burned > would be fossilised trees. > > Fran > Well then, my house has tons of wood in it... All that carbon is locked up, I have already purchased my carbon offsets. --------------090702090505030803050208 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090702090505030803050208-- From - Sat Jul 07 08:57:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 08:57:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's Carbon Credits? References: <468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080200050506090009090002" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080200050506090009090002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Gundy wrote: > Martin Hogbin goatREMOVETHIS123@hogbin.org said: >> I always like to imagine that he buys them from a corrupt third world >> dictator who want to buy aircraft to beat up his neighbouring states. >> >> >> I can see two possible outcomes. Either the credit is not enforced and >> there is no real carbon offset, or the global carbon police charge into >> the poor third world country and tell the population they can no longer light >> fires to keep warm or cook with. >> > They can't work because there aint no such thing as global warming. > > You must be one of those whackos who doesn't listen to Fox News or Limbaugh. OOOoooppppsss I thought we were just starting out each post with the unwritten preface "ONCE UPON A TIME" Like Harry Potter, a world where we magically know what weather will be, has been, and have the ability to make it do what we want. --------------080200050506090009090002 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080200050506090009090002-- From - Sat Jul 07 09:03:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:03:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Buildings' central heating using water, should use a surfactant* too. References: <468f89dc_1@news.tm.net.my> In-Reply-To: <468f89dc_1@news.tm.net.my> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010706080605070602080906" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010706080605070602080906 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TE Chea wrote: > In UK I noticed that only water was used to transfer heat. > Water alone cannot transfer heat fast, w-o a *. > http://circletrack.com/techarticles/ctrp_0507_heat > If a central heating uses water, a * can speed up heat transfer, > so user can lower boiler's fire & save fuel. > Carr4 hypermarket sells a good & cheap * for cars' radiators. > > > but it pollutes the environment... --------------010706080605070602080906 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010706080605070602080906-- From - Sat Jul 07 09:11:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:11:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's Carbon Credits? References: <468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010300050604040008040706" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010300050604040008040706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "W. D. Allen" wrote in message > news:468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> Can anyone determine how the company that Al Gore buys his "carbon >> credits" from creates anything that actually results in atmospheric carbon >> reduction. After looking through the company's audit report I could not >> identify any such "product". It seems to operate more in the realm of >> options, where buyers pray they never have to actually take delivery of >> the underlying commodity. >> >> W. D. Allen >> ballensr@roadrunner.com >> >> end >> >> > > He prints them and buys them from himself. Nudge, nudge...wink, wink. > > I heard he was manufacturing them in China, in a factory where they chain children to the work bench and starve them to keep the production numbers high enough to keep the home-fires burning at the Gore Estate... --------------010300050604040008040706 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010300050604040008040706-- From - Sat Jul 07 09:26:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:26:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.impeach.bush Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183774767.278161.228250@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020201070002030409020106" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020201070002030409020106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Omar Hendry wrote: > mike3 mike4ty4@yahoo.com said: >> On Jul 6, 8:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> [quoted text muted] >>> >>>> Nothing like the hypocrisy of DemocRAT politicians. >>> C'mon guys the man has to use his toaster more then the average bear... >>> >> I doubt that's gonna use THAT much energy -- $30,000! Yikes! >> > How much electricity per square foot does that work out to? Or does a shot gun > shack with 1 light bulb and a $5.00 / month electricity bill beat the > Whitehouse with it's $80,000 plus / monthly bill? > > Is the fuel bill of a tractor trailer that drives cross country routes every > week the same as that of a redneck southern piss ant's pick-up that he uses for > trips to buy beer every day? The redneck has 200 acres of green, carbon offsets to cover his beer run, the trucking company has 2 acres of black top. > > I bet that the right wing slime would look at the tractor trailer's fuel bill > and call them hypocrites too. Only if the Tractor trailer owner wants to save the rednecks wetlands from the redneck who owns it, and then TAX the redneck with a CARBON TAX --------------020201070002030409020106 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020201070002030409020106-- From - Sat Jul 07 09:45:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:45:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats Subject: Re: Al Gore's Carbon Credits? References: <468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <95Mji.17739$3a.15002@bignews9.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020103000906060903020600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020103000906060903020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harvey Kirk wrote: > Talk-n-Dog TalknDog@talk-n-dog.com said: >> Al Gundy wrote: >>> Martin Hogbin goatREMOVETHIS123@hogbin.org said: >>>> I always like to imagine that he buys them from a corrupt third world >>>> dictator who want to buy aircraft to beat up his neighbouring states. >>>> >>>> >>>> I can see two possible outcomes. Either the credit is not enforced and >>>> there is no real carbon offset, or the global carbon police charge into >>>> the poor third world country and tell the population they can no longer light >>>> fires to keep warm or cook with. >>>> >>> They can't work because there aint no such thing as global warming. >>> >>> You must be one of those whackos who doesn't listen to Fox News or Limbaugh. >> >> OOOoooppppsss I thought we were just starting out each post with the >> unwritten preface "ONCE UPON A TIME" >> >> Like Harry Potter, a world where we magically know what weather will be, >> has been, and have the ability to make it do what we want. > > You appear to be one of those hysterical anti-global warming deniers. You must > post over 60 times a day, 7 days a week, mostly saying absolutely nothing at > all. > > > It's a sign of desperation. The belief that voluminous, empty posts somehow > make up for your inherit lack of substance. > > You should put yourself to better use and find gainful employment. There are > lots of jobs out there these days. The $100 / month that the fossil fuel > funded denials and defeatist anti-AGW religion pays you to post scatterbrained > rubbish in every thread can't buy that much cheap beer to feed your habit. > Why would I work? I raped the planet got rich and spend my time humoring myself by holding my boot heel to the throat of the poor and infirmed. Damn... forgot my meds.... back to the delusional Liberal personality, I call him the Al Gore on my shoulder. You know, it can get boring when you see the same failed Liberal ideas regurgitated over and over, I guess new, different, and fun, just gets on the nerves of stuffy - useless types. Two negatives? anti...deniers? I'm ready to become a "Believer" I want to be saved. But the grape Cool-ade needs more sugar. --------------020103000906060903020600 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020103000906060903020600-- From - Sat Jul 07 09:54:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:54:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Liberals killing the planet Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050004010808060808090205" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050004010808060808090205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Omar Hendry wrote: > mike3 mike4ty4@yahoo.com said: >> On Jul 6, 8:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> [quoted text muted] >>> >>>> Nothing like the hypocrisy of DemocRAT politicians. >>> C'mon guys the man has to use his toaster more then the average bear... >>> >> I doubt that's gonna use THAT much energy -- $30,000! Yikes! >> > How much electricity per square foot does that work out to? Or does a shot gun shack with 1 light bulb and a $5.00 / month electricity bill beat the Whitehouse with it's $80,000 plus / monthly bill? > > Is the fuel bill of a tractor trailer that drives cross country routes every week the same as that of a redneck southern piss ant's pick-up that he uses for trips to buy beer every day? The redneck has 200 acres of green, carbon offsets to cover his beer run, the trucking company has 2 acres of black top. > > I bet that the right wing slime would look at the tractor trailer's fuel bill and call them hypocrites too. Only if the Tractor trailer owner wants to save the rednecks wetlands from the redneck who owns it, and then TAX the redneck with a CARBON TAX!!!!! An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. --------------050004010808060808090205 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050004010808060808090205-- From - Sat Jul 07 10:00:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:00:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Al Gore Saves the planet: from who? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050107010408010400030801" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050107010408010400030801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "W. D. Allen" wrote in message news:468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> Can anyone determine how the company that Al Gore buys his "carbon credits" from creates anything that actually results in atmospheric carbon reduction. After looking through the company's audit report I could not identify any such "product". It seems to operate more in the realm of options, where buyers pray they never have to actually take delivery of the underlying commodity. >> >> W. D. Allen >> ballensr@roadrunner.com >> >> end >> >> > > He prints them and buys them from himself. Nudge, nudge...wink, wink. > I heard he was manufacturing them in China, in a factory where they chain children to the work bench and starve them to keep the production numbers high enough to keep the home-fires burning at the Gore Estate... An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. --------------050107010408010400030801 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050107010408010400030801-- From - Sat Jul 07 10:09:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:09:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: If Only... We Could all Be Like Al Gore Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090606000209000903060409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090606000209000903060409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harvey Kirk wrote: > Talk-n-Dog TalknDog@talk-n-dog.com said: >> Al Gundy wrote: >>> Martin Hogbin goatREMOVETHIS123@hogbin.org said: >>>> I always like to imagine that he buys them from a corrupt third world >>>> dictator who want to buy aircraft to beat up his neighbouring states. >>>> >>>> >>>> I can see two possible outcomes. Either the credit is not enforced and >>>> there is no real carbon offset, or the global carbon police charge into >>>> the poor third world country and tell the population they can no longer light >>>> fires to keep warm or cook with. >>>> >>> They can't work because there aint no such thing as global warming. >>> >>> You must be one of those whackos who doesn't listen to Fox News or Limbaugh. >> >> OOOoooppppsss I thought we were just starting out each post with the unwritten preface "ONCE UPON A TIME" >> >> Like Harry Potter, a world where we magically know what weather will be, has been, and have the ability to make it do what we want. > > You appear to be one of those hysterical anti-global warming deniers. You must post over 60 times a day, 7 days a week, mostly saying absolutely nothing at all. > > > It's a sign of desperation. The belief that voluminous, empty posts somehow make up for your inherit lack of substance. > > You should put yourself to better use and find gainful employment. There are lots of jobs out there these days. The $100 / month that the fossil fuel funded denials and defeatist anti-AGW religion pays you to post scatterbrained rubbish in every thread can't buy that much cheap beer to feed your habit. > Why would I work? I raped the planet got rich and spend my time humoring myself by holding my boot heel to the throat of the poor and infirmed. Damn... forgot my meds.... back to the delusional Liberal personality, I call him the Al Gore on my shoulder. You know, it can get boring when you see the same failed Liberal ideas regurgitated over and over, I guess new, different, and fun, just gets on the nerves of stuffy - useless types. Two negatives? anti...deniers? I'm ready to become a "Believer" I want to be saved. But the grape Cool-ade needs more sugar. An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. --------------090606000209000903060409 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090606000209000903060409-- From - Sat Jul 07 10:13:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:13:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Shrinking is here, and it's your fault References: <1183817522.396578.41060@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183817522.396578.41060@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080508030109010701030901" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080508030109010701030901 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Professor1942 wrote: > "They took part in an international project to measure the diameter of > the world that showed it is 5mm smaller than the last measurement made > five years ago." > > http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22027211-401,00.html > > We didn't listen!!! > Smaller is more compact and that creates pressure, pressure causes resistance, that causes heat.... which causes Global Warming. --------------080508030109010701030901 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080508030109010701030901-- From - Sat Jul 07 10:31:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:31:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Aren't we called carbon based life? References: <1183587183.320065.212990@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183802348.294408.155300@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183802348.294408.155300@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080702050307090304070807" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080702050307090304070807 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 6, 3:06 am, "hanson" wrote: >>> Al Gore's son arrested for pot [and drug posssession again] >> Well, that must have been a very INCONVENIENT TRUTH for >> Al Gore, the dad and green chairman of the Generation Investment >> Management Bank who had said: "It is appropriate to have an >> over-representation of factual presentations" -- .... ahahaha.... > > Why do you think the UN, almost all "governments", "think tanks", > globalists, bankers and oil-barons like Rothschild, Rockefeller and > Murdoch are promoting these carbon trading schemes? Good intentions? > Do you suppose that Al Gore Jr. was grounded from going to the "Save the Planet Concerts"? How many CARBON OFFSETS were sold to the jet setting pop stars? Aren't we called carbon based life? "It is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual presentations" = Al Gore --------------080702050307090304070807 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080702050307090304070807-- From - Sat Jul 07 10:39:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 10:39:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore's Carbon Credits? References: <468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020802070402000509010204" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020802070402000509010204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "W. D. Allen" wrote in message > news:468e9ba6$0$20614$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> Can anyone determine how the company that Al Gore buys his "carbon >> credits" from creates anything that actually results in atmospheric carbon >> reduction. After looking through the company's audit report I could not >> identify any such "product". It seems to operate more in the realm of >> options, where buyers pray they never have to actually take delivery of >> the underlying commodity. >> >> W. D. Allen >> ballensr@roadrunner.com >> >> end >> >> > > He prints them and buys them from himself. Nudge, nudge...wink, wink. > > Does he use recycled paper to print them? --------------020802070402000509010204 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020802070402000509010204-- From - Sat Jul 07 13:49:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 13:49:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Where's the BioSphere Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080907050305070706030103" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080907050305070706030103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Biosphere 2 Reopens for Climate Study http://www.b2science.org/news.php “Our goal is to create another enriching attraction in the Tucson area,” Huxman said. follow the money Al Gore --------------080907050305070706030103 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080907050305070706030103-- From - Sat Jul 07 14:58:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:58:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183347404.966044.147360@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183409711.625070.307770@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183429471.839457.287910@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <26rr831fin09qfgsr9oh159erjgb2mq7bo@4ax.com> <-Z6dnYOM6KkKIhLbnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@dls.net> In-Reply-To: <-Z6dnYOM6KkKIhLbnZ2dnUVZ_uninZ2d@dls.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090200060202080405040002" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090200060202080405040002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul F. Dietz wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: > >> Reading comprehension problems? The discussion is about >> planetary temperatures and radiation losses to space. > > No, I read this statement of yours: > > A dense atmosphere has the effect of faster rotation of the planet > > You're saying a dense atmosphere makes the planet rotate faster. > If that's not what you meant, restate in a non-gibberish format. > > Paul I'm learning to translate Gibberish, it's the official language of the Democrat Party... So far I've decoded a couple important words and phrase.... "hysterical anti-global warming deniers." = True Believer "rightards" = Anyone smarter than they... which is almost everyone I may add some as time goes by --------------090200060202080405040002 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090200060202080405040002-- From - Sat Jul 07 15:44:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:44:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics,alt.politics.liberal,alt.politics.usa Subject: Re: Gore becoming obscenely wealthy while "saving the planet" References: <1183824836.028927.292840@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183832981.459462.272230@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183832981.459462.272230@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000504010703080901010709" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000504010703080901010709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lorad474@cs.com wrote: > On Jul 7, 9:13 am, Shadowland wrote: >> In one example, Mother Theresa lived a life of poverty and died >> penniless...spending her whole adult life helping the poor of >> Calcutta. > > Yeah right... just what I need.. > Having a neocon preach to me about Mother Theresa... > > About Algore.. > I'd rather have someone become obscenely rich *saving* the planet.. > Rather than having someone becoming obscenely rich while *screwing* > the planet. > > Wouldn't you too? > > In life you'll find people often distract you with their overt story and *screw* you out of money while your distracted. --------------000504010703080901010709 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000504010703080901010709-- From - Sat Jul 07 15:54:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 15:54:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.democrats Subject: Re: N.J. Enacts Anti-Global Warming Law References: <1183822372.106636.77590@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <468fb996$0$496$815e3792@news.qwest.net> In-Reply-To: <468fb996$0$496$815e3792@news.qwest.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020904010501050706070805" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020904010501050706070805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Bedo wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> N.J. Enacts Anti-Global Warming Law >> Becomes Third State In The Nation To Enact Such A Measure >> >> (AP) New Jersey became the third state in the nation to enact a >> comprehensive greenhouse gas reduction law Friday, requiring the >> Garden State to significantly cut emissions of global-warming gases. > > Great! When are they closing the turnpike? I'd like to see them enforce that one... Proving someone warmed the Globe? They simply want another law on the books so they can try to run someone broke, or extort something in exchange for dropping charges. --------------020904010501050706070805 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020904010501050706070805-- From - Sat Jul 07 16:46:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:46:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics,alt.politics.liberal,alt.politics.usa Subject: Re: Gore becoming obscenely wealthy while "saving the planet" References: <1183824836.028927.292840@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183832981.459462.272230@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183836987.542537.4500@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183836987.542537.4500@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090903030207030207090206" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090903030207030207090206 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jetgraphics wrote: > On Jul 7, 2:29 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote: >> On Jul 7, 9:13 am, Shadowland wrote: >> >>> In one example, Mother Theresa lived a life of poverty and died >>> penniless...spending her whole adult life helping the poor of >>> Calcutta. >> Yeah right... just what I need.. >> Having a neocon preach to me about Mother Theresa... >> >> About Algore.. >> I'd rather have someone become obscenely rich *saving* the planet.. >> Rather than having someone becoming obscenely rich while *screwing* >> the planet. >> >> Wouldn't you too? > This has some good points>>>>> Al Gore is living in OZ, he's the wizard, "don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain". He's pulling strings and giving out courage and brains and hearts, with no idea of where he is or how to get home. > "Saving" the planet is not what AllaGoree is doing. Most of the > political solutions being promoted are nothing more than wealth > redistribution, not ecologically sound thickening of the life bearing > surface of the planet. > > Plus, the "science" of CO2 "Greenhouse" effect is pretty much > debunked. > > Basically, the fluctuations in average temperature track with the > variations in the solar input, interacting with gamma radiation, > influencing cloud cover and proportionally track it, not CO2 levels. > Average temperature, I'm starting to go with the people here that say it's a useless number. > The rise in global CO2 is more from the outgassing from the ocean > (like bubbles from hot soda pop) than the "carbon output" of > technological humanity. > In fact, the graphics trotted out by AllaGoree show that the CO2 rise > follows the temperature rise, not preceding it, thus it can't be the > cause. > > The biggest faux pas is that the #1 greenhouse gas that affects > climate is water vapor. > But since there's no political leverage in regulating steam, the gang > of thieves have everyone focused on the "wrong" item. > Power + money= Control > Reminds me of the "dreaded" Ozone hole from CFCs. No one questioned > the big discrepancy. If CFCs were responsible for the ozone hole, then > how did the southern pole have the larger hole, when the major CFC > emissions were in the northern hemisphere, where the O3 hole was > smaller? > > Of course, it was only a coincidence that the patent ran out on CFCs, > so the chemical companies couldn't profit from the proliferation of > royalty free CFC plants in the third world. Thanks to the ozone scare, > a whole host of new, patented, and very expensive alternatives are > mandated. (And let's not forget the prodigious creation of low level > Ozone in the form of SMOG... maybe we should have increased the output > of CFCs to destroy low level ozone!) > There's a problem here.... > And one last item - stop blaming "right" and "left" wings for the > problems facing humanity. > Neither wing has the solution, because the problem is not partisan. Ii's a matter of dumb versus dumber > It's a matter of good versus evil. > Unfortunately, most people have been indoctrinated to think in evil > terms. Even in mass media, the "good guys" do bad things, thus making > any "win" a win for the wrong team. Using evil to defeat evil just > makes the winner evil. > > The simplest sound bite is: > "Good" is harmless support of one's right to life, liberty and > property. What about the Good hearted dumb ones that, while trying to do good, end up doing harm? The easily duped? The I don't care ones. > "Bad" is harmful support of one's right to life, liberty and property. > > Based on the simple logic, it doesn't matter if one is right, left, > conservative, liberal, righteous, or infidel. The only thing that STOP>> it matters to the point that in handling people(as government and business has found)you have to work with groups not individuals. As groups go, which do the most harm, that's probably 99% opinion. Who promotes living off the suffering of others(welfare,free medical,tax credits....)? Which group promotes the theft of dignity and self worth, which encourages you to grovel at the governments hand out windows for things you have - and haven't earned. > matters is whether one is a harmless productive person, or a harmful > predator / parasite, living off the suffering of others. > Are you actively producing usable goods and services or are you a > consumer? > Do the math. > > (By that logic, one of the worst ecological disasters is Paris Hilton, > a helpless parasite extraordinaire.) > Paris has found a niche and exploited it, better than some who sit and watch Jerry Springer, and Paris Hilton on the boob tube and go to the mailbox to collect a check that was money taken from working Americans. --------------090903030207030207090206 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090903030207030207090206-- From - Sat Jul 07 16:57:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:57:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183774735.713076.16760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080105020206040206070907" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080105020206040206070907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> So Christians babies can't say a prayer in school because an Atheist >> might be offended, yet you want Christians taxes to kill babies to >> make Atheist happy? > > Life's a bitch, ain't it? Childless people pay school taxes, pacifists > see their money used to kill people all over the world, and atheists > have to accept the fact that churches and their owners pay no taxes. How > would you run government? > Smarter --------------080105020206040206070907 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080105020206040206070907-- From - Sat Jul 07 17:40:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:40:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Al Gore kills concerts and wrights Epitaphs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030405020006010808090502" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030405020006010808090502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The State of NJ has passed laws against Global warming? Did they ban huge over rated concerts promoted by money grubbing Political/rock stars? I'm thinking these "rock stars" will rue the day that they became involved with global warming. Soon we'll have to put a stop to their cash cow and end the big polluting entertainment events. Wouldn't the Government in 1969 loved to be able to stop Woodstock? Given the chance to use Global Warming laws to kill the future woodstocks will be a a big temptation. If the Democrats pass laws to "REGULATE" carbon(CO2) and carbon offsets, the Republicans will us it to limit size or maybe prevent large concerts. Imagine BANDS no longer get to tour and collect the cash from thousands of fans. Shot themselves in the foot again. This is like the Talk radio issue all over, with the (FCC Fairness Doctrine) the rule they use to stifle talk shows. Look out, here it comes... --------------030405020006010808090502 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030405020006010808090502-- From - Sat Jul 07 19:10:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:10:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! :Bush is a mealy mouthed Democrat References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183774735.713076.16760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030708090208020809090203" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030708090208020809090203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SgtMinor wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> >>>> So Christians babies can't say a prayer in school because an Atheist >>>> might be offended, yet you want Christians taxes to kill babies to >>>> make Atheist happy? >>> >>> >>> Life's a bitch, ain't it? Childless people pay school taxes, >>> pacifists see their money used to kill people all over the world, and >>> atheists have to accept the fact that churches and their owners pay >>> no taxes. How would you run government? >>> >> Smarter > > A truly lame response from someone who has this to say about his > political opponents: "...then whine, when you've been told you were > shooting yourself in the foot." To the point and I didn't whine. I'd do it different, Will I have total control or do I get to work with the morons in congress? Hypotheticals' are not very good ways to get a point across but they do work. I'd allow illegal immigrants to sue employers for wage violations and injury..., can't be any worse than allowing judges to sue dry cleaners over pants. Then I'd allow law enforcement to confiscate illegal immigrants illegally earned money and property,boats,cars.. Without employers - the illegals would have no reason to come here, without houses and cars and cash they'd have no reason to stay... they'll go home. We don't have to spend millions on a fence and we don't have to deport 12 million of them. They'll leave the way they came, of their own free will. Childless couples wouldn't pay tax for school, schools would be private like college is. Kids would be able to say prayers in school and private industry would be allowed to use all the fetus parts that they can get without killing humans. Pacifist can leave(one way tickets), or stay and help defend the country via service and taxes. The Founding Documents say it's a citizens responsibility to engage in the affairs of the country ,be they juries or voting or political service.... and on and on and on ... But even if I list it all, I'm not trying to change anyones mind, just find out if anyone has a better idea or can punch a hole in anything I post. I sometimes toss ideas out that no one has been considering, so as to see if people stop and rethink why they're sure they're right, or to confirm an idea as plausible. Liberals simply do stupid things, without thinking through the problems, it's like they never heard of chess and thinking three moves ahead. They feel superior, their way is good for what they want but use the same reasoning that doesn't benefit them and that's suddenly not OK. Bush has become a Democrat... --------------030708090208020809090203 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030708090208020809090203-- From - Sun Jul 08 03:25:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:25:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! :Bush is a mealy mouthed Democrat References: <1183774735.713076.16760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030306060704040508050103" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030306060704040508050103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit leroyblue@pillinor.net wrote: > On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:10:49 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> SgtMinor wrote: >>> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> >>>>>> So Christians babies can't say a prayer in school because an Atheist >>>>>> might be offended, yet you want Christians taxes to kill babies to >>>>>> make Atheist happy? >>>>> >>>>> Life's a bitch, ain't it? Childless people pay school taxes, >>>>> pacifists see their money used to kill people all over the world, and >>>>> atheists have to accept the fact that churches and their owners pay >>>>> no taxes. How would you run government? >>>>> >>>> Smarter >>> A truly lame response from someone who has this to say about his >>> political opponents: "...then whine, when you've been told you were >>> shooting yourself in the foot." >> >> To the point and I didn't whine. >> >> I'd do it different, Will I have total control or do I get to work with >> the morons in congress? Hypotheticals' are not very good ways to get a >> point across but they do work. >> >> I'd allow illegal immigrants to sue employers for wage violations and >> injury..., can't be any worse than allowing judges to sue dry cleaners >> over pants. >> Then I'd allow law enforcement to confiscate illegal immigrants >> illegally earned money and property,boats,cars.. >> >> Without employers - the illegals would have no reason to come here, >> without houses and cars and cash they'd have no reason to stay... >> they'll go home. >> >> >> We don't have to spend millions on a fence and we don't have to deport >> 12 million of them. They'll leave the way they came, of their own free will. >> >> Childless couples wouldn't pay tax for school, schools would be private >> like college is. >> >> Kids would be able to say prayers in school and private industry would >> be allowed to use all the fetus parts that they can get without killing >> humans. >> >> Pacifist can leave(one way tickets), or stay and help defend the country >> via service and taxes. The Founding Documents say it's a citizens >> responsibility to engage in the affairs of the country ,be they juries >> or voting or political service.... >> >> and on and on and on ... > > > Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN > > "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes > here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, > he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is > an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or > birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming > in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be > no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but > something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but > one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which > symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as > it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We > have room for but one language here, and that is the English > language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a > loyalty to the American people." > > Theodore Roosevelt 1907 > My suggestion gives them the chance to be treated equal. They can be arrested and all their belongings confiscated... just as the Feds will do to me for earning money illegally, like making book, loaning money like a bank, gambling, or selling prescriptions without the proper papers. While Roosevelt might have been a nice guy, he also wouldn't likely allow an invasion force of more than twelve million to illegally invade on his watch. Bush on the other hand is turning into a looser, that's not easy to say - as I had hoped he was a step above the alternatives, he isn't fulfilling my hopes. > > Comments: Theodore Roosevelt indeed wrote these words, but not in 1907 > while he was still President of the United States. The passages were > culled from a letter he wrote to the president of the American Defense > Society on January 3, 1919, three days before Roosevelt died. > > "Americanization" was a favorite theme of Roosevelt's during his later > years, when he railed repeatedly against "hyphenated Americans" and > the prospect of a nation "brought to ruins" by a "tangle of squabbling > nationalities." > Precisely, Illegals can leave on their own free will and then immigrate back legally and become "Americans." > He advocated the compulsory learning of English by every naturalized > citizen. "Every immigrant who comes here should be required within > five years to learn English or to leave the country," he said in a > statement to the Kansas City Star in 1918. "English should be the only > language taught or used in the public schools." > I'm not big on requiring a time limit to learn English or forcing anyone to learn it, after all we are a free people, but it would probably be the only way to pass a test - given in English - > He also insisted, on more than one occasion, that America has no room > for what he called "fifty-fifty allegiance." In a speech made in 1917 > he said, "It is our boast that we admit the immigrant to full > fellowship and equality with the native-born. In return we demand that > he shall share our undivided allegiance to the one flag which floats > over all of us." > I'm not sure how you could accomplish forcing allegiance. *** > > > Sounds like a damn good idea to me. > > Yep, I'll go with it. And the bonus is, when the UN starts to TAX carbon use, we won't be paying the tax for 12 million foreigners. --------------030306060704040508050103 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030306060704040508050103-- From - Sun Jul 08 03:59:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 03:59:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore is a HYPOCRITE! :Bush is a mealy mouthed Democrat References: <1183774214.877272.217260@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183774735.713076.16760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060108080705070708000101" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060108080705070708000101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SgtMinor wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> SgtMinor wrote: >> >>> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>>> So Christians babies can't say a prayer in school because an >>>>>> Atheist might be offended, yet you want Christians taxes to kill >>>>>> babies to make Atheist happy? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Life's a bitch, ain't it? Childless people pay school taxes, >>>>> pacifists see their money used to kill people all over the world, >>>>> and atheists have to accept the fact that churches and their owners >>>>> pay no taxes. How would you run government? >>>>> >>>> Smarter >>> >>> >>> A truly lame response from someone who has this to say about his >>> political opponents: "...then whine, when you've been told you were >>> shooting yourself in the foot." >> >> >> >> To the point and I didn't whine. >> >> I'd do it different, Will I have total control or do I get to work >> with the morons in congress? Hypotheticals' are not very good ways to >> get a point across but they do work. >> >> I'd allow illegal immigrants to sue employers for wage violations and >> injury..., can't be any worse than allowing judges to sue dry cleaners >> over pants. >> Then I'd allow law enforcement to confiscate illegal immigrants >> illegally earned money and property,boats,cars.. >> >> Without employers - the illegals would have no reason to come here, >> without houses and cars and cash they'd have no reason to stay... >> they'll go home. >> >> >> We don't have to spend millions on a fence and we don't have to deport >> 12 million of them. They'll leave the way they came, of their own free >> will. >> >> Childless couples wouldn't pay tax for school, schools would be >> private like college is. >> >> Kids would be able to say prayers in school and private industry would >> be allowed to use all the fetus parts that they can get without >> killing humans. >> >> Pacifist can leave(one way tickets), or stay and help defend the >> country via service and taxes. The Founding Documents say it's a >> citizens responsibility to engage in the affairs of the country ,be >> they juries or voting or political service.... >> >> and on and on and on ... >> >> >> >> But even if I list it all, I'm not trying to change anyones mind, just >> find out if anyone has a better idea or can punch a hole in anything I >> post. I sometimes toss ideas out that no one has been considering, so >> as to see if people stop and rethink why they're sure they're right, >> or to confirm an idea as plausible. >> >> >> Liberals simply do stupid things, without thinking through the >> problems, it's like they never heard of chess and thinking three moves >> ahead. They feel superior, their way is good for what they want but >> use the same reasoning that doesn't benefit them and that's suddenly >> not OK. >> >> >> Bush has become a Democrat... >> >> > > You may want to take a closer look at the role corporations are playing > in what we all think is a downward slide for this country. Keep in mind > that corporations have rights as citizens but owe allegiance only to > profits. They have none of the responsibilities that you want citizens > to assume. > And changing the tax system from tariffs to income tax and then NAFTA made it so they can go anywhere and still abuse our markets. This allows them to care even less as to how they effect our country, we are no longer of any consequence to their multinational existence. They have taken the Al-Qaeda business model, move to the most hospitable country of the moment. > Many corporations work in the background, unseen to the average person. > Bankers, financial institutions, brokers, government contractors. They > are all privately owned on a for-profit no-loyalty basis. They > fabricate the pieces-of-paper money we use. They own our radio > stations, television stations, newspapers, magazines, billboards, and > they're nice enough to handle those burdensome elections for us. They > smother us with propaganda but tell us we are free to think what we want > and vote for whoever our party has selected for us. You know, the best > candidate. > Corporations can't vote, and have no morality. They never pay a death tax. > You stated: "Without employers - the illegals would have no reason to > come here..." and on the whole you are right. Here, corporations > benefit in a big way because, even if they don't hire undocumented > people themselves, the theory is that the mere presence of this cheap > labor in the market drives down wages for everyone. And now, middle > class Republicans, who voted loyally along party lines, are beginning to > see that their party got stolen from them some time ago and is now run > by a Corporate cabal. They see that the party's masters don't really > want to close the border and protect the middle classes from the loss of > jobs, and from people from a foreign culture that they don't know, or > understand. And the masters don't care about the price of gas, and > food, and utilities, and.... They don't care. > Democrats are no better. Clinton passed NAFTA which guaranteed Americans would slide down to Mexican Wages and not bring Mexicans up to ours > Corporate crime takes much more money out of Americans' pockets than all > forms of robbery, theft, and street crime combined. And the fat cat > military-industrial complex is now lining its pockets with Uncle Sam's > IOUs for his Iraq venture. I'll bet you those cats will know where to > find your kids and grandkids when the bill comes due. > I won't piss and moan too much if government is doing what it's set up to do(keep my family safe from invaders)Be it Al Qaeda or Illegals. But when they will get out of the Constitution assigned areas and worry about my toilet flushing 3gal and ignore 12 million illegals or give me tickets for seat belts and let Al Qaeda blow up the garage in the world trade, and virtually ignore that too. It starts to annoy me. --------------060108080705070708000101 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060108080705070708000101-- From - Sun Jul 08 12:54:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:54:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,talk.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How much impact on the environment do Hybrid cars really have? References: <1183890500.425826.40590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183907587.886273.28500@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183907587.886273.28500@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080503070903090804050601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080503070903090804050601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Grendel wrote: > On Jul 8, 5:28 am, Doc wrote: Good stuff, funny too, green wienies never look over the horizon... they're reacting not planning. Now I'm wondering, would more particulates in the air, block the suns heat or absorb it? If we have a problem with heat, blocking the sun could help... Burn dirty fuels and save the planet. Maybe we've upset natures balance by removing the the dirt in dirty energy sources? The correct balance of Co2 and particulates needs to be reevaluated. > As for a pure electrical vehicle. If your power supply to recharge > the battary is supplied by Solar, Wind, Water or Nuclear, you're doing > great. If, on the other hand, it is natural gass or coal fired, you > are creating more particulates than if you were to drive a SUV with a > V-8. --------------080503070903090804050601 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080503070903090804050601-- From - Sun Jul 08 12:59:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:59:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: LIVE EARTH + eating meat is like making a car-race to reduce number of victims in traffic References: <1183903085.109976.96770@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080401020502000400040108" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080401020502000400040108 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carl Palmer wrote: > irmi irmgard03@gmail.com said: >> ... or collective cigarette smoking on an event against lung cancer. >> As FAO, Worldwatch Institute or various universities worldwide >> emphasize, meat-production (livestock) is the biggest among the >> primary sources of climate-change (see links at >> http://www.futurefood.org/globalbenefits/environment_en.php). >> >> But as paradoxical it seems, this is what happened yesterday at Live >> Earth: People eating meat and talking about saving the world-climate. >> Would have been great to make such a huge festival authentic and >> vegetarian, this would have been a courageous step!! >> > > I thought that it was really cool when Fox News asked their 2 million viewers > to waste as much energy as possible this weekend to fight back against the Bush > hating Luddites who were being annoying. > > Glenn Beck was handing out incandescent light bulbs free of charge in Times > Square! > > Another victory for common sense! > > Fight stupidity with stupidity. --------------080401020502000400040108 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080401020502000400040108-- From - Sun Jul 08 13:41:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:41:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,talk.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How much impact on the environment do Hybrid cars really have? References: <1183890500.425826.40590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060508060308000606020409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060508060308000606020409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J-Roc wrote: > Doc docsavage20@yahoo.com said: >> Okay, so they use less gas - but what about manufacturing of all the >> components - they still incorporate steel and I assume other metals, >> plastic, glass, petroleum products, etc. plus the components for the >> electrical portion. >> >> So ultimately, what difference in overall impact on "the environment" >> does driving a hybrid car really make? >> >> > I get to use the battery power, connected to a set of uncomfortable claws, to > torture rednecks like the Hillbillies in the Dodge Hemi TV ads? > > That will do. They're small enough - so at 100mph, they squash like a bug on a windshield... They'll cut the population by a few, but then, they were the ones saving the environment so it might all be a wash. The acid spills and heavy metals might make for a different tail, to wag the dog for a while? Hybrids allow us to *think* we're saving the environment so we can continue to be wasteful? Hybrids say, wussy man, so testosterone won't be in excess to pollute the environment, women won't gush femininity around them, fewer teen pregnancies and that will help cut population and that will save the environment. We'll need less energy. --------------060508060308000606020409 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060508060308000606020409-- From - Sun Jul 08 13:44:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 13:44:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.chem Subject: Re: Al Gore's son arrested for pot References: <1183587183.320065.212990@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183893734.782686.103790@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183893734.782686.103790@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000602030906020708070803" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000602030906020708070803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jose Enrique wrote: > On Jul 4, 6:13 pm, d...@hotmail.com wrote: >> It's nice to see Al Gore was driving a Prius in order to minimize his >> carbon footprint. Who would have known a Prius could clock 160 >> kilometres an hour? >> >> http://www.thestar.com/News/article/232402 >> >> Al Gore's son arrested for pot >> Jul 04, 2007 01:52 PM >> Associated Press >> >> LAGUNA NIGUEL, Calif. - Al Gore's son was pulled over for speeding on >> a California freeway early today and arrested on suspicion of illegal >> possession of marijuana and prescription drugs, authorities said. >> >> Al Gore III, 24, was driving a blue Toyota Prius about 160 kilometres >> an hour on the San Diego Freeway when he was pulled over by sheriff's >> deputies who said they smelled marijuana, said Sheriff's Department >> spokesman Jim Amormino. >> >> The deputies searched the car and found less than an ounce (28 grams) >> of marijuana along with Xanax, Valium, Vicodin and Adderall, which is >> used for attention deficit disorder, Amormino said. >> >> "He does not have a prescription for any of those drugs," Amormino >> said. >> >> Gore was being held in the men's central jail in Santa Ana on $20,000 >> bail. >> >> Kalee Kreider, a spokeswoman for his parents, did not immediately >> return phone messages. > > Can someone tell me what is All Gore son doing driving a foreign car? > There is no hope. I am going to cry. > Don't cry... it releases more Co2 than calmly whimpering. --------------000602030906020708070803 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000602030906020708070803-- From - Sun Jul 08 16:05:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:05:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Mars Storms and Heatwaves References: <1183843357.397868.76600@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183867373.838206.107150@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1183881811.250680.193090@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183885075.816114.24480@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1183917974.160187.208690@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183917974.160187.208690@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------090908060704040807080805" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090908060704040807080805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >> The Mars Rovers were recording temperatures at the time, but I see no >> evidence of any similar variation in the temperature records they >> took. > > That is a lie. Those graphs are "interpreted" temperatures from the > solar arrays and Hazcam. Are the precisions of those > interpretations within the few degrees change claimed here on Earth? > Also, you're comparing apples to oranges since there is obviously not > much heat retention from any greenhouse effect. The temperatures > swing wildly from day to night. And finally, the record is not even > two years long, so you can't even make a complete one year > observation. > > A lack of data on Mars, does NOT make greenhouse *theory* any more valid. It only leaves questions we aren't yet smart enough to ask. --------------090908060704040807080805 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------090908060704040807080805-- From - Sun Jul 08 16:10:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:10:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,talk.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How much impact on the environment do Hybrid cars really have? References: <1183890500.425826.40590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183907587.886273.28500@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <4691129A.85BB59C9@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4691129A.85BB59C9@hotmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020203070703020208000506" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020203070703020208000506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Grendel wrote: > >> As for a pure electrical vehicle. If your power supply to recharge >> the battary is supplied by Solar, Wind, Water or Nuclear, you're doing >> great. If, on the other hand, it is natural gass or coal fired, you >> are creating more particulates than if you were to drive a SUV with a >> V-8. > > Also complete and utter garbage. > > Natural gas fired electricity generation makes almost no particulates. That much > should be obvious. > > You're very, very badly informed. > > Graham > unless they burn it with oil, drugs and medical waste... like they used to. --------------020203070703020208000506 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020203070703020208000506-- From - Sun Jul 08 16:38:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:38:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Do you know What You Don't Know? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------060605010103010305080005" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060605010103010305080005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If what you know, isn't the answer... it has to be something you don't know. Fairly simple. How many licks to the center of a tootsy-pop? The problem with the global warming "scientists" is that they're afraid to admit what they don't know.... If they don't have an answer, then they fall back on consensus. Otherwise known as a (collective guess) You are safe in using consensus alone when it is clear you mean consensus of opinion, and most writers in fact do so. --------------060605010103010305080005 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------060605010103010305080005-- From - Sun Jul 08 18:26:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:26:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming,soc.men Subject: Re: One Day You Will All Speak Spanish References: <7Jcki.45626$5j1.25081@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <7Jcki.45626$5j1.25081@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020802020102060803080409" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020802020102060803080409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Doug wrote: Since I'm not married and probably a lot more mean and nasty a psycho than Pancho... I'll tell you about his mother.... She's so busy selling it that she has a drive up window. She wears pants with Velcro. She runs a two for one sale on Tuesday > Everyone has already HAD your mama. > > Your mama is so popular she's called the in-out box. > > But Ramon already knows all this. > > "Fernando Rodriguez" wrote in message > news:MPG.20fb1a9a8dc8c99c989843@news.albasani.net... >> And I will be poking your wife and daughters! >> >> Stupid fucking gringos. >> > > --------------020802020102060803080409 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020802020102060803080409-- From - Sun Jul 08 18:55:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:55:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Any Virgins out there? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050005030106070004020205" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050005030106070004020205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Time to sacrifice a virgin to the global warming God... Everyone is whipped up into a frenzy, the Gods are angry, we just finished the dancing and musical festival to Honor the Global Warming Deity. The World is said to still be warming, despite the cosmic good feeling that were exuded at the sacred sites where Believers came together to sooth their divined being with hymns and chanting. Now bring out the big guns, sacrifice a virgin...sacrifice....sacrifice... --------------050005030106070004020205 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050005030106070004020205-- From - Sun Jul 08 19:08:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:08:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: A New Military -Global Warming Bomb Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040802000300080207000006" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040802000300080207000006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Global warming is a new weapon created by Bush to cause the middle east to become a desert. Finally someone with a plan. It's obvious and the proof is that Liberals were protesting by holding concerts to protest the new Military weapon. --------------040802000300080207000006 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040802000300080207000006-- From - Sun Jul 08 20:35:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 20:35:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: World ice sheets getting larger not smaller References: <1183491412.596715.207380@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183514921.106853.225230@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183523277.163524.231040@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183556394.431092.274030@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183581134.197729.48090@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1183581877.238047.284160@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1183588365.939006.158540@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183646485.037844.243190@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183773715.431263.208070@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183852084.034904.106710@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183938248.740192.139920@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183938248.740192.139920@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070908090601030502090509" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070908090601030502090509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Spartakus wrote: > > I didn't cite a study, fuckwit. I cited a summary of the study that > ***Dunderhead*** cited. Another poster cited a BBC news article about > the study that ***Dunderhead*** cited. I provided excerpts from that > BBC article. The summary I cited and the article the other poster > cited both affirm that the Zwally study states there is a net loss of > ice to the ocean from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. > >>>>> "In one of the most comprehensive studies of its >>>>> type, satellite data was used to plot changes >>>>> in the height of the ice sheets between 1992 >>>>> and 2002. Writing in the Journal of Glaciology, >>>>> a US team says that 20 billion tonnes of water >>>>> are added to oceans each year. The BBC did a study of the BBC... They found that they're So Liberal that even the BBC doesn't believe the BBC. Liberals can't believe other Liberals so... --------------070908090601030502090509 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070908090601030502090509-- From - Sun Jul 08 21:37:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 21:37:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: The Co2 Hybrid car CONSPIRACY Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010805070803010309030905" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010805070803010309030905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hybrids say, wussy man, so testosterone won't be in excess to pollute the environment, women won't gush femininity around HYBRIDS. That will mean fewer teen pregnancies and that will help cut population and that will save the environment. We'll need less energy. They're small enough - so at only 100mph, they'll squash like a bug on a windshield... That'll cut the population by a few drugged up speeders, but then, they were the ones saving the environment weren't they; so it might all be a wash. The acid spills and heavy metals might make for a different tail, to wag the dog for a while? Does HAZMAT use many Carbon offsets when they clean-up a battery with heavy metals...? Hybrids allow you to *think* you're saving the environment so you'll continue to be wasteful? Use half the gas and then drive twice as much.... problem is that when you factor in all the extra tires, and the replacement of that hybrid twice as often, it kills most of the gains. DARWIN WOULD BE IMPRESSED *WE ARE IGNORANT ENOUGH TO BE SUBJECT TO NATURE* --------------010805070803010309030905 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010805070803010309030905-- From - Mon Jul 09 09:35:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:35:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.physics Subject: Re: An alternative theory as to global climate changes References: <1183984120.675461.195720@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183984546.174933.158790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183984546.174933.158790@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040904040503010205040507" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040904040503010205040507 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit schoenfeld.one@gmail.com wrote: > On Jul 9, 10:28 pm, Morpheal wrote: > [...] > > Global warming is being caused by the Sun. That's why Mars is melting, > that's why some Jupiter moons are melting. > > The Sun has been acting weird lately. > Do you suppose the "leaders" would tell you if the sun was eratic and they had no concept of what or how they could predict or effect it? even if it is the sun, it's CO2... With CO2 there would be a "fix" *hope* even if it is false hope, imagine the chaos and panic if the sun were getting hotter, can you fix it? Killing and robbing and mayhem, that's what that story would bring, so forget ever seeing that one in the news. "ELITES AND LEADERS HANDBOOK ON SURVIVING" First get the guns, then limit transportation.... --------------040904040503010205040507 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040904040503010205040507-- From - Mon Jul 09 09:50:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:50:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment Subject: Re: #Heat wave leads to rash of wildfires References: <1183983137.432854.69700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183983137.432854.69700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070904070403020003010004" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070904070403020003010004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fernbach1948@yahoo.com wrote: > Signs of a Warming World? > > Toasty, toasty, toasty California & Nevada -- Where homes and forests > are toast > > ======================================================================== > > On Jul 7, 7:19 pm, 3599 Dead wrote: >> http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Wildfires.html >> >> Heat Wave Fuels WesternWildfires >> >> * >> E-Mail >> * Print >> * Save >> >> Article Tools Sponsored By >> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS >> Published: July 7, 2007 >> >> Filed at 7:01 p.m. ET >> >> RENO, Nev. (AP) --Wildfiresburned mobile homes, closed highways and >> forced evacuations from a popular wilderness park Saturday as >> firefighters worked through scorching heat to contain blazes >> throughout the West. No injuries were reported. >> >> Lightning sparked about a dozen fires that had charred about 55 square >> miles in remote northern Nevada, where temperatures in Elko were >> expected to reach 98 degrees on Saturday. >> >> The two biggest fires broke out Friday in Elko County. One had burned >> 36 square miles, or 23,000 acres, along the Idaho border, said Mike >> Brown, a spokesman for the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. It was 10 >> percent contained Saturday, officials said. >> >> The other fire had blackened 11 square miles, or 7,000 acres, about >> five miles southwest of Carlin. It burned two mobile homes and several >> smaller structures, and shut down a section of Interstate 80. >> >> ''Both fires burned actively last night and showed extreme fire >> behavior,'' said Sam Hicks, fire management officer for the Nevada >> Division of Forestry. >> >> The interstate was closed for six hours overnight as the blaze neared >> the highway, fire information officer Tracie Winfrey said. On Saturday >> morning, the fire was 40 percent contained. >> >> In California, threewildfiresignited by lightning spread quickly >> Saturday morning through a wilderness park, officials said. >> >> More than 400 firefighters were battling the blaze, which has consumed >> 17,000 acres of the 2 million-acre Inyo National Forest, forest >> spokeswoman Nancy Upham said Saturday. Firefighters were searching for >> and evacuating an unknown number of day hikers and overnight >> backpackers. >> >> A section of Highway 395, which runs along the eastern spine of the >> Sierra Nevada mountain range, was closed, and many smaller roads >> leading from the highway into the mountains were also closed. >> Campgrounds and a lodge had been evacuated, Upham said. >> >> In Southern California, a wildfire burned into a wilderness area of >> Los Padres National Forest, threatening some campgrounds and showing >> no sign of slowing down as it moved through tinder-dry chaparral in >> Santa Barbara County. The fire was heading east and threatened some >> campgrounds and the historic Manzana schoolhouse, a century-old wooden >> building, fire spokesman Andy Yamamoto said. >> >> The fire was burning in a steep, remote area in brush and oak >> woodlands that had not seen flames for about 40 years, Yamamoto said. >> >> Dozens of firefighters battled a blaze near Rulison, Colo., that had >> destroyed a house and two other buildings. And a fire in central Utah >> forced the evacuation of a power plant and threatened several homes, >> railroad lines and bridges. It was triggered Friday by lightning. >> >> The fires in the West have been fueled by an oppressive heat wave that >> has been felt throughout the region for days, but that has now eased a >> bit in places. Still, forecasters predicted little relief in the days >> ahead for a region where many cities have baked in triple-digit >> temperatures. >> >> Las Vegas had been cooling since Wednesday, when it tied a record with >> a high of 116. Slightly overcast and a mere 107 degrees at noon >> Saturday, the city felt cool to some desert dwellers. >> >> ''This is fine to us,'' said Patti Johns, 52, a tourist visiting with >> her husband from Phoenix. ''I'll take this over winter anytime.'' >> >> But in Idaho, residents of the Wood River Valley and possibly Boise >> were warned they could see electrical failures in the middle of the >> heat wave. A wildfire damaged dozens of power poles on Friday and >> caused one to fall on a substation and destroy a transformer, said >> Jeff Beaman, a spokesman for Idaho Power. >> >> The damage could cause rotating outages and residents were asked to >> reduce their power usage so the utility could meet demand, Beaman >> said. >> >> In Montana, it was even too hot to fish. >> >> Yellowstone National Park and state fisheries managers asked anglers >> starting Saturday not to fish on some Montana rivers between noon and >> 6 p.m. due to drought and scorching weather. Water temperatures in >> some lower-elevation rivers have reached 73 degrees in recent days, >> conditions that can stress and even kill fish, the National Park >> Service said Friday. >> >> Park officials hoped the voluntary restrictions would prevent >> mandatory closures later in the season. >> >> -- > You don't suppose wild fires could be started at an optimal time by Green PEACE GLOBAL WARMING CRAZIES do you? It wouldn't be the first time they did illegal things like set fires. Or maybe Al Qaeda ran across the southern boarder and set a few, it's not like we haven't had these fires before. Simple and we provide the materials (that has Al Qaeda Written all over it) --------------070904070403020003010004 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070904070403020003010004-- From - Mon Jul 09 09:54:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:54:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <1i0zdis.1l8aio11e0xo79N%notinuse2@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <1i0zdis.1l8aio11e0xo79N%notinuse2@btinternet.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080902000605030203010506" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080902000605030203010506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Hayes wrote: > Alan wrote: > >> In message , Bill Wright >> wrote >> >> >>> What a totally stupid and ignorant remark! I wish I could take you to meet >>> the people of Toll Bar, and let you spout such shite! You wouldn't last ten >>> seconds mate! >> For fuck sake it's a minor bit of local flooding that the press, as >> usual, have made a major disaster. It may a bit of a problem for those >> affected but in the scale of world problems, and even the rest of the >> UK, it is insignificant. > > It won't be insignificant when food prices rocket as a result of this > year's ruined harvest over much of central and southern England. > > The worst hit are farmers, they don't receive any compensation and crop > failure is uninsurable. > >> All we are getting now is that the rest of us who have paid spent their >> hard earned cash on household insurance should now pay for those who >> cannot be bothered to do the same. > > This does seem to make a nonsense of insuring. > > Why should compensation be handed out just because flooding occured on a > large scale? The pain is the same for one victim of one flooded house in > an obscure village as for a victim in Toll Bar. > I hear Lloyds of Llondon insures anything? --------------080902000605030203010506 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080902000605030203010506-- From - Mon Jul 09 09:57:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:57:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: OK Coppock prove I was penetrated by a Paraguayan Alpaca infront of 3000 cheering climate skeptics References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000400040303050805020002" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000400040303050805020002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B0nz0 wrote: > Fact is Coppock I KNOW you cannot prove that I was penetrated by an alpaca > in front of 3000 cheering, climate skeptics at the 12th Annual Climate > Deniers Conference at Goose Bay Newfoundland in November 2003. You see > Roger, I happen to know that security confiscated all cameras and mobiles > at the door. That leaves you without a shred of evidence and my reputation > intact. > The penis cam too? --------------000400040303050805020002 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" YmVnaW46dmNhcmQNCmZuOkFuIGlnbm9yYW50IHBlcnNvbiBpcyBvbmUgd2hvIGRvZXNuJ3Qg a25vdyB3aGF0IHlvdSBoYXZlIGp1c3QgZm91bmQgb3V0Lg0Kbjo7QW4gaWdub3JhbnQgcGVy c29uIGlzIG9uZSB3aG8gZG9lc24ndCBrbm93IHdoYXQgeW91IGhhdmUganVzdCBmb3VuZCBv dXQuDQp2ZXJzaW9uOjIuMQ0KZW5kOnZjYXJkDQoNCg== --------------000400040303050805020002-- From - Mon Jul 09 10:02:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:02:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Really - Unreal Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040905070105020704050702" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040905070105020704050702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Liberals look at the temp on their digital outside remote thermometer from their air conditioned cubical and tell me it's Global Warming and I'm causing it. --------------040905070105020704050702 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040905070105020704050702-- From - Mon Jul 09 10:28:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:28:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.abortion Subject: Re: A New Military -Global Warming Bomb References: <1183939203.262098.310350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183939203.262098.310350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030901060501080708000301" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030901060501080708000301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Spartakus wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Global warming is a new weapon created by Bush to cause the middle >> east to become a desert. Finally someone with a plan. >> >> It's obvious and the proof is that Liberals were protesting by holding >> concerts to protest the new Military weapon. > > Strange as this may sound, global warming deniers appear to be even > more stupid and dishonest than anti-abortion people. > Hey, is the middle east a desert? Proof that it's working... The JiHadist are killing themselves by selling us oil... they're dumber than we are, Karl Marx - said Capitalist would sell you the rope to hang themselves. These Zealots are selling the oil to turn their Garden Of Eden into a dust bowl.... Protest the crazy Arabs not the oil companies. *Listen to your leader Karl Marx.* --------------030901060501080708000301 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030901060501080708000301-- From - Mon Jul 09 10:31:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:31:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.abortion,alt.abortion Subject: Re: A New Military -Global Warming Bomb References: <1183939203.262098.310350@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183963421.566092.40010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183963421.566092.40010@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030603080203040607020600" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030603080203040607020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cato wrote: > On Jul 8, 5:13 pm, "james g. keegan jr." wrote: >> In article <1183939203.262098.310...@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, >> >> Spartakus wrote: >>> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> Global warming is a new weapon created by Bush to cause the middle >>>> east to become a desert. Finally someone with a plan. >>>> It's obvious and the proof is that Liberals were protesting by holding >>>> concerts to protest the new Military weapon. >>> Strange as this may sound, global warming deniers appear to be even >>> more stupid and dishonest than anti-abortion people. >> how can the be? aren't they mostly the same? >> >> -- >> get real. like jesus would ever own a gun or vote republican. > > Uh...well... you know what? If Jesus were alive today, ya, he just > might have his disciples buy a few guns. After all, two thousand years > ago he had them get a couple of swords. > > Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or > sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to > them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if > you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: > `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that > this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is > reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are > two swords." "That is enough," he replied. (Luke 22:35-38) > And in John 18:10, Peter uses his own sword. It appears that at > least some of Christ's disciples carried weapons at least some of the > time. > > Would He vote Republican? No, I don't think so. But I also don't > think He would vote Democrat. > Something tells me He would vote Libertarian, if he even voted at > all. > > Cato > > > > So God is My co pilot... --------------030603080203040607020600 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------030603080203040607020600-- From - Mon Jul 09 10:40:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:40:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: So, er, will we hear rebuttals against the propaganda of "Live Earth?" References: <1183947475.245127.76760@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183949486.411254.55690@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183991192.946892.195470@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183991192.946892.195470@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------050601000202080508090405" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050601000202080508090405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE wrote: > On Jul 8, 10:51 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 8, 7:17 pm, Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE >> >> wrote: >>> Interesting. Now TV networks are working hand in glove with the >>> global warming cabal. They don't even try to hide it. Disgusting. >> You don't hear any rebuttals to statements from the >> round Earth cabal either. It must be the same >> conspiracy. >> > > Well, at least we can PROVE the Earth is round, unlike the endlessly > computer-modelled global warming B.S. > I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... --------------050601000202080508090405 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------050601000202080508090405-- From - Mon Jul 09 10:43:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:43:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming is So Yesterday References: <1183984191.654573.113480@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1183989895.679290.13610@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183989895.679290.13610@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020405070803020006070604" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020405070803020006070604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 9, 7:29 am, mrbawana2u wrote: cold weather does tend to dampen enthusiasm somewhat. >> >> Of course, the global warming enthusiasts have already tried >> repackaging their rhetoric of doom, so Langford found himself musing, > About the time the Al Gore ACTION FIGURES COME OUT, WILL BE THE DEATH OF THE GLOBAL WARMING FAD. --------------020405070803020006070604 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020405070803020006070604-- From - Mon Jul 09 11:26:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED References: <1183219627.374747.133690@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1183401610.960526.241220@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183471106.569522.207830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183602934.150180.158570@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183738861.036136.257520@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183778914.119837.206860@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1183800895.293507.216520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183821828.704356.274210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183826737.497989.324430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183860902.424352.95860@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040005020505060906090403" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040005020505060906090403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 7, 10:15 pm, schoenfeld....@gmail.com wrote: >> On Jul 8, 2:45 am, "Phil." wrote: >> >>> I'm not pretending, the poster completely misunderstands the physics >>> and his claim of thorough research is completely bogus. >>> The issue raised was that the poster believes that the mechanism by >>> which CO2 operates is by scattering solar radiation to space, >>> that's totally false since the spectrum of the incoming solar >>> radiation is not the same as the spectrum of the outgoing radiation. The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of the solar energy.... When asked about this Bush said: "No abla englesia..." This Top Secret project was triggered by several hot days and the air conditioning having broken down at the Bush Ranch. This was decided upon after a suggestion to rub the entire planet with SPF 80 Sun Block was dismissed, as it would offend the sensitivities of our Muslim Brothers. --------------040005020505060906090403 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040005020505060906090403-- From - Mon Jul 09 11:43:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:43:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040605070702060006060304" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040605070702060006060304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 7, 10:15 pm, schoenfeld....@gmail.com wrote: >> On Jul 8, 2:45 am, "Phil." wrote: >> >>> I'm not pretending, the poster completely misunderstands the physics >>> and his claim of thorough research is completely bogus. >>> The issue raised was that the poster believes that the mechanism by >>> which CO2 operates is by scattering solar radiation to space, >>> that's totally false since the spectrum of the incoming solar >>> radiation is not the same as the spectrum of the outgoing radiation. The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of the solar energy.... When asked about this Bush said: "No abla englesia..." This Top Secret project was triggered by several hot days and the air conditioning having broken down at the Bush Ranch. This was decided upon after a suggestion to rub the entire planet with SPF 80 Sun Block was dismissed, as it would offend the sensitivities of our Muslim Brothers. An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. --------------040605070702060006060304 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------040605070702060006060304-- From - Mon Jul 09 11:55:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:55:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: 2b or not 2b - was live earth a breath of fresh air or a stinker :ie: A Rosie by any other NAme? Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020306050201000403040501" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020306050201000403040501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Did anyone think to measure Co2 before the Live Earth Concert and then measure it after? Seems to me there was a lot of hot air expelled on this one. --------------020306050201000403040501 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020306050201000403040501-- From - Mon Jul 09 12:01:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:01:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Al Gore slams global warming doubters References: <1183950494.838019.149400@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183954386.142594.189570@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080504080505090407060700" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080504080505090407060700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Miles Long wrote: > mrbawana2u wrote: >> On Jul 8, 8:08 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >>> Al Gore slams global warming doubters at Live Earth >> >> Hehe. Next, the gore-tard will be telling people how to be fathers. >> How come lib-turds have such rotten kids, co2puke? >> How many times have your kids tried to kill themselves, co2puke? >> >> > > Yeah! I much prefer the kind of parents who spawn the likes of > Timothy MvVey; conservative, Republican...now that's quality > upbringing!!! > > Miles "Dr. Spock Was Right" Long I prefer the more Liberal Manson Family myself... --------------080504080505090407060700 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------080504080505090407060700-- From - Mon Jul 09 12:28:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:28:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: AL GORE ACTION FIGURES Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020500000408070608090006" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020500000408070608090006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Comic strip Super Hero Al Gore is destined to top the Spiderman legacy. I'm sure a movie trilogy will be coming soon. The Action figures of the pre obese AlGore will follow the trilogy. I'm not privy to the superpowers that the mild mannered Gore will have as he transforms into the *GAIA* MAN. Who from his exceptionally well powered Millionaires Mansion saves the planet from the evil genius Talk-n-Dog who is a hideous half beast half man That thinks the World is his Cookie, Global domination is his hobby. He's training an army of space monkeys, through which he'll mercilessly rule. --------------020500000408070608090006 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020500000408070608090006-- From - Mon Jul 09 14:15:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:15:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Any Virgins out there? References: <5Ydki.12415$K9.382@bignews6.bellsouth.net> <1183949770.306831.130800@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184004114.883423.276560@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184004114.883423.276560@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010707040307070309010606" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010707040307070309010606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 8, 9:56 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 8, 3:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >>> Time to sacrifice a virgin to the global warming God... >> HAY MAN! YOU CAN'T SACRIFICE VIRGINS! >> >> The Republicans need every vote they can get! > > Are you saying that republicans are virgins? If that is the case does > that make democrats promiscuous sluts? > I think the point might be that there were no virgins on hand. --------------010707040307070309010606 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="TalknDog.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="TalknDog.vcf" begin:vcard fn:An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. n:;An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. version:2.1 end:vcard --------------010707040307070309010606-- From - Mon Jul 09 14:34:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:34:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment Subject: Re: #Heat wave leads to rash of wildfires: Round up the usual suspects - Global Warming References: <1183983137.432854.69700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > fernbach1948@yahoo.com wrote: >> Signs of a Warming World? >> >> > You don't suppose wild fires could be started at an optimal time by > Green PEACE GLOBAL WARMING CRAZIES do you? It wouldn't be the first time > they did illegal things like set fires. > > Or maybe Al Qaeda ran across the southern boarder and set a few, it's > not like we haven't had these fires before. Simple and we provide the > materials (that has Al Qaeda Written all over it) Democrats in Congress manage to blame everything on Bush, now they're expanding and selling franchise opportunities, their new partners are the Globalnutz who blame everything on global warming and Bush. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out From - Mon Jul 09 14:40:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:40:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: What's so bad about global warming? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit richard schumacher wrote: >>>> Independent of the cause, what is so bad about global warming? > > Raising sea level 20 feet and creating half a billion refugees isn't > going to do anyone any good. That will make my house ocean front, so once again, what's so bad? All the rich people will donate their valuable property us poor folks that live inland. Now there's a tax that will help the poor and midle class.... they'll get a direct transfer of wealth, without government inefficiency. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out From - Mon Jul 09 14:52:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:52:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED References: <1183401610.960526.241220@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1183471106.569522.207830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183602934.150180.158570@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183738861.036136.257520@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183778914.119837.206860@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1183800895.293507.216520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183821828.704356.274210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183826737.497989.324430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183860902.424352.95860@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing >> the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... >> >> They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to >> weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of >> the solar energy. > > How about hiring them to build a fence. . . > > Only if 12 million of them work from south side of the fence. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Mon Jul 09 18:23:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:23:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED References: <1183471106.569522.207830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183602934.150180.158570@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183738861.036136.257520@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183778914.119837.206860@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1183800895.293507.216520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183821828.704356.274210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183826737.497989.324430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183860902.424352.95860@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> Bill Ward wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> >>>> The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing >>>> the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... >>>> >>>> They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to >>>> weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of >>>> the solar energy. >>> How about hiring them to build a fence. . . >>> >>> >> Only if 12 million of them work from south side of the fence. > > I think we Germans can donate some parts of the wall for that? > That's better than a fence. I'll go to Germany and live since they don't require any paperwork or have any standards. I have 12 million friends who'll move with me. Fact is I don't think we need a wall or fence, we need politicians with balls enough to do what's right. Enforce the existing immigration law and they could add a few I have already posted here. Here they are... 1. Make it legal for illegal aliens to sue the employers who break employment minimum wages and injury laws. 2. Make it possible for law enforcement to treat illegal aliens earning money illegally here, like they do other people that earn money illegally by selling prescriptions without proper documentation/or drug dealers, gambling/bookmaking, IRS fraud and the other financial crimes. Yes I MEAN CONFISCATE ALL THEIR ILL GOTTEN WEALTH AND THEN PROSECUTE AND FINE THEM. This will save us having to pay to have the wall built, and save us the bus rides of 12 twelve million deportations.... when they have no jobs to come to they'll quit coming, when they have no cars houses or bank accounts, school, hospitalization, welfare, they'll go home the same way they came, of their own free will. Thanks for the offer of the wall, but I'll bet when push comes to shove, some politicians will get knocked down and the rest will "run with the bulls" -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Mon Jul 09 20:24:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:24:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED References: <1183471106.569522.207830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183602934.150180.158570@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183738861.036136.257520@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183778914.119837.206860@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1183800895.293507.216520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183821828.704356.274210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183826737.497989.324430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183860902.424352.95860@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> Bill Ward wrote: >>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> >>>> The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing >>>> the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... >>>> >>>> They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to >>>> weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of >>>> the solar energy. >>> How about hiring them to build a fence. . . >>> >>> >> Only if 12 million of them work from the south side of the fence. > > I think we Germans can donate some parts of the wall for that? > That's better than a fence. A wall just doesn't make the right statement, do you have any machine gun nests we could refurbish. I'm looking to save a few bucks here(Congress needs a pay raise you know). Invite your wifes family for a cup of coffee, now they decide that they're moving in and want you to pay their hospital, college, and catch their electric and rent and stuff since your already paying for you. Enjoy the thought, and the next thirty years their there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Mon Jul 09 20:35:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:35:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore faces criticism for environmental concerts References: <1183990519.318556.262690@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Green Turtle wrote: > Hey, all the hot dog and burger stands must had a great day... > > on the other hand, PETA was critical of the concerts which featured vendors > selling all kind of "meat" for burgers... > > > Super Turtle > > A sudden lack of cats was noticed after the concerts, But we have a consensus that it was global warming that drove them away...heheheh Friski burgers get your ffriski burgers... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Mon Jul 09 21:30:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:30:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: What's so bad about global warming? References: <1184030191.460066.107950@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 9, 2:41 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >>> richard schumacher wrote: >>>>>>> Independent of the cause, what is so bad about global warming? >>>> Raising sea level 20 feet and creating half a billion refugees isn't >>>> going to do anyone any good. >>> How long will it take for the ocean to raise 20 feet? >> >> 300-500 years at business as usual emission growth rates, >> according to my studies with EdGCM. Only thermal expansion >> and ice melt-off, at a uniform air/water and ice/water heat >> transfer rate were considered. Potential catastrophic >> events, like Clathrate Guns, > > What do Clathrate Guns have to do with sea level? > >> major ice shelf collapses, > > Which will not change sea level at all. > >> and etc. were not estimated or modeled. (Therefore, >> consider this statement as an upper bound.) > > Is there anything in the "etc" list that would affect > sea level? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > Rich you ruining my day... I was wanting to believe that I'd have waterfront property here, I was already spending the $30mil that my house value was going up. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 09:26:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:26:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment Subject: Re: #Heat wave leads to rash of wildfires References: <1183983137.432854.69700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184070130.169988.245090@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184070130.169988.245090@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 9, 9:50 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > In reply to Talkin' Dog's comment about Greenpeace activists possibly > starting wildfires -- > > Dog - Sure, there's always a chance of human involvement in starting > wildfires. > Severe Drought Causing Livestock Deaths in N. China > USAgNet - 07/10/2007 > > The most severe drought in half a century has left more than 200,000 > people short of drinking water and caused deaths of 170,000 livestock > in north China's Inner Mongolia, local government sources said on > Friday > > SNIP > While I won't dispute that a yak or bunch of cows or goats died I will continue to consider that they might have died from eating Chinese DOG FOOD or any one of a few thousand other things, mad cow... Not a conspiracy but rather a bonus point in the world domination game, imagining I'm Wearing their shoes, I'm not surprised they'd blame global warming. If the world is convinced that Global warming is real then they will pressure the US to enact Global Warming Legislation that will slow our economy stifle growth and make us weaker. also... Fires might be less severe if cutting in some of the areas were allowed, but once again, the enviro-mental-ist have taught us a "better" way, so when we have fires, they have plenty of fuel to burn and in the dry season.... what would you guess would happen with that. Two or three or four airplanes fell from the sky this week, Now I think that's a lot, but is it global *gravity* killing people? No it was separate unrelated incidences at each situation. The living earth religion isn't science, the earth is at best a series of symbiotic relationships not a living organism. - >> You don't suppose wild fires could be started at an optimal time by >> Green PEACE GLOBAL WARMING CRAZIES do you? It wouldn't be the first time >> they did illegal things like set fires. >> >> Or maybe Al Qaeda ran across the southern boarder and set a few, it's >> not like we haven't had these fires before. > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 09:31:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:31:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,talk.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How much impact on the environment do Hybrid cars really have? References: <1183890500.425826.40590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46937308$0$4705$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46937308$0$4705$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cockamamie Khomeini wrote: > Doc wrote: >> Okay, so they use less gas - but what about manufacturing of all the >> components - they still incorporate steel and I assume other metals, >> plastic, glass, petroleum products, etc. plus the components for the >> electrical portion. >> >> So ultimately, what difference in overall impact on "the environment" >> does driving a hybrid car really make? >> > It's an overpriced piece of crap. > YEP, I think every Liberal should have one. They're great, women love'm you will too.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 09:50:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:50:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Update on Heat, Drought, Wildfires in American West References: <1184071054.101507.194660@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184071054.101507.194660@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Sign of a Warming World? > > Hot, Dry Weather Deep undergrowth, which has had some years to fill the environmentalists protected ares are... > Feeding Wildfires > In California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, Colorado > > 35,000-acre fire being fought in California's Inyo National Forest; > cooler weather may be helping firefighters get blaze under control > > Threat of fire forces 200 people in Independence, Calif., to evacuate > their homes; > > 9,500-acre fire in Los Padres National Forest, Calif.; > > "Wildland" forests scorch 245 square miles of northern Nevada > > Wildfires force temporary closure of Kitt Peak National Observatory in > AZ > > Central Utah threatened by 468-square mile fire; > > Small wildfire burns about 1,500 acres in SW Colorado > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 09:55:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:55:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: New name for the AGW movement - Dead Earth Society References: <1183992172.199903.128710@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1183992655.696771.57730@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183995288.619278.106890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184075175.635864.279460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184075175.635864.279460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John M. wrote: > On Jul 9, 5:34 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 9, 9:50 am, "John M." wrote: >> >>> On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>> They claim that the earth is on the verge of dying from man-made CO2 >>>> and the resulting global warmi.... errr.... climate change. Therefore >>>> they should have the proper name - I think that "Dead Earth Society" >>>> fits them, as JIm Carey would say "Like a glove". >>> Who is "They"? >> The AGW movement. Sometimes the words give it away. Check the subject >> line. D'uh. > > Well, as there is no such thing as an AGW movement as far as can be > determined by searching lists of charities, political parties, > churches and other quasi-religious bodies, etc., etc., I think it was > reasonable to ask you to elaborate on the use of "they". > Al Qeada? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 10:06:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:06:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: New name for the AGW movement - Dead Earth Society References: <1183992172.199903.128710@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1183992655.696771.57730@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183995288.619278.106890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184075175.635864.279460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184075954.979797.192760@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184075954.979797.192760@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John M. wrote: > On Jul 10, 3:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> John M. wrote: >>> On Jul 9, 5:34 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>> On Jul 9, 9:50 am, "John M." wrote: >>>>> On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>>>> They claim that the earth is on the verge of dying from man-made CO2 >>>>>> and the resulting global warmi.... errr.... climate change. Therefore >>>>>> they should have the proper name - I think that "Dead Earth Society" >>>>>> fits them, as JIm Carey would say "Like a glove". >>>>> Who is "They"? >>>> The AGW movement. Sometimes the words give it away. Check the subject >>>> line. D'uh. >>> Well, as there is no such thing as an AGW movement as far as can be >>> determined by searching lists of charities, political parties, >>> churches and other quasi-religious bodies, etc., etc., I think it was >>> reasonable to ask you to elaborate on the use of "they". >> Al Qeada? > > Is that an abbreviation for Albert or Alan? > > Geee whizz that was a Freudian slip I meant Al Gore -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 11:36:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:36:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: New name for the AGW movement - Dead Earth Society References: <1183992172.199903.128710@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1183992655.696771.57730@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183995288.619278.106890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184075175.635864.279460@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184075954.979797.192760@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184076886.460323.281140@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184076886.460323.281140@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John M. wrote: > On Jul 10, 4:06 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> John M. wrote: >>> On Jul 10, 3:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> John M. wrote: >>>>> On Jul 9, 5:34 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 9, 9:50 am, "John M." wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 9, 4:42 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>>>>>> They claim that the earth is on the verge of dying from man-made CO2 >>>>>>>> and the resulting global warmi.... errr.... climate change. Therefore >>>>>>>> they should have the proper name - I think that "Dead Earth Society" >>>>>>>> fits them, as JIm Carey would say "Like a glove". >>>>>>> Who is "They"? >>>>>> The AGW movement. Sometimes the words give it away. Check the subject >>>>>> line. D'uh. >>>>> Well, as there is no such thing as an AGW movement as far as can be >>>>> determined by searching lists of charities, political parties, >>>>> churches and other quasi-religious bodies, etc., etc., I think it was >>>>> reasonable to ask you to elaborate on the use of "they". >>>> Al Qeada? >>> Is that an abbreviation for Albert or Alan? >> Geee whizz >> that was a Freudian slip >> >> I meant Al Gore > > So that one is a slip worthy of George Bush. Gore is a personage - not > a club, association, movement, church, etc., etc. > THE earth isn't "alive" the cult that believes this is similar to Al Qaeda, they use cells.... Now who is Osama Binladen? Is he the movement or a Grand PoohBa. Who coined Al Qaeda? Who coined Global Warming.... AlGore - Grand Poohba Who decided Al Qaeda was even a movement, Clinton? Al Gore took $100K from a charity for a speech... who and what were those donations meant for? What were they spent for? Who was ripped off? If I gave a thousand dollars, I'd expect it to go to help the planet not go to Al Gore who bails his son out of jail with it. Who gives money to Al Qaeda... what is that money collected as, and who gets the money? Al Qaeda - Al Gore - Global Warming - BinLaden, fear, money, roll humanity back a thousand years, their all interchangeable. What a dismal, fearful, humorless life Liberals must live. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 11:52:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:52:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,talk.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How much impact on the environment do Hybrid cars really have? References: <1183890500.425826.40590@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46937308$0$4705$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46937308$0$4705$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cockamamie Khomeini wrote: > Doc wrote: >> Okay, so they use less gas - but what about manufacturing of all the >> components - they still incorporate steel and I assume other metals, >> plastic, glass, petroleum products, etc. plus the components for the >> electrical portion. >> >> So ultimately, what difference in overall impact on "the environment" >> does driving a hybrid car really make? >> > It's an overpriced piece of crap. > It's a chick magnet. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 13:17:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:17:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SUN-CLIMATE Link Most Likely Established Now References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Tom Gardner" wrote >> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message >> news:f6ve60$199$1@news1.nefonline.de... >>> South Africa >>> http://nzclimatescience.net/images/PDFs/alexander2707.pdf >>> >>> This study is based on the numerical analysis of the properties of >>> routinely observed hydrometeorological data which in South Africa alone >>> is collected at a rate of more than half a million station days per year, >>> with some records approaching 100 continuous years in length. >>> The analysis of this data demonstrates an unequivocal synchronous linkage >>> between these processes in South Africa and elsewhere, and solar >>> activity. >> >> >> SACRILEGE! You will be hunted down like a dog for such blasphemy! > > I'm living in fear since I have written this. > I will ... oh, wait a moment... there is a black van stopping outside... > 4 men with sunglasses coming to my hous.....§$&/(&%/"&§ > CARRIER LOST > Remember to tell them that water boarding is against the UN rules and Al Gore doesn't like it. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 16:15:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:15:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Chile Is A Little Chilly Lately References: <1184095188.889490.108950@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184097541.038366.232350@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184097541.038366.232350@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >>> But thousands of people cheered in the streets of Buenos Aires at the >>> sight of the capital's first snowfall since 1918. >>> "Despite all my years, this is the first time I've ever seen snow in >>> Buenos Aires," 82-year-old Juana Benitez was quoted as saying > > >> And yet another rightwing imbecile who doesn't understand that JULY is >> WINTER in the Southern Hemisphere. > > And what part of that didn't YOU understand? 1918? 82-year-old? > Surely with all of this "global warming" going on we should consider > this odd. > > Fears of global ice age due to extreme cold... Fears of Global flooding when it rained in Texas, the 2500 year cycle was exposed, when an ark floated to the surface of the river. Fears of drought when fires burned undergrowth... Fears that it will never cool back down in the NE U.S. because Bush id the Great Satan. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 16:23:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:23:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Tom wrote: >> Good news: In 2000, we all voted for a Presidential candidate that >> promised to work to cap carbon emissions if he were elected. >> >> Bad news: Some of us voted for a liar. > > What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission > caps? It's like the seat belt laws... It might save your life, unless you drive into a river, then it might drown you. Sounds constitutional to me? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 16:38:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:38:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <328q83tdo3e9oir92e23gu8dnvbu3hlsek@4ax.com> <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> <4776466e.2880343134@news.giganews.com> <1184002632.828186.202360@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184093657.456178.85090@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184093657.456178.85090@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Chomko wrote: > On Jul 9, 11:30 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> Eric Chomko wrote: >> >> :On Jul 6, 10:53 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote::> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >> :> >> :> Jesus, will you stop attaching a VCF to Usenet postings? >> :> >> : >> :Keep doing it. If it pisses Freddy off, then it is a GOOD thing... :) >> : >> >> Yeah, binary attachments on postings in non-binary groups are "a GOOD >> thing" by Eric's lights. >> >> What a dumbfuck you are. > > A VCF file is barely anything. What a whiney little man you are. > >> -- >> "Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is >> only stupid." >> -- Heinrich Heine > > I swapped it out just to make the whole world happy... I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony... Can't we all just get along? BFD it was probably smaller when I used the VCF because I added to it as an ASCII, It's not like I had a photo in it. There's always one, they tell me I spelled it wrong or some other crap cause they can't argue the points of the posts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 17:05:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:05:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming: BUSH'S SECRET PLANS EXPOSED References: <1183738861.036136.257520@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183778914.119837.206860@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <1183800895.293507.216520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1183821828.704356.274210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1183826737.497989.324430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183860902.424352.95860@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1183993452.900869.125730@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184090956.557650.117280@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184090956.557650.117280@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 9, 6:23 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >>>> Bill Ward wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 11:26:42 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>> The reason George Bush and Congress are dragging their heels at closing >>>>>> the SOUTHERN BOARDER is that they plan to use the 12 million illegals... >>>>>> They plan to pay them $2.75 an hour(to do a job Americans won't do) to >>>>>> weave a giant Sombrero and have NASA launch it into orbit to block some of >>>>>> the solar energy. >>>>> How about hiring them to build a fence. . . >>>> Only if 12 million of them work from south side of the fence. >>> I think we Germans can donate some parts of the wall for that? >>> That's better than a fence. >> I'll go to Germany and live since they don't require any paperwork or >> have any standards. I have 12 million friends who'll move with me. Fact >> is I don't think we need a wall or fence, we need politicians with balls >> enough to do what's right. Enforce the existing immigration law and they >> could add a few I have already posted here. Here they are... >> >> 1. Make it legal for illegal aliens to sue the employers who break >> employment minimum wages and injury laws. >> > > Just repeal the constitution while you're at it. Heck, Bush has. Or you could buy them a car and let them stay in your extra room. Someone breaks into your house and your going to invite them to stay? Al Qaeda gets their day in court. But you think a Mexican is less human? > >> 2. Make it possible for law enforcement to treat illegal aliens earning >> money illegally here, like they do other people that earn money >> illegally by selling prescriptions without proper documentation/or drug >> dealers, gambling/bookmaking, IRS fraud and the other financial crimes. >> Yes I MEAN CONFISCATE ALL THEIR ILL GOTTEN WEALTH AND THEN PROSECUTE AND >> FINE THEM. >> > > Tie up the courts with nothing else? > Under the Constitution a Judge just sued a dry cleaners for $54million, over a pair of pants. I can't see a few Mexicans suing in the courts being any more frivolous or more unconstitutional. It will only take two or three multi million dollar suits and the business and home owners will treat the rest of the Mexicans like they're lepers. >> This will save us having to pay to have the wall built, and save us the >> bus rides of 12 twelve million deportations.... when they have no jobs >> to come to they'll quit coming, when they have no cars houses or bank >> accounts, school, hospitalization, welfare, they'll go home the same way >> they came, of their own free will. >> > > Or you could adopt another solution -- round them up and put them in > trains and send them to concentration camps. Your kind of thinking, > eh? That would come from taxes and like ~TAX~ cuts, someone has to pay for it. Democrats will simply raise your taxes because money solves everything - right. But you can round them up if that's your plan. My way, they'll just go home, where they have family and friends. And they'll do it of their own free will. Just like you pay your taxes, of your own free will. >> Thanks for the offer of the wall, but I'll bet when push comes to shove, >> some politicians will get knocked down and the rest will "run with the >> bulls" Besides it will help solve Global warming. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 17:07:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:07:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Crops are already dying from global warming. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > > > http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/eastfield2/eastfield2007aa.html > > We're all gonna die. :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich > > Not again... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 17:18:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:18:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183869153.207722.269090@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183931323.936191.129670@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <2rm393lod5dgpl2k2ott77iommhqs8h5kt@4ax.com> <1184070494.847253.120100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:28:14 -0700, einarbb@gmail.com wrote: > >> Whata Fool wrote: >> But as ice reflects solar rays In *light* of this info: I think we should have a special day this summer where all the "NON BELIEVERS" Go to a concert and use *MIRRORS* to reflect all the sun we can back into space. I'll sell you all the carbon offsets you need. Oh and we can listen to rock/country, drink beer, and eat fatty greasy food cooked on solar grills and the girls can pull their tops off and get a tan all over too. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 19:48:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:48:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: THE REAL SWINDLERS References: <4692ed2f@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184099858.778396.283570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184099858.778396.283570@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 9, 9:21 pm, "B0nz0" wrote: > Science has no heresy's. Only religions do. > unless your science *becomes* a religion. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 20:24:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:24:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Crops are already dying from global warming. References: <1184102409.976280.302980@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184102409.976280.302980@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 10, 1:02 pm, Rich wrote: >> http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2007/eastfield2/eastfield2007aa.html >> >> We're all gonna die. :-) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rich > > But crop circles aren't man-made are they? Maybe these are left by > aliens pumping CO2 out their flying saucer jets? > hey, you know they abducted me in one of those, and I did notice that all the Co2 made me light headed and then I passed out.... NBD but when I woke up inside the saucer, they were *gang probing me*... The meds are helping but it comes rushing back every now and then, and I suddenly remembered that they had a weather radar screen and pictures of dead crops and melting polar caps and drowning polar bears... go figure? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 21:46:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:46:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: The sky is burnin, I believe my soul's on fire Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The earth is getting more heat, the solar winds heat the earth, the earths magnetic field reflects the solar winds. BUT we've been seeing and predicting polar reversals and other problems with the magnetic fields. To start with, the *over the horizon radar* has long been suspect of interfering with the Northern lights. http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 22:36:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:36:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: June tied for 5th warmest on NASA's 128-year record. References: <1184087801.867641.180880@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <5dc893lpljffufl92nkv1095uq1k04ke04@4ax.com> <1184120167.068150.281610@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184120167.068150.281610@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 10, 9:26 pm, Whata Fool wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:16:41 -0700, Roger Coppock >> wrote: >> >>> June tied for 5th warmest on NASA's 128-year record. >> Ho hum, ho hum, it's off to boredom we go. > > My God - NOT BOREDOM! > > Roger - I hope you realize how grievously you're wounding the GW > Denialist people in this group. Not only do they contribute Greens > like you and me to be "traitors" and "communists" and "cultists" and > "doomsayers," but they consider us boring. > > They consider you so boring, in fact, that they're constantly posting > messages in here proving (to their satisfaction) that you have to be > wrong. > > Can't you do something more to amuse these fine folk, Roger? > Something that will make them not only interested, but also HAPPY? > now your talk-n- get off your high horse and take a picture of the co2 and some heat being reflected by it. Then make it interesting. Then fix it, so we can all go back to something educational like Gilligan's Island.... Because I know the Professor has a coconut and bamboo electron microscope that would've helped repair the ozone and co2. Thanks Little buddy... oooooppps no gay jokes right. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Tue Jul 10 23:08:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 001d X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:08:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The sky is burnin, I believe my soul's on fire References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > The earth is getting more heat, the solar winds heat the earth, the > earths magnetic field reflects the solar winds. > > BUT we've been seeing and predicting polar reversals and other problems > with the magnetic fields. > > To start with, the *over the horizon radar* has long been suspect of > interfering with the Northern lights. > > > http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ > > > Losing its protective magnetic envelope, the atmosphere would expand and become thinner, possibly leading to altitude sickness near sea level. No longer filtered out, deadly cosmic rays would kill most if, not all, living creatures on the surface. Only those living in deep caves would be safe. This scenario has prompted some to build underground bunkers in hopes of surviving. > The sun reverses its magnetic field like clockwork every eleven years at the peak of the sunspot cycle. The next solar flip is due in 2012. South-pointing magnetic flux moves from sunspots, which are intense magnetic loops near the equator of the sun, along “meridional flows” to the north magnetic pole, and vice versa. As the oppositely-directed charge accumulates at the poles the field declines, until eventually the reverse charge predominates. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 09:20:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:20:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: pass some laws already Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pass some Co2 global warming laws... and maybe then the government will have the right to cut the under brush fuel thats burning so well in the fires in the west -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 09:33:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:33:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1184142335.976136.143740@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184142335.976136.143740@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt_sykes wrote: > On 11 Jul, 09:50, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Deniers of global warming harm us >> >> By JOEL CONNELLY >> Seattle Post-Intelligencer Columnist >> >> AS THE WORLD'S scientists near consensus on human causes of climate >> change, even Exxon is cutting contributions and distancing itself from >> the global warming denial industry. >> Exxon also "believes in Christ" when the profit motive suits them. Liberals are such Hypocrisy whores... You'll use any scrap of Hypocritical, useless "news" and try to make it sound like you've solved the search for the meaning of life. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 09:39:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:39:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Sun's in the clear over global warming References: <1184141980.232424.256220@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184141980.232424.256220@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xnichols@hotmail.com wrote: > Sun's in the clear over global warming, says study > > Scientists on Wednesday said that the rise in global temperatures that > has been detected over the past two decades cannot be blamed on the > Sun, I will have to say that the "Co2 theory is a sun powered theory" So it is the sun even if as you propose that it's not the sun... The only question is how it's the sun. Or is it the core of the earth/residual? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 09:46:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:46:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Notice: "Alt.global-warming" is not a gay dating service, nor a group devoted to homophobia References: <1183983641.516264.108700@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184119818.860179.275220@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "john fernbach" wrote >> On Jul 9, 11:51 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >> wrote: >> >>> No more talking about Al Gore, the climate orgasm on two feet? >> Oh, GOODY - another FINE DISTRACTION from actually discussing the >> blessed CLIMATE!! > > There is no discussion about climate. > Read your own subject line. Global Warming isn't weather... it's political/Psudo science mumbo - jumbo that's cult-esque. So why would you want to talk real science, that would have to be off topic. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 09:56:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:56:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: NASA Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate References: <1184129909.102360.318900@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184130749.768638.231270@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469477ae$2@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184135724.787569.248420@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote >> On Jul 10, 11:24 pm, "B0nz0" wrote: >>> "Roger Coppock" wrote in message >>> >>> news:1184130749.768638.231270@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> Some of what I've said all along, and some more data too. >>>> It's not the sun. None of the solar causes fit, be they >>>> irradiance, cosmic rays, magnetism, or pixy dust. >>> March 20, 2003 >>> >>> NASA Study Finds Increasing Solar Trend That Can Change Climate >>> Since the late 1970s, the amount of solar radiation the sun emits, >>> during times of quiet sunspot activity, has increased by nearly .05 percent per >>> decade, according to a NASA funded study. >>> >>> "This trend is important because, if sustained over many decades, it >>> could cause significant climate change," said Richard Willson, a researcher >> >> Note the words "can" and "could" above. >> >> Anyway, this 4-year old study is now quite discredited. This would be one done before the "Enlightened Believers" became born again, and now we see that there is only one true science God the Gaia, shown to us in a pure light by the Gore-icle.... So the fix is in. All the old studies are foul play huh. Would you care to dispute the old E=Mc2 stuff too, That's .... well at least 4 years old. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 10:05:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:05:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183869153.207722.269090@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183931323.936191.129670@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <2rm393lod5dgpl2k2ott77iommhqs8h5kt@4ax.com> <1184070494.847253.120100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:18:22 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:28:14 -0700, einarbb@gmail.com wrote: >>>> But as ice reflects solar rays >> In *light* of this info: >> >> I think we should have a special day this summer where all the "NON >> BELIEVERS" Go to a concert and use *MIRRORS* to reflect all the sun we >> can back into space. >> >> I'll sell you all the carbon offsets you need. > > I am already paying more than I can afford for gasoline. > >> Oh and we can listen to rock/country, drink beer, and eat fatty greasy >> food cooked on solar grills and the girls can pull their tops off and >> get a tan all over too. > > Except for one of those suggestions, it sounds boring, > or unhealthy. > > > > That's because it's fun... we all know if it's fun or unhealthy it's bad for'ya. We're all gonna be dead in a hundred years any ways.... What, you want to see the end. Co2 or an Asteroid? What's the difference how you die, your still dead? We,ve set the pendulum in motion. It's just a matter of time. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 10:26:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:26:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: New theory: Global Warming caused by spider's methane References: <1184130343.708985.4590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184130343.708985.4590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xnichols@hotmail.com wrote: > Those spiders should be ashamed of the effect they're having on the > islands of Kiribati > by Mark Steel The Independent > Published: 11 July 2007 (extract) > > 'The Live Earth concert was worthwhile, because it provoked this > splendid argument from a columnist in The Sun, who insists the climate > isn't changing - "Global warming is simply the new way of screwing > more and more taxes out of us." > So it turns out all those scientists and weather people and botanists > and people measuring glaciers have made it all up so the Government > can propose a twelve quid long-haul airline tax. There's probably a > secret group in Greenland hacking icebergs to bits with a shovel to > make it look more convincing. I just want to see the guy that's drowning polar bears, he has some major Cojonies. So how many were there to save the planet from Co2? Then how many were there to get laid? Ban sex, to fight Co2, and you'll get the same people to fight that law and a few more people that want their voice to be heard also. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 10:47:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:47:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Notice: "Alt.global-warming" is not a gay dating service, nor a group devoted to homophobia References: <1183983641.516264.108700@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184119818.860179.275220@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >>> "john fernbach" wrote >>>> On Jul 9, 11:51 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No more talking about Al Gore, the climate orgasm on two feet? >>>> Oh, GOODY - another FINE DISTRACTION from actually discussing the >>>> blessed CLIMATE!! >>> There is no discussion about climate. >>> Read your own subject line. >> Global Warming isn't weather... it's political/Psudo science mumbo - >> jumbo that's cult-esque. So why would you want to talk real science, >> that would have to be off topic. > > That's just the point. Oh -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 10:53:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:53:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Franks wrote: > Tom wrote: >> On Jul 11, 12:43 am, Whata Fool wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:01:58 -0700, Peter Franks wrote: >>> >>>> Tom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Good news: In 2000, we all voted for a Presidential candidate that >>>>> promised to work to cap carbon emissions if he were elected. >>> >>>>> Bad news: Some of us voted for a liar. >>> >>>> What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission >>>> caps? >>> >>> Can somebody say what the CO2 emissions per capita (the >>> actual population counting illegals, tourists, and visitors) on Jan. 20. >>> 2001, and also today? >>> >>> I would consider it spectacular if there has been no >>> increase in emissions per capita. >>> >>> But I also think it is less than observant to think the >>> president can do anything without the congress when there is no national >>> emergency. >> >> >> The congress already acted, it's called the Clean Air Act. Gives the >> executive branch the power to regulate any pollutant that is causing >> climate change. The Supreme Court recently upheld this interpretation >> of the act. > > I'm not asking the supreme Court, I'm asking you, presumably a citizen > of the US. > > What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission > caps (vis-à-vis the Clean Air Act)? Since when is Carbon... dirty? They will need to regulate humidity then also... and burning Alcohol produces co2 and steam. I'm sweating and it's the humidity. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 11:01:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:01:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <1184003212.583590.110830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184094279.988452.323700@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3rKdnSPgDrMxRw7bnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com> <1184095995.554937.54710@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <45q99351942fftih93bvg90fthttmli2mk@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <45q99351942fftih93bvg90fthttmli2mk@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred J. McCall wrote: > Mitchell Holman wrote: > > :Fred J. McCall wrote in > :news:a7l893tk4v7hs66mllhkqljuddtn6uidj0@4ax.com: > : > :> Eric Chomko wrote: > :> > :>:On Jul 10, 3:15 pm, Rich wrote: > :>:> Eric Chomko wrote: > :>:> > :>:> [...] > :>:> > :>:> > Martha Stewart served time. Paris Hilton served more time than Libby > :>:> > did. Do you think it just that Libby's sentence was commuted? > :>:> > :>:> You know something, I've been trying to determine exactly what > :>:> crime Libby committed? Best I can figure he could not remember > :>:> what he told someone else. But he did not 'out' Vallery Plame, > :>:> nor was she outed by anyone who had talked to Libby. I read > :>:> somewhere that it was pretty widely known that she was a > :>:> CIA agent anyway. > :>: > :>:It was not widely known about Plame when Novak reported that fact. The > :>:fact that the WH would "fix" Joe Wilson for not following their party > :>:line about uranium from Niger by outting his wife DOES seem to be what > :>:occurred. Libby couldn't keep the story straight, was the right guy to > :>:take the fall, only to have W commute his sentence. > :>: > :> > :> Except nobody has been charged with that (not even the guy that admits > :> telling Novak) and there's no evidence any such thing happened. > :> There's not even good evidence that Plame *WAS* a covert agent within > :> the meaning of the law. > :> > : > : So why did the Bush Administration appointed a > :special prosecutor to investigate the leak? > : > > The same reason 'special prosecutors' are always appointed. Political > pressures. > > Who has been charged and with what? Has *ANYONE* been charged for > 'outing' Plame? When was Plame's last 'covert' assignment? > > There was no crime There is no global warming There is no intelligent life -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 11:07:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:07:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth money References: <1184123158.755971.59820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184165781.740644.295650@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184165781.740644.295650@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 10, 10:05 pm, student2...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Does anyone know anything on exactly how the profits made from the >> Live Earth concerts are going to be spent? It might be going up the nose of Al Jr. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 12:13:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:13:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: The WAR ON GLOBAL WARMING: IT'S A WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If Global warming can go with a "consensus"(gut feeling) then why shouldn't Homeland Security do the same thing today? And what was wrong with Bush invading Iraq, it was a consensus that Sadom had Weapons Of Mass Destruction? I'm getting confused again, if the Liberals do something under the guise of "consensus", like global warming, why can't conservatives use the same argument....in other words the hypocrites who bash the Bush attack in Iraq should also bash Global warming attacks. Both are just consensus. Hillary Clinton voted with the consensus and so did John Carey(before he voted against it). I'm seeing that Science like everything else - is the *Liberal Consensus* of a subject until it looses it's mass appeal and votes. Then the consensus is just a conservative scam. So when Global warming looses votes it will become a conservative scam. I need an industrial shredder with the Hillary stamp of approval... I figure when it comes to shredding documents, Hillary has more savvy than the UL laboratory. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 12:21:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:21:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does stopping global warming... References: <137li.26410$C96.9363@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <137li.26410$C96.9363@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Habr wrote: > actually cause global warming? > > > If I lived 100,000 years would I, with my extremely small carbon footprint, do as much > damage as the Global Warming Industrial Complex? > > > > > Are you Al Gore using a pseudonym ? If you are then 100,000 years is a close call, to estimate. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 12:38:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:38:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GW is not sunspots, solar cycle length, solar magnetic field, cosmic rays, or solar irradiance. References: <1184161533.836073.262700@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <3u5li.46201$aP2.43377@newsfe16.lga> In-Reply-To: <3u5li.46201$aP2.43377@newsfe16.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> The rise in the global mean surface temperature since 1985 Is there a *Standard* used in measuring the Global mean temp and has it been the same fro the past 150 years? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 13:13:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:13:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Study proves C02 not Sun not causing global warming References: <1184135805.294161.19300@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46947dcd@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184145276.985318.168820@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184145276.985318.168820@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 11, 4:51 pm, "B0nz0" wrote: > > > > > Here's the real article, for those who want it: > > > > http://environment.independent.co.uk/climate_change/article2753395.ece > > Fran > "Solar activity 'not the cause of global warming' By Steve Connor, Science Editor Published: 11 July 2007 Claims that increased solar activity is the cause of global warming - rather than man-made greenhouse gases - have been comprehensively disproved by a detailed study of the Sun. Scientists have delivered the final blow to the theory that recent global warming can be explained by variations in the natural cycles of the Sun - a favourite refuge for climate sceptics who dismiss the influence of greenhouse-gas emissions." Mike Lockwood, of the Rutherford Appleton Laboratory in Chilton, Oxfordshire, said: "In 1985, the Sun did a U-turn in every respect. It no longer went in the right direction to contribute to global warming. We think it's almost completely conclusive proof that the Sun does not account for the recent increases in global warming. FROM THAT ARTICLE^^^^^^ But the Magnetic pole shifts deflecting and then not deflecting, the solar winds, isn't a problem of the sun or solar activity.... it's earths problem. so there was change in the sun but their evaluation was that it's not the cause... http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 13:35:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:35:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: pass some laws already References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > > Pass some Co2 global warming laws... and maybe then the government will > have the right to cut the under brush fuel thats burning so well in the > fires in the west > > > It's hard to go back to pre-humanity nature with millions of BIC lighters out there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 13:52:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:52:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: I hate it when people confuse the issues with facts ::was->Re: Study proves C02 not Sun not causing global warming References: <1184135805.294161.19300@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46947dcd@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184175791.495784.115230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184175791.495784.115230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 11, 2:51 am, "B0nz0" wrote: >> wrote in message >> > "A dwindling group ... a small minority which is seeking to > deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They How can anyone confuse the Global warming consensus... maybe they're looking for facts... you think? I hate it when people confuse the issues with facts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 14:05:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:05:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <47753a0a.2877171083@news.giganews.com> <4776466e.2880343134@news.giganews.com> <1184003212.583590.110830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184094279.988452.323700@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3rKdnSPgDrMxRw7bnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com> <1184176120.722675.151620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184176120.722675.151620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 10, 3:15 pm, Rich wrote: >> Eric Chomko wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Martha Stewart served time. Paris Hilton served more time than Libby >>> did. Do you think it just that Libby's sentence was commuted? We've seen what Prosecutors will do to get *"someone"* to the defendants chair.... I remember a North Carolina Prosecutors who railroaded three kids for RAPE. Remember the DUKE Lacrosse team? When stuck with a fizzling investigation, Libby's kept it alive until he found someone to prosecute.... I lost so much respect for police and prosecutors that, well - I give any case a 50/50 chance of being manufactured. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 14:20:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:20:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GW is not sunspots, solar cycle length, solar magnetic field, cosmic rays, or solar irradiance. References: <1184161533.836073.262700@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184175178.283630.65060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184175178.283630.65060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 11, 9:45 am, Roger Coppock wrote: > > "LONDON (Reuters) - The sun's changing energy levels are not to blame > for recent global warming and, if anything, solar variations over the > past 20 years should have had a cooling effect, scientists said on > Wednesday. > if the sun is cooling... won't plant life be less plush? And - Won't that cause more co2 since they're responsible for absorbing co2 and releasing oxygen? Then the co2 makes it warmer till the sun heats up and makes plants profuse and suck up the extra co2? "scientists said" HAHAhahahahh According to the laws of Global warming? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 15:17:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:17:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Global Warming Swindle slammed and now under investigation by TV watchdog References: <1184180611.942810.284740@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184180926.442970.301870@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184180926.442970.301870@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 11, 12:03 pm, xnich...@hotmail.com wrote: >> By Lucy Sherriff , The Register (extract) >> Published Wednesday 11th July 2007 07:02 GMT >> >> ".....That program was so bad it was almost fraudulent," Lockwood >> says. "[The subjects raised] made for a decent scientific debate 15 >> years ago, but the questions have since been settled." > > Well, it looks like the fossil fools will have to > try again to make a move that gets an Oscar. > An Oscar? I'd settle for one that gives the truth not great entertainment like a "B" grade disaster film from gore. "Twister" Was better than Al's Gore-ble Warming. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 15:29:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:29:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: AGW Skeptics a dwindling group References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Murphy wrote: > AGW Skeptics a dwindling group... > > "A dwindling group ... a small minority which is seeking to > DELIBERATELY confuse the public on the causes of climate > change. They often misrepresenting the science, when the > reality is that the evidence is getting stronger every day," > -- Royal Society > > NUTS, UENET TROLLS, FLAT EARTHERS, PAID LIARS, > and P.R. SHILLS FOR CORPORATIONS, THAT IS WHO THEY ARE > > > ============ > > it only takes one person to be right. How many professors were in that ad that called the Lacrosse players guilty? Oh'yeh, more than one. So running with the crowd doesn't make you any more right. Science isn't a democracy. It's a free State with equal rights. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 15:41:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:41:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: pass some laws already References: <9ppa9397v5g3o24lecclqu3b7811sl46fr@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <9ppa9397v5g3o24lecclqu3b7811sl46fr@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:20:16 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> Pass some Co2 global warming laws... and maybe then the government will >> have the right to cut the under brush fuel thats burning so well in the >> fires in the west > > That idea may earn a booby prize in a green movement, it > would make too much sense to build an incinerator-power plant near where > a lot of brush and dead trees are plentiful. > > Surely the selling of electricity from brush would pay for > the harvesting, maybe coal is still cheap, other fuels are now costing > about as much per pound as beef. > > > And the brush is renewable, the coal would *fuel* their co2 fantasy of global warming since it's releasing a semi-permanently locked Carbon. Makes'ya think? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 15:53:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:53:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: pass some laws already References: <9ppa9397v5g3o24lecclqu3b7811sl46fr@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:20:16 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >> wrote: >> >>> Pass some Co2 global warming laws... and maybe then the government >>> will have the right to cut the under brush fuel thats burning so well >>> in the fires in the west >> >> That idea may earn a booby prize in a green movement, it >> would make too much sense to build an incinerator-power plant near where >> a lot of brush and dead trees are plentiful. >> >> Surely the selling of electricity from brush would pay for >> the harvesting, maybe coal is still cheap, other fuels are now costing >> about as much per pound as beef. >> >> >> > And the brush is renewable, the coal would *fuel* their co2 fantasy of > global warming since it's releasing a semi-permanently locked Carbon. > > Makes'ya think They'll save an owl and kill the planet. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 16:14:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:14:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Green With Envy References: <1184168232.340129.96400@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184180501.398307.281420@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184180501.398307.281420@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >> They won't like the Tesla Roadster then either, even with 0 >> emissions. > > Don't you see. These cars pollute the environment with their toxic > batteries causing some yet unnamed disease. > >> http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/11543/2008-tesla-roadster.html > > Great low end torque on these hybrid cars. > > and if I were running the quarter mile, I'd have enough battery to get there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 16:34:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:34:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Sun's activity rules out link to global warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "Tim Murphy" wrote in message > news:yc9li.24344$%Z3.11015@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net... > > >> Things are looking pretty desperate for all you paid skeptics now. > > I want to be paid! Where do I sign up? > > If I can make as much as Al Gore, I'll swap teams... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 17:43:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:43:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GW is not sunspots, solar cycle length, solar magnetic field, cosmic rays, or solar irradiance. References: <1184161533.836073.262700@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <3u5li.46201$aP2.43377@newsfe16.lga> <1184188476.280338.100360@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184188476.280338.100360@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bill wrote: >>>> The rise in the global mean surface temperature since 1985 >> Is there a *Standard* used in measuring the Global mean temp and has it >> been the same fro the past 150 years? > > Well there's a resounding NO. there have been temperature > records kept that long, in specific rather sporadic locations with > poor record keeping. > The closest thing there is is the usgs/noaa grid, and that is > HIGHLY suspect due to recently discovered widespread siting issues. > Since that is what was used to calibrate all the other sources of > temperature data, and strongly influenced what data was suspect and > what data was taken as true, there really is very little data > indicating any recent term warming at all that is not suspect. On the > flip side, there's very little chance that dumping a few petatons of > co2 into the atmosphere could possibly fail to produce warming. > Do any of these sites use deep ocean temps? seeing as water fluctuates less and deeper places circulate less? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 18:45:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:45:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.greens Subject: Bush/CIA created the GLOBAL WARMING ALARM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bush's CIA created the Global warming intelligence, he did it to head the country into nuclear power. Just as he fooled you with the Weapons of mass Destruction. Conveniently the truth is that Nuclear won't make much co2 except building and manning it, one thing it will produce is steam or water vapor and heat. Now multiply it by all the nuke plants it'll take to produce the worlds electric. France with already 80% nuclear power produces how many pounds of water vapor into the air? *Water vapor is a green house gas*. Water vapor will still generate the greenhouse effect and may be a major contributor already. Gore without Co2 to fight, becomes a superhero without a nemesis. Bush wins!!!!!!!!!! Until someone computer models the water vapor theory that I introduced. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 18:56:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:56:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How AGW believers treat skeptics.... References: <4685874e$0$19128$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <-pGdncP5NNMnGhjbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183163259.202750.142800@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1184191066.758002.209610@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184191066.758002.209610@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Jun 29, 5:27 pm, john fernbach wrote: > > Robert Kennedy Junior stated that AGW denialists are guilty of > treason. Do you concur? > Yes they need to be jailed by The Peoples Republic of China right away. Oh... you mean he's not a Chinese citizen? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 18:58:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:58:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1184175571.786510.316580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Lloyd" wrote >> On Jul 11, 3:54 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >> wrote: >>> "Roger Coppock" wrote >>> >>>> Deniers of global warming harm us >>>> By JOEL CONNELLY >>>> Seattle Post-Intelligencer Columnist >>> Whine... whine... whine... >>> >>> We won't only harm you, we'll gonna kick those AGW liars to hell >>> with real science, not with this ridiculous jumble from IPCC. >> Your "real science" is of the sort that "the earth doesn't rotate." >> >> "Dwindling number" and "a small minority which is seeking to >> deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They >> are often misrepresenting the science." -- Royal Society >> >> Stick a fork in the denialists; they're done! > > Where is your point? I thought we were just getting "warmed up" hehehehehROTFL GW Jokes... Ain't life grand. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 19:13:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:13:25 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The sky is burnin, I believe my soul's on fire References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: The earth is getting more heat, the solar winds heat the earth, the earths magnetic field reflects the solar winds. BUT we've been seeing and predicting polar reversals and other problems with the magnetic fields. To start with, the *over the horizon radar* has long been suspect of interfering with the Northern lights. http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ Losing its protective magnetic envelope, the atmosphere would expand and become thinner, possibly leading to altitude sickness near sea level. No longer filtered out, deadly cosmic rays would kill most if, not all, living creatures on the surface. Only those living in deep caves would be safe. This scenario has prompted some to build underground bunkers in hopes of surviving. The sun reverses its magnetic field like clockwork every eleven years at the peak of the sunspot cycle. The next solar flip is due in 2012. South-pointing magnetic flux moves from sunspots, which are intense magnetic loops near the equator of the sun, along “meridional flows” to the north magnetic pole, and vice versa. As the oppositely-directed charge accumulates at the poles the field declines, until eventually the reverse charge predominates. From - Wed Jul 11 20:03:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:03:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The sky is burnin, I believe my soul's on fire References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "13th monkey" <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> wrote >> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The earth is getting more heat, the solar winds heat the earth, the >> earths magnetic field reflects the solar winds. >> >> BUT we've been seeing and predicting polar reversals and other problems >> with the magnetic fields. >> >> To start with, the *over the horizon radar* has long been suspect of >> interfering with the Northern lights. >> >> >> >> http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Losing its protective magnetic envelope, the atmosphere would expand and >> become thinner, possibly leading to altitude sickness near sea level. No >> longer filtered out, deadly cosmic rays would kill most if, not all, >> living creatures on the surface. Only those living in deep caves would >> be safe. This scenario has prompted some to build underground bunkers in >> hopes of surviving. > > Looked too much of the film "Absolute Zero" on TV? > > It has never dropped to zero. The change happens before a zero. > http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/hoffman.html > The time span for the reversal is about a few days. *It is not only the direction but also the strength of this magnetic field that is a concern. In the time of dinosaurs, at an estimated 2.5 gauss, it was eighty percent stronger than it is now. This may have been one of the reasons such gigantic life forms thrived. It is now accepted that a catastrophic event ended the reign of giant reptiles. However, they did not re-evolve to equivalent dimensions. And the disappearance of mammalian “mega-fauna” in more recent times is still considered to be a mystery. The mastodons and mammoths would have towered over modern elephants. Why are there so few large terrestrial animals today?* If the strength is more ore less, how will that effect cosmic rays and other related energy? More energy reaching the earth can cause additional warming. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 20:14:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:14:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How AGW believers treat skeptics.... References: <4685874e$0$19128$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <-pGdncP5NNMnGhjbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183163259.202750.142800@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1184191066.758002.209610@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184198372.375269.271310@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184198372.375269.271310@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 11, 5:57 pm, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> On Jun 29, 5:27 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> >> Robert Kennedy Junior stated that AGW denialists are guilty of >> treason. Do you concur? > > I'm not sure I believe you when you say that Robert Kennedy Jr. said > that. Partly because I think you're generally untrustworthy, partly > because it seems a remarkably stupid thing to say. > > RK Jr. may have used those words, of course: > > all kinds of people say all kinds of dumb things, and people on my > side are not immune from bad judgment. But I'm not taking your word > for it until I see it from some source I trust. Yes I watched a clip of him saying it, short of being photo-shopped Better than I can do, it was legitimate. The first amendment allows for free speech, the second makes sure that the government can't remove the first. Dumb is one thing, but dumber than Rosie O`donnell, that should be a crime. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 21:31:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:31:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <%86li.51786$Fo1.27770@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <0q7b93dbrc77fk3jiekdkidfu66onrfpjb@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <0q7b93dbrc77fk3jiekdkidfu66onrfpjb@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:53:16 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >>>> The congress already acted, it's called the Clean Air Act. Gives the >>>> executive branch the power to regulate any pollutant that is causing >>>> climate change. The Supreme Court recently upheld this interpretation >>>> of the act. >>> I'm not asking the supreme Court, I'm asking you, presumably a citizen >>> of the US. >>> >>> What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission >>> caps (vis-à-vis the Clean Air Act)? >> Since when is Carbon... dirty? > > It isn't carbon that is a pollutant, it is CO2, you know, > the stuff we breathe out when we breathe in air. > > > > yeh yeh yeh , Co2 same question, carbon as activated granules pull chlorine and other things from solutions, in fact they use it when pumping stomachs to absorb chems in the stomach. but either way, co2 and carbon are as dirty as water huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 21:37:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:37:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: How AGW believers treat skeptics.... References: <4685874e$0$19128$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <-pGdncP5NNMnGhjbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183163259.202750.142800@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1184191066.758002.209610@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184201019.920338.303420@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184202691.253589.267920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184202691.253589.267920@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Talkin Dog -- Is this the Robert Kennedy Jr. statement you're talking > about? The one I've posted below? > > Because I can't find any references to "treason" in it. Though the > man isn't very complimentary towards your > side. ;-) > >> ------------------------ >> >> On Jul 11, 6:56 pm, Talk- >> >>>> Robert Kennedy Junior stated that AGW denialists are guilty of >>>> treason. Do you concur? > ============================================================ > Published by the December 11, 2003 issue of Rolling Stone > Crimes Against Nature > by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. > Nope, check the Global warming concert stuff. He hammered Rush Limbaugh, shawn Hannity, and a list of others so try those names in the search. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 22:00:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:00:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.greens Subject: Re: Bush/CIA created the GLOBAL WARMING ALARM References: <1184200970.719706.61060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184200970.719706.61060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 11, 3:45 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > [ . . . ] >> France with already 80% nuclear power produces how many pounds of water >> vapor into the air? *Water vapor is a green house gas*. Water vapor will >> still generate the greenhouse effect and may be a major contributor already. > > Which has zero net forcing, because the water vapor > precipitates in a mater of a couple of days, without > building up increased concentrations. To really change > the climate, a greenhouse gas has to have staying power > so that concentrations of it can accumulate. France's > nukes aren't raising the global atmospheric water vapor > concentration. > Rain is a change, so everyone here and in Texas tells me. The *mean* global percentage of humidity will be up by at least a few percent. We can measure Global humidity can't we, like global temperature? Add Frances to China and the US electric needs. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 22:02:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:02:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Minus Five Degrees in Santiago, Chile References: <1184200679.035404.88480@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184200679.035404.88480@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit d.086@hotmail.com wrote: > http://www.plenglish.com/article.asp?ID=%7B2920412C-D5E2-4D68-961C-D1E47A6887D5%7D)&language=EN > > Minus Five Degrees in Santiago, Chile > > Santiago, Chile, Jul 11 (Prensa Latina) Temperature in Santiago > reached Wednesday almost five degrees Celsius below zero, a new > historic record, due to a cold spell from Argentina, which has already > claimed six lives. > > The Chilean Meteorology Direction registered 4.9 degrees Celsius below > zero in Santiago and its environment, surpassing 4.4 degrees recorded > Tuesday, the coldest day in 31 years. > > Although experts said the phenomenon is leaving the country, Chileans > from the country's central and south zone were astonished at snow in > places where it had never fallen before. > > Pilar Cereceda, professor from the Chilean Catholic University's > Geography Institute, stated that those extreme temperatures are not a > result of the global warning, but a part of what is happening with > weather in the world. > Do you think the South Pole is making ice today? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 22:06:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:06:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim Murphy wrote: > Wednesday July 11, 2007 > A spokesman for the Royal Society, the UK's leading scientific academy, > said: "This is an important contribution to the scientific debate on climate > change. At present there is a small minority which is seeking to > deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They are > often misrepresenting the science, when the reality is that the evidence is > getting stronger every day. We have reached a point where a failure to take > action to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions would be > irresponsible and dangerous." Don't you just hate it when we confuse the public by using facts.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 22:20:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:20:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: Climate extremes heat up References: <1184205333.840906.275160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184205333.840906.275160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Those of us who've watched the global warming issue > for longer than a couple of decades may remember > "Hansen's Dice." Well, score another one for Jim Hansen. > -- Roger > =-=-=-=-=-= > Jul 10, 2007 > Climate extremes hot up > > In the summer of 2003 Europe experienced an extreme heat wave that > caused a number of fatalities. Recent climate modelling indicates that > higher temperatures in summer are set to become more likely in the > Northern Hemisphere. > > "Hot summers are now much more common," said Gareth Jones of the UK's > Met Office, speaking at the IUGG meeting in Perugia, Italy. "The > current sharp rise in the incidence of hot summers is likely to > continue." Likely? More - common - indicates - likely - issue Lotto.... get your lotto modeling modeling software... gives likely winners... and indicates hot numbers... great numbers are common... run it again for more numbers. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 22:35:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:35:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: AGW Skeptics a dwindling group References: <1184181228.735243.203730@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184181730.957737.173690@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184204377.698945.260880@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184204377.698945.260880@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hbarwood wrote: > On Jul 12, 12:29 am, Whata Fool wrote: > >> Real scientists have no crystal balls. > > I know I'll regret this, but: What kind of balls do they have? > > HB > > ( x – a ) 2 + ( y – b ) 2 + ( z – c ) 2 = R 2 . -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Wed Jul 11 23:04:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:04:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming - Redeux.. References: <1183216185.733932.89580@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46868CAB.AA3DDD17@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <468FD111.7CBD1352@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <46956DCC.209AF15A@NOSPAMhotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46956DCC.209AF15A@NOSPAMhotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Lochner wrote: > "the_sag" wrote: > >> I liked the dinosaur-farts-did-it theory better. > > That sounds about like your mentality.. > > --It confirms the fact you're officially an idiot.. Don't mind him, just jealous he didn't come up with it. Methane, another greenhouse gas... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 00:52:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:52:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Why Would Anyone Think the Sun Would Heat the Planet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The sun obviously can't heat the earth.... *********************** Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud coverage and cosmic rays, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an indirect measure of the strength of galactic and solar cosmic rays. The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation coefficient is r = 0.95. Short-range variations in the intensity of cosmic rays, caused by energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The plot shows that strong cosmic rays go along with a larger cloud cover, whereas weak cosmic rays shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 ************************ I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that froze from 1980 to 1989.... I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 ********************** to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs centuries. This shows clearly to... ********************************* In Closing I'd like to say that it's completely crazy to believe that the sun has anything at all to do with Global Temperatures. We know every scientist agrees that there's a possibility that it might be a gas that no one can guarantee can really cause an effect that may or may not be able to change the entire globes temperature if theres enough but they don't have a absolute number that creates the rise that's assumed to maybe be occurring for a time period that they can't quite pin down but generally agree on and so most of them - more or less grouped together to loosely infer their consensus of the the situation. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 01:12:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:12:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Why Would Anyone Think the Sun Would Heat the Planet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The sun obviously can't heat the earth.... *********************** Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud coverage and cosmic rays, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an indirect measure of the strength of galactic and solar cosmic rays. The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation coefficient is r = 0.95. Short-range variations in the intensity of cosmic rays, caused by energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The plot shows that strong cosmic rays go along with a larger cloud cover, whereas weak cosmic rays shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 ************************ I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that froze from 1980 to 1989.... I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 ********************** to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs centuries. This shows clearly... ********************************* In Closing I'd like to say that it's completely crazy to believe that the sun has anything at all to do with Global Temperatures. We know almost every scientist agrees that there's a possibility that it might be a gas that no one can guarantee can really cause an effect that may or may not be able to change the entire globes temperature if theres enough but they don't have an absolute number that creates the rise that's assumed to maybe be occurring for a time period that they can't quite pin down but generally agree on and so most of them - more or less grouped together to loosely infer their consensus of the the situation. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 01:22:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:22:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Why Would Anyone Think the Sun Would Heat the Planet? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The sun obviously can't heat the earth.... *********************** Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud coverage and cosmic rays, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an indirect measure of the strength of galactic and solar cosmic rays. The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation coefficient is r = 0.95. Short-range variations in the intensity of cosmic rays, caused by energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The plot shows that strong cosmic rays go along with a larger cloud cover, whereas weak cosmic rays shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 ************************ I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that froze from 1980 to 1989.... I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 ********************** to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs centuries. This shows clearly... ********************************* In Closing I'd like to say that it's completely crazy to believe that the sun has anything at all to do with Global Temperatures. We know almost every scientist agrees that there's a possibility that it might be a gas that no one can guarantee can really cause an effect that may or may not be able to change the entire globes temperature if theres enough but they don't have a absolute number that creates the rise that's assumed to maybe be occurring for a time period that they can't quite pin down but generally agree on and so most of them - more or less grouped together to loosely infer their consensus of the the situation. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 10:25:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:25:11 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: The Magnetosphere, Cosmic Radiation,and Oranges Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud coverage and *cosmic rays*, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an indirect measure of the strength of galactic and *solar cosmic rays*. The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation coefficient is r = 0.95. Short-range variations in the intensity of *cosmic rays*, caused by energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The plot shows that strong *cosmic rays* go along with a larger cloud cover, whereas weak *cosmic rays* shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 ************************ I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that froze from 1980 to 1989.... I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 ********************** to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs centuries. This shows clearly... -END- ************************************ If the sun it's self is effecting Cloud cover via cosmic rays, What about the effect that the magnetic field has on the cosmic rays... Any way you look at it, the cosmic rays will effect the earth, or at least that's NASA's opinion, they point to the Magnetosphere as a major player. Others suggest communications satellites could also be effected. The cloud cover correlation that links cosmic rays to the weather and so called global warming isn't far fetched, I'm more inclined to believe that the sun causes warming than CO2, Warming isn't necessarily bad or human made or long term. ************************************* Scientists have been observing changes in the direction of earth's magnetic field which took place recently as well as in the distant past. NASA’s website features a map showing the gradual northward migration of the north magnetic pole in the past century and a half. Since more than double the time interval has elapsed since the last reversal, compared to the time lapse between the previous two pole reversals, some believe we may be overdue for the next north-south flip. (1,2) However, though the interval between reversals of the Earth’s magnetic field can be as short as 5,000 years, it can also be as long as 50 million years. There does not seem to be any logic or rule governing the planet’s behavior. Countering this frightening vision, NASA predicts that, rather than declining to zero gauss, the magnetic field would become disordered. Thus we might for short time have more than one north and south pole on the planet. This official scientific stance says that the magnetosphere which shields us from *cosmic radiation* would not entirely disappear either. Thus, while communications would be erratic and perhaps at times completely inactivated, humans would find ways to survive. However, there are dissenters in the ranks, pointing to the vast South Atlantic magnetic anomaly and radiation damage to satellites over that region attributed to weakening of the protective magnetosphere. (4) http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ From - Thu Jul 12 10:37:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:37:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Extreme Weather Is Now Normal Weather References: <1184249179.930666.269610@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184249179.930666.269610@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 9, 11:48 pm, B0nz0 wrote: >> As I listen to the morning news everyday I hear a long list of brutal >> extreme-weather events that have wrecked peoples lives in the last 24 >> hours. The really, really amazing thing is that many of these extreme >> events actually target the perpatraitors of extreme weather. Gulf oil >> platforms smashed to pieces, Hunter Valley coal towns submerged and the >> Victorian brown coal area all rowing down their main streets. Amazing >> isn't it? >> >> Bonzo >> >> "...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for anything >> except >> for having sex with men, for letting a few tenths of an inch erection >> excite us" >> Dr.D1ck L1ndzen, Professor of Meteorology MET and Member of the National >> Academy of Crossdressers" >> >> "What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the only >> thing >> we can say with certainly about a penis is that it is not always erect" >> Dr.D1ck L1ndzen, Professor of Meteorology MET and Member of the National >> Academy of Sciences >> >> [most of the current alarm over penis length is based on] "inherently >> untrustworthy erection models, similar to those that cannot accurately >> forecast >> an erection a week from now." Dr.D1ck L1ndzen, Professor of Meteorology >> MET >> and Member of the National Academy of Sciences > > If you only watch Jerry Springer, the extreme in childish human > behavior is the norm. If you only watch war movies and the military > news, the extreme in fighting and killing is the norm. If you only > watch Fox news, corruption and lies are the norm. If you only > watch..... well, you get the picture. > And if you only read this news group? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 10:43:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:43:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: OK Coppock prove I was penetrated by a Paraguayan Alpaca infront of 3000 cheering climate skeptics References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B0nz0 wrote: > Fact is Coppock I KNOW you cannot prove that I was penetrated by an alpaca > in front of 3000 cheering, climate skeptics at the 12th Annual Climate > Deniers Conference at Goose Bay Newfoundland in November 2003. You see > Roger, I happen to know that security confiscated all cameras and mobiles > at the door. That leaves you without a shred of evidence and my reputation > intact. > Is your reputation, being intact, a good thing? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 13:52:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:52:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Magnetosphere, Cosmic Radiation,and Oranges References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 13th monkey wrote: > > > Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are > characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen > have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century > [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated > English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results > elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar > influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. > http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm > > > > The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the > sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud > coverage and *cosmic rays*, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. > Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a > hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide > in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its > effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as > shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s > result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 > presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the > ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an > indirect measure of the strength of galactic and *solar cosmic rays*. > The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud > cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on > homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the > oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation > coefficient is > r = 0.95. > > Short-range variations in the intensity of *cosmic rays*, caused by > energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The > plot shows that strong *cosmic rays* go along with a larger cloud cover, > whereas weak *cosmic rays* shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud > coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 > > ************************ > I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that > froze from 1980 to 1989.... > I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 > ********************** > > to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to > observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], > clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and > Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling > effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by > about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this > order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon > dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go > beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by > solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for > which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs > centuries. This shows clearly... > -END- > > > > > > ************************************ > If the sun it's self is effecting Cloud cover via cosmic rays, What > about the effect that the magnetic field has on the cosmic rays... > Any way you look at it, the cosmic rays will effect the earth, or at > least that's NASA's opinion, they point to the Magnetosphere as a major > player. Others suggest communications satellites could also be effected. > > The cloud cover correlation that links cosmic rays to the weather and so > called global warming isn't far fetched, I'm more inclined to believe > that the sun causes warming than CO2, Warming isn't necessarily bad or > human made or long term. > > ************************************* > > > Scientists have been observing changes in the direction of earth's > magnetic field which took place recently as well as in the distant past. > NASA’s website features a map showing the gradual northward migration of > the north magnetic pole in the past century and a half. Since more than > double the time interval has elapsed since the last reversal, compared > to the time lapse between the previous two pole reversals, some believe > we may be overdue for the next north-south flip. (1,2) However, though > the interval between reversals of the Earth’s magnetic field can be as > short as 5,000 years, it can also be as long as 50 million years. There > does not seem to be any logic or rule governing the planet’s behavior. > > Countering this frightening vision, NASA predicts that, rather than > declining to zero gauss, the magnetic field would become disordered. > Thus we might for short time have more than one north and south pole on > the planet. This official scientific stance says that the magnetosphere > which shields us from *cosmic radiation* would not entirely disappear > either. Thus, while communications would be erratic and perhaps at times > completely inactivated, humans would find ways to survive. However, > there are dissenters in the ranks, pointing to the vast South Atlantic > magnetic anomaly and radiation damage to satellites over that region > attributed to weakening of the protective magnetosphere. (4) > http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ > > > And going to "clean" electric power could cause the magnetosphere to become more disrupted and irregular, causing the problems of extreme weather to continue or get worse. If the magnetosphere is uneven then you will get Some areas more cloudy and some less, meaning more rain or less and temperature is related to the cloud cover so the arctic might be warmer while other places become cooler. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 14:10:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:10:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. The effect on the magnetosphere might be causing cosmic rays to not be deflected and thus increasing cloud cover and cooling the planet in some areas while decreasing cloud cover and heating other areas. Add cell phones and just general use of RF/radio and micro wave and radar and Power transmission all together, what is the effect on the magnetic pole and the lines of dipole magnetic flux. China needs to build a new electric plant at a rate of one per month to keep up with their needs. "Consequently an electron current flow is produced and conditions are set up for the generation of current loops throughout the inner and outer core. ... magnetic fields are produced as a consequence, in accordance with the right hand rule of electromagnetic theory." (5) " > http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 14:34:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:34:44 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. The effect > on the magnetosphere might be causing cosmic rays to not be deflected > and thus increasing cloud cover and cooling the planet in some areas > while decreasing cloud cover and heating other areas. > > Add cell phones and just general use of RF/radio and micro wave and > radar and Power transmission all together, what is the effect on the > magnetic pole and the lines of dipole magnetic flux. > > China needs to build a new electric plant at a rate of one per month to > keep up with their needs. > > > > "Consequently an electron current flow is produced and conditions are > set up for the generation of current loops throughout the inner and > outer core. ... magnetic fields are produced as a consequence, in > accordance with the right hand rule of electromagnetic theory." (5) > " >> http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ >> > > > The National Space Weather Program, sponsored by the National Science Foundation, integrates research, models, and algorithms of geomagnetic and particle event disturbances. Eventually, we may be able to predict space weather much as we do terrestrial weather. In the interim, however, existing models, as well as monitoring of solar wind, GICs, and auroral zone currents, will provide information for the upcoming solar maximum beginning at the turn of the century. Data from many scientific disciplines must be integrated and information distributed before the next solar maximum—expected in the year 2000 to 2002—if we are to predict storm impacts and preserve reliable power system operation. A set of numerical models can accurately compute the electric fields induced in the Earth from the disturbed geomagnetic field and a map of the deep Earth conductivity. The induced current entering various points in a power network can then be determined from computed electric fields. The measured electric fields near Forbes, a major substation in northern Minnesota, and the measured induced currents flowing in the grounding points of transformers connected to two long transmission lines during a 30-minute period shows very good correlation. http://www.agu.org/sci_soc/eiskappenman.html#solar%20wind From - Thu Jul 12 15:06:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:06:12 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Magnetosphere, Cosmic Radiation,and Oranges References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 13th monkey wrote: > > > Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are > characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen > have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century > [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated > English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results > elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar > influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. > http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm > > > > The most convincing argument yet, supporting a strong impact of the > sun’s activity on climate change, is a direct connection between cloud > coverage and *cosmic rays*, discovered by H. Svensmark and E. > Friis-Christensen [111] in 1996. It is shown in Figure 6. Clouds have a > hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than carbon dioxide > in the atmosphere. Even if the atmosphere’s CO2 content doubled, its > effect would be cancelled out if the cloud cover expanded by 1%, as > shown by H. E. Landsberg [53]. Svensmark’s and Friis-Christensen’s > result is therefore of great importance. The thin curve in Figure 6 > presents the monthly mean counting rates of neutrons measured by the > ground-based monitor in Climax, Colorado (right scale). This is an > indirect measure of the strength of galactic and *solar cosmic rays*. > The thick curve plots the 12-month running average of the global cloud > cover expressed as change in percent (left scale). It is based on > homogeneous observations made by geostationary satellites over the > oceans. The two curves show a close correlation. The correlation > coefficient is > r = 0.95. > > Short-range variations in the intensity of *cosmic rays*, caused by > energetic solar eruptions, have the same effect, though shorter. The > plot shows that strong *cosmic rays* go along with a larger cloud cover, > whereas weak *cosmic rays* shrink the cloud cover. The global cloud > coverage diminished from its peak at the end of 1986 > > ************************ > I hate to break in here but you might remember the Orange groves that > froze from 1980 to 1989.... > I just noticed that the freeze of the `80s matches this solar data. > http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 > ********************** > > to its bottom in the middle of 1990 by more than 3%. According to > observations by V. Ramanathan, B. R. Barkstrom, and E. F. Harrison [91], > clouds have a net cooling effect of -17 W/m2 . Svensmark and > Friis-Christensen [111] conclude from the diminution of this cooling > effect between 1986 and 1990 that the solar irradiance has increased by > about 1.5 W/m2 within these three and a half years. A change of this > order is quite remarkable, since the total radiative forcing by carbon > dioxide accumulated since 1750 has been estimated by the IPCC not to go > beyond 1.5 W/m2 . This means that cosmic rays, strongly modulated by > solar activity, achieve an effect within three and a half years for > which the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere needs > centuries. This shows clearly... > -END- > > > > > > ************************************ > If the sun it's self is effecting Cloud cover via cosmic rays, What > about the effect that the magnetic field has on the cosmic rays... > Any way you look at it, the cosmic rays will effect the earth, or at > least that's NASA's opinion, they point to the Magnetosphere as a major > player. Others suggest communications satellites could also be effected. > > The cloud cover correlation that links cosmic rays to the weather and so > called global warming isn't far fetched, I'm more inclined to believe > that the sun causes warming than CO2, Warming isn't necessarily bad or > human made or long term. > > ************************************* > > > Scientists have been observing changes in the direction of earth's > magnetic field which took place recently as well as in the distant past. > NASA’s website features a map showing the gradual northward migration of > the north magnetic pole in the past century and a half. Since more than > double the time interval has elapsed since the last reversal, compared > to the time lapse between the previous two pole reversals, some believe > we may be overdue for the next north-south flip. (1,2) However, though > the interval between reversals of the Earth’s magnetic field can be as > short as 5,000 years, it can also be as long as 50 million years. There > does not seem to be any logic or rule governing the planet’s behavior. > > Countering this frightening vision, NASA predicts that, rather than > declining to zero gauss, the magnetic field would become disordered. > Thus we might for short time have more than one north and south pole on > the planet. This official scientific stance says that the magnetosphere > which shields us from *cosmic radiation* would not entirely disappear > either. Thus, while communications would be erratic and perhaps at times > completely inactivated, humans would find ways to survive. However, > there are dissenters in the ranks, pointing to the vast South Atlantic > magnetic anomaly and radiation damage to satellites over that region > attributed to weakening of the protective magnetosphere. (4) > http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ > > > n March 1989 residents of the Canadian city of Quebec got a taste of the Sun's disruptive potential. A magnetic storm in the Earth's atmosphere produced a small power surge in part of the city's electrical grid, which flipped a circuit breaker. This, in turn, caused another breaker to flip, and so on until the whole grid went down. As a result, local people went without power and heat for nine hours, the underground railway system and airport shut down, and schools and businesses were forced to close. http://cse.ssl.berkeley.edu/impact/news2006_art_solarexplosions.html *********************************************************** Power Grid info.... <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> PLHR strengths radiated from a spatially well defined electrical network. In-situ observations by satellites should allow a greater understanding of PLHR and its significance as man-made pollution to near- Earth space. While significant power penetrates the lower ionosphere, this is well below the reported threshold required for nonlinear triggering in the Van Allen radiation belts. Some radiated fields at satellite altitudes should be detectable, allowing insitu measurements. At the altitude of the DEMETER mission, the radiated electric fields will not be detectable under any ionospheric conditions. However, we find that the radiated magnetic fields may be detectable by the DEMETER satellite at certain times, although this will be very difficult. Nonetheless, there is the possibility for future experimental campaigns. The magnetic field will be totally undetectable during daytime conditions at realistic satellite altitudes. http://www.ann-geophys.net/23/2107/2005/angeo-23-2107-2005.pdf *********************************************************** So will the magnetic field of recent and larger power grids be measurable from space and will they effect our earths magnetic fields and thereby effect the cosmic rays that have been correlated to cloud cover? From - Thu Jul 12 15:22:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:22:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: New Zealand: Power use surges in south as cold bites References: <1184096716.585596.127270@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184100444.083179.223340@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184189176.206741.139800@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184267176.763934.324170@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184267176.763934.324170@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jul 11, 4:26 pm, Truth-monger wrote: >> On Jul 11, 2:58 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Truth-monger" wrote >>>> On Jul 10, 3:45 pm, d...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/southlandtimes/4123303a6568.html >>>>> Power use surges in south as cold bites >>>>> By TUANGANE MATANGI, and ANDREW DONNELY - The Southland Times | >>>>> Wednesday, 11 July 2007 >>>>> Power consumption has rocketed in the south as people turn up the >>>>> dials on heaters to cope with the cold snap gripping the region. >>>>> Chris Roberts, of Contact Energy, said power demand this week had been >>>>> high but had not yet topped the record demand set on June 28 when it >>>>> was 1133 megawatts for the Southland and Otago area. That was almost >>>>> half the whole South Island figure of 2332MW on that day. >>>>> Mass casualties from ice-related incidents eased yesterday. However, >>>>> at the emergency department at Southland Hospital about a dozen people >>>>> received treatment yesterday for injuries caused on Monday. >>>>> St John Ambulance bore the brunt of the bad weather transporting the >>>>> injured to hospital. >>>>> St John district operations manager Pauline Buchanan said there were >>>>> 62 call-outs in the Southland region on Monday, with 53 being weather >>>>> related. >>>>> Injuries ranged from minor to significant fractures and the St John >>>>> service was yesterday still transporting people injured on Monday. >>>>> An extra ambulance was put into operation to combat the workload in >>>>> Invercargill. >>>>> Senior Sergeant Brock Davis sad Invercargill police took Monday in >>>>> their stride. There were 22 calls on Monday in relation to motor >>>>> vehicle mishaps on the ice but roads were back to normal yesterday. >>>>> Invercargill Fire Service station officer Geoff Timpany reported >>>>> numerous false alarms on Monday, with other calls proving to be mostly >>>>> minor. >>>>> MetService weather ambassador Bob McDavitt yesterday said Southland >>>>> was in for warmer weather later in the week. >>>> ... we'll all die! >>> Of course, sometime, but not of global warming ^^ >> I know it, but I just love to taunt these enviro-nazis about their >> dopey drivel. They truly are communist by nature, trying to force >> their will on everyone. >> >> Oh, well maybe it's cold in New Zealand, but MUST CONSERVE ENERGY!! >> Use an extra blankey and save the earth! LoL- > > Just wait till the American people find out that Algore's plan is to > cut off their air conditioners to fight global warming. He'll be > looking for a rock to hide under maybe on some secluded island in the > southern hemisphere. > Just wait till they read the.... information about power grids effecting the Magnetic properties around them and into space. Funny part is, by using more power... the magnetic field will increase and might be causing an effect on cosmic rays that correlate to cloud cover... that then causes it to be colder. Both natural and man-made lowfrequency radio waves are important here, including wave sources located at the Earth’s surface and those in the space surrounding the Earth (Abel and Thorne, 1998). Examples of near-Earth sources are the strong radio pulses generated by lightning as well as transmissions from man-made communications stations. In these cases most of the wave’s energy is trapped between the Earth and the lower boundary of the ionosphere (Wait, 1996). A percentage of the wave energy penetrates the ionosphere and enters near-Earth space where it may interact with particles in the Van Allen belts. While the physical process through which the waves and particles interact is well understood (e.g. Tsurutani and Lakhina, 1997), there is significant uncertainty as to the relative importance of different wave sources in different spatial regions of the belts at different times and over different energy ranges (Walt, 1996). Essentially, the complexity of the system is such that it has proved extremely difficult to draw global conclusions from point-satellite measurements and case studies. http://www.ann-geophys.net/23/2107/2005/angeo-23-2107-2005.pdf -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 15:31:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:31:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184267785.097492.159360@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184267785.097492.159360@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 10, 3:01 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >> Tom wrote: >>> Good news: In 2000, we all voted for a Presidential candidate that >>> promised to work to cap carbon emissions if he were elected. >>> Bad news: Some of us voted for a liar. >> What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission >> caps? > > Interstate commerce -- CO2 travels across borders. "Provide for the > general welfare" also. Same as clean air and clean water acts. > International borders to... Co2 equals a weapon of mass destruction huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:07:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:07:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CWatters wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. > > Well at least it's original. > > How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have > a random orientation? > > You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any size near one another? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:10:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:10:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth: Dead on arrival References: <1184273361.707532.56370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184273361.707532.56370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/la-oe-goldberg10jul10,0,5069586.column?coll=la-util-opinion-sunday > > Live Earth: Dead on arrival > The global warming concerts were little more than a marketing stunt > for aging stars desperate for a stage. > July 10, 2007 > > > 'IF YOU WANT to save the planet, I want you to start jumping up and > down. Come on, mother-[bleepers]!" Madonna railed from the stage at > London's Live Earth concert Saturday. "If you want to save the planet, > let me see you jump!" I have to admit... I do this all the time... I like watching the girls on trampolines on the man show too. I'm like a dog watching someone open his can of dog food. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:13:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:13:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CWatters wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. > > Well at least it's original. > > How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have > a random orientation? > > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:29:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:29:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Bush science? References: <1184270339.428792.258780@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184272503.636149.176370@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184273929.447258.184850@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184273929.447258.184850@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hbarwood wrote: > On Jul 12, 3:35 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Jul 12, 2:58 pm, hbarwood wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Consider this from testimony by former Surgeon General Dr. Richard H. >>> Carmona (as reported by CNN): >>> During his testimony, Dr. Carmona stated that he was initially so >>> politically naive that he had little idea how inappropriate the >>> administrations actions were. After a time he consulted six previous >>> surgeons general, both Republican and Democratic, and all agreed with >>> Carmona that he had faced more political interference than they had, >>> he said. The administration continually made decisions on important >>> public state issues based solely on political considerations, not >>> scientific ones. Said Carmona, "I was told to stay away from those >>> because we've already decided which way we want to go." One such issue >>> was global warming. Carmona reports that he attended a meeting of top >>> officials about the issue, and it was concluded that global warming >>> was a liberal cause and dismissed. "And I said to myself, 'I realize >>> why I've been invited. They want me to discuss the science because >>> they obviously don't understand the science,'" he said. "I was never >>> invited back." >>> OK, all you AGW proponents, tell me again how pure your side is, and >>> how your viewpoint is not political, but "scientific". >>> HB >> Who the hell equates Bush and "our side"? Other than you left-wing >> dimbats. >> >> Our side is made up of science minded individuals. Your side are left >> wing environmental activists, computer modelling geeks and Al Gore.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Congratulations! You win the first responder award for the AGW > movement. Do you get paid by the post, or are you on retainer? > > HB > You can send me some money and I'll argue all the facts for Global warming... The posts will be short since there are so few but... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:31:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:31:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Hurricane predictions fizzle? References: <1184275668.446277.98260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184275668.446277.98260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/current-names.htm > > As of July 12, 2007 > > 2007 Atlantic, Caribbean Sea, Gulf of Mexico names > > Names Dates Top winds > ST.S. Andrea May 9-11 45 mph > T.S. Barry June 1 -2 50 mph > > end of report > Should have named the first one Al -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:39:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:39:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>> a random orientation? >>> >>> >> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >> size near one another? > > Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? > As a matter of fact... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:47:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:47:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>> a random orientation? >>> >>> >> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >> size near one another? > > Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? > Throw down some steel shavings and watch the directions they point as you move the magnets or electromagnets near one another. Simple and informative. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 17:49:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:49:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1184276387.530702.137840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184276387.530702.137840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Puppet_Sock wrote: > On Jul 12, 5:07 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>> a random orientation? >> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >> size near one another? > > I have. But it isn't relevant. The magnetic fields from the grid > are AC. And they are quite low frequency and low energy. > They won't be pushing cosmic rays much at all, and won't > be doing it with any particular direction predominating. > Socks > > Will they change the earths magneto sphere? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 18:02:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:02:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1184276387.530702.137840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184276387.530702.137840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Puppet_Sock wrote: > On Jul 12, 5:07 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>> a random orientation? >> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >> size near one another? > > I have. But it isn't relevant. The magnetic fields from the grid > are AC. And they are quite low frequency and low energy. > They won't be pushing cosmic rays much at all, and won't > be doing it with any particular direction predominating. > Socks > > All they have to do is interfere with the normal magnetosphere, if you read the URL info, you'd see that it is measured in and beyond the ionosphere. It may be low intensity but it deserves additional scrutiny. Since it also explains localized weather problems, where as CO2 does not. Just the absence of a magnetosphere would be devastating so minor rifts in it could be enough to effect cloud formations. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 19:08:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:08:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <34fb93pijlvsl2ne074o6peagd48gnamm4@4ax.com> <9iod93tbs8eh3nkdk5gedt3pfr0ftmo888@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <9iod93tbs8eh3nkdk5gedt3pfr0ftmo888@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:34:50 -0700, Peter Franks wrote: > >> I'm not convinced that the Clean Air Act is Constitutionally sound, from >> the people's perspective. > > I don't believe any group or country has a right to control > the whole Earth except by unanimous agreement, but any government should > have a right to control emissions that travel across state lines. > > Carbon caps would cover vehicle emissions in some way, > there isn't a much better carbon cap on gasoline than the present price. > > But putting a cap on individual businesses by any method > of rationing their gas meter or coal or oil deliveries, or electric > meter will only place a hardship on the businesses that don't have the > profits to get around the caps by a number of easy ways to use money to > get all the energy they want. > > It sounds like a big black market bonanza. > > > I said a long time ago that you'd need a license to breath someday... So they'll use the same act to stop people from traveling, under the guise that the air in your lungs has co2 from one state and is being smuggled across state lines. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 22:50:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:50:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Magnetosphere, Cosmic Radiation,and Oranges References: <4696814b$0$4919$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <4696814b$0$4919$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W. D. Allen wrote: > "...Clouds have a hundred times stronger effect on weather and climate than > carbon dioxide > in the atmosphere...." > > And clouds are the most difficult issue in modeling global warming effects. > Nevertheless, we are continually stampeded by such intellectual giants as Al > Gore and Roger Coppock to make multi-trillion dollar decisions based on > those irrelevant models. > > WDA > > end > Come on now, The X-box Global warming *game* that's certified by Al Gore has all the information needed and never locks up..... But I can't get past level two, I'm fighting my way through the concert and when I try to slam the Kennedy monster, he uses an ORAL weapon and causes a co2 spike that melts the planet. > "13th monkey" <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> wrote in message > news:iRqli.10297$ca.5803@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> >> Short cycles generate high sunspot maxima, wheras long cycles are >> characterized by weaker sunspot activity. Friis-Christensen and Lassen >> have shown that the close correlation extends back to the 16th century >> [68]. C. J. Butler [10] corroborated these results when he investigated >> English temperature data since 1796. Together with the results >> elaborated by Labitzke and van Loon this is an indication that the solar >> influence on climate is considerably stronger than IPCC scientists assume. >> http://www.john-daly.com/solar/solar.htm >> -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 23:02:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:02:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming References: <6ind939c455u3tv76sukchk7dlar9d025h@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <6ind939c455u3tv76sukchk7dlar9d025h@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:06:21 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> Tim Murphy wrote: >>> Wednesday July 11, 2007 >>> A spokesman for the Royal Society, the UK's leading scientific academy, >>> said: "This is an important contribution to the scientific debate on climate >>> change. At present there is a small minority which is seeking to >>> deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They are >>> often misrepresenting the science, when the reality is that the evidence is >>> getting stronger every day. We have reached a point where a failure to take >>> action to reduce carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions would be >>> irresponsible and dangerous." >> Don't you just hate it when we confuse the public by using facts.... > > Who is Tim Murphy? Your sarcasm does not seem to demand > more information from a person who predicts doom if we don't surrender > to demands of unacceptable sacrifice that will cause discomfort, > boredom, and possible health hazards if we turn the thermostat down too > much. > > I am beginning to think the whole global warming scam is an > effort to get people to quit driving, stay home and bundle up, and watch > cheap British movies on pay per view. > > > Are you peeking in my window again? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Thu Jul 12 23:16:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:16:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <0Qwli.10331$ca.6006@bignews4.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > Magnet companies will soon run out of magnet to sell. They are trying > to make sythetic magnets so as to keep in business. One scientist said > that once the amount of fake magnets on earth exceeds 10 Million tons > that the magnetic pole of earth would just go random and switch every > couple of years. He says this could cause a warm area with crops to > suddenly go into nuclear winter type conditions. This would cause > death beyond beliefs. > > The magnet corporations lobby congress to stop research into this, we > should stop them people soon. > I already knew that, These guys are a cabal, a bunch of rich magnet Magnates. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 00:59:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:59:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>> a random orientation? >>> >>> >> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >> size near one another? > > Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? > Magniflux a cracked engine block. degauss a TV or Floppy disk -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:10:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:10:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: HAte crimes Against CORPORATIONS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the Liberals seem to need to bash the Oil companies and the Big Corporations that they say waste and burn fossil fuel, then why don't the CORPORATE studio, Special effects and FILM makers use less *fossil fuel* to make movies like Micheal Moore and Al Gore with their movies that use wasteful amounts of energy. Why don't these *CORPORATE* rock stars who waste energy on their road tours cut their footprints. HATE IS HATE -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:18:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:18:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <4696ff84$0$3573$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net> In-Reply-To: <4696ff84$0$3573$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron O'Neal wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. The effect >> on the magnetosphere might be causing cosmic rays to not be deflected >> and thus increasing cloud cover and cooling the planet in some areas >> while decreasing cloud cover and heating other areas. >> >> Add cell phones and just general use of RF/radio and micro wave and >> radar and Power transmission all together, what is the effect on the >> magnetic pole and the lines of dipole magnetic flux. >> >> China needs to build a new electric plant at a rate of one per month to >> keep up with their needs. >> >> >> >> "Consequently an electron current flow is produced and conditions are >> set up for the generation of current loops throughout the inner and >> outer core. ... magnetic fields are produced as a consequence, in >> accordance with the right hand rule of electromagnetic theory." (5) >> " > http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005/02/27/6900064_Magnet_Pole_Shift/ > > > Some of the worst Techno-Babble I've heard in a long time. > > RO > > > Don't get out much huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:21:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:20:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> CWatters wrote: >>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>>>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>>>> Well at least it's original. >>>>> >>>>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>>>> a random orientation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >>>> size near one another? >>> Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? >>> >> Throw down some steel shavings and watch the directions they point as >> you move the magnets or electromagnets near one another. Simple and >> informative. > > Which direction do the steel shavings point in a random collection > of AC fields? > In a different direction than if there were no random AC fields. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:21:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:21:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <34fb93pijlvsl2ne074o6peagd48gnamm4@4ax.com> <9iod93tbs8eh3nkdk5gedt3pfr0ftmo888@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:33:21 -0900, Whata Fool wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:34:50 -0700, Peter Franks wrote: >> >>> I'm not convinced that the Clean Air Act is Constitutionally sound, from >>> the people's perspective. >> I don't believe any group or country has a right to control >> the whole Earth except by unanimous agreement, but any government should >> have a right to control emissions that travel across state lines. >> >> Carbon caps would cover vehicle emissions in some way, >> there isn't a much better carbon cap on gasoline than the present price. >> >> But putting a cap on individual businesses by any method >> of rationing their gas meter or coal or oil deliveries, or electric meter >> will only place a hardship on the businesses that don't have the profits >> to get around the caps by a number of easy ways to use money to get all >> the energy they want. >> >> It sounds like a big black market bonanza. > > The "carbon for food scandal". I can see it now. Al could play the part > of Kofi in the movie. > your on a roll... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:30:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:30:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <4696b02f$0$1593$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> In-Reply-To: <4696b02f$0$1593$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CWatters wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >> CWatters wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>> Well at least it's original. >>> >>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices > have >>> a random orientation? >>> >>> >> You tell me how they can`NOT... > > Errr because random averages to zero. > > Unless random isn't random enough to really be random, how much random does it take to make random? Put it in your computer model and see if the Grid is truly random, because - if government tried to make it random, those idiots would have to make a plan to do it. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 01:32:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:32:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Hurricane predictions fizzle? References: <1184275668.446277.98260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:27:48 -0700, Tunderbar > wrote: > >> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurricane/current-names.htm >> >> As of July 12, 2007 >> >> 2007 Atlantic, Caribbean Sea, Gulf of Mexico names >> >> Names Dates Top winds >> ST.S. Andrea May 9-11 45 mph >> T.S. Barry June 1 -2 50 mph >> >> end of report > > When does/did hurricane season start? > > > > Do you want that in GLOBAL WARMING years or doggie years. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... From - Fri Jul 13 09:19:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:19:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1184332006.305629.20580@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184332006.305629.20580@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BradGuth wrote: > On Jun 30, 7:43 am, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) wrote: >> For an interesting description of the Bush Administration's covert >> campaign against the science of climate change, see this article: >> >> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/15148655/the_secret_campaign_ >> of_president_bushs_administration_to_deny_global_warming/print >> >> It's a lot worse than I thought... >> >> -- >> Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-) >> -------------------------------------------------------------- > > "The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming" > > Is the ongoing denials of faith-based puppeteering a "secret"? > > Is the MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA swarm collective of status quo naysayism a > "secret"? > > What department or agency of government is actually capable of telling > us the truth? > - > Brad Guth > Apparently the same one with the ability to KEEP A SECRET -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 09:39:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:39:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <0Qwli.10331$ca.6006@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <829e93huc023q1m71s5iqlett0i2cijd4u@bbb.org> In-Reply-To: <829e93huc023q1m71s5iqlett0i2cijd4u@bbb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:16:50 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > sayd the following: > >> Crackles McFarly wrote: >>> Magnet companies will soon run out of magnet to sell. They are trying >>> to make sythetic magnets so as to keep in business. One scientist said >>> that once the amount of fake magnets on earth exceeds 10 Million tons >>> that the magnetic pole of earth would just go random and switch every >>> couple of years. He says this could cause a warm area with crops to >>> suddenly go into nuclear winter type conditions. This would cause >>> death beyond beliefs. >>> >>> The magnet corporations lobby congress to stop research into this, we >>> should stop them people soon. >>> >> I already knew that, These guys are a cabal, a bunch of rich magnet >> Magnates. > > > We need to form some kind of group and stop these bastards. > Try the Al Gore HOT LINE.... They'll fly right over and hold a concert on your front lawn.... Ask him to bring Micheal Moore, he's worth all the extra fuel it takes believe me. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 09:53:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:53:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming References: <6ind939c455u3tv76sukchk7dlar9d025h@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:06:21 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >> wrote: >> >>> Tim Murphy wrote: >>>> Wednesday July 11, 2007 >>>> A spokesman for the Royal Society, the UK's leading scientific >>>> academy, said: "This is an important contribution to the scientific >>>> debate on climate change. At present there is a small minority which >>>> is seeking to deliberately confuse the public on the causes of >>>> climate change. They are often misrepresenting the science, when the >>>> reality is that the evidence is getting stronger every day. We have >>>> reached a point where a failure to take action to reduce carbon >>>> dioxide and other greenhouse gas emissions would be irresponsible >>>> and dangerous." >>> Don't you just hate it when we confuse the public by using facts.... >> >> Who is Tim Murphy? Your sarcasm does not seem to demand >> more information from a person who predicts doom if we don't surrender >> to demands of unacceptable sacrifice that will cause discomfort, >> boredom, and possible health hazards if we turn the thermostat down too >> much. >> >> I am beginning to think the whole global warming scam is an >> effort to get people to quit driving, stay home and bundle up, and watch >> cheap British movies on pay per view. >> >> >> > > > Are you peeking in my window again? > Sarcasm? "I'm talk-n-dog", once called by someone, the king of sarcasm, I told them it was more of a religion. Guess I'd be the Pope. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:09:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:09:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:10:09 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > sayd the following: > >> Add cell phones and just general use of RF/radio and micro wave and >> radar and Power transmission all together, what is the effect on the >> magnetic pole and the lines of dipole magnetic flux. > > This is very truthful statements. I did a test and made a call with my > cell phone. Sure enough my ear got more hotter and the room seemed > hotter also. This is ignored because the big cell phone corporations > lobby congress to stop research into the cell phone global warming > connections. When you open al gore's books and read them it cools the > room a little, it's the truth going into the room. The truth corrects > nature. Calling 900 numbers and inserting the phone where the sun don't shine has to be just a few of the flaws in your experiment. When you opened Al Gores book... everything fell asleep in the room and the lower burn rate of BTU's lowered the temp. Leave the room imediately.... You have an elevated co2 level in there, your now in a HURRICANE WATCH area, it may get hot(or cold were not sure) it may also rain(or it may not) due to the elevated co2. We have alerted FEMA and the Al Gore concert team. It was a good test, you simply misread the data. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:11:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:11:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > > [...] > >> Which direction do the steel shavings point in a random collection >> of AC fields? > > Ummm, towards the sacrificial virgin? > > Cheers, > > Rich > According to the poll we took, there are no virgins, so yes that's the correct direction. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:16:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:16:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>> In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> CWatters wrote: >>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>>>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>>>> Well at least it's original. >>>>> >>>>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other devices have >>>>> a random orientation? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of any >>>> size near one another? >>> Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? >>> >> Throw down some steel shavings and watch the directions they point as >> you move the magnets or electromagnets near one another. Simple and >> informative. > > Which direction do the steel shavings point in a random collection > of AC fields? > You coil the 750kv line and toss the steel shavings then throw the switch. Let me know if you've seen the light? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:36:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:36:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: It's not the sun, stupid! References: <1184197186.413727.145070@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184312799.825195.58030@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184312799.825195.58030@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit seemysig@googlemail.com wrote: > On Jul 12, 11:00 pm, Lone Ranger > wrote or quoted: > >>> Recently, an analysis of ice >>> cores from the Antarctic ice cap (2) have shown that over the last >>> half million years, there have been sudden and repetitive powerful >>> surges of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere about every 100,000 >>> years, with rapid de-glaciation, followed then by re-glaciation in >>> long cooling periods. We now are at the latest of these peaks, which >>> terminated the last ice age and raised sea levels about 400 feet. > > We are still in an 'ice age' - as evidenced by the low global > temperature > and the huge ice caps. > > This is what is known as an 'interglacial warm period'. > > Without our intervention, the glaciers will be back to decimate the > northern hemisphere shortly - as has happened over 20 times in > the recent past. > -- > __________ > |im |yler http://timtyler.org/ tim@tt1lock.org Remove lock to > reply. > Why would you think that Ice caps indicate a cold planet in the midst of an ice age? Bold statement.... Isn't ice age, reserved for when we see equatorial Ice burgs? If it were the case and to marrow morning we awake to ice burgs on the equator Would we start burning fossil fuels to raise the Co2 and warm the planet? What ___ age... will it be when coconut palms grow at the north pole? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:38:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:38:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Can we say 'average of many samples?' I knew you could! References: <1184202179.371112.217780@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184204153.160255.222290@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184308758.273491.121140@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote >> On Jul 12, 7:02 pm, Whata Fool wrote: >>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:35:53 -0700, Roger Coppock >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This glacier article is the dumbest post this month >>>> so far. I have to step in here, I posted plenty of dumb posts.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 10:58:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:58:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How AGW believers treat skeptics.... References: <4685874e$0$19128$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <-pGdncP5NNMnGhjbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183163259.202750.142800@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1184200796.368379.91060@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184292019.147486.27390@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184338294.439229.261260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184338294.439229.261260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > To Rich - or anyone else who's still following this string - my > apologies for the numerous typos in my preceding post. > > I was trying to respond to Rich's text point by point, instead of > ignoring it (as he'd complained about before), and I therefore ended > up taking about 90 minutes to write a long post that I originally > thought would take me about 15 minutes. Ignoring someone is a response. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 11:20:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:20:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1184332006.305629.20580@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <5_Kli.3257$O9.988@bignews6.bellsouth.net> <1184334492.830403.225300@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184334492.830403.225300@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit BradGuth wrote: > On Jul 13, 6:19 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> BradGuth wrote: >>> On Jun 30, 7:43 am, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) wrote: >>>> For an interesting description of the Bush Administration's covert >>>> campaign against the science of climate change, see this article: >>>> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/15148655/the_secret_campaign_ >>>> of_president_bushs_administration_to_deny_global_warming/print >>>> It's a lot worse than I thought... >>>> -- >>>> Eric Swanson --- E-mail address: e_swanson(at)skybest.com :-) >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> "The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming" >>> Is the ongoing denials of faith-based puppeteering a "secret"? >>> Is the MI5/NSA/CIA~NASA swarm collective of status quo naysayism a >>> "secret"? >>> What department or agency of government is actually capable of telling >>> us the truth? >>> - >>> Brad Guth >> Apparently the same one with the ability to KEEP A SECRET > > > But did you ever think to try adding or having excluded the moon from > your GW model program? (no one else has bothered, so do you think > that's right?) > - > Brad Guth > The moon? That handles womens cycles not the weather....Why on earth would you try to complicate a subject that we have decided is so simple, it's just co2. We can fix the CO2 so it's a disaster scenario that we can say is solved when everyone gets tired of it. If it's in the celestial realm then we can't fix it and therefore it can't easily be manipulated for profit. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 11:36:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:36:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming in France?? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Paul E. Lehmann wrote: > A post from the alt.food.wine newsgroup > > ============================================ > > Yes and people should not reply, it is one thing > to be polemic but > another to rejoice about people's misfortunes > based on some arbitrary > national difference. > > === > > I might mention that this summer is definitely the > coldest I can > remember in France (I have beeen here 18 years). > Here on the Var coast > the sea is at 17°C, about 6-8° below normal, with > daytime air > temperatures rarely above 25°C and evenings > dipping below 18°C... > > While this is accompanied by sunshine and wind > over here, everywhere > else in France temperatures are much lower and > there are many storms, > including lots of hail. > > Champagne weather is comparable to autumnmn with > dark skies and cold > temperatures. > > Bordeaux has experienced hailstorms that have > destroyed most of the > grapes in many areas. > > It has snowed heavily in the Alps, and some > mountain passes in Austria > required having chains. > > The French didn't get the MEMO... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § From - Fri Jul 13 11:54:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:54:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184340557.589174.252720@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184340557.589174.252720@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 13, 10:06 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Things we can all do to stop global warming >> By Naomi Oreskes, July 13, 2007 >> { Dr. Oreskes is known for her survey of the scientific literature >> on global warming, which found that the abstracts of 928 of 928 >> scientific papers did not challenge global warming. Please see:http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >> -- Roger } >> >> [ . . . ] >> >> Yet, there is a lot we can do in our everyday lives. Most of these >> things are easy, and some of them can save you money, too. >> >> Here are 10 things we can do to stop global warming. 1. I will NOT FLY all over the world in my JET 2. I'll turn down the EXTRA five air conditioners in my 30,000 square foot mansions. 3. I'll let the LIMO driver sweat while I'm in the Air conditioning at my Oscar ceremony. 4. I'll spend way too much money on my 5th car by buying a Hybrid that will wear out faster and need to be replaced sooner and create more co2 and pollutants than the others. 5. I will attend concerts with huge numbers of other co2 polluters and collect huge ticket reciepts and call for the imprisonment of anyone that won't live as I dictate. 6.....go ahead have fun. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 12:00:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:00:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: I thank god that my life doesn't depend on short term weather forecasts References: <1184338888.286214.246200@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184338888.286214.246200@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tunderbar wrote: > I'm going to a wedding Saturday. The ceremony is going to be outside. > Been watching the weather forecast closely. > > On Wednesday they said sunny skies from wednesday thru to next monday, > temps of around 22 C til friday and 25 C on saturday and 26 C for > sunday. > > On Thursday, they said rain and chance of thunder-showers friday. > Still projecting sunny for sat and sunday. > > On Friday, today, they say rain for sat morning, stopping by noon and > 30% chance of rain in the morning. Variable cloudiness for sunday. > > So much for computer models and predicting anything. > You just misunderstood the data.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 12:36:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:36:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: The Electrical GRID causing Global Warming References: <46969412$0$1587$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <2Kwli.52047$Fo1.46304@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7ajim4-rb4.ln1@mail.specsol.com> <14rim4-adn.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >> In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: >>>> In sci.physics Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>> CWatters wrote: >>>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>>>>> news:t7uli.24203$3a.12023@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>>>>> The electric grid is causing a magnetic effect on the earth. >>>>>> Well at least it's original. >>>>>> >>>>>> How can it have an effect if the field from the grid and other >>>>>> devices have >>>>>> a random orientation? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> You tell me how they can`NOT... have you ever held two magnets of >>>>> any size near one another? >>>> Have you ever held a whole bunch of AC electromagnets near one another? >>>> >>> Throw down some steel shavings and watch the directions they point as >>> you move the magnets or electromagnets near one another. Simple and >>> informative. >> >> Which direction do the steel shavings point in a random collection >> of AC fields? >> > You coil the 750kv line and toss the steel shavings then throw the > switch. Let me know if you've seen the light? > The hair on my arms knew which way to move when I was in a bucket. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 13:07:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:07:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Vandar wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: > >> Things we can all do to stop global warming >> By Naomi Oreskes, July 13, 2007 >> { Dr. Oreskes is known for her survey of the scientific literature >> on global warming, which found that the abstracts of 928 of 928 >> scientific papers did not challenge global warming. Please see: >> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >> -- Roger } >> >> [ . . . ] >> >> Yet, there is a lot we can do in our everyday lives. Most of these >> things are easy, and some of them can save you money, too. >> >> Here are 10 things we can do to stop global warming. >> >> Teach your children the truth about global warming. And how to stay poor and grovel at the feet of Al Gore while he increases his wealth that he was given? > > You mean truth like "there is no evidence that man has any effect on > so-called warming"? > No he means hunting down dogs, rabbits and eagles to eat. So that we can cut out the Co2 middle man. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 14:08:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:08:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184267785.097492.159360@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Franks wrote: > Lloyd wrote: >> On Jul 10, 3:01 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >> >>> Tom wrote: >>> >>>> Good news: In 2000, we all voted for a Presidential candidate that >>>> promised to work to cap carbon emissions if he were elected. >>> >>>> Bad news: Some of us voted for a liar. >>> >>> What is the legitimate Constitutional basis for federal carbon emission >>> caps? >> >> Interstate commerce -- CO2 travels across borders. > > CO2 emission isn't commerce. > good point, it's not pollution either, or you'd have to declare Hydrogen and Oxygen as pollutants also, along with the rest of the elements. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 14:13:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:13:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <1184092977.274912.57100@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <34fb93pijlvsl2ne074o6peagd48gnamm4@4ax.com> <9iod93tbs8eh3nkdk5gedt3pfr0ftmo888@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Franks wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:34:50 -0700, Peter Franks wrote: >> >> >>> I'm not convinced that the Clean Air Act is Constitutionally sound, >>> from the people's perspective. >> >> I don't believe any group or country has a right to control >> the whole Earth except by unanimous agreement, but any government should >> have a right to control emissions that travel across state lines. > > 1) Governments don't have rights. They have powers. > They have guns and dungeons and gallows. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 14:20:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:20:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Vandar wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> >>>> Things we can all do to stop global warming >>>> By Naomi Oreskes, July 13, 2007 >>>> { Dr. Oreskes is known for her survey of the scientific literature >>>> on global warming, which found that the abstracts of 928 of 928 >>>> scientific papers did not challenge global warming. Please see: >>>> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >>>> -- Roger } >>>> >>>> [ . . . ] >>>> >>>> Yet, there is a lot we can do in our everyday lives. Most of these >>>> things are easy, and some of them can save you money, too. >>>> >>>> Here are 10 things we can do to stop global warming. >>>> >>>> Teach your children the truth about global warming. >> And how to stay poor and grovel at the feet of Al Gore while he >> increases his wealth that he was given? >>> >>> You mean truth like "there is no evidence that man has any effect on >>> so-called warming"? >>> >> >> No he means hunting down dogs, rabbits and eagles to eat. So that we >> can cut out the Co2 middle man. > > Surely not talking dogs? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > catch me if you can -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 14:23:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:23:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming advocates rely more on faith than fact References: <1184335878.212395.170680@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184348126.662605.236640@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184348126.662605.236640@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 13, 10:11 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2007/07/12/O... >> >> Hot Air >> Global warming advocates rely more on faith than fact, says David >> Morris >> By: David Morris > > I'll take your right-wing shill and raise you the Royal Society: > > "A dwindling group ... a small minority which is seeking to > deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They > are often misrepresenting the science, when the reality is that the > evidence is getting stronger every day" -- Royal Society > > Don't you just hate it when a small minority confuse the public by informing them of the facts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 15:09:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:09:13 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: I thank god that my life doesn't depend on References: <1184338888.286214.246200@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> I'm going to a wedding Saturday. The ceremony is going to be outside. >>> Been watching the weather forecast closely. >>> >>> On Wednesday they said sunny skies from wednesday thru to next monday, >>> temps of around 22 C til friday and 25 C on saturday and 26 C for >>> sunday. >>> >>> On Thursday, they said rain and chance of thunder-showers friday. >>> Still projecting sunny for sat and sunday. >>> >>> On Friday, today, they say rain for sat morning, stopping by noon and >>> 30% chance of rain in the morning. Variable cloudiness for sunday. >>> >>> So much for computer models and predicting anything. >>> >> You just misunderstood the data.... > > The models work quite correct. > They predict rain, sun, rain, thunderstorm, sun...errhh... no, rain, > clouds.. erghh... no rain, fog maybe, some rain again... or so... You need to visit a re-education center. The report was for Widely scattered Global Warming with co2 clouds. From - Fri Jul 13 17:50:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:50:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How Strongly Does the Sun Influence the Global Climate? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > > > What happens when new research contradicts previous research, as is > clearly the case with > the sun influencing weather on earth? Now in my mind, this fundamentally > calls both into > question, you cannot automatically invalidate an established body of > work. That is, you > The article was OK till the BOZO hit the summation.... He tells all about the effects the cosmic rays have, then he "threw out the baby with the bath water" Why is it that it needs to be green house gases, when he just described another whole theory. Maybe the (receiving) part of the cosmic rays are the problem, maybe the cosmic rays are being blocked or distorted by earth, because the magnetosphere which appears to shield us from being annihilated by cosmic rays - is being naturally or artificially compromised. If so then fewer clouds and warmer weather and droughts would be a possible symptom. He only looked at half the story before declaring an entirely and more unprovable theory was "indeed the ascribed" perpetrator. If it's our Magnetosphere causing an effect on weather, you can walk and conserve fossil energy all day long, and you'll still get to watch the Owls, Whales and Polar Bears die. > These findings bring the question as to what is the connection between > variations in solar activity and the terrestrial climate into the focal > point of current research. The influence of the Sun on the Earth is seen > increasingly as one cause of the observed global warming since 1900, > along with the emission of the greenhouse gas, carbon dioxide, from the > combustion of coal, gas, and oil. "Just how large this role is, must > still be investigated, since, according to our latest knowledge on the > variations of the solar magnetic field, the significant increase in the > Earth’s temperature since 1980 is indeed to be ascribed to the > greenhouse effect caused by carbon dioxide," says Prof. Sami K. Solanki, > solar physicist and director at the Max Planck Institute for Solar > System Research. > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 18:23:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:23:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > Peter Franks wrote: >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> Things we can all do to stop global warming >>> By Naomi Oreskes, July 13, 2007 >>> { Dr. Oreskes is known for her survey of the scientific literature >>> on global warming, which found that the abstracts of 928 of 928 >>> scientific papers did not challenge global warming. Please see: >>> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >>> -- Roger } >>> >>> [ . . . ] >>> >>> Yet, there is a lot we can do in our everyday lives. Most of these >>> things are easy, and some of them can save you money, too. >>> >>> Here are 10 things we can do to stop global warming. >>> >>> Teach your children the truth about global warming. One of the most >>> important things we can do is to educate our children, because there >>> is a lot of misinformation on the Internet, radio and television. Even >>> many teachers are confused about the facts. Here, in a nutshell, are >>> the facts: Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, which means that it >>> lets in light but traps heat. When we burn fossil fuels, we release >>> carbon dioxide to the atmosphere, where it builds up. ... >> >> Hold on -- >> >> See, we are into the second sentence of the "facts", and already we >> are propagating misinformation. >> >> Carbon dioxide does NOT build up in the atmosphere. CO2 is consumed >> by many natural and biological processes. The issue is when >> production is greater than consumption. > > Oh my, the atmosphere is getting fat! :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich > > Now Al Gore needs to go on two diets... The super Abs one DQ shake a day diet, and the co2 diet. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 18:32:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:32:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Italy IGNORES GORES "earth in the lurch " Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit They are building incinerators to BURN garbage.... Italy decided that they really don't believe in Global warming, imagine them burning trash when I need to cut back on driving my car so the Italians can burn their garbage. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 18:46:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:46:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Good news and bad news References: <7bn8931re1ld6kqh3pcv9et3dqk9bs4d5r@4ax.com> <1184157039.613266.263420@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <34fb93pijlvsl2ne074o6peagd48gnamm4@4ax.com> <9iod93tbs8eh3nkdk5gedt3pfr0ftmo888@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:20:59 -0700, Peter Franks wrote: > >> 1) Governments don't have rights. They have powers. >> >> 2) Under the correct form of government, a power to regulate something >> must be expressly delegated by the people; not surreptitiously or >> tyrannically assumed by the government. In the case of the United >> States, no such power has been delegated to the Federal Government that >> allows it to impose CO2 regulations, regardless of state lines. > > Ok, does the US regulate CO2 emissions at the moment? > > > As of two months ago the supreme court says the EPA must regulate co2. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Fri Jul 13 21:26:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:26:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Italy IGNORES GORES "earth in the lurch " References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:32:15 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> They are building incinerators to BURN garbage.... >> Italy decided that they really don't believe in Global warming, imagine >> them burning trash when I need to cut back on driving my car so the >> Italians can burn their garbage. > > What is wrong with burning garbage, it is a carbon neutral > act, wood, paper and vegetation are carbon neutral. > > Plastic should be recycled, and it is a wonder more of it > is not recycled, it might have nearly the value of aluminum. > > Hydrocarbons will decay over time, which is no different > than burning, other than the time involved. *BINGO* We need to displace the equal amount that we're releasing from the coal and oil, then we can fill up the JET and waste it concert hopping around the world. We could be locking it up in land fills for a 100 - 1000 years and make the "co2 True Believers" happy. Which brings me to a second point, when these people do the MATH, they add all the co2 released and then forget to subtract the co2 we lock up in our houses and land fills, and dump in the ocean and recycle.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:22:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:22:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fear of a global 'coldening' References: <1184356469.875680.176180@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184360118.236727.235310@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184382668.712036.241180@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184386788.597926.18060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184386788.597926.18060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 13, 10:11 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> How's the great Australian drought going these days? >> >> Have the rains ended the threat that drought presented to the farmers >> and small towns of Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland, or are >> you blokes still a bit parched? >> >> On Jul 13, 3:55 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> >>> On Jul 13, 2:54 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22069080-5001031,... >>>> Fear of a global 'coldening' >>>> By Tim Blair >>>> July 14, 2007 12:00am >>>> LAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950. Imagine >>>> that; all those trillions of tonnes of evil carbon we've horked up >>>> into the atmosphere over six decades of rampant industrialisation, and >>>> we're still getting the same icy weather we got during the Cold War. >>>> Not that June should be presented as evidence that global warming >>>> isn't happening, or that we're causing it. Relying on such a tiny >>>> sample would be unscientific and wrong, even if it involves an entire >>>> freakin' continent's weather patterns throughout the course of a whole >>>> month, for Christ's sake. >>>> No such foolishness will be indulged in here. >>>> Sadly, those who believe in global warming - and who would compel us >>>> also to believe - aren't similarly constrained. A few hot days are all >>>> they ever need to get the global warming bandwagon rolling; evidently >>>> it's solar powered. Here, for example, is an Australian Associated >>>> Press report on May's weather, which in places was a little warmer >>>> than usual: >>>> "Climate change gave much of Australia's drought-stricken east coast >>>> its warmest May on record, weather experts say. >>>> "Global warming and an absence of significant cold changes had driven >>>> temperatures well above the monthly average, said meteorologist Matt >>>> Pearce. >>>> According to Mr Pearce, May's temperatures were "yet another sign of >>>> the widespread climate change that we are seeing unfold across the >>>> globe." >>>> If that's the case, shouldn't June's cold weather - coldest since >>>> 1950, remember - be a sign that widespread climate change isn't >>>> unfolding across the globe? We're using the same data here; one >>>> month's weather. And, in fact, the June sample is Australia-wide while >>>> May only highlights the east coast. Fear the dawn of a great >>>> "coldening"! >>>> While Australia freezes, it's kinda hot in California. Again, local >>>> toastiness is evidence of global warming; one San Francisco Chronicle >>>> writer this week referred glibly to their "global-warming-heated >>>> summer". >>>> What phenomenon was responsible for previous summers? Maybe they got >>>> by on the superheated fumes radiating off Lateline host Tony Jones. >>>> Snow cone Tone hosted an in-studio discussion Thursday night after the >>>> ABC presented The Great Global Warming Swindle, and he was hotter than >>>> a Christina Aguilera video. "Welcome to our debate on this deeply >>>> flawed and utterly mistaken documentary, which is wrong in every >>>> regard and was made by a zombie," Jones said in introduction (I'm only >>>> lightly paraphrasing). >>>> During an interview with filmmaker Martin Durkin Tone was visibly >>>> sweating; no easy achievement during a typical summer in the UK, to >>>> where he'd flown for his heated little chat. Perhaps Tone was >>>> anticipating the phantom British summer forecast by The Independent's >>>> environment editor, Michael McCarthy, in April: >>>> "The possibility is growing that Britain in 2007 may experience a >>>> summer of unheard-of high temperatures, with the thermometer even >>>> reaching 40C, or 104F, a level never recorded in history. >>>> "This would be quite outside all historical experience, but entirely >>>> consistent with predictions of climate change." >>>> As Wimbledon watchers would be aware, what with the rainiest >>>> tournament since Jimmy Connors defeated John McEnroe in 1982, those >>>> unheard-of high temperatures remain unheard-of. Someone might >>>> conclude, therefore, that the not-hot summer is not entirely >>>> consistent with predictions of climate change. >>>> But climate change is like Michael Moore's tracksuit - it can fit >>>> anyone. In 2005, Greenpeace rep Steven Guilbeault helpfully explained: >>>> "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean >>>> wetter, that's what we're dealing with." >>>> What we're dealing with, apparently, is weather. >>>> What will the weather be like 100 years from now? Don't ask Britain's >>>> Guardian, which, like the Independent, is full of Warmin' Normans >>>> whose warm warnings never come true. "It could be time to say goodbye >>>> to defining features of British life," the paper claimed a few months >>>> ago, "like rainy picnics and cloudy sunbathing . . ." >>>> Other defining features of British life - screaming, inaccurate >>>> nonsense from the Guardian, for example - will never be farewelled. >>>> Cue wet Wimbledon, the coldest day for Test match cricket (7.4C) in >>>> English history, and this BBC online headline: "Where has the UK's >>>> summer gone?" >>>> Maybe it migrated to Australia, like Augustus Owsley Stanley III, the >>>> American LSD enthusiast and manufacturer. >>>> Possibly influenced by his product, Owsley moved to outback Queensland >>>> about twenty years ago, reportedly convinced that imminent global >>>> warming would cause - in the tradition of warm meaning cold - the >>>> whole Northern Hemisphere to be covered with ice. >>>> Owsley, now 72, is still in Queensland, and likely not a little >>>> confused. Things didn't exactly turn out as predicted. While his >>>> former Californian haunts melt due to "global warming", this year >>>> Queensland has gone frosty. Townsville's June was its coldest since >>>> 1940; June 24 saw the coldest Brisbane morning on record. >>>> Think of these little factoids the next time your read a report >>>> linking a hot day or month or year to global warming. And, if you run >>>> into this Owsley bloke, please ask him to quit adding things to >>>> environmentalists' water supplies. >>> fuh....nnny to the extreme. High-larious.- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - > > Don't know about Australia but here in Canada we've had temps of 20ish > C for the last week. Usually its in the 30s in July. So much for > global warming on the Prairies. > Hey - save a polar bear man.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:26:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:26:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4697d675$0$12156$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:46:00 -0700, W. D. Allen wrote: > >> "...abstracts of 928 of 928 scientific papers did not challenge global >> warming...." >> >> Does Dr. Naomi Oreskes really believe a big enough stack of abstracts >> proves a scientific fact? If so she is an intellectual twit! >> >> We already know Roger Coppock believes his stack of newspaper >> "artitorials" written by journalism school tyros "proves" the existence of >> global warming. But if global warming is so obvious why must the Roger and >> his fellow acolytes repeatedly degenerate to adolescent scatology in their >> arguments? Maybe their college professors were persuaded of the existence >> of physical laws by multiple four letter words - mine certainly did not! >> >> Roger's favorite arch-nemesis, >> >> WDA >> >> end > > No offense, but I think Roger himself may be his own arch-nemesis. > That's pretty harsh dude. Show some love. I'm sure happy you guys like me. Sorry Roger, time to throw you under the bus. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:28:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:28:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming References: <6ind939c455u3tv76sukchk7dlar9d025h@4ax.com> <1184298149.358176.143670@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184384078.892591.292370@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184384078.892591.292370@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit aol@aol.com wrote: > On Jul 13, 7:55 pm, Whata Fool wrote: >> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:42:29 -0700, "a...@aol.com" >> wrote: >> >>> Even if Global Warming were all made up by hollywood, which it's not, >>> we still should reduce our burning of fossil fuels as much as possible >> I agree. >> >>> just to keep the air breatheable, what with another billion people >>> added to the planet in the last few years and all. >> How is the air today, in many places I know it is better than >> it was 70 years ago, steam trains and steel mills and rubber plants have >> all either vanished or cleaned up emissions. > > Yes, environmental legislation has cleaned up the air in some > respects. But the shear volume of carbon burning has put global > warming front and center on the most serious problems on earth. Much > more serious than 'terrorism'. > didn't clean up that little co2 problem, Ooooopppsss -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:33:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:33:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.astrology.metapsych,alt.astrology,alt.paranormal,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: Coming Soon! Pluto in Capricorn till 2024 References: <1181048497.775321.300700@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1181186360.427356.245720@r19g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184261905.712378.254100@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote: > Edmond Wollmann PMAFA wrote in > news:1184261905.712378.254100@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com: > >> On Jun 6, 8:19 pm, Edmond Wollmann PMAFA wrote: >>> On Jun 5, 7:12 am, Widdershins wrote: >>>> Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:01:37 -0700, Edmond Wollmann >>>> licked the point of a #2 Yellow Pencil, >>>> and wrote: >>>>> WhenPlutoEntersCapricorn; the Final Chapters of Planet Earth..... Gee whiz - somebody gets a hangnail and it's a disaster on the planetary scale... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:35:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:35:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How AGW believers treat skeptics.... References: <4685874e$0$19128$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <-pGdncP5NNMnGhjbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1183163259.202750.142800@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1184200796.368379.91060@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184292019.147486.27390@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184338294.439229.261260@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184382438.015761.287230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184382438.015761.287230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 13, 9:58 am, Talk-n-Dog > Ignoring someone is a response. > > Good point. > > But Rich wasn't engaging in the mud-slinging and attempts at insults > and character assassination that often occur in this group; he was > raising real issues and asking real questions. And I didn't want to > ignore his questions, I wanted to answer them. > > > > OK -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 00:43:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:43:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: How Strongly Does the Sun Influence the Global Climate? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Rich" wrote > >> ======================================================================================== >> >> http://www.mpg.de/english/illustrationsDocumentation/documentation/pressReleases/2004/pressRelease20040802/ >> >> >> SP / C / 2004 (26) August 2nd, 2004 >> >> How Strongly Does the Sun Influence the Global Climate? >> > > Here is the peer-reviewed paper of Solanki to this article > from August 2004 > > http://www.umweltluege.de/pdf/solphys-2004.pdf > Florida, we do call it the Sunshine state.... and the main attraction is weather. DDdddaaaaaa? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 03:01:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 03:01:26 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Degaussing the Magnetosphere Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The over the horizon radar, Top of the world is where we ran a radar that uses so much power that it has been brought to the attention of people for years. This radar was activated during the cold war. The first truly operational development was an Anglo-American system known as Cobra Mist. Built starting in the late 1960s, Cobra Mist used an enormous 10 MW transmitter and could detect aircraft over the western USSR from its location in Suffolk. When the system started testing in 1972, however, an unexpected source of noise proved to render it unusable. They eventually abandoned the site in 1973, the source of the noise never having been identified. The Soviets were also working on similar systems during this time, and started operation of their own experimental system in 1971. This was followed shortly thereafter by the first operational system, known in the west as Steel Yard, which started operation in 1976. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar we have contributed significantly to every technology breakthrough in over-the-horizon radar research and development, and are the only company operating its own OTH research radar, the Wide Aperture Research Facility (WARF). We have pioneered the development of OTHR counter-drug surveillance, demonstrating detection and tracking to 1600 nautical miles. In other recent work we developed an advanced maneuvering target tracker and completed a cost-effective conversion to a semi-automated, real-time radar system with the ability to remotely display target data anywhere in the world. http://www.sri.com/esd/rsed/oth.html Australia is using a sophisticated new radar network that can detect stealth bombers, curb illegal immigration and spy on neighbouring nations from at least 3000 kilometres away. The $A1.8 billion Jindalee Operational Radar Network (JORN) has taken more than 30 years to complete but is now undergoing final trials. JORN is designed to monitor air and sea movements across 37,000km of largely unprotected coastline and 9 million square kilometres of ocean. It is being used to cast a security shield across Australia's remote northern approaches without the high cost of maintaining constant maritime and air patrols. http://defence-data.com/features/fpage37.htm A geomagnetic storm on 13 March 1989 knocked out Quebec�s power grid for nine hours. Canadian power companies have since spent over $1 billion hardening their systems. Studies have estimated that such a storm could cause damage and losses to the U.S. electric power grid costing $6 billion. Indirect costs include the effects of blackouts on crime, disruption of critical services, etc. These storms also damage sensitive electronics in spacecraft costing hundreds of millions of dollars. They also pose radiation hazards to manned space missions, as well as to the passengers and crews of high-flying aircraft. It is not widely known that VHF-radar echoes from the Sun were first observed in the 1960s. The Sun�s radar cross section increases by orders of magnitude during events known as coronal mass ejections (CMEs). CMEs are known precursors of geomagnetic storms. An OTH radar experiment is underway in which the radar looks directly at the Sun shortly after sunrise. If the experiment is successful (as preliminary results suggest), the capability of measuring the intensity of CMEs 3 to 4 days before their high-energy particles reach the Earth would greatly extend the time for preventive action. Such �space weather forecasts� are part of the mission of the proposed National Space Weather Service. Because OTH radars look only at low elevation angles, OTH-B is not seen as an operational solar radar, but instead as a unique research tool for probing the structure and dynamics of the solar corona and as a test bed for developing HF solar radar technology. http://www.etl.noaa.gov/technology/archive/othr/spawx.html he ROTHR Virginia surveillance area covers more than 2.2 million square miles of the Caribbean extending north-south from southern Florida to the northern coast of South America and east-west from the western coast of Central America to the Lesser Antilles. This coverage is achieved using 5-to-28-MHz radio waves that reflect from the ionosphere. ROTHR is a land-based, high-frequency (HF) radar which can cover a 64-degree wedge-shaped area at ranges of 500 to 1,600 nautical miles. This extended range is achieved when transmitted HF energy is refracted by the ionosphere onto distant targets. The faint energy reflected back from these targets (backscatter) is detected by the radar receive antenna after returning along the refraction path. The surface of the earth and the targets in the area of interest reflect some of this http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/systems/an-tps-71.htm From - Sat Jul 14 11:45:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:45:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics.economics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Peak Oil or global warming? References: <1i191ih.bfq3m6vl4cnN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Peter B. P." wrote >> It appears you can't have both at the same time: >> >> http://patrissimo.livejournal.com/570868.html >> >> quote: >> >> "IPCC calculations disagree with peak oil? > > Peak Oil does not exist. > > http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,490207,00.html > (maybe this is somewhere in english too, didn't look for it) > > Off shore of South East Asia more and more natural gas and oil is > discovered. > The lucky one is Vietnam, where the fields stretch like a carpet > from north to south, among them a supergiant field like in > Saudi Arabia. > .... > From probe boreholes at Sihanoukville Chevron found oil with > 4 of 5 boreholes. Chevron calls this significant. > They estimate 500 billion barrels of oil within 6 fields, and that's > only the beginning. > > Royal Dutch Shell is drilling off shore from Sabah, wherefrom starting > to convey 350 billion barrels at coming autumn. > > Vietnam opens up 3 new blocks of about 700 billion barrels in the > Cuu-Long bassin and JapanVietnam Pertoleum discovers another > field with 37 billion barrels. > > The supergiant field however is located in the Song-Hong bassin > with an estimated volume of 5 trillion barrels. > How the hell - hot, was the temp when all this oil was locked up as green foliage before it became oil. according to the "Believers" releasing it will heat us up. If we release it all, we should go right back to the co2 levels of the day before the oil was made, I don't buy it. The planet survived before the oil was oil didn't it? Did the dinosaurs cause the co2 to rise by eating too many trees/plants? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 12:06:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:06:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1i1910m.r2oo3k16suxmfN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> In-Reply-To: <1i1910m.r2oo3k16suxmfN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter B. P. wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Vandar wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> >>>> Things we can all do to stop global warming >>>> By Naomi Oreskes, July 13, 2007 >>>> { Dr. Oreskes is known for her survey of the scientific literature >>>> on global warming, which found that the abstracts of 928 of 928 >>>> scientific papers did not challenge global warming. Please see: >>>> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >>>> -- Roger } >>>> >>>> [ . . . ] >>>> >>>> Yet, there is a lot we can do in our everyday lives. Most of these >>>> things are easy, and some of them can save you money, too. >>>> >>>> Here are 10 things we can do to stop global warming. >>>> >>>> Teach your children the truth about global warming. >> And how to stay poor and grovel at the feet of Al Gore while he >> increases his wealth that he was given? > > That Al Gore is an oppertunistic hypocrite does nto change that fact > that he is bascially right about global warming. > Lets poll the death row prisoners and see if those opportunists think we ought to ban fossil fuel. I'd bet that since they have no concept of ever being free and having any need for oil they won't care if you have any cars or not. Like a millionaire who has his life already decided and has no concept of being someone without his millions and without the means to enjoy what the rest of us would not be too. And that adds doubt that he is doing anything but padding his own pockets. Lets look at Bill Gates, and Warren Buffett, are they donating Billions to save the co2 from killing the planet? But they are giving and spending it to save Africa From disease and ignorance and starvation. Why save them if global warming will just create a weather disaster and kill them all anyways? Aren't these guys wealthy enough to have all the facts? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 12:21:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:21:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Degaussing the Magnetosphere References: <1184418152.297221.117330@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184418152.297221.117330@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 14, 12:01 am, 13th monkey <13thmon...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote: > [ . . . ] >> Built starting in the late 1960s, Cobra Mist used an enormous 10 MW >> transmitter and could detect >> > The total power of current greenhouse gas forcing is > 1.5 * 10 to the 15th power Watts continuous. > (2.8 Watts/m*m times the surface area of the Earth. > Please see: > http://www.giss.nasa.gov/~makis/2006_04+05+06/Fig5a.txt > 2.8 is projected from the 2003 figure of GHG forcing given.) > > 10 MW, (probably the peak power of the very short pulse), > isn't anything along side of that. > > If your illiterate cut-and-paste is trying to infer > that military radars are the cause of the current > global warming, you'll have to multiply those small > toys by 8 decimal orders of magnitude and run them > continuously first. > > OK - read on and find that there are more and more coming on line and have been over the past 50 years and they only have to block a few of the few cosmic rays that get past the magnetosphere. These are 10 megawatt radars. They're creating an umbrella to keep out cosmic rays that create clouds, the lack of clouds being created by cosmic rays means more heat. All this, needs less severe numbers to effect the temperature since clouds are 100 times more influential than co2 buffering. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 12:23:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:23:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Things we can all do to stop global warming References: <1184339197.483476.283730@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4698aae2$0$12809$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <4698aae2$0$12809$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit seon ferguson wrote: > I know one thing you can do: stop using your computer to post stuff about > global Warming. > > Serve grape cool-ade at the next meeting? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 12:24:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:24:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.consumers.frugal-living,alt.true-crime,alt.global-warming,alt.walmart Subject: Re: Beijing Steam Buns Include Cardboard References: <1184284810.316715.237060@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit clams casino wrote: > sagawaeasdgsdaasfd@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Beijing Steam Buns Include Cardboard >> Thursday July 12, 2007 10:01 AM >> >> BEIJING (AP) - Chopped cardboard, softened with an industrial chemical >> and made tasty with pork flavoring >> > > They obvious got the idea after eating Burger King fries. Which taste worse Chinese Dog Food OR Chinese Cardboard? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 14:59:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:58:59 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Halley's Comet casts off carbon Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Haleys comet came by and left carbon based dust. Remember the cosmic rays are deflected just enough to keep our environment habitable.

A magnetosphere has many parts, such as the bow shock, magnetosheath, magnetotail, plasmasheet, lobes, plasmasphere, radiation belts and many electric currents. It is composed of charged particles and magnetic flux.

These particles are responsible for many wonderful natural phenomena such as the aurora and natural radio emissions such as lion roars and whistler waves.

The particles move and circulate about the magnetosphere and even generate storms. The magnetosphere changes constantly, even flipping its orientation every few thousand years.

Curvature of the magnetic field lines and the non-uniform strength of the magnetic field force particles to drift around the earth, ions in one direction, electrons in the other.

Not only do particles spiral around magnetic field lines but they also move along the field lines toward the Earth. The crowded magnetic field lines near the poles cause particles to "reflect" and move back the same direction the from which they came. They bounce back and forth between reflection points in each hemisphere. Only a small portion of these particle penetrate into the lower atmosphere


Each time Comet Halley swings by the sun, solar heating evaporates about 6 meters of ice and rock from the nucleus. Comet debris particles are usually no bigger than grains of sand, and much less dense. Although they are very small, these tiny 'meteoroids' make brilliant shooting stars when they strike Earth's atmosphere because they travel at tremendous speeds. The Orionids meteor shower happens each year when Earth passes through the debris stream of Comet Halley, and meteoroids hit the atmosphere at nearly 90,000 mph.
http://science.nasa.gov/NEWHOME/headlines/ast20oct98_1.htm

From - Sat Jul 14 15:39:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:39:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Geo Magnetic field and Global Warming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If as has been shown in other research that the Cosmic rays can effect clouds... it's interesting to know also that the magnetosphere effects cosmic rays, therefore the magnetosphere effects the weather. The Earth's magnetic field (or geomagnetic field) is an ever-changing phenomenon that influences human activity and the natural world in a myriad of ways. The geomagnetic field changes from place to place, and on time scales ranging from seconds to decades to eons. These changes can affect health and safety, and economic well-being. The geomagnetic field, along with its associated phenomena, can both assist and degrade navigation and surveying techniques; it can impede geophysical exploration; it can disrupt electric power utilities, and pipeline operations; and it can influence modern communications systems, spacecraft, and more. http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/index_e.php http://gsc.nrcan.gc.ca/geomag/field/arctics_e.php -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 15:49:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:49:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Re: Fatso from Sicko References: <46990027$0$12216$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46990027$0$12216$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cockamamie Khomeini wrote: > no_surrender@never.net wrote: >> Here's a great quote on the fatso who foisted Sicko on us: "If Michael >> Moore's waistline ever puts him in the hospital for heart surgery, it will >> be interesting to see where he goes for medical care, Mayo Clinic or Cuba." >> Grace-Marie Turner, Founder of Galen Institute, a health policy group. >> >> Also, remember Infidel the Chicken Plucker needed docs from Espana to fix >> his problem; his home-grown, socialist-paradise docs just weren't up to the >> job. Irony, anyone? >> >> Dennis >> >> > Do you listen with your asshole? He did not say medical care was bad, > it's the way it's paid for or denied for most in the US. > Apparently, Fidel's way of paying for it worked out for him, the rest of the country just needs the same care, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 15:50:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:50:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Re: Fatso from Sicko References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Callistus Valerius wrote: >> Here's a great quote on the fatso who foisted Sicko on us: "If Michael >> Moore's waistline ever puts him in the hospital for heart surgery, it will >> be interesting to see where he goes for medical care, Mayo Clinic or > Cuba." >> Grace-Marie Turner, Founder of Galen Institute, a health policy group. >> >> Also, remember Infidel the Chicken Plucker needed docs from Espana to fix >> his problem; his home-grown, socialist-paradise docs just weren't up to > the >> job. Irony, anyone? >> >> Dennis > --------- > Health care in Cuba, outside the capital of Havana, is best described as > "first aid." The average ambulance in your typical American city, has more > essential medical equipment than the average clinic in Cuba. Cuba is not a > place to get sick. > > We could hold a concert and fix it... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 16:11:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:11:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Difference Between Genius and Stupidity References: <1184430554.168402.20980@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184430554.168402.20980@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Jul 13, 9:31 am, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >> On Jul 13, 9:15 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 7:30 am, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >>>> On Jul 13, 8:06 am, leonard7...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 12, 10:54 am, leonard7...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> "Peer review" has become the hedge that leftwingnuts >>>>>>> use to protect their propaganda falsehoods from attack. >>>>>> Peer review is the only way to insure good science. >>>>> Read the first article in the thread and then go hang yourself. >>>>> Perhaps, but it does not guarantee good science. >>>>> Have you never heard of a perversion of science? >>>>> IPCC is a good example >>>> I know there are some problems with the way they averaged the models, >>>> and that on some models of the parameters were adjusted into the >>>> unphysical range to achieve a better fit, but it sounds to me as if >>>> you are dismissing all GCMs. >>> As a scientists you/we have no choice but to reject any and all GCMs >>> that do not include statistical analysis that provides us an estimate >>> of the statistical certainty on any particular model run. >> Statistical certainty of what? > > The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its > limits. > Darwin said they both had a limit....hence the Darwin awards. But the difference is that one thinks he knows it all. Remember that it's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 18:49:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:49:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: The Secret Campaign To Deny Global Warming References: <1183869153.207722.269090@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1183931323.936191.129670@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <2rm393lod5dgpl2k2ott77iommhqs8h5kt@4ax.com> <1184070494.847253.120100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184091455.710458.233780@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184176727.916767.3170@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <469629CE.8976458C@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <3fGdnSO5qNtmsgvbnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d@comcast.com> <46963616.501CC3FC@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1184364266.283559.182560@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184451729.162534.265430@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184451729.162534.265430@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit einarbb@gmail.com wrote: > Rich wrote: >> einarbb@gmail.com wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> You appear not to have heard about ENVISAT, the most expensive >>> satellite ever launched by ESA, specifickly designed to make precise >>> measurements so climate models could be improved. >> Actually, I'd not heard of it. >> >> What, specifically, has it found so far? >> >> Hopefully more than LIGO. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rich >> >> >>> Probably the most sophisticated satellite currently orbiting our >>> planet with the exception perhaps of some highly classified US defence >>> sats. You can give the tribesmen of New Guinea a space shuttle too, unless they know what to do with it, they'll just use it to keep the rain off their heads. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 18:54:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 18:54:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <1184003212.583590.110830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184094279.988452.323700@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3rKdnSPgDrMxRw7bnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com> <1184095995.554937.54710@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184176336.780708.267110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184435779.398680.13790@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2fii931pj4jng4greob9sfldvo7m66mq2l@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <2fii931pj4jng4greob9sfldvo7m66mq2l@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fred J. McCall wrote: > Lloyd wrote: > > :On Jul 11, 2:10 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: > :> Lloyd wrote: > :> > :> :On Jul 10, 11:59 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: > :> :> Eric Chomko wrote: > :> :> > :> :> :On Jul 10, 3:15 pm, Rich wrote::> Eric Chomko wrote: > :> :> > :> :> :> > :> :> :> [...] > :> :> :> > :> :> :> > Martha Stewart served time. Paris Hilton served more time than Libby > :> :> :> > did. Do you think it just that Libby's sentence was commuted? > :> :> :> > :> :> :> You know something, I've been trying to determine exactly what > :> :> :> crime Libby committed? Best I can figure he could not remember > :> :> :> what he told someone else. But he did not 'out' Vallery Plame, > :> :> :> nor was she outed by anyone who had talked to Libby. I read > :> :> :> somewhere that it was pretty widely known that she was a > :> :> :> CIA agent anyway. > :> :> : > :> :> :It was not widely known about Plame when Novak reported that fact. The > :> :> :fact that the WH would "fix" Joe Wilson for not following their party > :> :> :line about uranium from Niger by outting his wife DOES seem to be what > :> :> :occurred. Libby couldn't keep the story straight, was the right guy to > :> :> :take the fall, only to have W commute his sentence. > :> :> : > :> :> > :> :> Except nobody has been charged with that (not even the guy that admits > :> :> telling Novak) and there's no evidence any such thing happened. > :> :> There's not even good evidence that Plame *WAS* a covert agent within > :> :> the meaning of the law. > :> :> > :> : > :> :False. The CIA says she was. Fitzgerald says she was. I'd say it's > :> :incumbent on you to prove she was not, given that. > :> : > :> > :> Cite? > :> > : > :http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11179719/site/newsweek/ > : > > Nothing from the CIA. It talks about what "Fitzgerald found", not > what the CIA said. > > :http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517.html > > No statement about her being covert. 'Secret' classification does not > imply 'covert'. > > :http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/politics/animal/main2865777.shtml > > Again, this is what Fitzgerald said. Fitzgerald isn't in the CIA. > > :http://uspolitics.about.com/b/a/208107.htm > > Nothing signed by the CIA. > > Unattributed claims do not count. > > One more time - Cite for *THE CIA* saying she was covert at the time. > > The cite said "she was" which is like saying "you were" drunk, but when? At the time you were writing this or two days ago? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 19:18:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:18:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Pollution in the Grocery Store. Hazardous Waste in Control at the IPCC. References: <1184453136.521428.231460@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184453136.521428.231460@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: > The CO2 from cars is readily absorbed by the produce growing on farms. > Within several months, some carbon coming out of cars or factories > will be part of the fruit and vegetables sold. > > How can this continue. The three stooges, (of the elite 'Lear Jet > class' of folk), Algore, RFKJr, and JKerry, say that anyone that > supports the continuance of this, are guilty of high crimes against > the environment which they do only in the pursuit of their profits. > > Therefore, they wish to make the emissions of CO2 a crime, and a high > crime since it is such a terrible thing to conduct economic business > which produces CO2. This requires the definition of CO2 and methane as > deadly poisons to the environment, which the utmost enforcement > against this pollution must be rendered in order to save the planet. > > This means that since humans are composed of carbon, which only makes > methane and CO2, they too can be defined as deadly toxins to the > environment. So according to this definition, the three stooges and > the 'scientists' of the IPCC can certainly be defined as deadly toxins > to the environment. > > SOMEONE CALL THE HAZEMAT CREW!!!!!!!! > > KDeatherage > CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help and buy > an air conditioner. > In school now it's a huge breech of political correctness to allow some children to have and display thing that others can't afford.... We can't all afford to have carbon offsets, so Al Gore needs to make it all equal and share his crayons(offsets) with the rest of us. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 20:51:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:51:10 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Pollution in the Grocery Store. Hazardous Waste in Control at the IPCC. References: <1184453136.521428.231460@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: >> The CO2 from cars is readily absorbed by the produce growing on farms. >> Within several months, some carbon coming out of cars or factories >> will be part of the fruit and vegetables sold. >> >> How can this continue. The three stooges, (of the elite 'Lear Jet >> class' of folk), Algore, RFKJr, and JKerry, say that anyone that >> supports the continuance of this, are guilty of high crimes against >> the environment which they do only in the pursuit of their profits. >> >> Therefore, they wish to make the emissions of CO2 a crime, and a high >> crime since it is such a terrible thing to conduct economic business >> which produces CO2. This requires the definition of CO2 and methane as >> deadly poisons to the environment, which the utmost enforcement >> against this pollution must be rendered in order to save the planet. >> >> This means that since humans are composed of carbon, which only makes >> methane and CO2, they too can be defined as deadly toxins to the >> environment. So according to this definition, the three stooges and >> the 'scientists' of the IPCC can certainly be defined as deadly toxins >> to the environment. >> >> SOMEONE CALL THE HAZEMAT CREW!!!!!!!! >> >> KDeatherage >> CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help and buy >> an air conditioner. >> > In school now it's > > a huge breech of political correctness to allow some children to have > and display things that others can't afford.... We can't all afford to > have carbon offsets, so Al Gore needs to make it all equal and share his > crayons(offsets) with the rest of us. > > > My kids will all have *Officially Certified Crayon Offsets* that guarantee that my kids crayons will remain in their possession just like Gores JET fuel remains in his possession. From - Sat Jul 14 21:35:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:35:50 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The Difference Between Genius and Stupidity References: <1184430554.168402.20980@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> On Jul 13, 9:31 am, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 9:15 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> On Jul 13, 7:30 am, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >>>>> On Jul 13, 8:06 am, leonard7...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Jul 12, 1:26 pm, Baldin Lee Pramer wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 12, 10:54 am, leonard7...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> "Peer review" has become the hedge that leftwingnuts >>>>>>>> use to protect their propaganda falsehoods from attack. >>>>>>> Peer review is the only way to insure good science. >>>>>> Read the first article in the thread and then go hang yourself. >>>>>> Perhaps, but it does not guarantee good science. >>>>>> Have you never heard of a perversion of science? >>>>>> IPCC is a good example >>>>> I know there are some problems with the way they averaged the models, >>>>> and that on some models of the parameters were adjusted into the >>>>> unphysical range to achieve a better fit, but it sounds to me as if >>>>> you are dismissing all GCMs. >>>> As a scientists you/we have no choice but to reject any and all GCMs >>>> that do not include statistical analysis that provides us an estimate >>>> of the statistical certainty on any particular model run. >>> Statistical certainty of what? >> >> The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its >> limits. >> > Darwin said they both had a limit....hence the Darwin awards. > > But the difference is that one thinks he knows it all. > > > Remember that it's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts. > > Two sides of the same coin. From - Sat Jul 14 21:41:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:41:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Geo Magnetic field and Global Warming References: <1184463136.845794.268110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184463136.845794.268110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 14, 12:39 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> If as has been shown in other research that the Cosmic rays can effect >> clouds... it's interesting to know also that the magnetosphere effects >> cosmic rays, therefore the magnetosphere effects the weather. > > That's an interesting conjecture, however direct > observations of cosmic ray flux show no significant > long term increase over the last 5 decades, only > cycles about 11 years long. > > Please see: > http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Climax.jpg > > These data come from a hundred element detector at Climax > Colorado and are archived at the World Data Center for > Cosmic Rays. They are located here: > http://www.env.sci.ibaraki.ac.jp/ftp/pub/WDCCR/STATIONS/climax/cardformat/ > The card data format is explained here: > http://www.env.sci.ibaraki.ac.jp/ftp/pub/WDCCR/READ.ME > Hourly data were converted into monthly means. > From the SUN. But if you look a little deeper, decrease in cosmic rays will cause a lower percentage of cloud cover, and decreasing might be caused not by the sun but by humans interference or natural magnetosphere problems. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sat Jul 14 23:31:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:31:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Geo Magnetic field and Global Warming References: <1184463136.845794.268110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184468868.918006.121070@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184468868.918006.121070@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 14, 6:41 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> On Jul 14, 12:39 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> If as has been shown in other research that the Cosmic rays can effect >>>> clouds... it's interesting to know also that the magnetosphere effects >>>> cosmic rays, therefore the magnetosphere effects the weather. >>> That's an interesting conjecture, however direct >>> observations of cosmic ray flux show no significant >>> long term increase over the last 5 decades, only >>> cycles about 11 years long. >>> Please see: >>> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Climax.jpg >>> These data come from a hundred element detector at Climax >>> Colorado and are archived at the World Data Center for >>> Cosmic Rays. They are located here: >>> http://www.env.sci.ibaraki.ac.jp/ftp/pub/WDCCR/STATIONS/climax/cardfo... >>> The card data format is explained here: >>> http://www.env.sci.ibaraki.ac.jp/ftp/pub/WDCCR/READ.ME >>> Hourly data were converted into monthly means. >> From the SUN. > > NO, NO, No, COSMIC RAYS, > from ANYWHERE to the Earth. > > >> But if you look a little deeper, decrease in cosmic rays will cause a >> lower percentage of cloud cover, and decreasing might be caused not by >> the sun but by humans interference or natural magnetosphere problems. > > TO REPEAT: > .. . . direct > observations of COSMIC RAY FLUX show NO SIGNIFICANT > LONG TERM INCREASE OR DECREASE over the last 5 decades, > only cycles about 11 years long. Please see: > http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Climax.jpg > The data are in red, > the 'line and sine' equation is in green, and > the linear term is in blue > > THEREFORE, cosmic rays are NOT a source of the > rise in the global mean surface temperature > in the same period. > NO NO NON NO, NEW CONCEPT I actually understand that there is an 11 year Solar cycle.... The point I'm getting to; say - the sun's cosmic rays are constant as you say, but the earth magnetosphere which BLOCKS some cosmic rays, is causing an INCREASE OR DECREASE in the cosmic rays getting through the ionosphere to create clouds. You can look at the sun all day and not be measuring what is actually making or not making our clouds. That graph was short on info, where and how did they measure it, satellite, or ground based. And was it from a single location or multiple? Your happy enough to measure and remeasure and check 8000 year old ice bubbles for co2, but one graph with no info and your sold? Do you want it to be Co2 for some reason? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 13:50:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 13:50:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: HAY EVERYBODY, Peter Muehlbauer is faking graphs by hand drawing them, just like Martin Dirkin! References: <1184493006.134266.9870@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184493006.134266.9870@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 15, 2:13 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" > wrote: >> Roger, you're simply an idiot and you can't read diagrams! >> Disregarding the AMPLITUDES, that show clearly the temperature >> characteristics, makes you a fool! >> >> I'll borrow your diagram for a moment. >> >> http://www.umweltluege.de/images/roger_wrong_2.jpg >> >> What I've done is flipping this diagram (and C&P the timline to >> the bottom). >> Watch the upper curve, that reflects the temperature gradient. > > The upper curve reflects your over active imagination, > as does the lower curve, Peter! > >> Also watch the magnitudes. > > HA! HA! HA! HA! > > You give a new meaning for can't see the forest for > the trees. > > AND you hand draw lines to fake data just as badly as that > Communist Martin Dirkin does. > > HAY! If you rotate it on its side, Peter > your fake graph looks like Elvis! > > ROTFLMSAO! > Sell it on eBay, I see the Virgin Mary in it on the other side. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 15:13:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:13:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Why are AGW proponents not educating the public in the specifics of AGW theory References: <1184519085.711348.243100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Mr. Denk?McGinn Titled this piece: >> >>> Why are AGW proponents not educating the public in the specifics of >>> AGW theory[?] >> >> You did see "An Inconvenient Truth," didn't you, >> Mr. Denk/McGinn? > > I did. It was a fine appeal to emotion. > > I understand that school children get to see it over and over again. > > Cheers, > > Rich Al Gore should have brought back Joe Camel, since the kids all listen to him so well. If Joe can make kids smoke then making them scared of planetary death should be simple as striking the match. Kids scare easily and it's as insidious to prey on that. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 19:22:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 19:22:54 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: -->Re: Recent Drought News Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >john fernbach wrote: u `8786 `1h *&^)(%^&$*^%(%^)^)%^&$%(^%(&^%#$#@!@$%*()_ You didn't note that the drought in Florida and the southeast was being quenched. Raining most everyday in some yards. *If* new forecasts are more right than they usually are, well get more. From - Sun Jul 15 21:56:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:56:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.environment,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian,alt.impeach.bush Subject: Re: EARTH to AL GORE: We Can't Reduce Greenhouse Gasses -- COSTS TOO MUCH ! References: <1184514245.842410.215360@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184515360.483209.48940@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184545019.743731.225530@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184545019.743731.225530@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert Run wrote: > On Jul 15, 11:02 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Take a look at my post, >> "What It Would Take to Put the Brakes on Global Warming." > > What is the deal? What ever happened to the pro-business conservatives > who saw problems as opportunities? > > Who the heck are these idiots who have so much partisan hatred and > have absolutely ZERO knowledge of business innovation and the economic > booms that new technologies provide EVERY SINGLE TIME they occur. > > They are certainly not the captains of industry who are going to solve > these energy problems and make a bundle in the process. > > Unbelievable, who ARE these knuckleheads? Is this the new neo-nazi > craze? They certainly have the mentality for it. > > You mean like Al Gore? The one who can convince a Liberal to wipe with one sheet cause Gore has zero investment there, but convince you to GOOGLE global warming 3000 time a day, where he owns stock? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 22:09:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:09:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: new discussion forum for climate change References: <1184549247.585621.105380@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184551622.348241.63050@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184551622.348241.63050@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 15, 9:27 pm, "powersoftme...@yahoo.com" > wrote: >> http://www.worldofrenewables.com > > I like what Edwards is saying about the "blue green" alliance between > environmental groups and labor unions (for instance, the United > Steelworkers) for the purpose of creating new industrial jobs. We could all sit around and sing "Coombya" -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 22:17:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:17:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Let's Ignore Doom and Gloom Scenarios on GW -- and We Can ALL GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC! References: <1184539133.294841.169030@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184544824.669423.217330@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184549495.367810.36840@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184549495.367810.36840@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > Wouldn't playing in heavy traffic be fun? > > A lot more fun than reading over the latest news about drought and > climate from California, Alabama, Ohio, North Carolina and > Australia ... > > Because Bawana finds that information DEPRESSING. > > "What, me worry?" > -- Alfred E. Neumann, MAD Magazine > > ========================================= > > On Jul 15, 8:13 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: > > NOTHING > > It's fun but we did that yesterday. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Sun Jul 15 22:32:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 22:32:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.environment,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian,alt.impeach.bush Subject: Re: EARTH to AL GORE: We Can't Reduce Greenhouse Gasses -- COSTS TOO MUCH ! References: <1184514245.842410.215360@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184515360.483209.48940@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184545019.743731.225530@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184551672.811543.137070@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184551672.811543.137070@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rst0wxyz wrote: > On Jul 15, 6:56 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Robert Run wrote: >>> On Jul 15, 11:02 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> Take a look at my post, >>>> "What It Would Take to Put the Brakes on Global Warming." >>> What is the deal? What ever happened to the pro-business conservatives >>> who saw problems as opportunities? >>> Who the heck are these idiots who have so much partisan hatred and >>> have absolutely ZERO knowledge of business innovation and the economic >>> booms that new technologies provide EVERY SINGLE TIME they occur. >>> They are certainly not the captains of industry who are going to solve >>> these energy problems and make a bundle in the process. >>> Unbelievable, who ARE these knuckleheads? Is this the new neo-nazi >>> craze? They certainly have the mentality for it. >> You mean like Al Gore? The one who can convince a Liberal to wipe with >> one sheet cause Gore has zero investment there, but convince you to >> GOOGLE global warming 3000 time a day, where he owns stock? >> >> -- >> An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out >> >> I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things >> kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then >> New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... > > That is because you are a lousy programmer, and you don't know what > the hell you are doing. So take your hands off the computer so it can > do its work. if(u != iq/2) then (u == rst0wxyz) print "rst0wxyz would have programmed this but....(iq < 2)" That code is still making me millions. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 01:11:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:11:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.california,alt.politics.bush,sci.environment Subject: Re: More Drought News from All Over -- Is there a climate connection? References: <1184539133.294841.169030@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184544824.669423.217330@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184549495.367810.36840@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184554065.926056.87640@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184554747.277010.181200@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184554747.277010.181200@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 15, 10:47 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: > > "What, me worry?" > > (paraphrase) > > Here are two other recent news items dealing (partly) with drought and > climate. One is from Florida, the other from Karnataka State in > India. > > ======================================================================== > >>From the News Press, > Southwest Florida. > > Governor Crist in climate control Declares Florida leader in warming > fight Florida - famous for it's *heat* and making billions from it, needs to keep the market cornered on living warm. The Big GW Circus Convention was hosted in Florida, more income for the State, Global warming is Big Business and the State Economy depends on the rest you freezing your ass off and buying that airline ticket to fill the Hotels and pay all that tax. The whole State could be against Al Gore, and still be willing to "STOP Global warming". We're talking Jobs. Air Boat rides will continue as they did during the Global Warming Convention (Pow-wow), just as Alligator wrestling does during the PETA conventions. Why do you GW-NUTZ insist on painting things in your own image... All People don't fight Global warming because they're *True Believers* some like Al Gore, make money from the proposition. Animals aren't human and don't act like humans either(except at Disney) where they also welcome Global Warming nutz to pay tax and "fossil it up" for a few days. On the brite side, Florida has three nuclear plants, so don't whine too loud if you want oil rigs off the coast - or wind mills. Florida did from the '70s what most of the rest of you wouldn't, allow nukes in the back yard. Florida was ahead of co2 Global Warming of you before the shit hit the fan. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 07:31:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:31:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.california,alt.politics.bush,sci.environment Subject: Re: More Drought News from All Over -- Is there a climate connection? References: <1184539133.294841.169030@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184544824.669423.217330@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184549495.367810.36840@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184554065.926056.87640@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184554747.277010.181200@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > john fernbach wrote: >> On Jul 15, 10:47 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >> >> "What, me worry?" >> >> (paraphrase) >> >> Here are two other recent news items dealing (partly) with drought and >> climate. One is from Florida, the other from Karnataka State in >> India. >> >> ======================================================================== >> >>> From the News Press, >> Southwest Florida. >> >> Governor Crist in climate control Declares Florida leader in warming >> fight > Governor Crist said "There's gold in green" > > Florida - famous for it's *heat* and making billions from it, needs to > keep the market cornered on living warm. > The Big GW Circus Convention was hosted in Florida, more income for the > State, Global warming is Big Business and the State Economy depends on > the rest you freezing your ass off and buying that airline ticket to > fill the Hotels and pay all that tax. > > The whole State could be against Al Gore, and still be willing to "STOP > Global warming". We're talking Jobs. Air Boat rides will continue as > they did during the Global Warming Convention (Pow-wow), just as > Alligator wrestling does during the PETA conventions. > > Why do you GW-NUTZ insist on painting things in your own image... All > People don't fight Global warming because they're *True Believers* some > like Al Gore, make money from the proposition. Animals aren't human and > don't act like humans either(except at Disney) where they also welcome > Global Warming nutz to pay tax and "fossil it up" for a few days. > > > On the brite side, Florida has three nuclear plants, so don't whine too > loud if you want oil rigs off the coast - or wind mills. Florida did > from the '70s what most of the rest of you wouldn't, allow nukes in the > back yard. Florida was ahead of co2 Global Warming before the > shit hit the fan. > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 07:40:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:40:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i194fr.12uvrss1nkq631N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i1ak78.svxu8d154v5kN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:44:52 -0700, nobody@nowheres.com > (the_blogologist) wrote: > >> About half of the federal debt comes from the federal reserve which >> creates money out of nothing. > > You don't know what you are talking about. > > Possibly the treasury borrows from the SS fund, but the > federal reserve has to balance books if it owns any treasury notes. > > All money "created" is based on home mortgages, those who > think the FRB just prints money at will are clueless and foolish, the > very reason for having a banking system isolated from the treasury is to > prevent "just printing money at will". > > > I tried to explain it to someone and this was my best attempt so far. Suppose there is no such thing as money $0.00 nothing anywhere, so the FED prints a million dollars, you say great I want to barrow it. Suppose it costs you 10% interest to barrow it. You now owe the FED 1 million one hundred thousand dollars. You go and - pay back the FED - one million dollars, they ask where's the interest? What would you say? I'd say you(the Fed) have to print it, so I can give it to the FED, I can't give a million one hundred thousand if you only printed one million of these(dollars). There it is... never ending debt. With every dollar there is interest, that you can never pay. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out I ran my global warming model program... and it stuck in a loop, things kept getting hot then cold and rain and then dry, The moon is full then New then full, the sun has spots and then none.... § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 08:20:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:20:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,talk.environment,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.indian,alt.impeach.bush Subject: Re: Who will die first?Re: EARTH to AL GORE: We Can't Reduce Greenhouse Gasses -- COSTS TOO MUCH ! References: <1184514245.842410.215360@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184515360.483209.48940@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184545019.743731.225530@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184564346.920571.205890@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184564346.920571.205890@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sha zu Kang(butcher Kang) Fucks Chairman Cat(Mao) wrote: > Who will die first? > According to Darwin, Liberals will take the biggest hit. Weak, whining Wussy's that are unable to adapt and fend for themselves are the ones who die first. The Liberals want to change everything and everyone to fit their needs and not work to live within the confines that their environment offers. > > Robert Run wrote: >> On Jul 15, 11:02 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>> Take a look at my post, >>> "What It Would Take to Put the Brakes on Global Warming." >> What is the deal? What ever happened to the pro-business conservatives >> who saw problems as opportunities? >> >> Who the heck are these idiots who have so much partisan hatred and >> have absolutely ZERO knowledge of business innovation and the economic >> booms that new technologies provide EVERY SINGLE TIME they occur. >> >> They are certainly not the captains of industry who are going to solve >> these energy problems and make a bundle in the process. >> >> Unbelievable, who ARE these knuckleheads? Is this the new neo-nazi >> craze? They certainly have the mentality for it. > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,8/ § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 13:12:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:12:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Why are AGW proponents not educating the public in the specifics of AGW theory References: <1184519085.711348.243100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <7xxmi.11547$bz7.5943@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net> <1184542258.266648.132380@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184599928.304417.301300@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote >> Good list John! To your list, I would add this >> one by Dr. David Archer of the U. of Chicago: >> http://forecast.uchicago.edu/ > > Who wants to buy books about GW? > > It's as useless as buying a book about my last portion > of Häagen-Dazs Icecreme Macadamia Nut Brittle, > which gave up existence within 5 minutes. > The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole bowl. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,8/ § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 13:32:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:32:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: No one posts Ocean temperature Data Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since the ocean and air heat at different rates, it makes since that if any of the data comes in a mixed data set then the data will be fouled. What needs to be done is disengage the two types of data any where they need be, water heats at a different coefficient than air or steel. Then take the ocean, and the air temp and find the difference between the two. Given the lag rate, for the ocean to heat, we should be able to get a better *guess* than by mixing apples and oranges. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,8/ § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 14:01:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:01:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,sci.space.policy,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Get REAL America References: <1184003212.583590.110830@c77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184094279.988452.323700@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3rKdnSPgDrMxRw7bnZ2dnUVZ_sOknZ2d@comcast.com> <1184095995.554937.54710@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1184348803.851707.251730@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184608223.191162.210430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184608223.191162.210430@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eric Chomko wrote: > On Jul 14, 3:13 am, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> Eric Chomko wrote: >> >> :On Jul 10, 11:59 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: >> :> Eric Chomko wrote: >> :> >> :> :On Jul 10, 3:15 pm, Rich wrote::> Eric Chomko wrote: >> :> >> :> :> >> :> :> [...] >> :> :> >> :> :> > Martha Stewart served time. Paris Hilton served more time than Libby >> :> :> > did. Do you think it just that Libby's sentence was commuted? >> :> :> >> :> :> You know something, I've been trying to determine exactly what >> :> :> crime Libby committed? Best I can figure he could not remember >> :> :> what he told someone else. But he did not 'out' Vallery Plame, >> :> :> nor was she outed by anyone who had talked to Libby. I read >> :> :> somewhere that it was pretty widely known that she was a >> :> :> CIA agent anyway. >> :> : >> :> :It was not widely known about Plame when Novak reported that fact. The >> :> :fact that the WH would "fix" Joe Wilson for not following their party >> :> :line about uranium from Niger by outting his wife DOES seem to be what >> :> :occurred. Libby couldn't keep the story straight, was the right guy to >> :> :take the fall, only to have W commute his sentence. >> :> : >> :> >> :> Except nobody has been charged with that (not even the guy that admits >> :> telling Novak) and there's no evidence any such thing happened. >> : >> :So why did Armitage, who was quietly removed as Deputy Sec. of State, >> :tell Noval who Plame was at all? >> : >> :> There's not even good evidence that Plame *WAS* a covert agent within >> :> the meaning of the law. >> :> >> : >> :False. Congress would not have gone through the charade of bringer her >> :to Capital Hill if she was no covert at least to some level. >> : >> >> You tell me. Since he couldn't be connected back to the White House, >> Cheney, or Rove, his revealing that he was the one who did simply >> vanished from the ken of Lefty Loondom. > > Or a coverup they got away with...again. History will not be kind to > Bush and Co. when their papers, that they forget to redact, get into > the National Archives. Yes, they are THAT dumb to allow enough To remind you, Sandy Burglar went back and burgled the National Archives to destroy the un-redacted Clinton Legacy. So now we have dumb and dumber defined. Care to enlighten us on the cover-up Clinton is getting away with? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/component/option,com_wrapper/Itemid,8/ § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 14:15:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:15:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Bush admits his administration committed treason. References: <1o1d9355e0b02mi6qrm56d6g0ap3sm35ki@4ax.com> <1i15bbn.25twq41uq069qN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i15t7b.f3imt21m52i4eN%nobody@nowheres.com> <7VJli.7074$tj6.3671@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1i16yja.18cr4q812fvcivN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184609106.411745.40740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184609106.411745.40740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit z wrote: > On Jul 13, 4:42 pm, nob...@nowheres.com (the_blogologist) wrote: >> Kevin Cunningham wrote: > So your argument is that Bush was justified in invading Iraq and > getting us into a (up to now) 4 year war when he couldn't find WMD, > because Clinton found WMD and bombed them without having a war? And > this is all in furtherance of...... defeating al qaeda before they > strike again? > So your complaining that Al Qaeda hasn't attacked you? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 14:23:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:23:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush,misc.survivalism,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: False Flag Terror Attack Coming VERY Soon! References: <4699adf3$0$12823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <4699dc62$0$12799$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit * US * wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 10:39:39 -0500, Stuart Grey wrote: > >> I pointed out why Stalin was a liberal: > > You're still full of shit. That's false. > > Hatred of liberalism is a trait of those following > the lead of Hitler and Stalin. The failure to address > a message based on deprecation of a messenger is > a form of fallacy. > > Bush/Cheney et al lied about 9/11, as they also > gained more from it than anyone else. > > Means, motive, opportunity ... Kinda like the Duke Lacrosse team huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 14:39:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:39:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: az.general,tx.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh,ca.politics,talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: 50% reduction in troops on Mexico border References: <1184532212.159412.260120@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184535228.791057.220410@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Morton Davis wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184535228.791057.220410@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 15, 4:43 pm, Ted wrote: >>> The filthy government in Washington DC refuses to put 20,000 troops on >>> the border to >>> support the beleagured Border Patrol. >> That's because it's not congresscritters' families living far from >> the border that get victimized by the massive number of illegal aliens >> either living in the border area or passing through it daily. If just >> one senator's niece was among the American women getting raped by an >> illegal, > > Such rapes are few and far between. Partt of the problem is: 12 years old is > the legal age in Mexico. Here it's not 12 anywhere. So if an illegal talks > a15 year olds into bed - it's a rape. > > So if you carry a GUN to Mexico.... it's not you that's being a criminal, it's Mexico and their uninformed laws that's the problem? On the other hand we can send Mexico a plethora of pedophiles. That is a two way hole in the fence isn't it? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 15:00:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:00:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.true-crime,alt.politics.immigration,misc.immigration.usa Subject: Re: Should Police Investigate Crimes AGAINST Illegals? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote: > Hell no. When someone is robbed or raped or killed or mugged and the > cops find out the victim is illegal, they should just drop the matter. > That will encourage illegals to get back in their own country and won't > cost us a thing. Illegal alien problem solved. The Haitians and Mexicans come to the USA, not Cuba, why is that? If we in the USA could model our country after Cuba then we could stop all the illegal aliens and, according to Micheal Moore, make our health care system better. Lets take a LESSON from Castro and Michel Moore and Become NORTH Cuba rather than the USA. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 15:10:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:10:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: You Gotta Wonder ***WHY***... References: <1184367554.826027.4040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1i17u9i.7wc63l1fmed9vN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i18sp2.plowbc1pdwntgN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i1b4cz.1nrq5xr1n109hjN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: <1i1b4cz.1nrq5xr1n109hjN%nobody@nowheres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the_blogologist wrote: > Gleannfia wrote: > >> Bush didn't serve and was a coke-head. At least Kerry actually went to war > So what your saying is that Kerry is a war mongering, Baby killer and Bush is a peace activist, and deserter? So you want a baby killing Liberal instead of a cocaine sniffing Pseudo Conservative..... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 15:17:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:17:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.politics,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.howard-stern Subject: Re: ========> RIGHTARD INMATES ARE RUNNING THE AMERIKKKAN ASYLUM! <======= References: <1184544006.028535.188870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i1b3tn.pnviinzff39eN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: <1i1b3tn.pnviinzff39eN%nobody@nowheres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit the_blogologist wrote: > ChasNemo wrote: > >> Yup It's true. Rightard perspectives are totally deranged. It's >> astonishing that rightards can attack Clinton for the Monica lie, > > Clinton is a lawyer and a shrewd politician. He threw the dog a bone by > intentionally perjuring himself to get the heat off of whitewater and > the Vince Foster murder. If Hillary is elected then the first thing she will do is raise taxes so she can have enough in the budget to create a new Department of Shredding, the (DOS) and they'll spend the first four years shredding the old Clinton Documents, and the next four shredding hers. Burglary and stealing from the National Archives is easier when you have the keys. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com § Trying to reason with hurricane season § Their freez'n up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- From - Mon Jul 16 15:43:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:43:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: GLOBAL COLDENING References: <469860b2@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184613246.559218.63870@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184613246.559218.63870@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 14, 1:35 am, "Bonzo" wrote: >> Fear of a Global 'Coldening' >> >> By Tim Blair >> >> July 14, 2007 12:00am >> >> LAST month Australians endured our coldest June since 1950. > > I've heard the official thermometer is mounted right outside a freezer > door. It might be warmer inside the freezer. Missouri was like that.... many a night the temp outside was colder than my freezer, I just kept the freezer at zero Fahrenheit. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 15:47:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:47:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.archaeology,sci.astro Subject: Re: TUVALU TO GO UNDER.... THANKS TO NUCLEAR AUSTRALIA References: <1184495410.018426.313760@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8QPmi.8855$zA4.2396@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <8QPmi.8855$zA4.2396@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit greycaravel@peoplepc.com wrote: > But it's more demonstrable that the land is sinking. > > The propagandists claim whatever confirms their hypotheses to be fact.. > Scientists make observations and formulate hypotheses and then try to > disprove their hypotheses. This is a tear-jerker of a story about how the > Pacific Ocean is rising to engulf a paradise on Earth. > I'd like to see more of the scientific evidence. > > On the other hand, visit Venice, Italy and ask if the city is sinking or is > the Adriatic rising > and you will probably get a confused look which asks the question, Are you > kidding? Then there are also the cases of New Orleans, La and Galveston, Tx > Is the Gulf of Mexico rising or are the cities sinking? > Are the Netherlands raising the height of the dikes? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 15:50:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:50:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i194fr.12uvrss1nkq631N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184465256.927616.94400@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184614689.370587.120400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184614689.370587.120400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 14, 11:55 pm, "The Cunning Linguist" > wrote: >> "Roger Coppock" wrote in message >> >> news:1184465256.927616.94400@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >>> On Jul 14, 5:41 pm, nob...@nowheres.com (the_blogologist) wrote: >>>> The earth's temperature has gone up about 0.5 C this century. >>> That figure is very very very very misleading. >>> You need to look at the rate of increase in more detail. >>> Particularly, you need to look at the last 5 decades. >>> Please see: >>> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Slope1952-2006.jpg >> It's still cooler than the 10th century or during the period of time when >> mankind became civilized. >> >> > > You are lying. Every scientific body agrees that the hottest years on > record have been since 1990. > > "A dwindling group ... a small minority which is seeking to > deliberately confuse the public on the causes of climate change. They > are often misrepresenting the science, when the reality is that the > evidence is getting stronger every day" -- Royal Society > Don't you just hate it when someone confuses the public by giving them the facts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 15:54:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:54:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.true-crime,alt.politics.immigration,misc.immigration.usa Subject: Re: Should Police Investigate Crimes AGAINST Illegals? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kris Baker wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:IePmi.28260$3a.23749@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >> Lets take a LESSON from Castro and Michel Moore and Become NORTH Cuba >> rather than the USA. > > I'm travelling and Sicko isn't playing in this area. > > I'm sure you wouldn't comment like you did, unless > you'd seen it.....so you're a perfect person to give > us a review of the film. > > TIA > > Read on..... you might get my later point. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 15:56:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:56:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.usa,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: What the Fatherland Security Chief's gut missed References: <2f5n93lnio3dstfinhmfmatqq3asvbghr0@4ax.com> <469bc617$0$24717$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184615074.600334.132750@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184615074.600334.132750@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mordacpreventor@hotmail.com wrote: > On Jul 16, 9:25 am, "Jerry Okamura" wrote: >> And some of us think the government is able to protect us from a future >> attack? That playing defense is going to work? > > > Playing offense under Bush hasn't worked. So A Congressional surrender did? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 16:04:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:03:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.immigration,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: BUSH THE DIVIDERER GUY HAS DIVIDED THE USA LIKE NO OTHER PRESIDENT BEFORE References: <1184538744.799858.62440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4ekl939c75o0luepbm80lj5gl72vcvbtl6@4ax.com> <1184614327.027849.26670@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184614327.027849.26670@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BushRuinsTheWorldandtheUSA wrote: > On Jul 16, 12:22 pm, "Doug" wrote: >> "Graphic Queen" wrote in message >> >> news:4ekl939c75o0luepbm80lj5gl72vcvbtl6@4ax.com... >> >>> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:14:18 -0700, Joe wrote: >>>> I dunno... Lincoln set the bar fairly high. >>> You can best believe that Bush would love to see a civil war start in >>> this country so he could call martial law and other such crap he wants >>> so badly. >> That's a scary thought GQ. W as dictator would be about the worst thing >> I could imagine. > > doug and gq you are both in a dreamland, bush is already 1/2 dictator, > shitting on the constitution and not allowing anyone to testify before > congress, he is giving the middle finger to all americans, all he > needs to do to become full dicatator is Declare Martial Law and he is > very close to doing that as well. > Martial law... under the proof that Liberals are too stupid to save their own ass? How can anyone so devoid of knowledge play the sage to someone in search of direction. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 18:04:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:04:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.archaeology,sci.astro Subject: Re: TUVALU TO GO UNDER.... THANKS TO NUCLEAR AUSTRALIA References: <1184495410.018426.313760@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8QPmi.8855$zA4.2396@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Are the Netherlands raising the height of the dikes? > > Is there someone who could research some danish lesbian > porn movies and let us know? In the interests of science > of course. :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich > > thanx guys my eyes were starting to burn. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 18:24:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:24:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.archaeology,sci.astro Subject: Re: TUVALU TO GO UNDER.... THANKS TO NUCLEAR AUSTRALIA References: <1184495410.018426.313760@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8QPmi.8855$zA4.2396@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > greycaravel@peoplepc.com wrote: >> But it's more demonstrable that the land is sinking. >> >> The propagandists claim whatever confirms their hypotheses to be fact.. >> Scientists make observations and formulate hypotheses and then try to >> disprove their hypotheses. This is a tear-jerker of a story about how >> the >> Pacific Ocean is rising to engulf a paradise on Earth. >> I'd like to see more of the scientific evidence. >> >> On the other hand, visit Venice, Italy and ask if the city is sinking >> or is >> the Adriatic rising >> and you will probably get a confused look which asks the question, Are >> you >> kidding? Then there are also the cases of New Orleans, La and >> Galveston, Tx >> Is the Gulf of Mexico rising or are the cities sinking? >> > > Are the Netherlands raising the height of the dikes? > > > I did hear they were the tallest on earth today. Americans are second tallest.... But they said people, I said dikes. So how tall is an American Dike, I think we can estimate the height and calculate the heat and show they are causing global warming. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 16 21:56:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:56:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i194fr.12uvrss1nkq631N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i1ak78.svxu8d154v5kN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whata Fool wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:40:42 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> You go and - pay back the FED - one million dollars, they ask where's >> the interest? What would you say? >> >> I'd say you(the Fed) have to print it, so I can give it to the FED, I >> can't give a million one hundred thousand if you only printed one >> million of these(dollars). >> >> There it is... never ending debt. With every dollar there is interest, >> that you can never pay. > > That may be a good bar story, but I suggest you study about > the FRB and the member banks all across the country, they have all > deposited money, and can borrow money from the FRB, but money > is not "money", it is record keeping, set up to make it as simple and > easy as possible. > > People have always been able to write IOUs, whether they > have collateral or not. Study the currency failures that have > occurred, like Belgium around 1960 or before (the only one I was told > details about). National banks have different problems than the > FRB, the good news is, the FRB has deposited more excess profits into > the U.S. Treasury over the years than the present amount of currency > in circulation (my estimate), and that nixes your story. > > > OK you say they have deposited more excess profits into the treasury than what's in circulation? I'm not sure if your disagreeing, you appear to be confirming the premise that was put forth... You tend to agree that from somewhere they get lots of money? Depositing.... does that equal gifting? If drug dealers handle money like this we call it money laundering by ORGANIZED CRIME and use the RICO act to confiscate everything right down to the paper clips. Do they keep a slush fund? They don't allow anyone to audit them either, so the Congress invited them to have someone of their choice to audit them. That's like what *Enron* did, if you remember. The Bar story simply cuts through all the extra words accountants and lawyers charge big bucks for, and insurance sales men use to confuse people, so yes it does cut to the heart without distracting from the truth. CONFUSE AND ~CONQUER~ . I'd bet you like reading insurance paperwork. Maybe you sell insurance? As for NIXING the story, sorry but in fact you agree with the story. The story said that they get money that they create from thin air(all be it the air is saturated with co2 and may not be so thin) and that money is given to the FED to Loan at the interest rate - they set, then take the proceeds to do what? Give some of the Money from their pyramid scheme back to the budget deficit? OK but if you think your dollar is worth anything, I'll sell you some Enron stock. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 15:59:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:59:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <46c1b484.3891624400@news.giganews.com> <1184681236.701243.46460@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184681236.701243.46460@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BradGuth wrote: > On Jul 17, 5:23 am, simberg.interglo...@org.trash (Rand Simberg) > wrote: >> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:27:57 -0400, in a place far, far away, >> "Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow >> in such a way as to indicate that: >> >>> I've seen such panic situations with my own eyes >>> several times, as i live in Miami. Trust me when I say >>> when the day comes the world realizes the oil party >>> is over, it'll all come crashing down ....overnight. >>> Not a steady decline, but in a panic. >> Nonsense. "Peak oil" is a myth. We have huge reserves in shale and >> tar sands, which become economically viable at prices below the >> current ones. > > At $100+ per barrel, there's oil in most anything. > > At $1000/barrel we can make oil out of gems. Otherwise human bodies > can be processed into oil. > > What's the BTU rating of a good Muslim, or via most anything other > that's alive and kicking? > - > Brad Guth > Depends on whether they're fattening up at GITMO or living in a cave somewhere in Pakistan. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 16:02:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:02:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <1184680708.002899.254130@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184680708.002899.254130@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BradGuth wrote: > On Jul 17, 12:20 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" > wrote: >> "Jonathan" wrote >> >> >> >>> I'm stating the obvious when I claim it's our dependence >>> on fossil fuels. >> [snip] >> >> There is no more Peak Oil. >> >> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,490207,00.html >> (maybe this is somewhere in english too, didn't look for it) >> >> Off shore of South East Asia more and more natural gas and oil is >> discovered. >> The lucky one is Vietnam, where the fields stretch like a carpet >> from north to south, among them a supergiant field like in >> Saudi Arabia. >> ... >> From probe boreholes at Sihanoukville Chevron found oil with >> 4 of 5 boreholes. Chevron calls this significant. >> They estimate 500 billion barrels of oil within 6 fields, and that's >> only the beginning. >> >> Royal Dutch Shell is drilling off shore from Sabah, wherefrom starting >> to convey 350 billion barrels at coming autumn. >> >> Vietnam opens up 3 new blocks of about 700 billion barrels in the >> Cuu-Long bassin and JapanVietnam Pertoleum discovers another >> field with 37 billion barrels. >> >> The supergiant field however is located in the Song-Hong bassin >> with an estimated volume of 5 trillion barrels. > > The Vietnam war was in fact all about the taking of their oil, and > nothing else. I kid you not. > - > Brad Guth > That one worked so well, that we decided to do it again? It'd be easier to buy camels and right-off the oil -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 18:11:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:11:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Phoenix Looking Like Mars! References: <1184707438.434422.144980@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184707438.434422.144980@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: > Ok, I know this isn't scientifically conclusive in any way, but you > got to wonder if these events are related. > More closely related to the 1930's dust bowl. Some people think the weather cycles, go figure. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 18:17:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:17:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fabian socialism will be destroyed in the US and Europe References: <1184599985.250518.178200@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184623450.228172.321520@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184623450.228172.321520@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 16, 4:33 pm, taxationistheft2...@lycos.com wrote: >> >> >>> And global warming is still a myth for the gullible and foolish. >> I agree .The greenhouse effect is also. > > ...And Bush did 9/11, dinosaurs walked with men, and no one landed on the > moon. lol > > NASA used Global warming scientist to do calculations and serve as moon shot navigators, That's why we missed the moon and had to fake a movie to convince the masses we were there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 18:19:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 18:19:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,nz.politics Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE ! AUSTRALIA SCI000NTIFIC CONVICT REJECT GLOBAL WARMING REALITY References: <1184647357.787475.275140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184647357.787475.275140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> So, while Tuvalu is going under the waves, those Antipodean >> australian cunts are pretending NO GLOBAL WARMING TAKING PLACE >> Read that article in that The Age rag of Melbourne, australia. Not >> only that australian convict rabble liars, thieves and criminals deny >> the evidence, but as well do not see they are in first line to cash >> of prizes of their Collective Crimes !!! Interesting ! >> No wonder that Antipodean Manure has not the least courtesy, nor of >> course reach the moral standards present in all animals indeed, >> allowing feeling of gratitude & recognition ! I don't know really in >> what category one can qualify that population crawling like crabs on >> that HELL ON EARTH of australia >> >> Please read on now ! >> >> ************************ >> >> >> GLOBAL WARMING ZEALOTS ARE STIFLING SCIENTIFIC DEBATE >> GLOBAL WARMING ZEALOTS ARE STIFLING *SCIENCE*. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 20:48:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:48:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: ***WOWSER!!*** STOCK MARKET OVER 14,000!!! ***YOWSER!!*** References: <1184700209.255369.12060@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bîllary/2008 wrote: > "Flash Bazbo" wrote in message > news:nt9q93lk9v5dhu3si3df6gf72v2dgheqj0@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:23:29 -0700, "theloneranger100@aol.com" >> wrote: >> >>> Yup.......At 3:10PM ET: 14,009.11.........The Stock Market is >>> ROARING.........THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BUSH!!..........Heehee.......... >> YUP.....At 3:10PM ET: OVER 8 TRILLION DOLLARS.........The NATIONAL >> DEBT is SOARING.......THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BUSH.......It's not a >> laughing matter.......... > > That's a lie. RECORD tax revnues are pouring in thanks to the stock market. > The debt is coming down. We are creating debt less fast... Neither party is interested in reducing the National debt, they talk of balancing the budget. The *budget* and the *National debt* are totally different. The National debt is money already spent and we owe it to someone. The budget is the yearly funds to be spent to maintain the government. If Government spends more than it takes in, then the *deficit* amount spent becomes part of the National debt. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 20:55:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:55:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: ***WOWSER!!*** STOCK MARKET OVER 14,000!!! ***YOWSER!!*** References: <1184700829.091957.20350@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The People's Party wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184700829.091957.20350@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> Yup.......At 3:10PM ET: 14,009.11.........The Stock Market is >> ROARING.........THANK YOU, PRESIDENT BUSH!!..........Heehee.......... > > Thank you, > Signed, > Cheney, Halliburton and Walmart. Al Gore, Hillary, Soros, Waren Buffett.... Democrats getting rich. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 22:50:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 22:50:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Phoenix Looking Like Mars! References: <1184707438.434422.144980@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TZTZTZ wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184707438.434422.144980@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> Ok, I know this isn't scientifically conclusive in any way, but you >> got to wonder if these events are related. > > Arizona's a red state. Nuff said. > > California is blue, damn fires, earth quakes, mud slides... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 17 23:54:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:54:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: You Gotta Wonder ***WHY***... References: <1184367554.826027.4040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1i17u9i.7wc63l1fmed9vN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i18sp2.plowbc1pdwntgN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184726459.493632.4200@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1i1evsq.2mrc3716zvlwdN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clave wrote: > "the_blogologist" wrote in message > news:1i1evsq.2mrc3716zvlwdN%nobody@nowheres.com... > > <...> > >> Ties to al Qaeda: >> >> The 9-11 commission did find ties between Iraq and al Qaeda. >> http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4241/911commtiesandlies7my.jpg >> http://www.9-11commission.gov >> >> Links between Saddam and al Qaeda: >> http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23264 >> >> http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4053/seenowmd1td.jpg > > Holy sheesh. > > I'll bet you think Clinton was convicted of perjury too. > > Jim > > He said she swallowed and they found a stain on the blue dress, so he perjured himself. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 00:08:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:08:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Liberalism It Doesn't Make Sense>>Re: You Gotta Wonder ***WHY***... References: <1184367554.826027.4040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1i17u9i.7wc63l1fmed9vN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i18sp2.plowbc1pdwntgN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184726459.493632.4200@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1i1evsq.2mrc3716zvlwdN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: <1i1evsq.2mrc3716zvlwdN%nobody@nowheres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>> So lets see how much good has come our of your killing 3,500+ of our >>>> brave troops and injuring 25,000+? Lets look at the ledger here..... >>>> nothing, not a thing. Iraq is a broken country, broken by us. Why >>>> did we even invade? I still don't get that. Iraq was broken before we got there, like Bosnia was... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 00:41:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:41:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i194fr.12uvrss1nkq631N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i1ak78.svxu8d154v5kN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Governor Swill wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:56:47 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> You tend to agree that from somewhere they get lots of money? >> Depositing.... does that equal gifting? If drug dealers handle money >> like this we call it money laundering by ORGANIZED CRIME and use the >> RICO act to confiscate everything right down to the paper clips. > > The cocaine trade has poured tens of billions of dollars into South > America. The problem is, the people and governments there can't get > their hands on most of it. > > You want to know why the Mexican border is open? Because that's where > Americans get most of their marijuana and weed sales to the US are an > important part of Mexico's "foreign exchange reserves". > > Since it is vital to US interests to get the world using as currency a > denomination that the US controls, there is little interest at high > levels in sealing the border. They'd have to come up with another way > to get cash into Mexico. > > Swill Clinton just wrote a check for 70 billion and mailed it to the Mexicans....He cut out the middle men(drug dealers)and stole it out of taxpayers pockets. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 00:55:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:54:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Deniers of global warming harm us References: <1184140207.954847.129960@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i194fr.12uvrss1nkq631N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i1ak78.svxu8d154v5kN%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Governor Swill wrote: > On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:57:48 -0900, Whata Fool wrote: > >> People have always been able to write IOUs, whether they >> have collateral or not. Study the currency failures that have >> occurred, like Belgium around 1960 or before (the only one I was told >> details about). National banks have different problems than the >> FRB, the good news is, the FRB has deposited more excess profits into >> the U.S. Treasury over the years than the present amount of currency >> in circulation (my estimate), and that nixes your story. > > What goes around, comes around. The FRB is a printing press but > because they have a tradition of managing the money supply > responsibly, the rest of the globe has decided that even though > dollars aren't backed by anything except the US reputation, they will > continue to play a growing role in the development of the global > economy. > > Empire used to be about who controlled what territories. This brought > about wars. By the last century our weapons had become so terrible > that we dared not risk war so new means of assuring national security > and achieving global dominance have come about. > > Today, empire is built with economics and by agreement between the > 'mother state' (the US) and it's 'provinces' (everybody else). Pax > Americana today is enforced far more by economics than by military > strength. Economics even dictates where that strength will be > applied. No country that adheres to dollars as a backing for their > own currency has to worry about being invaded by anybody except stupid > or poor neighbors. Iraq got invaded because they switched their oil > trade and foreign exchange reserves to euros. This is why the > principal EU nations would not support Iraq while the poorer ones did. > This also explains why Britain and Norway accepted the US position. > They declined the euro and kept their own currency because as oil > producers, they have plenty of dollars to back it with. > > Swill That covered some new ground; it sums up into the same thing though, the Fed is a scheme to control us and as many others as possible. Since we're not going to get rid of them, it doesn't amount to much, just that while they fool the rest of the world, their enslaving us into economic slavery also. Working to pay a debt that can't be paid. Not that I care particularly, I intend to go out as I came in, broke - naked and my face buried in a pair of jugs. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 11:10:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:10:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: the experts are wrong References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy wrote: >> So there is no contradiction; both cooling and warming >> are the results of human activity. >> >> -- >> altheim > > > So the experts were telling us that up till the 1970s human activity was > going to cause the earth to cool down. Then they changed their minds and > decided that human activity was going to cause the earth to heat up. > When are they going to change their minds next? Their running out of choices, Cold, hot ..... what's next? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 11:19:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:19:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: the experts are wrong References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Andy" wrote: >> The called it Global Warming first. >> Changed it to Climate Change. >> What next? >> Temperature Variance? >> In the1970s it was Global Cooling. >> >> When will they make their minds up? > > The experts (referring to your subject line) are not wrong - > at least not for the reason you state above: > Throw out some more and if these old guesses don't work out then maybe the new ones will.... Ever play craps? Spread out the chips and you have a better chance. > > So there is no contradiction; both cooling and warming > are the results of human activity. > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 11:31:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:31:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <1184759223.048023.156030@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184759223.048023.156030@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit einarbb@gmail.com wrote: > Jonathan wrote: >> I'm stating the obvious when I claim it's our dependence >> on fossil fuels. >> >> But what I think few understand is just how quickly >> the world oil market could collapse. Do you realize >> that OPEC bases its annual oil production quotas >> partially on the estimated reserves a member >> country claims? >> >> Which means a country can pump more oil each >> year if it claims larger reserves in the ground. >> >> It's been documented that many OPEC countries have >> over estimated their reserves by as much as 50%. >> How much do we trust the stated oil reserves >> of countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Nigeria, Russia >> Kuwait and Venezuela? >> >> "How Credible Are Proven Oil Reserves:" >> The Case of Iran, Russia & Canada >> >> "Among the principal beneficiaries of these revisions are Iran whose proven >> reserves have gone up from 89.7 bb at the beginning of 2003 to130.7 bb in >> 2004 and then to 132.5 bb in 2005 and Russia from 48.6 bb to 69.1 bb and >> then to 72.3 bb at a time when no major discoveries were reported in >> these two countries in 2003 or 2004." >> http://www.odac-info.org/assessments/documents/MamdSal_25thNAEConf.pdf >> >> MIDDLE EAST OIL - REALITY AND ILLUSION >> >> "In 1985, Kuwait added 50% to its reported reserves although nothing >> particular had changed in the oilfield. Three years later, Venezuela doubled >> its reserves by the inclusion of long-known but not previously counted, >> heavy oil reserves. That forced Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Iran and Iraq to >> retaliate with massive increases to protect their OPEC quota, which >> was based partly on reserves. Saudi Arabia followed in 1990 increasing >> its reported reserves from 170 Gb to 257.5 Gb, an estimate that has >> barely changed since, despite intervening production of some 37 Gb." >> http://www.peakoil.net/Publications/REALITY_AND_ILLUSION.pdf >> >> >> .................................................. >> >> >> It's easy to assume that when oil finally does begin >> running out, that the decline will be steady and >> predictable over a number of years. >> >> But think about that for a moment. Has anyone >> ever been in a city the moment it becomes clear >> a hurricane is going to hit? That city goes from >> a normally functioning well supplied operation >> to being completely wiped out of all cash, gas >> and food in .....THREE HOURS FLAT! >> >> I've seen such panic situations with my own eyes >> several times, as i live in Miami. Trust me when I say >> when the day comes the world realizes the oil party >> is over, it'll all come crashing down ....overnight. >> >> Not a steady decline, but in a panic. >> >> One day they'll be some news event, some story that gets >> everyones attention. Such as how Hurricane Katrina >> has galvanized the global warming movement. >> And everything will change overnight. >> >> Maybe another story like this will come out, except >> about the Saudi oil fields......... >> >> "Mexico's Cantarell oil field, the world's second largest producer, >> is beginning to dry up" >> http://www.scdigest.com/assets/newsViews/07-04-11-1.php?cid=1017&ctype=content >> >> >> Or maybe a story like this........... >> >> "It was an incredible revelation last week that the second largest >> oil field in the world is exhausted and past its peak output. >> Yet that is what the Kuwait Oil Company revealed about >> its Burgan field." >> http://www.ameinfo.com/71519.html >> >> >> Countries will start hording instead of pumping when that >> Katrina-like event occurs. >> Everyone /at once/ will keep what they have for >> themselves and bunker down. >> >> If America is not ready for that day, our country >> could become a ghost of its former self in the >> blink of an eye. >> >> Did you know George Bush cancelled an ambitious >> NASA Space Solar Power program, which could ultimately >> lead to the US becoming the energy "King" of the future? >> And replaced that program with another moon shot? >> >> More ...moon rocks... instead of ensuring our future? >> >> During the next Presidential election, we need to demand >> the wasteful return to the moon be 'aborted' and this program >> below be ....reinstated. >> >> This is the path to replacing fossil fuels for the long term. >> It's the path to a bright future for America. >> It's the path to end global warming. >> And an end to a future where Islam dominates us all. >> >> Let's make America the next energy "Saudi Arabia". >> >> >> Executive Summary >> NASA'S SPACE SOLAR POWER EXPLORATORY RESEARCH AND >> TECHNOLOGY (SERT) PROGRAM >> http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?isbn=0309075971 >> >> The National Aeronautics and Space Administration's Space Solar Power (SSP) >> Exploratory Research and Technology (SERT) program was charged to develop >> technologies needed to provide cost-competitive ground baseload electrical >> power from space-based solar energy converters. >> >> >> The SERT program was established in FY 1999 and continued through FY 2000 by >> U.S. congressional appropriation. An additional appropriation was also >> funded for SSP Research and Technology (SSP R&T) for FY 2001. Decisions on >> internal NASA budget allocations for FY 2002 were pending during review and >> publication of this report. >> >> >> The program has identified several flight demonstration milestones in order >> to test technologies and concepts in the near-term and mid-term in >> preparation for transferring the technologies to industry for final >> full-scale development and implementation. A more specific treatment of >> these flight demonstrations and key program milestones can be found >> in Section 2-1. >> >> The program has identified an investment portfolio for a future SSP program >> with planned resource allocation through 2016 (see Table D-l). >> Technology flight demonstrations (referred to by NASA as MSCs) are >> scheduled in FY 2006-2007, FY 2011-2012, and FY 2016. >> >> From 2002 to 2006 the funding request for SSP was respectively >> >> $88million >> $124million >> $211million >> $282million >> $312million >> .................................................. >> >> >> "Chairman Rohrabacher opened the hearing by stating that >> space solar power (SSP) is "precisely what NASA as an >> agency should be all about" - He stated that NASA's lack >> of preparation to follow up on SSP, a concept that, he claimed, >> "cries out for further research," may be because NASA wants >> to focus on human space flight, "in hopes of reclaiming the >> glory days of Apollo." He wants NASA to take the next measured >> step in research, and believes that this visionary approach would >> reap huge public support for NASA ." >> >> Hearing on "Space Solar Power: A Fresh Look" before the >> Subcommittee on Space and Aeronautics of the House >> Committee on Science, October 24, 1997. >> http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/legaff/solar.html >> >> >> Space Solar Power >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_solar_power >> >> Space Solar Power Concept And Technology Maturation Program >> Nasa Glenn Research Center >> http://space-power.grc.nasa.gov/ppo/publications/sctm/ >> >> Pentagon Considering Study on Space-Based Solar Power >> Thursday, April 12, 2007 >> By Jeremy Singer >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,265380,00.html >> >> MIT Space Solar Power Workshop >> http://web.mit.edu/space_solar_power/ >> >> >> s > > You may not be avare of what Germany did during WW2. But after the > loss of the Ploesty oilfields captured by the Red Army in late year > 1944, they managed to find a new source for petrol/gas on theyr tanks > and planes. Now, this is fact not fiction. What were the Germans able > to do? They refined gas/petrol out of coal. It can be done, its > expensive but there is enough coal to last next 3 - 400 years, > according to current use and at least 100 years with greatly expanded > use. > > Cheers, Einar > Jet engines run on almost anything, Turbine engines are great like that and yet the airlines aren't looking for a way out of fossil, no one's changing cars from cylinders to turbines. Greens ignore them. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 11:59:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:59:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: First 6 months of 2007 were warmest recorded on land References: <1184734937.583922.300820@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > wrote >> NOAA Global Highlights >> >> "The combined global land and ocean surface temperature was the second >> warmest on record for the January-June six-month period. > > Ahhh, do we measure now in 6-month peroids? > That's hilariuos, because this has no significance. > > On the other hand it shows again, that GISS data must be false > due to known problems. > http://www.surfacestations.org > Still rising temperatures within this data set should be examined. > The trend of temperature of the last decade shows clearly cooling. > > > Lets average the temps in 100 year lots or 32 year or what ever grouping will make it appear the globe is heating. Just write a computer model to forecast on the cherry picked data. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 12:38:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:38:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.california,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.democrats,talk.politics.mideast,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Extremists moving north, 80 killed Kirkuk References: <1184625287.009139.253520@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <5g30buF3ekl5hU1@mid.individual.net> <1184772785.083415.273760@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184772785.083415.273760@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Branson Hunter wrote: > On Jul 16, 9:55 pm, "Jim E" wrote: >> "Branson Hunter" wrote in message >> >> news:1184625287.009139.253520@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> >>> BAGHDAD - A triple bombing, including a massive suicide truck blast, >>> killed more than 80 people Monday in Kirkuk, the deadliest attack yet >>> in the oil-rich northern city. The bloodshed reinforced concern that >>> extremists are heading north as U.S.-led forces step up pressure >>> around Baghdad. >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070716/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_070716170630;... >> More proof that the only way to civilize arab land is to totally depopulate >> it and perhaps repopulate in a few thousand years. > > What about the children, how would you euphonize them? And how would > you carry out your criminal fantasies? > > Branson > We only have to wait... the children are blowing themselves up everyday thanks to the old Arabs, So all we need to do is listen to the Democrats and pull out then isolate the area as Democrats want, from the rest of the world and wait. The Democrats would be fine with the killing as long as they can un-declare war and surrender. If we're losers then dying children are someone they can send money or hold a concert for and get stoned - and it makes a good subject to use to get in the liberal girls pants. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 12:53:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:53:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Bush admits his administration committed treason. References: <1o1d9355e0b02mi6qrm56d6g0ap3sm35ki@4ax.com> <1i15bbn.25twq41uq069qN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i15t7b.f3imt21m52i4eN%nobody@nowheres.com> <7VJli.7074$tj6.3671@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1i16yja.18cr4q812fvcivN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184609106.411745.40740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <3AOmi.27820$3a.26492@bignews9.bellsouth.net> <1184770101.593948.296870@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184770101.593948.296870@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 16, 2:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> So your argument is that Bush was justified in invading Iraq and >>> getting us into a (up to now) 4 year war when he couldn't find WMD, >>> because Clinton found WMD and bombed them without having a war? And >>> this is all in furtherance of...... defeating al qaeda before they >>> strike again? >> So your complaining that Al Qaeda hasn't attacked you? > > "We assess the group has protected or regenerated key elements of its > Homeland attack capability, including: a safehaven in the Pakistan > Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational lieutenants, > and its top leadership. ... We assess that al-Qa'ida will continue to > enhance its capabilities to attack the Homeland through greater > cooperation with regional terrorist groups. Of note, we assess that al- > Qa'ida will probably seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities of > al-Qa'ida in Iraq (AQI), its most visible and capable affiliate and > the only one known to have expressed a desire to attack the Homeland. > In addition, we assess that its association with AQI helps al-Qa'ida > to energize the broader Sunni extremist community, raise resources, > and to recruit and indoctrinate operatives, including for Homeland > attacks." > -National Intelligence Estimate: The Terrorist Threat to the US > Homeland > > (In simple words for the rightwingers in the crowd: the Iraqi war has > been a help for al Qaida, while it has protected itself in Pakistan). > Who won the war? Since Senator Harry Reid announced we lost the war on terror, we need to know who won and what do we do to keep 9-11 from happening if we can't beat the enemy? Since you not a General, and since you don't know the strategy for beating Al Qaeda, I'll stick with the Commander in Chief who gets more info. My guess would be that "D" -day wasn't common knowledge either. Why hire a General and then do the job yourself anyways, that would be poor management of a project. If the General gets no results then replace him, but to meddle in his business and then blame him when your meddling caused the problem sounds like a Democrat. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:03:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:03:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Bush admits his administration committed treason. References: <1o1d9355e0b02mi6qrm56d6g0ap3sm35ki@4ax.com> <1i15bbn.25twq41uq069qN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i15t7b.f3imt21m52i4eN%nobody@nowheres.com> <7VJli.7074$tj6.3671@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1i16yja.18cr4q812fvcivN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184609106.411745.40740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1i1ciks.17uk9av1g7hlu6N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184767821.249186.317960@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184767821.249186.317960@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 16, 5:41 pm, nob...@nowheres.com (the_blogologist) wrote: > >> The concept that you seem to have difficulty grasping is that if Bush >> lied about WMD, then so did a lot of other people including the former >> US president and the democrat who was almost our current president who >> just happened to be on the Senate Intelligence Committee for EIGHT YEARS >> and cast his vote in the Senate for the war.- > > The concept that you seem to have difficulty grasping is that the Bush > administration told us that there was an imminent threat from Saddam's > WMD which required immediate military intervention. Perhaps you can > show me where the democrat who was almost our current president said > that. > It was a Global Consensus that Sadom had WMD and as with global warming, we all know that the Consensus of Global warming means that it's as good as facts. If you accept Consensus for one decision, you'd be a hypocrite not to accept on the other. So which is it? Is the Consensus of Global warming wrong or was the consensus of WMD wrong? BBBBWWWWAAAahhahaahhhahaha Liberals always paint themselves in a corner with their "logic" that never is. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:08:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:08:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Why the Left WON'T Fight? They CAN'T!!! References: <1184765811.387055.198300@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184765811.387055.198300@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wolfagain wrote: > Imagine going into battle with little dennie Kucinich on your flank? > allen combs? Oliphant? Pencil neck Hussain Obama? Al Franken? Dingy? > little harry hopeless? our resident sissy boy with many usernames? > Need I go on? WE always have Ann! Ann Coulter! More of a man than most > libs. > The Riots in France have shined a new light on just how peaceful the left is, it's interesting that they'll fight over a fair election when they don't gain power. The "Liberal Peace Party" Gotta love all that Flowers in the gun barrels stuff, but when the reality of it hits that they didn't get their way, they manage to grow gonads and break things and hurt people. Sounds like a military, breaking things and hurting people. Just Hypocrites on a rampage. Why is it that Socialist/Liberals can't fight and burn and threaten terrorist or countries harboring terrorists yet if your a Socialist/Liberal it's OK to threaten innocent vehicle owners and shop keepers and police and civilians with bodily harm and potential death? Thank you (Socialist/Liberals in France) for showing your true colors, we now see that it's not violence that you hate, it's failure to gain power. Now that we all know you can participate in violence and not offend your tender feelings, you can help stop the Muslim murderers around the world, instead of hiding behind some phony sense of being superior and magnanimous. -- I love to point out Liberal Hypocrisy An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:11:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:11:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.gw-bush,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Bush Wants His Vacation, Dammit! References: <1184765253.689899.310960@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184765253.689899.310960@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tab wrote: > On Jul 17, 9:43 am, "The People's Party" > wrote: >> Bush Endorses Iraq Parliament's Month-Long Vacationhttp://www.progressivedailybeacon.com/more.php?page=opinion&id=1608 >> A. Alexander, July 15th, 2007 >> >> While U.S. troops continued to fight, bleed, and die in Iraq's sweltering >> summer heat the Bush administration's press manipulator, Tony 'FOX News' >> Snow, made excuses for the Iraqi parliament's decision to take off the >> entire month of August. According to Snow, Iraq's summers are just too hot >> for anyone to be bothered with the trivial matter of governing a country >> tottering on the precipice of disintegration. The Iraqi government's >> vacation plans and Snow's comments came just one day after the president >> claimed that his latest 'surge' was on the verge of 'progress'. Mister Bush, >> as usual, insisted that the United States couldn't leave Iraq anytime soon, >> because the country's military and police wouldn't be able to maintain all >> that peace and security, currently being enjoyed by the people there. Iraq' >> Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, however feels differently. >> >> People are dying and Bush and his puppet fascists are to take vacations. > > Frankly if you watch Baloney Ho (tony snow) carefully even he is > starting to run out of LIES to tell! > > Can't be, The Democrats have proven there is an endless number of lies, it's more well proven by the Democrats than Global Warming. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:16:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:16:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush,misc.survivalism,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: False Flag Terror Attack Coming VERY Soon! References: <0sen939gmrl0ia3i62uiush22fe7snh26n@4ax.com> <8ugn935ahip4hv8i050cg7iukohe7d238d@4ax.com> <5mln93pphmqttq3fi9rql7b8rjm8fl95g5@4ax.com> <6pedncIg45nr8wDbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com> <3v6dnUNIptW4EgDbnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mitchell Holman wrote: > Stuart Grey wrote in > news:3v6dnUNIptW4EgDbnZ2dnUVZ_qXinZ2d@comcast.com: > >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:28:00 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >>> Stuart Grey wrote in >>> news:6pedncIg45nr8wDbnZ2dnUVZ_szinZ2d@comcast.com: >>> >>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:36:59 +0000, Gunner Asch wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:21:11 GMT, David Johnston >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Translation: " I keep getting my ass kicked >>>>>> Do I? Just because you repeat "Liberals have no use for liberty" over >>>>>> and over again? It's a lie. >>>>> >>>>> So its NOT the Liberals who keep trying to ban guns or pass draconian >>>>> gun control laws and gutting the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution? >>>>> >>>>> Gunner >>>> And your right to freely associate, because some people don't play well >>>> with others. Or the right to not incriminate yourself, as we see with >>>> the Fitzgerald non-criminal investigation to see who doesn't have a >>>> perfect memory after 2 years... or the current "lets investigate the >>>> President using his Presidential power in ways we don't like but are >>>> perfectly legit". >>>> >>>> Or the current "hate crimes" bill that would outlaw free speech. Or how >>>> liberals baned free speech on college campuses; I saw how the campus >>>> cops threw the College Republicans off campus for having the audacity > to >>>> be assaulted and battered by liberals! >>> >>> "College Republicans". >>> >>> Idealistic youth who support the war but have >>> no intention of serving in it themselves. >>> >>> Scratch a conservative, find a Chickenhawk......... >> Changing the subject? > > > Ahem. YOU brought up college Republicans, remember? > > So tell us why they even exist. Shouldn't they be > serving in the war they support? Or are they waiting > for the Bush twins to enlist first? > > > > >> Are you too embarrassed by the liberals strong arm >> thuggish assault and then the removal of the victims for exercising free >> speech to discuss that, huh? Instead, you have this idiot lie. I suggest >> you go visit the on campus ROTC, and find out how many of them are >> Republicans. According to Army Times, they run some 68% Republican to > some >> 13% Democrat. > > > Why aren't your College Republicans just bypassing > ROTC and *enlisting* in war they support? If ALL the Americans who love this country went to fight, it would just leave Liberals here to sack the country and even winning the war would result in the ruination of the country by the Liberals. Think back to WWI... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:38:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:38:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fabian socialism will be destroyed in the US and Europe References: <1184599985.250518.178200@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184623450.228172.321520@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:Vdbni.206$qe5.72@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> Server 13 wrote: >>> wrote in message >>> news:1184623450.228172.321520@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... >>>> On Jul 16, 4:33 pm, taxationistheft2...@lycos.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> And global warming is still a myth for the gullible and foolish. >>>> I agree .The greenhouse effect is also. >>> ...And Bush did 9/11, dinosaurs walked with men, and no one landed on >>> the moon. lol >> NASA used Global warming scientist to do calculations and serve as moon >> shot navigators, That's why we missed the moon and had to fake a movie to >> convince the masses we were there. > > D'OH!!!!! > > Homer Simpson moment? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:45:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:45:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,nz.politics Subject: Re: INCREDIBLE ! AUSTRALIA SCI000NTIFIC CONVICT REJECT GLOBAL WARMING REALITY References: <1184647357.787475.275140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:Cfbni.207$qe5.14@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> Server 13 wrote: >>> wrote in message >>> news:1184647357.787475.275140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>> So, while Tuvalu is going under the waves, those Antipodean >>>> australian cunts are pretending NO GLOBAL WARMING TAKING PLACE >>>> Read that article in that The Age rag of Melbourne, australia. Not >>>> only that australian convict rabble liars, thieves and criminals deny >>>> the evidence, but as well do not see they are in first line to cash >>>> of prizes of their Collective Crimes !!! Interesting ! >>>> No wonder that Antipodean Manure has not the least courtesy, nor of >>>> course reach the moral standards present in all animals indeed, >>>> allowing feeling of gratitude & recognition ! I don't know really in >>>> what category one can qualify that population crawling like crabs on >>>> that HELL ON EARTH of australia >>>> >>>> Please read on now ! >>>> >>>> ************************ >>>> >>>> >>>> GLOBAL WARMING ZEALOTS ARE STIFLING SCIENTIFIC DEBATE >>>> >> GLOBAL WARMING ZEALOTS ARE STIFLING *SCIENCE*. > > lol How come they're the only ones speaking on the subject who are doing > any? Almost everyone else is mouthy oil geologists and economists. > > Tell it to Kennedy Jr., the one who'd jail dissenters of his science. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 13:57:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 13:57:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Bush admits his administration committed treason. References: <1o1d9355e0b02mi6qrm56d6g0ap3sm35ki@4ax.com> <1i15bbn.25twq41uq069qN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184781270.689459.100650@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184781270.689459.100650@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 13, 12:54 pm, "Lamont Cranston" > wrote: > >>> Plame was covert according to CIA director Gen. Michael V. Haydenm >>> as shown in these court filings. >> Until Druggie Limbaugh says she was covert, the wingnuts will continue >> to insist that she wasn't and won't be bothered by facts. >> > > You liberals know very well that the only covert agent the US has is > the Vice President, whose name is being concealed for reasons of > national security. > You forgot Al Gore(oooppps just outed him) he's covertly running a disinformation Black OPS, code named Global Warming.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 14:10:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:10:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: What Ratings did ExXon's "Dead Earth" Get? References: <1184681713.675621.293720@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184780626.729067.38980@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184780626.729067.38980@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 17, 7:15 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> http://www.cinemablend.com/television/Live-Earth-Concert-Earns-Histor... >> >> Live Earth Concert Earns Historic Low Ratings >> By Katey Rich: 2007-07-11 00:31:13 > > What were the ratings for the fossil fool > "Dead Earth" event? I'd like to compare > them to the "Live Earth" ratings, but I > haven't seen "Dead Earth" ratings published > anywhere. > In a Demonstration of solidarity, we almost all woke up and exhaled some Co2 this morning. Rating were incredible, we all tuned in, while dopers smoked a doobie and tuned out. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 14:28:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:28:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: Global Warming: How Do Scientists Know They're Right? References: <1184667901.378459.98190@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Habr wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote in message > news:1184667901.378459.98190@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> Please enjoy: >> >> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070716/sc_livescience/globalwarminghowdoscientistsknowtheyrenotwrong >> There are many interesting links within the article. >> >> >> I have two comments on on this article: >> >> --- the Oreskes paper mentioned is here: >> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >> >> --- "polar amplification," the correct prediction that the poles >> would warm first, was first made by Svante Arrhenius in 1895, >> not Suki Manabe in 1980. >> > > Scientists do not know that they are right nor do they know that they are wrong. > > > Based on what might be suspect data AND assuming that statistical methods overcome any > suspect data THEN they are right about the near surface temperatures rising. > > ASSUMING that other forcings have been properly analyzed along with CO2 THEN they are > right about what we must do about CO2. > > > > Nostradamus also predicted it... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 15:02:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:02:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.bush,misc.survivalism,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc Subject: Re: False Flag Terror Attack Coming VERY Soon! References: <1184265447.594935.27710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4699adf3$0$12823$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <469d9530$0$12812$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <9sur93h90pih5pbrpk39npcemt31p1hhjn@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stuart Grey wrote: > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:39:05 -0400, * US * wrote: > >> Onsite witnesses reported seeing the molten steel, >> and for a good while after the buildings fell. > > So what? from fire? But I heard RRosie O`donell say fire can't do that. Tell me ist's not true... Rosie lied to us? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 15:19:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:19:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.immigration,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: What has Bush sacrificed? References: <1184777300.993557.34350@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184777300.993557.34350@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Jul 15, 6:11 pm, Joe wrote: >> I think it's time for Bush to make a "good faith" sacrifice. >> >> Since he has asked the military to sacrifice so much, it's time for him >> to demonstrate his solidarity with military families. >> >> What would be an appropriate sacrifice for Bush to make... ? The chance to get an intern blow job and launch an occasional cruise missile when he wants to. Why aren't people dying like flies around this president, like they did around Clinton? so much sacrifice. How will Hillary sacrifice? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 17:58:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 17:58:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics Subject: Re: BUSH THE DIVIDERER GUY HAS DIVIDED THE USA LIKE NO OTHER PRESIDENT BEFORE References: <1184538744.799858.62440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <4ekl939c75o0luepbm80lj5gl72vcvbtl6@4ax.com> <1184616330.479902.232270@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184792539.842846.262580@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184792539.842846.262580@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 16, 4:05 pm, day50...@bellsouth.net wrote: > >> Do you morons actually fear Lil' George? > > Like a monkey with a loaded shotgun, yeah. > I can see why, you might not ever outsmart the monkey, and live in fear for ever. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 18:18:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:18:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: ALERT: Senate Moves to End Free Speech in America References: <1184608826.863241.135040@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184610997.200044.68350@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <469c1736$0$24720$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184651001_753@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <469c969f$0$4667$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <428p939vunkl26obghsri3k2f993f2ve9n@4ax.com> <1184671441.799360.125000@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1184684436.331831.59190@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469ce90d$0$4677$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184790827.233395.111240@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184790827.233395.111240@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>> On Jul 17, 6:59 am, Gunner Asch wrote: >>>>> I see Teddy Kennedy is trying to pass another anti-1st Amendment Hate >>>>> Speech bill........ Good - does it specify the word "n*gger", I'm hoping they ban it from the American lexicon, but then- imagine if Kennedy were causing the arrest and imprisonment of blacks for using the very word they so vehemently despise. hypocrisy? Besides - black trash works as well as white trash has when someone wants to be non hateful. Or the old standard used by Clinton`istas "Trailer trash". -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 18:28:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:28:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.energy,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Abundant energy in the right form... References: <1184757085.023763.62830@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469DFC59.BA4DA7BD@hotmail.com> <469E453F.9A98D4E4@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Eeyore" wrote: >> Sevenhundred Elves wrote: >>> Eeyore wrote: >>>> "oliver, vienna, austria" wrote: >>>> >>>>> Basically it is an island that pumps deep, cold, nutrient rich ocean >>>>> water to the surface, >>>> That will require an energy INPUT. >>>> >>>> >>>>> harvests the energy >>>> There is no energy to harvest. >>>> >>>> That was a silly idea. >>> >>> Whether his islands get built or not, Oliver points out a great energy >>> resource that goes unused: The insolation over the oceans. >> He wasn't talking about hot water ! He was claiming COLD water contained >> lots of >> energy. I think he'd benefit from a decent education personally. > > He also mentioned "nutrient rich" like that was important. > Wouldn't the warming of the water kill all those things that make the cold water nutrient rich, what nutrients are these? Wouldn't this idea kill the seals. Seals and such eat deep water shellfish and might become endangered thereby causing the polar bears to starve and get weak and end up drowning? We all know what happens when polar bears are drowning... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 18:46:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:46:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.immigration,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Bush chose Iraq as a battleground to fight Islamic militants References: <1184792151.695466.187390@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184792151.695466.187390@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 16, 4:02 pm, Joe wrote: >> Even though there were none there at the time. >> >> And now ordinary Iraq people get slaughtered in the crossfire. >> >> That's not right and the only ones who don't see that it is not right >> are those who are blinded by religious bigotry and false patriotism. >> >> Hell, even Bush and Cheney know it's not right, but what the hell do >> they care? >> >> They're making tons of money and consolidating power that a weak and >> compliant Congress can't yield fast enough. > > Gee, it's a wonder the Iraqis aren't more grateful to us. They're just > not worthy of our generosity, we should take our toys and go back home. > Good idea, and get us out of Bosnia also, and Germany too, oh Korea too... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 19:09:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:09:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.immigration,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Bush chose Iraq as a battleground to fight Islamic militants References: <1184792151.695466.187390@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In article <1184792151.695466.187390@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > z wrote: > >> On Jul 16, 4:02 pm, Joe wrote: >>> Even though there were none there at the time. >>> >>> And now ordinary Iraq people get slaughtered in the crossfire. >>> >>> That's not right and the only ones who don't see that it is not right >>> are those who are blinded by religious bigotry and false patriotism. >>> >>> Hell, even Bush and Cheney know it's not right, but what the hell do >>> they care? >>> >>> They're making tons of money and consolidating power that a weak and >>> compliant Congress can't yield fast enough. >> Gee, it's a wonder the Iraqis aren't more grateful to us. They're just >> not worthy of our generosity, we should take our toys and go back home. I can send your invitation to use *your* front yard as the secondary battle ground. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 18 20:12:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:12:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Bush admits his administration committed treason. References: <1o1d9355e0b02mi6qrm56d6g0ap3sm35ki@4ax.com> <1i15bbn.25twq41uq069qN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i15t7b.f3imt21m52i4eN%nobody@nowheres.com> <7VJli.7074$tj6.3671@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1i16yja.18cr4q812fvcivN%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184609106.411745.40740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1i1ciks.17uk9av1g7hlu6N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1184767821.249186.317960@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <8Jrni.871$kU4.106@bignews6.bellsouth.net> <_u6dnVJR0ZwsOAPbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <_u6dnVJR0ZwsOAPbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit robw wrote: > You base every decision you make on one line of thinking??? > > Sorry, but the example you laid out makes it look like you make no decisions > on your own. Your thought process is appalling. > Thank you, The fact I don't flip flop and become a hypocrite like Democrats is a relief.... ...but if I made no decisions on my own, it wouldn't be my thought process, now would it? do you, feel like your the soggy clown in the dunk tank yet? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 00:24:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:24:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: misc.education,alt.rush-limbaugh,chi.general,mn.politics,alt.california Subject: Re: Senator Edwards: 100 million to bus students for integration! References: <1184609846.612589.323840@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184786861.900793.235660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Desmond and Molly Jones wrote: > In article <1184786861.900793.235660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, > Pubkeybreaker at pubkeybreaker@aol.com says... >> The question that should be asked is: What is causing this problem? >> >> If the problem is that not enough money is being spent on inner city >> schools, then this is a problem that is correctable. right... it's only money, we just raise taxes. Want me to guess how far Left you are? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 11:39:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:39:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.aol.tricks,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Chevron + Rice + Saddam = bribes References: <1184297036.689859.262180@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <4697416a$0$5702$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1184360671.708277.196210@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <469a7ca7$0$3831$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1184555542.283204.150610@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <469b4c8f$0$5702$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1184655254.288501.238890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <8iqo93loina1jrgkdglhrutpmo36ljkask@4ax.com> <1184726678.182229.277340@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469f6b1f$0$5706$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:46:07 +0200, Monika Krug wrote: > >> kwag7693@hotmail.com schrieb: >> >>> Almost, but without the ad hominem irrelevance and understanding what >>> the USHCN is actually purporting to do. You tell me: how is an A/C >>> exhaust blowing off heat close to a thermometer or a tarmac surface >>> right under a thermometer not going to bias its reading? >> If it has been there from the beginning, it won't introduce a bias. Only >> if it had been installed after the thermometer it would result in a >> measured increase. >> >> But as the article said: Such influences have been accounted for, so that >> they won't influence the over-all temperature readings. >> >> Monika. > > And you believe that? Please explain, because I don't see how it's > possible to "account for" previously unknown conditions. Or are you > saying they knew of those improper sitings all along? Rule #1 CYA and these temperature sites are sloppy, so naturally the people involved say there is no Bias and no problrms. The simple truth can be found by locating a new one a few hundred yards away and compare the two. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 14:22:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:22:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: misc.education,alt.rush-limbaugh,chi.general,mn.politics,alt.california Subject: Re: Senator Edwards: 100 million to bus students for integration! References: <1184609846.612589.323840@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184786861.900793.235660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <7IBni.785$qe5.207@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1184866200.085161.279610@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184866200.085161.279610@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pubkeybreaker wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Desmond and Molly Jones wrote: >>> In article <1184786861.900793.235660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, >>> Pubkeybreaker at pubkeybreaker@aol.com says... >> >>>> The question that should be asked is: What is causing this problem? >>>> >>>> If the problem is that not enough money is being spent on inner city >>>> schools, then this is a problem that is correctable. >> right... it's only money, we just raise taxes. >> >> Want me to guess how far Left you are? > > You would guess wrong; I am much more of a libertarian than a > democrat. > Both demotwits and republiguns spend too much; the only difference is > that > they spend it on different things; democrats want to give welfare > money to > irresponsible poor people who have too many children. republiguns > want to > spend it on invading Iraq. Both are wrong. > > > We don't need to RAISE taxes, but merely re-apportion existing taxes > to things that are important. > If your Libertarian then you should want the government out of the *Business* of teaching and tending our children. You can fool yourself, but you can't fool me... Amazingly you did get it right when you said the left and right spend too much, but the reason they spend, isn't that they want "equality" and to better our lives. They want to control us all and they fight and tax and spend to that end. While you may want to be Libertarian, and as honorable as that may be, you need to delve into some books on freedom. Keep looking-and I sure hope you find your way to become a Libertarian. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 14:36:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:36:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.global-warming,talk.environment Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <07WdnQi9s6xXDwLbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Smith wrote: > On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:35:22 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS@yahoo.com > (Brent P) wrote: > >> In article <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, donquijote1954 wrote: >>> GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming >>> >>> Responding to growing concerns over global warming, General Motors >>> (GM) announced today that it would make all of its vehicles with >>> standard transmissions, starting in 2009. Manual transmissions >>> generally get better fuel mileage than automatics. >> Finally a trolling post that makes sense. Not because of the global >> warming fraud, but the idea of getting rid of automatic transmissions. >> > What's wrong with automatic transmissions? > > Bill Smith Truth is standard may cost more, but the premise here is that they are more fuel efficient. If you add up the fuel wasted by ignorance of how to drive a standard transmission, I imagine it would not only cost more over its life for fuel but for repairs also. Slipping the clutch will add wear and can burn the clutch pressure plate. On the other hand, the GIANT TAREX dump trucks have gone to automatic transmissions and they are up to sixteen speed transmissions. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 16:06:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:06:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <469D66B3.6020707@comcast.net> <1184872488.065464.48980@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469FC35B.EC1F81DF@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <469FC35B.EC1F81DF@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > "aloha.kakuikanu" wrote: > >> In the "Issues" section I read "The existence of a rise in average >> temperatures since the mid-19th century is not disputed". > > Good thing too. The mid 19th century was still in the Little Ice Age. > > Graham > what SUV was popular in 1850? The mustang? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 16:28:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:28:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.global-warming,talk.environment Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <07WdnQi9s6xXDwLbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@comcast.com> <8bOni.809$yW2.82@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <469FBF79.CBE4E3D8@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <469FBF79.CBE4E3D8@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Truth is standard may cost more, but the premise here is that they are >> more fuel efficient. If you add up the fuel wasted by ignorance of how >> to drive a standard transmission, > > You reckon Americans *are* that ignorant ? > Yep I reckon, maybe you could ask Paris Hilton that question? > >> I imagine it would not only cost more >> over its life for fuel but for repairs also. > > It's almost unheard of for a manual transmission to need a repair. While the gear box don't have serious problems all the time(depending on the manufacturer), the clutch plate, flywheel and the throw-out bearing and master/slave cylinders have their share. > >> Slipping the clutch will >> add wear and can burn the clutch pressure plate. > > Well don't slip the clutch then. It's simply poor driving technique. > My point exactly. > >> On the other hand, the GIANT TAREX dump trucks have gone to automatic >> transmissions and they are up to sixteen speed transmissions. > > Wouldn't be surpised if they are effectively 'computer controlled' manual boxes.. > I've never rebuilt one that size, I have seen it being done and they were surprisingly like a "normal" automatc trans on the inside but bigger. > Graham > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 16:31:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:31:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184870643.880619.274120@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Tom" wrote >> On Jul 19, 5:03 am, "Peter Muehlbauer" >> wrote: >>> "Sheldon" wrote >>> >>>> Is there a chart that shows the increase in CO2 over the last hundred or so >>>> years? >>> http://www.umweltluege.de/images/CO2-1812-1961.jpg >>> >>> Here you have *real measured* CO2 values, not modelled. >>> You see, that CO2 was a few times much more higher than today. >> Indeed, it was higher near you Grandma's ass when she was passing >> wind, and at similar locations as your plot indicates. >> >> The plot is a denier misrepresentation. Stick to the science: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/R180GZ9XUO73RE/ > > Would you please stop pointing me to Amazon with a lots of books! > Instead tell me with your words, where you assume a mistake? > > Maybe he's an affiliate for Al Gore's Global warming Books and web sites. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 16:39:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:39:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE>Prepare to be assimilated Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If your a Global Warming Nut.... Is 90% consensus better than 51% consensus? If there's a 60% consensus that Jesus is fact, can we teach Christianity in schools? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that theories are like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of shit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 16:49:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:49:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.global-warming,talk.environment Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <07WdnQi9s6xXDwLbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@comcast.com> <8bOni.809$yW2.82@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <139vciu1vo3tl2a@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > proehling wrote: >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> >>>> What's wrong with automatic transmissions? >>>> >>>> Bill Smith >>> Truth is standard may cost more, but the premise here is that they >>> are more fuel efficient. >> >> The new Honda Civic automatic is rated at 40 MPG, whereas the manual >> (and almost unavailable) model is rated at about 36 MPG. >> >> This may be because the automatic shifts at low RPMs and most drivers >> would tend to select higher shiftpoints given the choice, but it does >> demonstrate that modern automatics are at least competitive with the >> standards, and are continuing to get better. > > Ever driven an automatic in the snow? > > There are some good reasons why manual transmissions might be preferred. > That's why they put (P)(R)(N)1,2,3,(D) > FYI, last I recall automatics took about 1/3 of the engine HP to operate, > was this wrong or what has changed? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 18:06:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:06:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.liberalism,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.politics.democrats Subject: Re: Sen. Vitter's Whores References: <1184368944.479269.267310@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184875421.970072.123150@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 3629 Dead wrote: > Lil Obwon wrote: >> On Jul 13, 7:22 pm, James Fenimore wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 6:32 pm, "The People" wrote: >>> >>>> Sen.Vitterto return to work next week >>>> LouisianaSen. DavidVitter, who has been in seclusion since >>>> acknowledging >>>> dealings with a Washington escort service, "will be back next week," >>>> said a >>>> Senate colleague who has exchanged messages with him....(more) >>>> http://lists.sacbee.com/t/3094537/2077291/3037/0/ >>>> Castrate the republi-scum. >>> ------------- SENATORVITTER .... >>> >>> slumped on the shitter, contemplating his wife. >>> "Well, I sure dodged the bullet, 'cause she didn't pull it, >>> And slice my thing off with her knife!" >>> >>> ------------- >> >> I note Vitter and his wife are still civil, although one can't ignore >> the fact that his wife is somewhat larger than the senator. She's a >> bit moosey. For the next six months or so if were the senator, I'd >> wear a protective cup to bed. > > Just to add to his woes, he picked up a nickname that's been wildfiring > around Washington: Party Pooper. >> >> ---------------- >> Did he lie under oath about it? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 19 18:31:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:31:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.global-warming,talk.environment Subject: Re: this is what's wrong with the automatic References: <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <07WdnQi9s6xXDwLbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@comcast.com> <1184883009.359165.71430@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184883009.359165.71430@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit donquijote1954 wrote: > On Jul 19, 12:54 pm, Bill Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:35:22 -0500, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com >> >> (Brent P) wrote: >>> In article <1184860013.405999.142...@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, donquijote1954 wrote: >>>> GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming >>>> Responding to growing concerns over global warming, General Motors >>>> (GM) announced today that it would make all of its vehicles with >>>> standard transmissions, starting in 2009. Manual transmissions >>>> generally get better fuel mileage than automatics. >>> Finally a trolling post that makes sense. Not because of the global >>> warming fraud, but the idea of getting rid of automatic transmissions. >> What's wrong with automatic transmissions? > > It allows you handle the cell phone, the DVD player, the coffee and > the kids without any other consequence than an accident. > > Besides it allows the mentally retarded and slow learner to drive. Oh, > and the old and prone to wandering. > I learned to do all that and then some- with a 4 speed or three in the tree, I also learned to shift without a clutch.... and I even drove a Peterbuilt with 13 gears now and again. I'm afraid it might just cause the less coordinated to get confused easier and result in more accidents. Good thing there's mandatory seat belt laws to help make it even more tough. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 10:58:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:58:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: European Heatwave References: <1184731685.125526.194530@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184839183.383892.193910@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1i1k60w.7h4gqy1tl80vtN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> In-Reply-To: <1i1k60w.7h4gqy1tl80vtN%peter@DIESPAMMERSCUM.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter B. P. wrote: > wrote: > >> Bonzo, having denied that there was any summer at all in Europe is >> confronted by the evidence. >> So he changes the topic and talks about the Australian Winter! >> >> Muehlbaer, who actually lives in Germany simply mentions the fact it's >> been raining there recently! >> >> Such glaring disregard of obvious facts discredits the denialists more >> than any theoretical argument. > > Well nichols, there is one thing you must address: > > Ad that is the relevance of warm summers, when the fact of the matter is > that AGW theory states that the most warming should be felt: > > 1) In the polar latitudes. > > 2) In winter. > > 3) At night. Good point, we need to see the record highs for the lows of the day. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 11:09:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:09:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE>Prepare to be assimilated References: <46a01553@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184940330.969265.194660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184940330.969265.194660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 19, 8:52 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >> >> news:VZPni.327$P32.178@bignews5.bellsouth.net... >> >>> If your a Global Warming Nut.... >>> Is 90% consensus better than 51% consensus? >>> If there's a 60% consensus that Jesus is fact, can we teach Christianity >>> in schools? >> Just imagine, if Einstein had not bucked the consensus of his day, we would now >> not have his theories of relativity. >> >> Regards >> >> Bonzo > > Or Galileo and the planets orbiting around the sun. Or Tesla and AC > electric power. Or Columbus and the Western route. Or Martin Luther > and the Reformation. Napoleon and the French republic. > > If we were to blindly accept all the pontifications of small groups of > self-appointed experts and activists, we might as well live in a > Gulag. And if we accepted the false pontifications of the IPCC and its > leftists ideologues, we would, in fact, be living in a Gulag. > > Thank god for freedom of speech and freedom of concience. > Does the Constitution allow for freedom of consensus? Can my consensus be different from Al Gores Consensus? If we have two different Consensus which is the Official Government consensus? Can we sue to have two consensus'(consensi) printed on Government forms like we have been printing the two English and Spanish languages. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 11:24:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:24:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Algore's botox treatments References: <1183817194.930993.68010@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <468FA98E.FE56685A@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <468FB6CB.4E34F10@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1183844761.210865.79260@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184804750.656114.187300@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1184866960.355699.26640@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <3NmdnQYvyf6MGD3bnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <3NmdnQYvyf6MGD3bnZ2dnUVZ_gOdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Cain wrote: > Lloyd wrote: > >>> Where are your scientific cites to mankind affecting earth in a >>> harmful way right now? >> >> CFCs and the ozone layer. DDT and bald eagles. > > I hear that the Bald Eagle has staged a huge comeback. The cost was > only some 30 million people who died from Malaria that needn't have (and > the rates are increasing.) > > Rachel, thanks for all the eagles. Not to mention your astounding > progress with human population control. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, > etc., had nothing on you, ol' gal. > > > Bob Stalin was good for about 27 million deaths wasn't he? Every Socialist/communist movement manages to PURGE it's self of some group doesn't it, now the ECO-socialist have their own little claim to fame. Good point... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 13:49:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:49:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.aol.tricks,sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Chevron + Rice + Saddam = bribes References: <1184297036.689859.262180@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <4697416a$0$5702$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1184360671.708277.196210@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <469a7ca7$0$3831$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1184555542.283204.150610@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <469b4c8f$0$5702$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1184655254.288501.238890@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <8iqo93loina1jrgkdglhrutpmo36ljkask@4ax.com> <1184726678.182229.277340@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469f6b1f$0$5706$9b4e6d93@newsspool2.arcor-online.net> <1184908223.325639.110890@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46a0dbfb$0$31624$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> In-Reply-To: <46a0dbfb$0$31624$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Monika Krug wrote: > kwag7693@hotmail.com schrieb: > But if the fire had been there since the time the thermometer had been > put there, the thermometer would not have measured a *heat increase*. > You understand the difference between absolute temperatures and > temperature deltas, right? It would just skew all the numbers from that site to make any other high temps more believable? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:09:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:09:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184858501.627929.143690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46A0B093.D7D12711@hotmail.com> <7c4oi.83$vi3.26@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net> <46A0D429.96A53438@hotmail.com> <1184954005.995326.4860@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184954005.995326.4860@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 20, 11:26 am, Eeyore > wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>> altheim wrote: >>>>> One other claim that Herr Beck makes is that the rise in >>>>> CO2 is always behind the rise in temperature, which gives >>>>> the impression that temperature is the cause and not the >>>>> effect of CO2. But I believe that is explained as being the >>>>> result of CO2 uptake by oceans and vegetation causing >>>>> measured levels to be less than what would be expected >>>>> due to emissions. >>>> Are you trying to suggest now that *lower* levels than expected >>>> of CO2 are a sign CO2 is to blame for global warming ? >>> No of course not. Even if I had expressed myself badly >>> I fail to see how you could come to that conclusion. >>>> The reason CO2 is an indicator of the planet getting warmer is that >>>> the oceans can't hold as much of it as they warm and they release some. >>>> The other thing to consider is that the amount of CO2 in the oceans is in >>>> equilibrium with the amount in the atmosphere. See Henry's Law. Trying >>>> to adjust atmospheric CO2 by reducing human output is doomed to failure >>>> anyway. The oceans are in control of the concentration in the atmosphere. >>> That may be so but just because the uptake and release of >>> ocean CO2 rises and falls doesn't mean that there is no >>> persistent upward trend - as indeed you acknowledge above, >>> being "in equilibrium with the amount in the atmosphere". >> I've yet to see a convincing case that 370ppm of CO2 is the problem. >> > > Well, jeez, roll back the science. If you see no case that atoms > exist, I guess they don't. > >> The actual problem greenhouse gas (if there is really a PROBLEM - and that's >> also far from clear) is water vapour. >> >> Graham > > H2O is in equilibrium since it's quickly removed as rain. CO2 has no > quick removal mechanism. It''s CO2 that's increasing, and causingfthe > warming. > Not in Florida, it hangs out as 90% humidity, the warmer air will take up and hold more humidity won't it? It's the cooling that condenses it to rain? I notice this because I can sweat at night, just sipping a Rum Runner watching the storms roll by in the Keys. More heat more vapor, that's why the Global Co2 warming Consensus will destroy the Hydrogen fuel cells plans, since hydrogen releases water vapor, a greenhouse gas. The vapor makes it warmer and there by allowing more vapor, in an endless cycle - until we all drown from the air. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:15:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:15:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming theory so simple a caveman can understand it References: <1184952981.238327.150130@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Tunderbar" wrote in message > news:1184952981.238327.150130@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... >> http://www.theprairiestar.com/articles/2007/07/20/ag_news/opinion/letter04.txt >> >> Global warming theory so simple a caveman can understand it >> >> By STEWART TRUELSEN, American Farm Bureau Federation >> Friday, July 20, 2007 8:15 AM MDT >> >> >> >> >> There's a new theory of global warming that is so simple even a >> caveman can understand it. >> >> Of course, a caveman would worry more about ice ages, but let's assume >> for a moment that global warming concerned him too. >> >> If a caveman thought the Earth was warming up, he had two obvious >> theories to choose from. Perhaps it was due to his increasing use of >> fire. The other possibility was the big orange disk in the sky, the >> sun. >> >> >> >> Even to the caveman this was a no-brainer. The fire he used for warmth >> and cooking was nothing compared to the heat of the sun. >> >> Fast-forward to today and our choices of theories to explain global >> warming are more numerous and complex, but not that totally different. >> >> The popular theory is that carbon-dioxide and other greenhouse gases >> are warming the atmosphere. Carbon dioxide is formed in the burning of >> fossil fuels among other things. Therefore, the cause is largely >> attributable to human activity. >> >> >> >> But a Danish scientist, Henrik Svens-mark, thinks the sun is playing >> the major role in global warming. >> >> In the July 2007 Discover magazine, Svensmark, who is director of the >> Center for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish National Space Center in >> Copenhagen, blamed the sun and cosmic rays for altering cloud >> formation. > > And failed. > > And they know this because they, measured the actual cosmic rays and other factors involved in cloud formation and found that all the factors were correct and the same as they have been for the last 8000 years? And I'm sure that they used a bubble in the 8000year old ice to do that. More mammoth fart theory huh. Which consensus was it that can be named as the counter consensus of the cosmic ray consensus. Did they look to see what might effect the cosmic rays? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:20:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:20:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184830602.603895.194060@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <469FC39F.5A1EB852@hotmail.com> <1184953780.958855.252000@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184953780.958855.252000@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lloyd wrote: > On Jul 19, 4:03 pm, Eeyore > wrote: >> chemist wrote: >>> "Sheldon" wrote: >>>> Is there a chart that shows the increase in CO2 over the last hundred or so >>>> years? >>> No not really There are thousands of measurements indicating higher >>> levels pre1950 than the alarmists accept whilst only a few indicate the low >>> level they use. >> Some atmospheric measurements from the 1800s show levels over 500 ppm. >> >> Graham > > You. Are. Lying. > > CO2 levels have been around 280 ppm for thousands of years prior to > the 19th century. > > You attempt at disinformation is silly when it's so easy to look at > the actual science. > Didn't anyone think to *can* some air for future use, or do we have to run out on a glacier and drill holes and damage these glaciers every time? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:33:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:33:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: AL-QAIDA: "IRAQ IS THE CENTRAL FRONT!!" References: <1183761517.611774.42790@g13g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <468ec76c$0$16517$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1183763218.322950.324800@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <468EDFD6.25C81A2F@yahoo.co.uk> <1184785653.461877.120430@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <469F963C.10D14D56@yahoo.co.uk> <469FB8EC.FBDF4EF3@yahoo.co.uk> <139vom7ogco0391@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <139vom7ogco0391@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bokonon wrote: > "Bill Bonde ( 'Hi ho' )" wrote in message > news:469FB8EC.FBDF4EF3@yahoo.co.uk... > >> How long were the Catholics and Protestants killing each other in >> Europe? > > They're still doing it. Oddly - the US isn't occupying Ireland. > > We need to bail out of Bosnia first, that one year we needed to be there, seems like nine years. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:35:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:35:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.liberalism,alt.politics.gw-bush,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: No More Dem Blame, It's Puglicans References: <1184882695.648499.164510@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1pRni.29007$C96.23270@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <1pRni.29007$C96.23270@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 3629 Dead wrote: > jose wrote: >> On Jul 19, 10:04 am, salad wrote: >>> Fragman wrote: >>>> "While Senate Republicans on Wednesday blocked a Democratic bid to >>>> force a >>>> vote on U.S. troop withdrawals from Iraq," a new CBS/New York Times >>>> poll >>>> finds that 61 percent of Americans say "the war should be funded >>>> only if >>>> there's a timetable for withdrawal." >>>> http://capweb.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?key=274641116&url_n... >>>> >>>> No more blaming the Dems for Bush's follies. It's the retread >>>> party, now. >>> Basically, to the right wing, the war in Iraq is like a football game. >>> If we lose the Iraq fiasco, that will damage our egos. Vietnam redux. >>> >>> We need to realize, to a right winger, democracy is spread by force. >> >> Democracy for Iraq was determined by the overwhelming vote >> of the Iraqi people. A small group of Islamist radicals are determined >> to thwart the will of the people and impose a theocratic tyranny. >> >> I presume then that you support the enslavement of 27 million people. > > The overwhelming majority of Iraqi people want the Americans the fuck > out of their country. > > Now what do you say to that, Jasper? >> Take a pole and see how many want you to shut your hole. Then decide if mob rule is so great. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:42:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:42:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republican,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Bush to have colonoscopy References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Loogie wrote: > While he is under Cheney will assume Presidential power. Kind of irony. > > One gets his asshole operated on while another asshole assumes power. > > They could get Clinton to do the job, I understand he has a Cigar treatment that's smoke'n the old procedure. All Clintons Cigars come with markings that indicate which direction to insert them. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 14:54:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:54:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Clinton didn't pay for it, he Hired it>Re: A GOP Right Wing Epidemic of Sex with Prostitutes. Here's another one. References: <0fs1a39fr4np9hhonglgd4i39set2da6i5@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <0fs1a39fr4np9hhonglgd4i39set2da6i5@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought this was the oldest profession, Lets hear it for FREE trade. So paying an intern is better than paying a madam? Which cost the tax payers more? Probably the hookers that don't pay tax. But Interns get medical bennies so it may be a toss up. A good reason for the FAIR tax is that Hookers would pay tax every time they buy something. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 15:00:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:00:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth - Dead Africans? References: <1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184955471.033499.248320@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184956960.049006.300870@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184956960.049006.300870@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Tunderbar - You should work for the secret intelligence services. You > couldn't tell the truth if the CIA were torturing you to get it. > You're completely turning the truth about Africa on its head -- > classic example of the "BIG LIE" in action. > > Here's what some other people have written on the issue of GW and > Africa: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>From the Guardian, UK, Oct. 28, 2006 > > Climate change is already affecting people across Africa and will wipe > out efforts to tackle poverty there unless urgent action is taken, a > report says. And yet Warren Buffett and Bill Gates are spending Billions to feed and educate that area... It's amazing how stupid the richest men in the world are, isn't it? Do you think they know something you don't? They could be trying to end the death and destruction created by global warming but instead they fight poverty? Maybe they got rich and stay that way by not falling for every fear that's coming down the pike? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 15:04:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:04:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth - Dead Africans? References: <1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184955471.033499.248320@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184956960.049006.300870@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184956960.049006.300870@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > Tunderbar - You should work for the secret intelligence services. You > couldn't tell the truth if the CIA were torturing you to get it. > You're completely turning the truth about Africa on its head -- > classic example of the "BIG LIE" in action. > > Here's what some other people have written on the issue of GW and > Africa: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>From the Guardian, UK, Oct. 28, 2006 > > Climate change is already affecting people across Africa and will wipe > out efforts to tackle poverty there unless urgent action is taken, a > report says. > Maybe they know it's something that can't be fixed and we're all going to die, after all they did give away the bulk of their cash didn't they? Who needs money if your going to die. Good by See you in the next life... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 15:16:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:16:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Doing the dat ode Cosmic Ray Spin and Shuffle, AGAIN. References: <1184952981.238327.150130@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184958079.593611.7820@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184958079.593611.7820@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 20, 10:36 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> But a Danish scientist, Henrik Svens-mark, thinks the sun is playing >> the major role in global warming. >> >> In the July 2007 Discover magazine, Svensmark, who is director of the >> Center for Sun-Climate Research at the Danish National Space Center in >> Copenhagen, blamed the sun and cosmic rays for altering cloud >> formation. > > Dunderbar is dancing the old cosmic ray spin and shuffle > again. The discredited research his cut and paste cites > is several years old. Should he want to look at the > latest science he could go here: > http://environment.newscientist.com/article/dn12234-suns-activity-rules-out-link-to-global-warming.html > > 1) The longest directly observed measures of cosmic > rays show no significant long-term increase or decreased > in flux. Only an 11-year cycle is observed. Please see: > You always add the 11-year cycle shit on there.... Have you thought that while the sun may be cycling and all is well with the sun, that there might be a problem on the *receiving end* The earth might be sporadically or even just at polar ends of the magnetosphere blocking some isolated cosmic rays from reaching the ionosphere. Thereby drowning polar bears... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 15:23:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:23:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: RESISTANCE IS FUTILE>Prepare to be assimilated References: <1184893440.457138.258660@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <46a01a36@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1184954597.692114.199860@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46A109F5.844FA412@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A109F5.844FA412@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Lloyd wrote: > >> "Bonzo" wrote: >>> "Roger Coppock" wrote >>>> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>> If your a Global Warming Nut.... >>>>> Is 90% consensus better than 51% consensus? >>>> Global warming has a near 100%, 928 to 0, >>>> consensus in peer reviewed scientific literature. >>>> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 >>> Even if this was true, it would not mean much. >>> I believe that there was near 100% consensus that time was absolute before >>> Einstein introduced his theory of relativity. >>> >> And the theory wasn't really accepted until there was data to back it >> up. Conversely, we have tons of data that CO2 is behind the warming >> and absolutely no data that it is not. >> >> Science works by building on established principles and data, not >> right-wing hollering. > > Whereas left-wing hollering *IS* allowed to determine the 'science'. > > Graham > Even a blind pig turns up an acorn now and again. If your a blind pig, and your not looking for an apple, why would you climb that apple tree? All your testimonials from a consensus of True Believers amounts to *perfuming the pig*. It's still a pig. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 15:44:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:44:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184858501.627929.143690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46A0B093.D7D12711@hotmail.com> <7c4oi.83$vi3.26@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net> <46A0D429.96A53438@hotmail.com> <1184954005.995326.4860@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <9T6oi.651$RQ5.586@bignews8.bellsouth.net> <1184958845.604160.15190@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46A10E44.FE033284@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A10E44.FE033284@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Tom wrote: > >> On Jul 20, 2:09 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> More heat more vapor, that's why the Global Co2 warming Consensus will >>> destroy the Hydrogen fuel cells plans, since hydrogen releases water >>> vapor, a greenhouse gas. The vapor makes it warmer and there by allowing >>> more vapor, in an endless cycle - until we all drown from the air. >> There's not a dab of ice cream in your bullshit. Water vapor is a >> greenhouse "gas", but it does not cause a runaway cycle. >> >> Unlike water vapor, CO2 has a long half-life in the atmosphere. > > Water vapour is there constantly. It has an 'infinite' half-life if you like. As soon > as some condenses and falls as rain, it's replaced by evaporation from the surface. > What's your point ? > > Graham > We have to die of something, water vapor is as plausible as global Co2 warming. If there is no dry air or cool air, where will vapor dissipate to? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 16:00:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:00:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184858501.627929.143690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46A0B093.D7D12711@hotmail.com> <7c4oi.83$vi3.26@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net> <46A0D429.96A53438@hotmail.com> <1184954005.995326.4860@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46A1097E.A4DD8ACF@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A1097E.A4DD8ACF@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Lloyd wrote: > >> On Jul 20, 11:26 am, Eeyore >> wrote: >>> altheim wrote: >>>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>>> altheim wrote: >>>>>> One other claim that Herr Beck makes is that the rise in >>>>>> CO2 is always behind the rise in temperature, which gives >>>>>> the impression that temperature is the cause and not the >>>>>> effect of CO2. But I believe that is explained as being the >>>>>> result of CO2 uptake by oceans and vegetation causing >>>>>> measured levels to be less than what would be expected >>>>>> due to emissions. >>>>> Are you trying to suggest now that *lower* levels than expected >>>>> of CO2 are a sign CO2 is to blame for global warming ? >>>> No of course not. Even if I had expressed myself badly >>>> I fail to see how you could come to that conclusion. >>>>> The reason CO2 is an indicator of the planet getting warmer is that >>>>> the oceans can't hold as much of it as they warm and they release some. >>>>> The other thing to consider is that the amount of CO2 in the oceans is in >>>>> equilibrium with the amount in the atmosphere. See Henry's Law. Trying >>>>> to adjust atmospheric CO2 by reducing human output is doomed to failure >>>>> anyway. The oceans are in control of the concentration in the atmosphere. >>>> That may be so but just because the uptake and release of >>>> ocean CO2 rises and falls doesn't mean that there is no >>>> persistent upward trend - as indeed you acknowledge above, >>>> being "in equilibrium with the amount in the atmosphere". >>> I've yet to see a convincing case that 370ppm of CO2 is the problem. >> >> Well, jeez, roll back the science. If you see no case that atoms >> exist, I guess they don't. > > So actually you have no meaningful response. It's *KNOWN* that CO2 is a minor > greenhouse gas for heaven's sake. > > >>> The actual problem greenhouse gas (if there is really a PROBLEM - and that's >>> also far from clear) is water vapour. >>> >>> Graham >> H2O is in equilibrium since it's quickly removed as rain. CO2 has no >> quick removal mechanism. It''s CO2 that's increasing, and causingfthe >> warming. > > Nature emits far more CO2 than humans. > > How are you going to stop that ? > > Graham > > We could build more wood houses, maybe go back to the paper office where we have tons of paper in every office, that will lock up some carbon. make more diamonds. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:12:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:12:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Doing the dat ode Cosmic Ray Spin and Shuffle, AGAIN. References: <1184952981.238327.150130@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184958079.593611.7820@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1S7oi.675$RQ5.552@bignews8.bellsouth.net> <1184965201.233910.19690@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184965201.233910.19690@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 20, 12:16 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > [ . . . ] >> You always add the 11-year cycle shit on there.... > > I put it there because it is an important fact, > accounting for most of the directly observed > solar variance. > >> Have you thought that >> while the sun may be cycling and all is well with the sun, that there >> might be a problem on the *receiving end* The earth might be >> sporadically or even just at polar ends of the magnetosphere blocking >> some isolated cosmic rays from reaching the ionosphere. Thereby drowning > > The cosmic ray data used come from the Earth's surface, > Climax, Colorado. Anything block cosmic rays from reaching > Earth would block them from reaching Climax, Colorado, too. > that takes care of the cosmic rays over Colorado, are they having global warming in Colorado? Since the cosmic rays effect clouds and fewer clouds mean more heat, then Colorado should be just fine huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:20:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:20:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,rec.aviation.piloting Subject: Re: The ethanol scam References: <1184859100.265071.172150@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <139vm227bchkp00@news.supernews.com> <469FE427.AEB0A2F4@hotmail.com> <13a19k2d1ks5929@news.supernews.com> <1184937453.656634.59870@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <13a1j0lt66iqvfe@news.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AES wrote: > > Al Gore initiated the observatory project in 1998 to inspire school > children with a continuous view of climate unfolding on our fragile > planet. It was even given a poetic name, Triana, the sailor on the Santa > Maria who was first to sight the New World. But Triana's importance to > climate research, perhaps Earth's biggest challenge, was not recognized > until later. > This Al Gore stuff is amazing, I have got to get the Al Gore "Gaia man" action figure, he's every where. Internet inventing, teaching kids, inventing satellites, what a guy, and think he could be president right now, save for the Election stealing Republicans.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:23:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:23:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.global-warming,talk.environment Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184860013.405999.142830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <07WdnQi9s6xXDwLbnZ2dnUVZ_tfinZ2d@comcast.com> <8bOni.809$yW2.82@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <139vciu1vo3tl2a@corp.supernews.com> <46a0a598$0$30636$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <0tmdnS9ENMVxhzzbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <0tmdnS9ENMVxhzzbnZ2dnUVZ_vDinZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Edwin Pawlowski wrote: >> "Cockamamie Khomeini" wrote in message >>> Automatics are for pussys and morons who can't (get it) shift. >>> >> >> Manuals are for guys with little weenies that need something to make >> them feel manly. > > I'm guessing that you are are an advocate of AGW. > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > Co2 makes little wienies... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:26:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:26:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Global ReWarming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The planet was already warm so we're simply re-Warming it. Giving nature a leg up. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:36:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:36:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another 'skeptic' gets tongue-tied References: <1184933680.121737.145380@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184960943.970176.72300@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > wrote in message > news:1184960943.970176.72300@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 20, 5:14 am, "John M." >> wrote: >>> On Jul 18, 6:05 pm, "John M." >>> wrote: >>>> On Jul 15, 6:09 pm, wrote: >>>>> "John M." wrote in message >>>>>> On Jul 14, 10:00 pm, wrote: >>>>>>> "John M." wrote in message >>>>>>> news:1184318901.062057.49280@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 5:44 pm, wrote: >>>>>>>>> when it comes >>>>>>>>> right down to it global warming theory is nonsense. >>>>>>>> Isn't that similar to what the Pope told Galileo when he >>>>>>>> theorised >>>>>>>> about having the Sun as the centre of the Solar system? >>>>>>> Uh, no. Any more stupid questions? >>>>>> If it was a stupid question, why bother answering it? >>>>> Why not? >>>> Because if you are at all "normal", your time is more precious to you >>>> than that. >> Do you often put forth questions you don't want answered? >> >>>>>> Your comment >>>>>> concerning AGW theory is also in line with the comments proffered >>>>>> to >>>>>> Semmelweiss when he suggested a cause for puerperal fever. >>>>> Uh, okay. I don't see how this is relevant. (And I suspect you >>>>> don't >>>>> either.) >>>> The relevance is in the reception of the idea. Semmelweiss was >>>> actually ridiculed by his scientifc peers. No debate, just ridicule. >> Uh, okay. So you're saying that anything that is ridiculed is correct/ >> true because it is ridiculed. Right? How about those that are >> ridiculed for their belief in space aliens or bigfoot? > > You fit right in. > > Big foot caused global warming, but he's an alien, so it's really aliens causing the GW. Triple play, three mysteries in one theory. Look out Al Gore, I'll be in the text books right beside you. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:37:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:37:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > MrCheerful wrote: > >> we are overpopulated now > > By what standard ? > > There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know. > > Graham > Obviously, since we turn our excess food into gas. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:38:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:38:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.4 (Windows/20070604) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth - Dead Africans? References: <1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46A10861.7DC5B69C@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Eeyore" wrote in message > news:46A10861.7DC5B69C@hotmail.com... >> >> Server 13 wrote: >> >>> "Tunderbar" wrote in message >>> news:1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/driessen072007.htm >>>> >>>> Al Gore, Prince Philip, Madonna >>>> Live Earth - Dead Africans? >>>> By Paul Driessen >>>> >>>> Friday, July 20, 2007 >>>> >>>> Policies that prevent energy development have lethal consequences for >>>> Africa >>> rofl Who mandated them for Africa? >> 'the west' mainly. > > Cite? > > The UN is in NY. That's the west. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 17:48:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:48:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Orgasms caused global warming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As if the heat radiated isn't enough, we also exhale more co2. It also forces us to turn the air conditioners cooler and increase use of coal fired electric. TAX ORGASMS on a world wide scale. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 18:06:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:06:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <5qWdncGSnMZ7Qg3bnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@pipex.net> <1184968405.118022.174460@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184968405.118022.174460@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Jul 10, 6:38 am, "Low Life #3" wrote: >> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote in message >> >> news:f6u3rc$8mm$1@news1.nefonline.de... >> >> Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on earth. >> >> see where Al Gore III, after being released from jail on bond was picked up >> by his sister driving a 400bhp Maserati Quatroporte? > > Alphagore111 looks like his dad. > I understand why he needs all those drugs. > I know, I feel his pain too. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 18:09:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:09:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Live Earth - Dead Africans? References: <1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46A10861.7DC5B69C@hotmail.com> <46A1320C.38C1A826@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A1320C.38C1A826@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Server 13 wrote: > >> "Eeyore" wrote >>> Server 13 wrote: >>>> "Tunderbar" wrote >>>> news:1184952602.798189.179870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/driessen072007.htm >>>>> >>>>> Al Gore, Prince Philip, Madonna >>>>> Live Earth - Dead Africans? >>>>> By Paul Driessen >>>>> >>>>> Friday, July 20, 2007 >>>>> >>>>> Policies that prevent energy development have lethal consequences for >>>>> Africa >>>> rofl Who mandated them for Africa? >>> 'the west' mainly. >> Cite? > > You've heard of this thing called "aid" ? > > It comes with strings. > > Graham > > They could say no thanks and then there's no strings... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 21:51:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:51:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow,alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.news-media,talk.politics.guns,alt.fifty-plus.friends Subject: Re: What Atheists Can't Answer References: <1184527245.435283.82680@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <469ad1c7$0$20592$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184855289.115172.28710@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469f8d11$0$3168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469ff667$0$4912$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <-8OdnSX_YMTi2jzbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@giganews.com> <46a16485$0$30615$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46a16485$0$30615$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crusher wrote: > "That Guy" <7@f.com> wrote in message > news:-8OdnSX_YMTi2jzbnZ2dnUVZ_hmtnZ2d@giganews.com... >> "Crusher" wrote in message >> news:469ff667$0$4912$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>> "That Guy" <7@f.com> wrote in message >>> news:LYmdnXF8ZMCAOQLbnZ2dnUVZ_r-3nZ2d@giganews.com... >>>> "Crusher" wrote in message >>>> news:469f8d11$0$3168$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> "z" wrote in message >>>>> news:1184855289.115172.28710@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On Jul 15, 10:02 pm, "Crusher" wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The catholic dicoese in LA just agreed to pay over $600 million to >>>>>>> settle >>>>>>> several hundred cases of priests pedantry over several decades. >>>>>>> "Atheism >>>>>>> provides no answer to this dilemma." It doesn't need to. >>>>>> What's striking about this is that most of the award is covered by >>>>>> their insurance. Nobody buys insurance against things they think could >>>>>> never happen. >>>>> Incidentally, the word should have been pedophilia, not pedantry. >>>>> >>>>> But more interesting is why an insurance company would in recent years >>>>> sell or renew such a policy, knowing with virtual certainty that there >>>>> would be payouts in the tens of millions of dollars in almost any >>>>> diocese. >>>>> >>>>> --Bob-- >>>> Begs the question, who owns the insurance company? >>> I have no idea. Do you? >>> >>> --Bob-- >> Nope, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it's owned by >> Catholics... > > Maybe, but the news reports say that a lot of Catholics specificallly state > that their donations to the Church are not to be spent on the settlements. > > --Bob-- > > So the church uses -that- money pay other church costs or invests it and uses the investment income and also take the non limited funds to pay the settlements. A shell game or money laundering. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 21:57:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:57:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republican,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: ONLY IN AMERICA - 70 Year Old Woman arrested for not watering her lawn and refusing to give her name References: <1184981186.425933.190350@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184981186.425933.190350@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 'foolsrushin.' wrote: > On 21 Jul, 01:48, "robw" wrote: >> She was arrested for not identifying herself. >> That's kind of the law??? >> "Loogie" wrote in message >> news:f7qd9s$95e$1@news.datemas.de... >>> This is just another example of US authorities being fucktards and the >>> overstepping their authority. >>> A widow and grandma spent the morning in jail, arrested for refusing to >>> give a policeman her name when he tried writing her a ticket for failing >>> to water her yard. In Iran, would they have stoned her, or beat her with a rubber hose? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 23:09:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:09:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Marxist Yesterday - "Environmentalist" Today! References: <1184282920.436468.30340@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184330048.441707.230960@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184337468.290333.317510@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184337896.556015.151290@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1184341643.518813.20800@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1184986190.037108.282860@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1184986190.037108.282860@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Enough Already wrote: > On Jul 13, 8:47 am, Thomas wrote: > >> You see this poseur rich kid eco-warrior all the time don't you. They >> are utterly repulsive snotty cretins without a single ounce of genuine >> empathy in them. But they love to inform the rest of us how terrible >> we all are. > > It's hard to ask a man shoveling shit for a living to care about the > smell. I actually respect the tenacity of people with dirty jobs, but > they end up with such jobs out of ignorance or brutal necessity. It > renders them incapable of separating their small reality from bigger > issues that are ultimately much more important. But, intelligent > people can figure the world out at any income level. > Absolute drivel.... Is this mans day worth less to him than your day is to you? Your a yuckung fuppie aren't you. A job does NOT define a man, it's just how he earns a few dollars. He may be a night watchman because he had an eye injury and can't fly jets any more. It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 23:17:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:17:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.energy.hydrogen,sci.energy,sci.physics,sci.environment,rec.org.mensa Subject: Re: What's an H2O2 fart worth these days? References: <1184894219.258836.261880@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184907850.060935.207430@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184931088.081304.153350@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <5gc6epF3fq3ufU1@mid.individual.net> <1184953981.844416.69240@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <4i98n4-2rk.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <4i98n4-2rk.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics nonsense wrote: >> Sevenhundred Elves wrote: > >>> BradGuth wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I was thinking along the lines of having integrated onboard h2o-->h2o2 >>>> conversion, whereas you simply add fresh water to your Hummer or >>>> whatever monster SUV or truck, and plug it in. >>> >>> What on earth are you talking about? How would you make this >>> "conversion", and what problems would it solve??? > > >> You've forgotten you're talking to Brad Guth. > >> The process you're seeking has a name already. > >> It is called "perpetual motion" but he's trying to >> disguise it by blending in an impossible process >> using the chemical his girlfriend uses to convert >> her hair to blonde. > > He is also one of those clueless idiots who believes you stick two > electrodes in a chamber pot of appropriate stuff and can make > anything from hydrogen peroxide to diesel fuel to a pina colada > given enough "free" electricity. > > I'll take two mega watts over the rocks. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 20 23:19:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:19:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.energy.hydrogen,sci.energy,sci.physics,sci.environment,rec.org.mensa Subject: Re: What's an H2O2 fart worth these days? References: <1184894219.258836.261880@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184907850.060935.207430@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1184954323.881281.285290@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a1452b$0$2811$e4fe514c@dreader19.news.xs4all.nl> <0a98n4-2rk.ln1@mail.specsol.com> In-Reply-To: <0a98n4-2rk.ln1@mail.specsol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote: > In sci.physics CRxx wrote: > >> "Michael Moroney" > >>> There are two distinct though related problems. One is how to obtain >>> energy without pollution, CO2/global warming, funding terrorists etc., the >>> other is how to supply power to our cars cleanly and safely. Something >>> like hydrogen or H2O2 does _nothing_ to solve the first problem since >>> there are no hydrogen mines or peroxide wells, and producing enough for >>> our needs would easily keep many belching coal power plants or nukes busy. > >> Pumping water into earth and getting it up again. Load of energy for >> practically free... > > Except for the insanely huge cost of drilling a hole down to the > heat if you aren't located right on top of at thermal vent. > > Then there's the constant maintenance replacement of stuff that gets > corroded and clogged. > > And, we won't even talk about all the equipment needed to keep the > nasty things like sulpher and radon from getting loose. > > Other than that, practically free. > > Cool the core and you'll alter the earths magnetic field, and all the related ripples from that will be the end of the eagles you so desperately want to save. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 07:38:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:38:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 chart References: <1184858501.627929.143690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46A0B093.D7D12711@hotmail.com> <7c4oi.83$vi3.26@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net> <46A0D429.96A53438@hotmail.com> <1184954005.995326.4860@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46A1480C.796039FA@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Eeyore" wrote: >> altheim wrote: >> >>> "Bill Ward" wrote: >>>> CO2 has almost nothing to do with anything but deeply flawed climate >>>> models. >>> With respect to CO2, how are climate models flawed? >> Any model of any process depends on exact knowledge of the behaviour of >> the >> process to be accurate. Any flawed assumption or missing or misunderstood >> input >> will result in an erroneous result. >> >> Are suggesting that climate scientists know everything about how the >> climate >> functions ? The model will simply relicate their biases. Therefore if they >> believe CO2 is a major factor the model will simply give that result too. > > But, as any model or theory needs to be tested, climate change > as a theory also needs to be tested. That is being done right > now as observation and it will take time. So I fail to see how > Bill can say so early in the test (as it were) that the model is > flawed. > > Is it possible to test components of the model - eg, CO2 in > the lab? How did they come to the conclusion that it is a GHG? > If someone fails to insert all the data... say cloud cover effects or tidal effects on weather, then the model would be hard pressed to give correct conclusions. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 07:40:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:40:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: European Heatwave References: <1184731685.125526.194530@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469F7A77.6F50C2F@hotmail.com> <1184882563.793423.307720@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184890837.563224.308610@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184967670.981961.146980@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > altheim wrote: >> "Rich" wrote: >>> john fernbach wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> C THEREFORE you're hurting them if you try to control CO2 emissions, >>>> BECAUSE CO2 curbs will mean curbs on electric power, which means they >>>> can't run their A/C. >>> You seem to busy casting aspersions here to address the issue. >>> >>> How do you propose people handle heat waves with no electricity? >> >> Move into the cellar? > > Here in California houses have no cellars. > > What then? > > Cheers, > > Rich > > >>> I'm not aware of any solar AC units, maybe you are. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Rich >> save the planet , Buy a shovel. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 07:49:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:49:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <5qWdncGSnMZ7Qg3bnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@pipex.net> <1184968674.858324.109000@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit altheim wrote: > "mrbawana2u" wrote: >> On Jul 10, 12:19 pm, "altheim" wrote: >>> "Peter Muehlbauer" wrote: > [...] >>>>>> Anyway, you are able to use Google? >>>>>> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=%22Al+Gore%22+disproved&btnG=Goog... >>>>>> Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 45.000 für "Al Gore" disproved >>>>> However, for Al Gore+substantiated: >>>>> Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 51.100 für "Al Gore" substantiated. >>>>> (0,18 >>>>> Sekunden) >>>> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=altheim+idiot&meta= >>>> Ergebnisse 1 - 10 von ungefähr 1.690 für altheim idiot. (0,53 Sekunden) >>>> Why do you refuse to accept the truth? >>>> AGW is a fake and fraud and Al Gore is the most ridiculous person on >>>> earth. >>> I don't deny that AGW is controversial and those of us who >>> accept the reality of it, for now, may one day find it was a >>> non-event. I just hope, if the reverse proves to be true, that >>> you will also be big enough to admit you were wrong. >> Where we won't be wrong is the left-tards ability to do anything about >> it. YOUR cure is sure to be worse than the disease. Come back and >> talk to us when you have any successes altering the global climate. >> Until then, go sell your snake oil in Africa. > > Well loafing around complacently doing nothing while waiting for > Armageddon certainly isn't going to help. It's just going to make > the rest of the world mad at you for being an idle selfish bastard. > > What are you - a freakin' End of Timer? > what's the difference between spending your money going to the beach and having fun relaxing or spending your money to buy a special car or paying extra, for special planet saving concerts... if in the end none will cure a problem that doesn't exist. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 07:53:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:52:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> <4qloi.2073$%v3.188@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4qloi.2073$%v3.188@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MrCheerful wrote: > "Eeyore" wrote in message > news:46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com... >> >> MrCheerful wrote: >> >>> we are overpopulated now >> By what standard ? >> >> There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know. >> >> Graham > > the carbon calculator: to get it to a sustainable level we need to cull a > sixth of the population, therefore we are over populated > > War can solve that, add the coming war with china into the computer models and that should cut a few billion. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 08:07:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:06:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: All you need>>What you Learned in Kindergarten Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Global warming True Believers think "doing something" will make them feel good even if doing it won't help the problem that's not there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 08:15:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:15:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Bill Wright" wrote: >> "Cynic" wrote: >>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:58:35 +0100, "Pyriform" >>> wrote: >>> The GW crisis will mysteriously disappear in the same way as all the >>> past ones, and a new crisis will take its place. Which you will no >>> doubt believe just as fervently. >> They'll probably have to recycle some old ones. How about >> >> "We're all going to freeze due to global cooling, so we'll die." >> >> "We're all going have to walk because the petrol will run out, so our feet >> will hurt so much that we'll die." >> >> "The Russians are going to bomb us so we'll die." >> >> "We're all going to get AIDS and die." >> >> "We're all going to get mad cow disease and die." >> >> "We're all going to get chicken flu and die." >> >> "Cell phone masts will give us all cancer and then we'll die." >> >> And a really old one, "The commies will take over the world, so there'll >> be a shortage of essentials and we'll die." >> >> I think it would be simpler to bring back religion. Then we could have >> hellfire and damnation, which everyone understands. >> >> Actually, my own list of scarey things includes items never found in the >> media because they aren't politically correct. I have fears that are >> shared by a vast number of people, but you'll never see them discussed. >> The result is that ordinary people suspect a conspiracy. It would be far >> better to air these matters. The government and the meeja would rather >> give us the Global Warming bollocks any day than something that people are >> really bothered about, like: >> >> "Because of the differing birthrates of the UK aboriginal population and >> the UK Muslim immigrant population, by 2060 this country will be >> predominantly Muslim, with all that that implies for our traditional way >> of life and cultural values." >> >> Most people will agree that this is far more worrying than the possibility >> of global warming, but you won't see the matter aired other than in >> whispered converstaions in pubs and workplaces. > > Glad you brought that up. I've been saying the same kind > of thing in various ngs for years. Islam is a juggernaut that > cannot be stopped, unless we too are prepared to die to > oppose it. > Democrats have already surrendered, so apparently only half of us would rather die than live under Muslim religious laws. Write off the carbon footprint of half the us population that prefer freedom over living as Muslims. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 09:55:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:55:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Wright wrote: > "Roderick Stewart" wrote in message > news:VA.00000021.00a2c093@removethisbit.beeb.net... >> In article <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com>, Eeyore wrote: >>> MrCheerful wrote: >>> >>>> we are overpopulated now >>> By what standard ? >>> >> By the standard that our current civilisation depends on using stuff up >> faster than it's being replaced, and thus must inevitably come to an >> end, or change drastically. It may be impossible to predict exactly >> when and how quickly this will happen, but it absolutely certainly >> will. >> >>> There's no shortage of food to feed ppl you know. >> As long as you're one of the lucky ones who doesn't live in Africa. > > So what do the greenies do? They tell Africa that they mustn't burn coal to > generate electricity, thus crippling their attempts to progress from their > current pre-industrial state to western-style prosperity. No .... they Fly their JET to Africa and get pictures taken of them with the people in mud huts then they tell them that they're living in paradise and having a toaster will kill the planet, then they get back in the airconditioned Jet and fly off to a 30,000sq ft house with 5 air conditioners and have their Mexican housekeeper make them a cappuccino and toast. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 10:00:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:00:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: California Wine Cellars might save the planet>>Re: European Heatwave References: <1184731685.125526.194530@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469F7A77.6F50C2F@hotmail.com> <1184882563.793423.307720@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1184890837.563224.308610@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1184967670.981961.146980@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > altheim wrote: >> "Rich" wrote: >>> altheim wrote: >>>> "Rich" wrote: >>>>> john fernbach wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> C THEREFORE you're hurting them if you try to control CO2 emissions, >>>>>> BECAUSE CO2 curbs will mean curbs on electric power, which means they >>>>>> can't run their A/C. >>>>> You seem to busy casting aspersions here to address the issue. >>>>> >>>>> How do you propose people handle heat waves with no electricity? >>>> Move into the cellar? >>> Here in California houses have no cellars. >>> >>> What then? >> >> Arrrrgh! then dig a bloody hole out back. > > There's a concrete patio out back. > >> You sound like the folks in Britain bleating about the flood >> disaster when their homes were built on known flood plains. > > Do I? > >> Sorry as I feel for them, it remains true all the same, that the >> only thing they can do in the circumstances is move upstairs. >> The long term answer is simply not to build dwellings on >> flood plains or build them on stilts. > > I think you have the wrong thread for this. > > This is the "How do you propose people handle heat waves with > no electricity?" thread. > >> Ergo, in California, build houses with cellars. > > This is not the way homes are built in California. I don't see > this changing just because you say so. > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > Wine cellars will save the planet? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 10:14:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:14:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Best guess??>>Re: Latest Science mag: GW models References: <1184886818.568666.261090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184954332.556824.185830@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184986106.481107.183290@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1184990417.535202.108330@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185024779.768755.180750@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46a2130b$0$490$815e3792@news.qwest.net> In-Reply-To: <46a2130b$0$490$815e3792@news.qwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Bedo wrote: > Phil. wrote: > >>>>>>>> Models, Lloyd. That's not science. >>>>>>> Yes, mathematical models are scientific tools. >> This was in response to the comment that "Models, Lloyd. That's not >> science.", which is patently not true as I demonstrated. > > I agree. > > The GCMs are loaded with generally uncontroversial physics. > > However, as a tool, the GCMs represent hypotheses. > Hypotheses are subject to observation for refinement of the theory. > So a guess that has been thought about a little more than a guess formulated while the commercials were on in the middle of American Idol? > As such, it is easy to note the areas in which observations support > the models ( stratosphere, Arctic ) and areas in which the models are > failing and need refinement ( tropical troposphere ). > > http://climatewatcher.blogspot.com/ -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 19:41:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:41:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Making things up, or seeing things that aren't there, AGAIN. References: <1184886818.568666.261090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184892957.293291.229170@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185058304.102074.134500@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185058304.102074.134500@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Jul 19, 8:55 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Ray's making things up, or seeing things that aren't there, AGAIN. >> >> On Jul 19, 4:13 pm, raylopez99 wrote: >> >>> Science mag has an article this month on how some neutral earth >> Which month? Which issue? >> "Science" is a weekly publication. >> Who are the authors? >> >> Ray, you've misread scientific articles >> several times on this forum. Why don't >> you let someone else check your claims? > > Roger - But Ray also summarizes the report as indicating that GW and > its effects could also be GREATER than previously predicted, due to > the aerosol effects. > > One way to look at the report and Ray's summary of it is to see it as > hostile to the IPCC and to various climate scientists and politicians > and business CEOs who say we need to act on GH gases. "It's not > certain yet" is obviously one way to argue that we should go on with > biz as usual. > > But another way to look at the report is to see it as saying that the > STAKES of the gamble we're undertaking with the climate could be even > greater than we already thought. > > We're at the casinos at Las Vegas -- or Monte Carlo - or Atlantic City > or wheverever. And we're betting the future liveability of our home > -- the Earth -- at the blackjack tables. And guess what -- the > uncertainty of the odds and the size of the possible stakes has just > increased. > > Should we make the bet? > fold and wait for a better hand. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 19:44:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:44:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Trust the UN?Re: Latest Science mag: GW models much more variable than thought- References: <1184886818.568666.261090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1184954332.556824.185830@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184986106.481107.183290@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46A2464D.7D236CCF@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:24:06 +0000, altheim wrote: > >> "Eeyore" wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> >>>> Bill Ward wrote: >>>> >>>>> Models, Lloyd. That's not science. >>>> Yes, mathematical models are scientific tools. Try working with one. >>>> You could learn something. >>> I use models all the time. >>> >>> I've yet to find one that's totally flaw free. A model is only as good >>> as the >>> assumptions and simplifications (or errors) that went into it. >>> >>> In short, they prove nothing other than the possible bias of the ppl who >>> made >>> the model. >> In that case how would they ever get past peer review? > > There are troubling indications that the IPCC peer review process has been > corrupted, perhaps by too much money and status. Check out both sides of > the "hockey stick" controversy, and the close relationships among those on > the AGW "team". It's a pretty close-knit group. AIUI, one of Mann's > former grad students was involved in investigating the issue. Also read > comments by former IPCC members, like Lindzen. > Oil for Food... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 20:21:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:21:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The problem, is the Third World References: <1185033261.808773.132370@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46A26504.94AE925B@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A26504.94AE925B@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE wrote: > >> the main cause of the problem is the Third World. > > Oh really ? > > Must be all those dung fires. > > Graham > No it's all that Tax money that Liberals send to them, We have to work two jobs and drive three times as much to pay all the taxes and still be able to live one step above the third world. Stop giving away tax money and we wouldn't have to work sixteen hours, then the lights would be off more. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 20:32:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:32:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: A fool on the verge of comprehension References: <1185033261.808773.132370@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185038547.618021.192970@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185047533.778866.316120@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185047533.778866.316120@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Jul 21, 10:22 am, Enough Already wrote: > > You're a classic example of a left-tard moron. > Why do you tards obsess on things you can't change? The lefties never want to adapt, they think the world has to adapt to them. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 21 20:44:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:44:15 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Those twelve monkeys were wussies>>Re: A Couple of Questions References: <1185042829.153758.143060@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185047298.470791.233060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185047298.470791.233060@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >> Has anyone read or done work here that is more conclusive? > > Carbon dioxide is a coolant. > Haven't you ever seen 'The 12 Monkeys'? They show your near future. > > http://thecia.com.au/reviews/1/images/12-monkeys-6.jpg > Co2 is also cold when it decompresses from a fire extinguisher. If co2 hold heat so well, why don't we use to heat/insulate in houses? And you thought there were only twelve monkeys From - Sat Jul 21 21:06:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:06:22 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Global Warming Is a PC term Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Political Correctness Following is the winning entry from an annual contest calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year's term: Political Correctness, which I might add was coined by a liberal. "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end." From - Sun Jul 22 09:10:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:10:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: > Democrats like power more than living carbon zero life< Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Democrats/Liberals use tax money for a give away to get votes, they want the illegal aliens to vote, so they can pander to them and get more votes. Now they want their environmentalist voting block expanded. So now they found a new way to dole out money and fear, they call it global warming.... They promote it politically and they support it via environmentalist and they pour cash into it via the giving of grants, when you have all these factors being directed towards preconceived result that soaks us fo money and votes. It's like selling your house, The Realtor - the loan company - and the appraiser will all tell you it's worth what ever you think it is, to get it listed, once listed they'll move the bar a little lower to get you to accept an offer. The point being that they all get something by making you believe in something that(there or not) will make themselves money and gain power in the industry. These people can fudge numbers, they can lie, they can make a believer out of you, with numbers and future predictions... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 09:56:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 09:56:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <1183666682.22903.0@despina.uk.clara.net> <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> <46A25F78.8515393D@hotmail.com> <1Xvoi.317$gX5.245@newsfe2-win.ntli.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Bill Wright" wrote: >> "altheim" wrote: >>> Was that meant to be facetious? They're congested because >>> there are too many vehicles on the roads. >> No, the roads are congested because the highway infrastructure is twenty >> years out of date. They should get some decent roads build and let us get >> on with wealth creation instead of sitting in traffic jams. > > Oh hey! I couldn't agree more. I'm a motorist too and I just hate > sitting in traffic jams. > > To help the Co2 that worries so many.... limit the population of cities to what the reasonable flow of traffic will handle(or just a MAX capacity for any city). If a business wants to be there, they'll increase traffic into town, lets tax them with the "impact-fees/Co2-tax" to add road capacity or reject them to keep the trafic flowing instead of sitting in traffic wasting gas and increasing dreaded Co2. LETS JUST STOP THIS WAGON BEFORE IT GOES OVER THE CLIFF Once you say TAX and business in the same sentence. money will dry up for the Global warming nuts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 10:07:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:07:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.gossip.celebrities,rec.travel.europe,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.talk.royalty Subject: Re: London flooding, Britain under water References: <9uj4a390cnp95dh61fdopluso3a91h8khn@news> <1185057819.131651.192770@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "john fernbach" wrote: >> Ah, but as Mrbawana would say - let's look on the bright side on this >> story. >> >> At least GW isn't causing England to suffer from a summer DROUGHT! > > No. We had that last year and for several years before - to the extent > that our water reservoirs were running dry. We had hosepipe bans > everywhere and some places were rationed on standpipes in the > street. > > That was very unusual - almost as unusual as the current flooding. > These are new extremes. > Is there somewhere that has perfect weather, now or in the past 8000 years? I've live around and every place I've been has it's little problems like tornado's to hurricanes, to permafrost. Most people complain all the time about the weather... it's hot it's cold, will this rain ever stop.... Imagine an entire network called the weather channel? while every other broadcaster and internet news site has weather reports also. Maybe Xanax will help the weather? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 10:11:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:11:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> <4f06635c45charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4f06635c45charles@charleshope.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit charles wrote: > In article , > Cynic wrote: >> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:42:07 +0100, "Bill Wright" >> wrote: > >>> I've often wondered what went wrong with Africa, on the longest time >>> scale. After all, Africa was the cradle of humanity. You'd think that >>> head start would have led to many early African civilisations of great >>> sophistication. But it didn't. Think of the Ancient Egyptians, the >>> Aztecs, the Mesopotanians, the Romans, the Ancient Chinese. But Africa? >>> Nothing! How odd. Obviously I mean proper Africa, not the top bit where >>> Egypt is. Strange that all they did was run around in the jungle for >>> fifty thousand years until the Europeans came to rape, loop, and >>> pillage, and take slaves. > >> My theory on that one is that the climate and natural food supply in >> Africa is such that there was no need for people to innovate and >> invent in order to provide a comfortable living environment. > > and the the Europeans came along and provided the 'benefits' of modern > medicine. > They cured them right to death huh... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 10:19:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:19:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Fran" wrote: >> 13th monkey <13thmon...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote: >>> Political Correctness >>> >>> Following is the winning entry from an >>> annual contest calling for the most >>> appropriate definition of a contemporary >>> term. This year's term: Political Correctness, >>> which I might add was coined by a liberal. >>> >>> "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered >>> by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and >>> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous >>> mainstream media, which holds forth the >>> proposition that it is entirely possible to >>> pick up a turd by the clean end." >> >> Actually, the concept of political correctness exists in all >> societies, whether liberal or not. Obsession with the use of "PC" to >> stifle debate however, is overwhelmingly a canard of the right. > > The right? I thought it was a lefty thing. > >> Whether things are impolitic to say does not, of course, bear any >> relationship to whether uttering them leaves people more enlightened >> as to their true circumstances. > Will there be another Mark Twain in our time? Can you thank PC for that? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 10:49:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:49:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.religion,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.howard-stern Subject: Re: ======= TELEVANGELIST FINALLY CROAKS (CANCER)!!! <======= References: <1185075249.227683.96610@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1185115102.606065.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185115102.606065.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Red wrote: > Bullshit delted. > > I hear the bells tolling for Elizabeth Edwards too! > You too will get to take that final dirt nap. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 10:52:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:52:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.usa,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Suggestions for 'President' Cheney's to-do list. References: <1184985037.462442.200450@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin Cunningham wrote: > "SyVyN11" wrote in message > news:oDeoi.10425$Od7.5621@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Are you scared of Clinton? > > Tired of Clinton! -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 11:15:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:14:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.usa Subject: Re: REPUBLICANS THRIVE ON TERROR IN THE UNITED STATES OF HYSTERIA References: <1185092801.321126.123700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185101511.299420.76240@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a34b7e$0$31282$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46a34b7e$0$31282$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> Nothing illustrated that better than when that steam pipe went in NY. >> >> All the cable channels had it on and they ALL kept telling people "not to >> worry" it wasn't a "terrorist attack", I had this mental picture of >> cowardly snivelling reichtards, in trailer parks all over the country, >> diving under the bed, waiting for little georgie bush to come and give >> them >> a BIG hug and tell them it's ok... Clinton is dating all the trailer trash, so they are all on the bed, not under it... It was Democrats that said all you need to do is wave a $100 bill in a trailer park. So it's Clinton/Democrats that are hugging and telling them it's OK. While we have seen the results of Terrorist attacks, Democrat/Liberals are scaring the trailer people with Global Warming, using huge concerts and mass media, but we haven't seen any PROOF that the globe is warming or warming more or faster than it has before, or if it's human, natural/magnetic, or by hidden solar means. If it were human caused, then positive proof could be shown in the Media that has only broadcast conjecture and Consensus. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 11:26:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:26:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.legal,uk.misc,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Calculate your carbon footprint References: <_Whji.13945$_l6.8015@newsfe6-win.ntli.net> <46A10C45.BCC52A59@hotmail.com> <2j8oi.1997$%v3.256@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46A126F9.3BB31FFA@hotmail.com> <46A25F78.8515393D@hotmail.com> <1Xvoi.317$gX5.245@newsfe2-win.ntli.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan White wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:44:59 GMT, "altheim" wrote: > >> The first motorway (the M1)... > > The first motorway was the Preston by-pass, opened in the mid '50s. > I was under the impression that Hitler had built the Autobon during WWII for troop and government to move more quickly. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 11:30:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:30:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Theories Fizzle, New Studies Show References: <1185072513.376204.84650@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185075997.976457.153730@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a37014$0$25587$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <46a37014$0$25587$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote in message > news:1185075997.976457.153730@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 21, 7:48 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >>> http://www.tylerpaper.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070721/OPINION... >>> >>> Global Warming Theories Fizzle, New Studies Show >>> >>> With little fanfare, claims of alarming changes in nature because of >>> global warming are being discredited. >>> >>> Results of two new studies of historical hurricane patterns add to a >>> growing body of research that discredits global warming alarmism, said >>> James M. Taylor, an environmental policy senior fellow at The >>> Heartland Institute. >> An author who's a representative of a tobacco lobbyist, >> writing in a single family owned small town newspaper >> from Northeast Texas is not a very reliable source for >> science information. Apparently, only these small town >> newspapers are too poor to afford to fact check articles >> like this. A larger big city newspaper would very likely >> reject this piece because of the many obviously incorrect >> statements it contains. >> > > Why sure, Greenpeace and their multitude of scare stories are much more > reliable eh Roger. > > A hundred people telling a lie won't make it the truth, it only takes one person to tell the truth. Small newspapers are FREE PRESS. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 11:33:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:33:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 22, 6:20 pm, Sylvia Else wrote: >> Fran wrote: >>> Anyone who is paying attention and doesn't have their fingers in their >>> ears. >>> What this has to do with PC is something you'll need to outline. >> It's probably more of a sacred cow. >> >> Sylvia. > > Oh, well that's different. I was listening to the BBC -- the Heart and > Mind show IIRC -- and there was a chap on some US council who refused > to say the Pledge of Allegiance in 2005 on the grounds of atheism. > > He suffered a recall and got voted off 900-600. > > He was a liberal, so I suppose one might say his ox was gored. > > Ox or not, Political Correctness applies all over. I believe even J > Edgar Hoover used it -- to descibe those who were bona fide Americans > like him. > > Fran > He used extortion if you can believe the stories. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 11:58:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:58:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.gw-bush,alt.politics.democrat,alt.politics.greens,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.society.liberalism Subject: Re: DUMBSHIT, PEA BRAINED U.S. MILITARY OFFICIALS FINALLY REALIZE THEY LOST in IRAQ References: <42ACC4B3.98ED3221@IRAQ.NET> In-Reply-To: <42ACC4B3.98ED3221@IRAQ.NET> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - R O A C H M O T E L - wrote: > BAGHDAD, Iraq - (KRT) - A growing number of senior American military > officers in Iraq have concluded that there is no long-term military > solution to an insurgency that has killed thousands of Iraqis and more > than 1,700 U.S. troops during the past two years. You can't lose till you give up and surrender, like our Democrat run Congress has.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 12:01:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:01:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrat,alt.politics.org.fbi,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.socialism,soc.culture.usa Subject: Re: Leaving the Left References: <1117048742.958793.275890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2pydnTwecoXKlQjfRVn-3w@look.ca> <1117164514.876405.18380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1117846903.966711.38430@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1117867202.987486.101460@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2fdae$42a7a216$a227fd53$25720@ALLTEL.NET> <1118289669.778460.251170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9f8de$42ab914f$a227fdae$5467@ALLTEL.NET> <1118672393.810650.266450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1118672393.810650.266450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nitin_paul_batra@hotmail.com wrote: > Graduating high school, and learning to read and write and balance a > checkbook, does not mean someone is going to get a decent wage. The > pros of raising the minimum wage outweigh the cons. > If there's a minimum, why not a maximum.... Minimum can be $40,000 and max $60,000 per year. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 15:48:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:48:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "Stormy Weather -- Keeps Raining All the Time ..." References: <1185111554.891104.231100@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185113065.924399.6370@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46a37118$0$25585$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185130781.720481.285380@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1185131225.794561.300930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185131225.794561.300930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > "Do you not know how to read the signs of the times? > -- Jesus of Nazareth > > > > Are they printed in English and Spanish? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 15:55:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:55:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Theories Fizzle, New Studies Show References: <1185072513.376204.84650@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185075997.976457.153730@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a37014$0$25587$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185129993.184099.137580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185129993.184099.137580@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit owl wrote: > On Jul 22, 11:30 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> A hundred people telling a lie won't make it the truth, it only takes >> one person to tell the truth. Small newspapers are FREE PRESS. > > So when are you going to start listening to the truth? I listen for it, so then I can listen to it. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 16:09:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:08:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <1184711096.615009.88270@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185114918.265732.194210@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <6b-dnUrH1pfMCD7bnZ2dnUVZ8qCqnZ2d@bt.com> <1185127657.305751.132930@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185134246.961845.10550@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185134246.961845.10550@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Einar wrote: > Andrew Swallow wrote: >> Einar wrote: >>> Andrew Swallow wrote: >> Too complex. Just use high voltage electrical cables and pylons. >> >> For really long distances we may wish to increase the voltage and height >> of the pylons. >> >> Andrew Swallow > > That will result in a considerable transmission powerloss. > > Cheers, Einar > That's OK, we just charge more.... *Ready Killowatt* knows how it's done. Being as we're REGULATED - the more money that passes through our hands the bigger that 10% we get to keep becomes. That's why Nuclear is great, billions are involved and 10% of that is better than 10% of millions. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 16:19:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0019 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:19:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad wrote: > If he does not owe allegiance to his country, whom does he have > allegiance to? > > > Cheers, > > > Rich > > > It's all about the words "under God" which were added to the pledge > much later. > Wiki makes for interesting reading on the subject. Americans get bent > out of shape so easily. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance > > Brad. So if you believe in global warming, you *can't* say the pledge either, due to the "Spacious skies" line in it? The skies, they're Over crowded with Co2 you know - and Jets trying to get to concerts. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 17:51:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:50:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.autos,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184855988.920934.62570@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469F79F4.8A49F634@hotmail.com> <46a001f3$0$30628$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184895292.023412.218470@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46a01dd5$0$20541$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a1f504$0$32559$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46A261AC.479D7A0E@hotmail.com> <46a27719$0$20530$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4smdnQv90fBzIT_bnZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@giganews.com> <46a2c2f9$0$16571$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1185121895.566111.253940@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46a389e0$0$29702$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1185136777.786588.82390@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185136777.786588.82390@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit donquijote1954 wrote: > On Jul 22, 12:46 pm, Jeff DeWitt wrote: >> donquijote1954 wrote: >>> On Jul 21, 10:37 pm, Jeff DeWitt wrote: >>>> 80 Knight wrote: >>>>> "Keith Schiffner" wrote in message >>>>> news:y_qdnS24HP7SAD_bnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@bresnan.com... >>>>> Does it make you feel more like a man to be able to drive a manual? Sounds >>>>> like someone has a complex. If everything were so easy like building a bridge or house or driving a stick.... Women and children would be building and driving them. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 20:03:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:03:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.usa Subject: Re: REPUBLICANS THRIVE ON TERROR IN THE UNITED STATES OF HYSTERIA References: <1185092801.321126.123700@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185101511.299420.76240@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a34b7e$0$31282$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin Cunningham wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:UuKoi.1110$lX.62@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>>> Nothing illustrated that better than when that steam pipe went in NY. >>>> >>>> All the cable channels had it on and they ALL kept telling people "not >>>> to >>>> worry" it wasn't a "terrorist attack", I had this mental picture of >>>> cowardly snivelling reichtards, in trailer parks all over the country, >>>> diving under the bed, waiting for little georgie bush to come and give >>>> them >>>> a BIG hug and tell them it's ok... >> Clinton is dating all the trailer trash, so they are all on the bed, not >> under it... It was Democrats that said all you need to do is wave a $100 >> bill in a trailer park. So it's Clinton/Democrats that are hugging and >> telling them it's OK. >> >> While we have seen the results of Terrorist attacks, Democrat/Liberals are >> scaring the trailer people with Global Warming, using huge concerts and >> mass media, but we haven't seen any PROOF that the globe is warming or >> warming more or faster than it has before, or if it's human, >> natural/magnetic, or by hidden solar means. If it were human caused, then >> positive proof could be shown in the Media that has only broadcast >> conjecture and Consensus. >> >> -- > Look, moron, the prool for global warming, just get the UN report. There > aren't any large number of scientific papers that say that global warming > isn't there. There are about a 1,000 papers that say it is real. > > Idiots like you will say moronic things like "but we haven't seen any PROOF > that the globe is warming or warming more or faster than it has before," > while there isn't one real scientist that will agree with you. Lets > emphasize that, there is not a scientist that will agree with you. So > slick, what you gonna do? I have a feeling that you will keep on being > stupid. > > Wow you convinced me... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sun Jul 22 21:06:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:06:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming skepticism References: <1185151226.912563.15710@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185151226.912563.15710@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit d.086@hotmail.com wrote: > Global warming skepticism > > > > 7/5/2007 4:34:14 PM > > As a chemical engineer I read extensively all sides of the Global > Warming issue. I remain very skeptical that carbon dioxide is the > primary cause and that humans either have caused it or can reverse > it. > As further evidence, NASA recently reported that the polar ice caps on > Mars are melting, probably by the same effect. I wonder how Al Gore > will try to blame this on humans. > We sent SUV ROVERS MADE BY NASA to mars... of course NASA will deny that SUV's are causing it, otherwise the GW nuts will blame them for polluting Mars. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 09:55:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:55:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming skepticism References: <1185151226.912563.15710@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185156189.253342.319070@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185188633.409073.35220@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185188633.409073.35220@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 23, 12:03 pm, owl wrote: >> On Jul 22, 8:40 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>> Global warming skepticism >>> 7/5/2007 4:34:14 PM >> That's a mish-mash of 'stuff'. Water vapour is a short-term, non- >> pervasive, feedback. CO2 is a ubiquitous, pervasive, force. Humans >> account for virtually all of the 35% increase, and the rise is >> accelerating. We are cutting back every day just look at Gore, his JET is in the Hanger and he's buying offsets when it's over used... So therefore we can't be accelerating the Co2 content, we keep Africa in poverty to keep them from using fossil, we are more solar and more wind and more Prius enhanced than ever before... Population growth is down, Chinese alone have cut global population on a grand scale. Your being an alarmist here... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 10:42:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:42:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185172108.697004.151260@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1185178163.747601.319500@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <5eudnTrv9NMm4DnbnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <5eudnTrv9NMm4DnbnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > owl wrote: >> On Jul 23, 2:28 am, Fran wrote: >>> On Jul 23, 5:40 am, Rich wrote: >>> If there is a fundamental flaw in the concept of AGW, it will be found. >> >> After a decade of listening to the contrarians, it's way passed the >> point of waitnsee. If anything shows up that reduces or removes the >> concern, fine. The current prognosis says start responding now - or >> the cost, dislocation, and damage just gets worse. Damage just gets worse? What has Global Warming damaged? and what's the proof it was Global warming and not simply bad weather like we have had all along, since the hurricane I was in when I was born. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 10:59:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:59:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <-qadnU9RssoTIT7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@comcast.com> <1185162207.828377.99440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185188458.779498.83160@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Arthur Brain" wrote: >> Rich wrote: >> >>> Atheism is not a lack of theism anyway, it's the flip side of the >>> theism coin. From the exact same lack of data the theist believes >>> there is a god and the atheist believes there is no god. Neither >>> has a shred of direct evidence, and neither can prove the existence >>> or non-existence of god, it's a belief system for both. >> Utter crapola. >> >> Your paragraph is logically unsound and intellectually incoherent. > > Well, I was able to understand it so let me try: God is a mere > concept in which you either believe or disbelieve. It is possible > to be so undecided that you hold neither belief nor disbelief - > that, I think would make you an agnostic - but the latter, disbelief, > is also a belief since it means to believe there is no god. Belief > systems are polarised mental states with absolute belief at one > end and absolute disbelief at the other and with varying levels > of belief in-between. > I can't believe it... I believe you did it. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 11:11:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:11:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.media,soc.culture.african.american,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.politics.democrats Subject: Re: SUPER army tank destroyed... References: <1185181563.714561.246130@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <%u0pi.660$Ub7.552@trnddc04> <1185202306.247068.245090@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185202306.247068.245090@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lorad474@cs.com wrote: > On Jul 23, 6:27 am, Neolibertarian wrote: > >> After all, no German attacked us at Pearl Harbor. And Germany was >> contained in 1941. Not a threat, really, except from her U-Boat fleet. >> And these would certainly have left the US alone had we promised not to >> sell munitions and military equipment to the USSR and Britain. >> >> No defense, indeed. >> >> However, the US was certainly justified in attacking Iraq in 2003. > > Explain how the current administration was 'justified' in attacking > Iraq in 2003. > ..if you can. But you can't. > > It was a "consensus" -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 12:49:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:48:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 23, 11:12 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Sea level and global mean air temperatures have risen more since 1990 >> than climate models used in the IPCC predicted, and IPCC projections >> may underestimate future sea levels. >> There is only so much ice, so the sea level could only rise by that much regardless of their estimates. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 13:00:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:00:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.autos,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184855988.920934.62570@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <469F79F4.8A49F634@hotmail.com> <46a001f3$0$30628$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1184895292.023412.218470@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46a01dd5$0$20541$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a1f504$0$32559$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46A261AC.479D7A0E@hotmail.com> <46a27719$0$20530$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4smdnQv90fBzIT_bnZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@giganews.com> <46a2c2f9$0$16571$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <0cSdnexk_PW8lD7bnZ2dnUVZ_qy3nZ2d@giganews.com> <1185122359.806735.229710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185196512.224677.222230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 80 Knight wrote: > "donquijote1954" wrote in message > news:1185196512.224677.222230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 22, 9:34 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" wrote: >>> "donquijote1954" wrote in message >>> >>>> Do you also support that cell phone use should be a preference? >>> There are times it can be used safely, there are times it should not be >>> turned on. Good drivers know the difference, but it has no bearing on >>> the >>> type of tramsission you shoose to use. >> AUTOMATIC LEADS TO PHONE USE AND RECKLESS DRIVING, just like smoking >> leads to cancer. > > Wow, again. You need to put your tin-foil hat back on and leave mommy's > basement more often. > > I can loan you my foil hat, it keeps the aliens away. I used to get abducted and gang probed all the time, but with mt new, specially designed foil hat that as a Global warming guru/UFOligist engineered. But wait... if you order NOW you get not one but two foil hats, yes the one with the ex-caliber corona vein and the new dress up design that looks like a Derby... great for those special occasions. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 13:15:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:14:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Jul 23, 11:12 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> Sea level and global mean air temperatures have risen more since 1990 >>>> than climate models used in the IPCC predicted, and IPCC projections >>>> may underestimate future sea levels. >>>> >> >> There is only so much ice, so the sea level could only rise by that >> much regardless of their estimates. > > Well not quite. The Ross ice shelf and arctic ice are floating ice, > if they melt sea level won't rise at all. Only if the landbound ice > melts can said melting change sea level. I gotcha, I actually took that into account, Ice below the present level won't raise the water level. While I didn't delve into the location and make it a heated issue, I did get something right, "it can still only rise so much". But I accept your improvement of the statement. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 13:20:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:20:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <-qadnU9RssoTIT7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@comcast.com> <1185162207.828377.99440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185188458.779498.83160@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <6n3pi.2693$MW6.1177@bignews3.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "Rich" wrote >> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> altheim wrote: >>>> "Arthur Brain" wrote: >>>>> Rich wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Atheism is not a lack of theism anyway, it's the flip side of the >>>>>> theism coin. From the exact same lack of data the theist believes >>>>>> there is a god and the atheist believes there is no god. Neither >>>>>> has a shred of direct evidence, and neither can prove the existence >>>>>> or non-existence of god, it's a belief system for both. >>>>> Utter crapola. >>>>> >>>>> Your paragraph is logically unsound and intellectually incoherent. >>>> Well, I was able to understand it so let me try: God is a mere >>>> concept in which you either believe or disbelieve. It is possible >>>> to be so undecided that you hold neither belief nor disbelief - >>>> that, I think would make you an agnostic - but the latter, disbelief, >>>> is also a belief since it means to believe there is no god. Belief >>>> systems are polarised mental states with absolute belief at one >>>> end and absolute disbelief at the other and with varying levels >>>> of belief in-between. >>>> >>> I can't believe it... I believe you did it. >> I believe I know what 'dog' is spelled backwards. :-) > > I believe I'll get another beer now. ^^ Better save some steps and Co2 exhaust, just get two beers while your there. Life is GRAND, Death is thirty GRAND -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 13:44:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:44:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Jul 23, 9:48 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > [ . . . ] >> There is only so much ice, so the sea >> level could only rise by that much >> regardless of their estimates. > > Shush! Water expands when heated. > OK - I'll Bite.... how much will heating the ocean one degree raise the ocean? But I keep hearing that the melting ice is cooling the ocean, so is the level rising from volume increase or dropping due to the ocean waters cooling? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 20:55:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:55:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Let's s(h)ave the Earth References: <1185225748.566877.286830@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185226193.061583.296810@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185226193.061583.296810@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hbarwood wrote: > On Jul 23, 4:22 pm, Shine wrote: >> X-No-Archive: >> I have a curious question about Global Warming that has been bothering >> me for a long time. One of the concerns of Global Warming is that the >> ice is melting, causing the sea level to rise and submerge low-lying >> land. Now my question is: if the surface of the earth above the sea >> level was cut at the sea level and then dumped it into the oceans, by >> how much would the sea level rise around the globe? >> I hope someone can make the calculations and get me a decent answer. > > No calculations needed. Everything would be underwater. If tectonic > forces stop operating, all land would erode to at or below sea level. > Period. > The whole wonderful part of the "Living earth" religion is that the earth changes and renews it's self. New land is made, as old land is devoured... Rejoice in the rebirth, the planet is changing, why be afraid? Will death and misery be any different than it was when ice ages froze and killed our ancestors? From the True believers viewpoint, the earth is simply fighting off a cold virus and the symptom is a fever. Be happy relax and sleep well. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 21:13:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:13:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The causes of Sea Level Rise References: <1185237529.245522.314590@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185237529.245522.314590@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Without any vagueness whatsoever, I state that > the two major causes of the recent observed > sea level rise are melting land based ice, and > thermal expansion. Both of these are the result > of a warming planet. For all the gory details, > please see: > http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Pub_Ch05.pdf > > > On Jul 23, 12:01 pm, "Peter Muehlbauer" > wrote: >> "Roger Coppock" wrote >> >>> On Jul 23, 9:48 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> [ . . . ] >>>> There is only so much ice, so the sea >>>> level could only rise by that much >>>> regardless of their estimates. >>> Shush! Water expands when heated. >> ROFL! >> >> Ok, we have >> >> 1) sea level rise by meltig water... >> >> No. >> >> 2) sea level rise by heating water... >> >> No. >> >> 3) sea level rise perhaps by whales getting fatter and fatter... >> >> Sounds more convincing. >> >> 4) ...what's next? >> >> Roger, did you ever mention, that plate tectonics are much more effective >> in rising or declining sea levels, than those figurative little ice cubes in the >> ocean soup? >> Or intertidal differences? > The loss of mass(space trash) of the planet earth is causing the natural atmospheric pressure to drift to the lighter side and so the water is expanding, and swollowing up land as the level rises. The moon it getting closer(or the mass is greater from old lunar landers) and the gravitational pull on the ocean is greater and the tides are higher making it appear the ocean is rising. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 21:17:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:17:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185172108.697004.151260@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <46a45784@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185177844.951869.130110@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a51025@news.comindico.com.au> <1185235549.495592.143790@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:05:49 -0700, Fran wrote: > >> On Jul 24, 6:31 am, "Bighus Dikkus" wrote: >>> "Fran" wrote in message >>> >>> news:1185177844.951869.130110@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 23, 5:23 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >>>>> "Fran" wrote in message >>>>> news:1185172108.697004.151260@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> On Jul 23, 5:40 am, Rich wrote: It seems to >>>>>> me that if the deniers want to argue that nothing should be done -- >>>>> WRONG. >>>>> Most deniers see the current global warming scare as a vehicle for >>>>> making us >>>>> poorer and less free under the yoke of a world order. >>>> So it's a conspiracy against 'us'. Who are 'us' and who are 'them'? >>>>> Most probably think that we should tackle REAL POLLUTION rather than >>>>> falling for >>>>> fantasies about CO2. >>>> 'Real' pollution being what, exactly? >>> You cannot be serious!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >>> >> Take a deep breath. I was inviting "Bonzo" to specify what he thought >> 'real' pollution was that he was concerned about. In all of the welter of >> moaning about AGW mitigation, I can't recall him mentioning anything he >> sees as a real environmental problem. >> >>> Have a look at the state of our rivers. Have a look at the air quality >>> of our capital cities. >>> >>> >> A matter I've spoken about on a number of occasions. >> >>> You can tackle these and still be sceptical of the global warming >>> bullshit >> But the question is relevant because if it turns out that the most >> cost-effective and effcient ways of tackling these problems turns out >> involving doing pretty much what acceptance of AGW would imply, then the >> scepticism is purely academic. If, in the best case scenario for the >> sceptics, you still have to support doing pretty much the same research >> and pretty much the same mitigation and adaptation, then the sceptics >> might as well remove their tinfoil hats and argue about the detail of what >> to do. > > You're coming close to admitting AGW is a colossal bait-and-switch. The only thing wrong is that the True Believers who've been saved by Al Gore, need the tinfoil hats... and a stint in a rehab. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 21:33:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:33:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <-qadnU9RssoTIT7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@comcast.com> <1185162207.828377.99440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185187316.306148.160060@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1JydnZAEBsHERTnbnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com> <1185236987.462095.301300@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185236987.462095.301300@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Jul 24, 2:34 am, Rich wrote: >> Fran wrote: >>> On Jul 23, 8:15 pm, Rich wrote: > Your preference for faith is amusing, given your preference for > scepticism in the face of well founded scientifc claims about climate > change. > > Fran > Faith is free of well founded scientific claims, but then so is global warming, so Which God or how many Gods will you believe in? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 21:45:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:45:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.autos,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184855988.920934.62570@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a01dd5$0$20541$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a1f504$0$32559$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46A261AC.479D7A0E@hotmail.com> <46a27719$0$20530$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4smdnQv90fBzIT_bnZ2dnUVZ_qSonZ2d@giganews.com> <46a2c2f9$0$16571$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1185121895.566111.253940@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46a389e0$0$29702$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a3aefa$0$30670$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <%xRoi.27713$2v1.14051@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> <46a3f290$0$31294$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1YSoi.51091$5j1.1854@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> <46a409fe$0$4699$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a546ac$0$16597$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a550db$0$32530$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46a550db$0$32530$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff DeWitt wrote: > BrianNZ wrote: >> Jeff DeWitt wrote: >> >> >>> I LOVE doing what I call road thrashes, that is driving really long >>> distances without any planned stops, such as last summer when I drove >>> from Raleigh NC to St. Louis, and that's just what I did. >>> >>> Jeff DeWitt >> >> >> A motorcyclist trapped in a car drivers body!......A transvehicle? >> >> LOVE is a such a strong word. :) > > It fits, what I'd REALLY like to do is get in my Studebaker pickup > (after considerable work of course!) along with my big goofy dog and > drive north... ALL the way north to Alaska. > > Motorcycles are cool, but bugs, rocks thrown up from trucks and idiots > in cars aren't. I've put 4 windshields in my Jeep (and need one in my > truck) because of rocks from trucks, anything that hits hard enough to > crack that thick glass would have to HURT if it hit you. > > Jeff DeWitt > Been on Scooters since I was 15 and it's fun, but it's better on back roads, away from the 18 wheelers that lose tires and leave scrap all over the road. I've been hit by big bugs... they sting but the worst had to be an empty plastic trash bag at 70mph, it flew up and nearly tore me off the bike. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Mon Jul 23 22:23:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:23:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Warming Is a PC term References: <1185070389.399019.173210@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2f73f$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185092280.060048.88930@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a3134a$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1185113819.139926.94380@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185134728.825838.283240@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <-qadnU9RssoTIT7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@comcast.com> <1185162207.828377.99440@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185187316.306148.160060@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1JydnZAEBsHERTnbnZ2dnUVZ_t6onZ2d@comcast.com> <1185236987.462095.301300@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1185242161.338855@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> In-Reply-To: <1185242161.338855@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit imorf wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> free of well founded scientific claims, but then so is global warming > > well that's a lie right there. > why bother conversing with dipshits that can't even get the basics right? That's OK by me. Since there is no well founded science in the GW theory, just Consensus. While I believe in well founded consensus, it's not that I believe it's accurate. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 10:16:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:16:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: A question : concern on 2007 incidents References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bran wrote: > I am not an expert, but I have a question on observations I have read in > the media recently that together build a picture of something major that > has happened in 2007 in the oceans. > > I live in Britain, we have had a lot of rain and flooding during > June/July, amongst the worst on record. I am told that this was due to > the Jet Stream shifting further south than normal, bringing with it the > rain, I believe that this rain usually falls in the North Sea and around > Iceland. > > I decided to check on the weather for Iceland, indeed they have enjoyed > unusual warm weather and little rain, to the point farmers are concerned > they will have enough feed for their animals during the winter. > > Further in Texas they have had huge amounts of rain, a place that > usually is in drought. In Los Angeles they have had the sort of rain > that the Death Valley gets, the worst lack of rain for 130 years. > > Scientists are not quite sure what caused all the above, they say it is > not connected to El Nino. > > The weather is not the main issue I am writing, it was what I discovered > during my reading of various reports on the weather. > > Scientists report that during 2007 there has been an unusual die off of > Shearwaters, this is a type of Atlantic seabird that lives all its life > on the oceans. Scientists carried out tests but could not determine > cause of death, it appeared the birds had starved to death. Their main > food source is krill. Scientists consider the deaths of these birds a > mystery. > > Humboldt squid, normally found in the warm seas off Mexico and South > America, are appearing in large numbers in Monterey Bay near San > Fransisco. The squid are a form of giant squid, known to attack scuba > divers and are washing up on the beaches. The squid eat krill, again the > scientists are not sure why the squid are appearing in Monterey Bay. > > Various varieties of whale are appearing near the coasts of the USA and > Australia where they are getting beached or coming into collision with > shipping. The whale, including blue and killer whales, are not usually > seen in the places they are turning up in. Many whales this year have > been described as "skinny" in that they appear to be underweight. > Autopsies have shown some of the dead whales to have disease of the > heart and colon. Whales eat krill. Scientists are not sure why the > whales are turning up in the places they are seen, why they are falling > ill, why they are getting beached, why they are this year underweight. > > Species of Atlantic albatross not normally seen in UK are turning up > exhausted in Britain. > > In Europe a form of distemper that was discovered in 1998 is this year > moving through the seal population, destroying their immune systems and > hence the seals. In Canada the annual 2007 seal cull proved a > disappointment when many of the seal pups died before the season > started, due in part to lack of sea ice. > > Coral around the world are subject to a new threat. High sea > temperatures cause the coral to eject algae that are a food source to > them, causing the coral to die in a process called "bleaching". A new > threat has emerged, a type of infection called "white syndrome" is > wiping out the coral. > > "Red drift" a form of algae bloom is on the increase around the world > causing death to fish, depriving the areas they infect of oxygen and > causing "dead zones". A similar situation is going on in rivers, lakes > and ponds around the world via toxic blue-green algae. > > I wondered if something was happening to the krill, they are a common > food source for fish, birds, whales and seals. Krill feed on > phytoplankton especially in the area called the Antarctic Convergence, > that is a place where currents of different temperatures meet that > create a sort of natural border between the Antarctic and the rest of > the ocean, it is here that nutrients are made available to phytoplankton > in huge quantities, which attracts the krill in equally huge numbers, > followed by the whales, seals, fish and birds that feed on the krill. > Studies indicate that krill numbers have halved in the oceans since the > 1970's. What I am thinking is that something has happened during 2007 to > impact the krill in the Antarctic Convergence, there is no information > available on the internet to support my theory, however the movements of > the whales and squid, the underweight whales and the starving > shearwaters indicate something has gone wrong with their food sources. > > Another theory I have is something has happened with the sea currents > during 2007. I noted that the Gulf Stream is slowing according to > studies over time, but still something dramatic must be happening in > 2007 with a large number of the currents. The phytoplankton rely on the > ocean currents to drag up nutrients for them, which in turn encourages > the krill populations that feeds on them. If the ocean currents have > been affected then so will the phytoplankton and krill populations. > > I also noted another recent study that said Antartic icebergs create a > halo effect (hot spots) around them, the phytoplankton live off the > nutrients of the iceberg, the krill then swarm around the phytoplankton, > followed by the birds, fish and animals that feed on the krill. > > There is nothing reported in the media but I think that something > dramatic has happened to disrupt the ocean currents in 2007, although I > do not know what. I can only see the symptoms which I have just reported > , and the unusual weather. The so-called global warming theories explain > a gradual change in weather and the environment, but cannot explain the > dramatic events going on in the oceans in 2007. My question then, what > has dramatically disrupted the ocean currents in 2007 ? Comments welcome. > The moon? The earths core? tectonics? The magnetic field? Hydro Dams? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 10:33:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:33:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Wind turbine stirs up trouble References: <1185249509.242274.127970@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185252938.350338.47050@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185252938.350338.47050@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > Yes. People complain about noise, but really, it's pretty trivial in > most cases. There's the flickering effect, which could be annoying I > suppose if it was on your window during the day. Small beer really > though. Get an awning. > > Fran > > I have to put up awnings so the neighbor can save on his electric? His saving are my costs? Where will it fall in a high wind? On my kids,me ,my car? He can just buy 20 acres in the middle of no where, I did. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 11:28:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:28:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: The causes of Sea Level Rise References: <1185237529.245522.314590@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1185241883.621506.104230@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1185244173.904379.316320@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185245390.239094.242910@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185278843.401211.28190@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185289221.616590.97280@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185289221.616590.97280@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Jul 24, 7:07 am, Merlin wrote: > > We are so lucky that we have the usenet around, for Americans to shout > out to the world day in and day out, how absolutely fucking ignorant > and delusional they are. > > We have The Jerry Springer Show and American Idol, why do we need you? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 11:40:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:40:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Kill me with your CURE>>Re: Bioenergy Could Do More Harm Than Good References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich wrote: > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070722220325.htm > > Source: Royal Society for the Protection of Birds > Date: July 23, 2007 > More on: > Agriculture and Food, Soil Types, Nature, Endangered Plants, Wild > Animals, Botany > Bioenergy Could Do More Harm Than Good > > Science Daily — Leading environmental groups are making an urgent plea > to government not to downgrade other environmental concerns in promoting > bioenergy to help tackle climate change. > > Oil seed rape flowers (Credit: Photo by Andy Hay, Image courtesy of > Royal Society for the Protection of Birds) > > In a new report, Bioenergy in the UK, they say crops such as willow, > oil-seed rape and miscanthus (elephant grass), grown for energy > generation, could be sown over large areas of the UK, forming > monocultures that provide little sustenance for wildlife. > > It warns that without proper management, cultivation of crops for fuel, > electricity and heat could cause further declines of farmland wildlife, > damage the character of landscapes, harm historic and archaeological > sites and damage soil and water quality. > > And it calls for: > > * A UK-wide assessment of bioenergy's potential and drawbacks > * Certification of all bioenergy schemes to ensure producers prove > cuts to greenhouse gas emissions > * Planning policies that guard against unsuitable bioenergy > developments and changes in land use. > > The report, being published by 11 organisations, including the RSPB, > National Trust, the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE), Council > for British Archaeology, and The Wildlife Trusts welcomes the > opportunities bioenergy development creates and says the potential for > environmental harm from new > energy schemes can be avoided. > > The organisations believe that where farmers are paid to grow bioenergy > crops, they should be required to assess their environmental impact. > > Abi Bunker, Agriculture Policy Officer at the RSPB, said: 'This report > should serve as a wake-up call to government. Instead of jumping on the > bioenergy bandwagon and regretting the damage later, the UK should be > developing the bioenergy sector with care, avoiding damage to wildlife > and making sure that emissions really are reduced. > > 'Instead of jumping on the bioenergy bandwagon and regretting the damage > later, the UK should be developing the bioenergy sector with care' > > 'Nearly 2.5 million acres could soon be planted with crops for biofuels > and heat and power generation by 2020. That is a lot of land to > sacrifice if environmental safeguards are not put in place first.' > > Ian Woodhurst, CPRE's Farming Campaigner and Chair of Link's Farming and > Rural Development Group, said: 'It's vital that bioenergy crops deliver > the real carbon savings that they promise without damaging the character > of our landscapes and our wildlife. > > 'With the right crop, in the right place, managed in the right way we > can provide our communities with the sustainable energy supplies they > need to tackle climate change. But we need to make sure we don't end up > with an agro-fuel industry that ends up wrecking the very thing we seek > to protect.' > > Sian Atkinson, Conservation Policy Officer at the Woodland Trust, said: > 'This is a crucial time. Bioenergy offers some positive opportunities, > not just for reduction of greenhouse gases, but also to improve > biodiversity. For example, development of the wood fuel industry could > stimulate markets for low-grade timber, enabling much-needed restoration > of ancient woodland sites planted with conifers. > > 'However, there are also grave risks associated with the development of > bioenergy, and we would urge the government to address these concerns as > a matter of urgency.' > > Frances Griffith, Hon Vice-President, Council for British Archaeology, > said: 'Although bioenergy offers a good potential avenue for reducing > fossil fuel use, we must take care. Some of the establishment and > cultivation processes for energy crops cause a great deal of soil > disturbance. > > Warning of potential damage > > 'It is essential that proper advice is taken to ensure that we avoid > archaeological sites - they may have survived in the ground for > thousands of years, but they can be destroyed for ever in an afternoon.' > > Helen Meech, Senior Policy and Campaigns Officer at the National Trust, > said: 'At many of our properties, the National Trust is using > small-scale biomass for heating and hot water. It's a positive and > practical way to cut our carbon emissions. However, it is crucial that > the growth of bioenergy in the UK does not come at a high price - > serious damage to our natural and historic environment. > > 'We're particularly concerned about potential environmental damage from > intensively grown biofuel crops used for transport fuels. This report is > a timely reminder that government has a key role to play to ensure that > the growth of bioenergy in the UK is sustainable, working in partnership > with conservation organisations, farmers and land managers.' > > Note: This story has been adapted from a news release issued by Royal > Society for the Protection of Birds. *The cure is worse than the problem* I've been saying all along, that the GW nuts are in such a hurry to become True Believers in something that they'll kill us with their zealous behavior. Time and time again the solutions they want made into laws are so moronic that given a little thought you'll find they do more damage than the original problems. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 11:57:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:57:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Cold finishes off barra References: <1185243351.303854.30830@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185243840.255117.251710@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185290455.982506.43680@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185290455.982506.43680@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jul 23, 9:24 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Shush! Let's not tell this jerk, >> and see how long it takes him to >> figure out that July is Winter in >> Australia and all the Southern >> Hemisphere. I'll bet that this >> moron will post crap like this >> years. He's got so low an IQ >> that he can't rap his pea brain >> around seasonal change. > > > latitude: ~31 degrees North > altitude: ~4700 feet > > http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=6819837 > > Hail storm buries Mexican town just over the border > > July 20, 2007 05:40 PM > > These are pictures of a fierce hail storm that pounded the town of > Cananea Sonoroa, Mexico, last night. > > "I was talking with my mother this morning," writes international > viewer Ing. Héctor Manuel Germán Gardner, "and she says that in her > whole life she didn't remember something like yesterday ever happening > in Cananea, and she's almost 80 years old!!!" > > You can see, hail the size of golf balls and bigger fell upon the > town, along wth flooding rain. > > "There was a lot of damage caused by the hailstorm," writes Ing. > Gardner. "It lasted more than one hour and it was really scary. Lots > of cars got their windshields broken and many houses were flooded." > Amazing; I was born and along came a hurricane, the family moved and I was standing in the middle of the worst earthquake in America, Alaska's Good Friday in `64 then 4 ft snows in D.C. then more and more..... a tornado in Missouri, Hurricane Andrew.... The hundred years floods, Hurricane Charlie...and still I see natural calamity all around. I'm not too old and so many storms have faded into obscurity for me. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 12:03:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:03:50 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Cold finishes off barra References: <1185243351.303854.30830@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185243840.255117.251710@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185290455.982506.43680@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <2kppi.3112$P32.595@bignews5.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <2kppi.3112$P32.595@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >> "There was a lot of damage caused by the hailstorm," writes Ing. >> Gardner. "It lasted more than one hour and it was really scary. Lots >> of cars got their windshields broken and many houses were flooded." >> > > > Amazing; I was born and along came a hurricane, the family moved and I > was standing in the middle of the worst earthquake in America, Alaska's > Good Friday in `64 then 4 ft snows in D.C. then more and more..... a > tornado in Missouri, Hurricane Andrew.... The hundred years floods, > Hurricane Charlie...and still I see natural calamity all around. > > I'm not too old and so many storms have faded into obscurity for me. I can understand someone who's never seen or doesn't remember any Natural calamities, might think this Global warming theory is scary. From - Tue Jul 24 13:32:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Re: CB -Always Calls People "n****r", because he's a racist. References: <45f0414c$1_1@news.iglou.com> <45f04a55$0$5734$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <45f186ae$0$28117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46618f27$0$19491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46619663$0$9894$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4666C9CC.6E0126B@hotmMOVEail.com> <4dtd6354thr8881hu348vfgnsmedssc677@4ax.com> <469b9468$0$4664$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469EE508.E0C93D3F@hotmMOVEail.com> <46a63273$0$3160$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click@Knicklas.com wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB" > wrote: > >> "Rich Travsky" wrote in message > > >>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag > >> So? Why? > >>>> Ax him >>> That would be you... >> Yup and I's deed > > Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta > Is mocking French speech racist? How about Mocking the BRONKS sssssssssspeech? How about mocking the PROPER English that I see mocked on these PC comedies. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 13:44:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:44:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc,alt.impeach.bush,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: The National Conservative Student Conference is next week, enroll now! References: <1djyjbujxlouk$.1xdaxf27f2xvk$.dlg@40tude.net> <0S2pi.2742$Da.1022@trnddc07> In-Reply-To: <0S2pi.2742$Da.1022@trnddc07> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bîllary/2008 wrote: > "P.Henry" wrote in message > news:1djyjbujxlouk$.1xdaxf27f2xvk$.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:59:50 -0500, Mitchell Holman wrote: >> >>> The National Conservative Student Conference >>> >> In another time and place they were called the Hitler Youth. > > You're an idiot. Thanks for playing. > > He didn't mention that his kind were called something in another time... Benedict Arnold. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 13:55:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:55:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.liberalism,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.clinton,alt.atheism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Oops, Loser AWOL Bush Bounces To... 25%!!!! References: <46a61a02$0$4702$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <13acdkj4pqinja9@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cory Bhreckan wrote: > Bokonon wrote: >> "Harry Dope" wrote in message >> news:46a61a02$0$4702$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >>> Impeach for what asshole? >> >> Violations of his oath of office you fucking traitor. >> > > And violation of FISA laws. > And he's using too many CARBON OFFSETS. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 14:01:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:01:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Bush gets rectal exam and Liberals say he's bottomed below the bottom >>Re: BUSH RATINGS TUMBLE TO BOTTOM! References: <1185299491.612711.318220@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185299491.612711.318220@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mordacpreventor@hotmail.com wrote: > On Jul 24, 8:00 am, David Hartung wrote: >> Madness of King George wrote: >> >>> According to a new American Research Group poll, just 25% of Americans >>> approve of the way President Bush is handling his job as president and 71% >>> disapprove. These are record lows for the survey. >>> When it comes to Bush's handling of the economy, 23% approve and 73% >>> disapprove. But Bush has been *AT THE BOTTOM* ever since I can remember, if you listen to Liberals. I'm confused how he dropped from the BOTTOM to the BOTTOM? I need a Liberal to explain this to me, there must be a formula you have to show me. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 14:17:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:17:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming skepticism References: <1185151226.912563.15710@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185156189.253342.319070@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185267271.136134.42280@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "owl" wrote > >> The unique CO2 rise parallels the industrial revolution. The carbon >> isotopes are old carbon. The 25 gT /year of pollution has to >> disappear while a mystery source has to provide the old carbon >> addition. >> >> http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/climate-change/dn11638 > > "They therefore contain virtually no carbon-14, because this unstable carbon > isotope, formed when cosmic rays hit the atmosphere, has a half-life of > around 6000 years. So a dropping concentration of carbon-14 can be > explained by the burning of fossil fuels." > Or a change in the cosmic rays that have hit the atmosphere for the past 6000 years. or we have recycled the carbon and it's not 6000 year old once it's recycled. maybe the carbon passed through life and is transmuted to new carbon. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 14:22:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:22:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Send extra Co2 to MARS, now tell us what's extra? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In an attempt to solve the problem of Co2, if it were sent to mars, we could get it back if we made a mistake. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 15:05:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:05:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global warming has changed rainfall patterns References: <1185284747.601823.68720@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185286691.810335.185470@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185287130.182515.119500@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <46a616ed$0$25611$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185290750.012162.184260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46a61c3f$0$25605$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185292533.689360.164600@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185303654.239987.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185303654.239987.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 24, 11:58 am, Bert Hyman wrote: > >> If the 14 models are all actually different, yet somehow manage to >> produce at least similar if not identical predictions, what does that >> say about what's being modeled or about the modeling techniques? > > That they're good models. Gotta love the what-climate-change > arguments, though; > > "Fourteen models made correct predictions." > "Foureen models? That's cherry picking!" > "No, it's not". > "Well then, if fourteen models made correct predictions, 'what does > that say about what's being modeled or about the modeling > techniques'?" > > Yes, we have to hand it to the what-climate-change guys, they don't > have this embarrassing problem of models making correct predictions. > why don't they appoint these miracle programs to tell me when the next hurricane will be at my door step. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 16:23:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:23:28 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Tinfoil Hats cause Global warming>>>Re: Send extra Co2 to MARS, now tell us what's extra? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > > In an attempt to solve the problem of Co2, if it were sent to mars, we > could get it back if we made a mistake. What happened to MARS, it's full of Co2 but where's the rest of the atmosphere.... Where's our atmosphere going? Are we *Gaining* co2 or losing the rest of the gases? Is it going to be that we're left with nothing but Co2? Are we following the Martians? Was it the Sun that exhausted mars Nitrogen and Oxygen? or Fossil fuels? Tinfoil hats? cause Co2 to heat and that causes Global Warming. From - Tue Jul 24 16:30:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:30:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: The Sorry History Of Climate Models References: <46a590e6@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185308661.224954.88940@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185308661.224954.88940@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom wrote: > On Jul 24, 1:41 am, "Bonzo" wrote: >> By some startling coincidence, politically active scientists often produce >> computer models that generate results amazingly concurrent with the scientists' >> political agenda. Dr. Carl Sagan did it. In the early 80s, Sagan (who was deeply >> involved in the peace movement) produced the (Turco-Toon-Ackerman-Pollack-Sagan >> (TTAPS) model that predicted a nuclear war would raise enough dust to blot out >> the sun and bring on a "nuclear winter". Nuclear Winter! Wow! The media ran with >> it, and you still hear the phrase used today. However, the media somehow failed >> to report on critics of the TTAPS model, of which there were many. >> >> For example, Russell Seitz, Harvard Center for International Affairs, viewed the >> TTAPS model as worthless, revealing that, to achieve the results Sagan wanted, >> TTAPS had ignored factors such as the effects of day and night, clouds, rain, >> the continents, and the oceans. And George Rathjens of MIT dismissed TTAPS as, >> "... the worst example of the misrepresentation of science in my memory." >> >> -- >> >> Regards >> >> Bonzo >> >> "Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered >> by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and >> rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous >> mainstream media, which holds forth the >> proposition that it is entirely possible to >> pick up a turd by the clean end." Anon > > Let me see if I can follow your logic: > > Someone might once have been wrong about a model, therefore all models > must be wrong. > > Someone was once wrong about something therefore everyone is wrong > about everything, by analogy. > > Bonzo, try to learn to think. > > You should become a fan of Al Ghazali. He was the greatest skeptic of > all times, he used bogus thinking similar to yours to start a 900+ > year dark age in Islamic culture that is still in progress. > > But the stakes are higher this time. > Maybe phrased a bit more rational than you did.... If one model was deemed worthless, there might be others that are just as worthless, buyer beware. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 16:34:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:34:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Earth Balanced>> Humans are meaningless Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit With the ocean water rising we will have more surface area and therefore more algae to produce more oxygen and use up more Co2... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 16:47:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:47:14 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global warming has changed rainfall patterns References: <1185284747.601823.68720@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185286691.810335.185470@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185287130.182515.119500@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <46a616ed$0$25611$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185290750.012162.184260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46a61c3f$0$25605$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185292533.689360.164600@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185303654.239987.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185303654.239987.24290@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 24, 11:58 am, Bert Hyman wrote: > >> If the 14 models are all actually different, yet somehow manage to >> produce at least similar if not identical predictions, what does that >> say about what's being modeled or about the modeling techniques? > > That they're good models. Gotta love the what-climate-change > arguments, though; > > "Fourteen models made correct predictions." > "Foureen models? That's cherry picking!" > "No, it's not". > "Well then, if fourteen models made correct predictions, 'what does > that say about what's being modeled or about the modeling > techniques'?" > > Yes, we have to hand it to the what-climate-change guys, they don't > have this embarrassing problem of models making correct predictions. > They only seem to work when the answer is 100 years away and can't be proven, when I ask for a seven day forecast, they start throwing in 50% chance of this or that.... what the hell is that? There's a 50/50 chance I'll see the sun rise again.... Don't need a million dollar program to tell me that! From - Tue Jul 24 16:54:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:54:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: NEVER mentioned clouds and Global Warming in the same Movie>>>Re: Global Warming Cloud Controversies & Al Gore References: <1185298820.841282.108620@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46a664c7$0$8994$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46a664c7$0$8994$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W. D. Allen wrote: > "...Al Gore says that clouds are growing more important in scientific > studies of global warming...." > > Clouds have always been the MOST significant factor in whatever global > warming exists, not mankind! > > Can we expect Al Gore to next discover fire? > Re-discover fire? To translate that from the official language of the True Believers... He's saying he was wrong and that by admitting it in little bits and pieces, he will forgo the humiliation of being marked as the ignorant twit that made a movie and NEVER mentioned clouds and Global Warming in the same Movie. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 17:43:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:43:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: It's not Global Warming>> > It's Global Precipitation <<< Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do we fight Global precipitation? While I've heard of doing a rain dance, I've never heard of a dry dance. More polar bears will drown, they're probably going to be in Englands and Texas' Zoos. What will happen when all this Global Precipitation, gets cold during winter? Ten and twenty foot snow falls? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 18:22:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0019 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:22:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Re: CB -Always Calls People "n****r", because he's a racist. References: <45f186ae$0$28117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46618f27$0$19491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46619663$0$9894$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4666C9CC.6E0126B@hotmMOVEail.com> <4dtd6354thr8881hu348vfgnsmedssc677@4ax.com> <469b9468$0$4664$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469EE508.E0C93D3F@hotmMOVEail.com> <46a63273$0$3160$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click@Knicklas.com wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> Click@Knicklas.com wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Rich Travsky" wrote in message >>> >>>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag >>>> So? Why? >>>>>> Ax him >>>>> That would be you... >>>> Yup and I's deed >>> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta >>> >> Is mocking French speech racist? > > The French, NYorkers, and English aren't a race, > stupid > Sorry, but there's a million White kids that talk black too, so what's your point? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Tue Jul 24 18:30:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0019 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:30:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Re: CB -Always Calls People "n****r", because he's a racist. References: <45f186ae$0$28117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46618f27$0$19491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46619663$0$9894$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4666C9CC.6E0126B@hotmMOVEail.com> <4dtd6354thr8881hu348vfgnsmedssc677@4ax.com> <469b9468$0$4664$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469EE508.E0C93D3F@hotmMOVEail.com> <46a63273$0$3160$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click@Knicklas.com wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:32:11 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> Click@Knicklas.com wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:10:14 -0400, "CB" >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Rich Travsky" wrote in message >>> >>>>>>>>> And people wonder why I call you a nigger you fag >>>> So? Why? >>>>>> Ax him >>>>> That would be you... >>>> Yup and I's deed >>> Mocking Black speech is a sign of a true Racist, Barta >>> >> Is mocking French speech racist? > > The French, NYorkers, and English aren't a race, > stupid I'll imitate the whites that speak like blacks that are not French. (Nappy headed moron) -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 00:04:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:04:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Earth Balanced>> Humans are meaningless References: <46a6c731@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46a6c731@dnews.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonzo wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:Cntpi.10823$7G1.8565@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> With the ocean water rising we will have more surface area and therefore >> more algae to produce more oxygen and use up more Co2... > > Sea levels are not rising much at all, and will not rise much, if ever, for a > long, long time.. > You've been duped. > Not really, but it's OK you think so. I'm just helping the mentally ill to cope with their Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. They grab onto every disaster that shows up on the BOOB tube. If I give them hope then they feel good and that's what their life is all about. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 01:07:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 01:07:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Re: CB -Always Calls People "n****r", because he's a racist. References: <46619663$0$9894$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4666C9CC.6E0126B@hotmMOVEail.com> <4dtd6354thr8881hu348vfgnsmedssc677@4ax.com> <469b9468$0$4664$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469EE508.E0C93D3F@hotmMOVEail.com> <46a63273$0$3160$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Click@Knicklas.com wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:22:07 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > I didn't start the thread, some piss ant did, I cleaned it up and pointed out the bullshit in his racist garbage, as for what these kids write? You can buy a rap CD and enjoy... Suggestion: Let this thread die! From - Wed Jul 25 11:28:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:28:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: 1930 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul E. Lehmann wrote: > If you think things are warm now, go back to 1930 > and the drought in the 1930's. Of course this > was before the trendy AWG theory. I wonder how > the models handled this data. > > http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200608/NAT20060804c.html I believe they found that under these computer models, this was found not to be a drought, it was Global warming and the Co2 rained down so it was a Dry Rain like Dry ice, the DRY FLOODS that resulted caused dust floods that drowned farms into bankruptcy -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 14:05:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:05:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Forecasting Temperatures References: <46a58924@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185279385.191674.105070@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46a6c118@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46a6dc95@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185384213.718856.80640@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185384213.718856.80640@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil. wrote: > On Jul 25, 1:02 pm, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) wrote: >> In article <46a6d...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, boo...@optusnt.com.au says... > > > Yes Eric I've been watching it with interest, the sea-ice area is > about 2 weeks ahead of last year and the sea ice anomaly is bigger > than ever at ~-2 million sq km. > If sea ice, glaciers, polar caps are melting, the ocean temperatures must be cooler due to all the ice water that's raising the sea level, but Global Warming True Believers are saying the ocean is warming. How can the ocean be warming? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 14:18:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:18:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Where's the Heat>>Re: 1930 References: <1185377450.860474.161220@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <77idnVOi-5BY4zrbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <77idnVOi-5BY4zrbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul E. Lehmann wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: > >> On Jul 25, 5:33 am, "Paul E. Lehmann" >> wrote: >>> If you think things are warm now, go back to >>> 1930 >>> and the drought in the 1930's. Of course this >>> was before the trendy AWG theory. I wonder how >>> the models handled this data. >>> >>> > http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200608/NAT... >> Globally, (Remember, this is the >> alt.GLOBAL-warming newsgroup.), the 1930's were >> without question cooler >> than today's temperatures. Please see: >> >> > http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/Global%20Mean%20Temp.jpg >> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadCRUT3gl.jpg >> >> The data for the two graphs above are at: >> > http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt > http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt > > Well, I guess I am lucky that I am in an area not > affected by "Global Warming". I downloaded the > NOAA data that begins in 1930. I am preparing a > spreadsheet with the data for the growing seasons > of each year (April through October) and thus > far, I see no global warming trends for the rural > area I live in (Central Maryland). Of course, it > could be a different story for the winter months > but my main interest is in growing grapes and I > do not see a trend in the growing season time > interval for my specific area. I also do not see > a trend for dates for last freeze of Spring and > First freeze of fall. I am not at all convinced > about the gloom and doom forecast for agriculture > from AGW - at least in my area. Your mileage may > vary. > The Orange crops Most of the nonbearing-tree acreage planted in 1987, 1988, and 1989 was in Florida's southern and east coast growing areas, but some included replacement trees in existing groves. The 1980's were laced with killing freezes in Florida. Major freezes occurred in January 1981, 1982, 1985, and 1986. December freezes occurred in 1983, 1985, and 1989. The January 1981 and December 1983 freezes were particularly hard. From 1980 to 1986, bearing citrus acreage dropped about 229,000 acres from 597,432 in 1980 to a decade low of 367,581 in 1986 (table 1a). From 1986 to 1990, bearing orange tree acreage increased 5 percent, or 19,342 acres. New plantings to replace freeze-damaged trees and to establish new groves nearly doubled nonbearing acreage between 1980 (about 50,600 acres) and 1986 (about 99,000 acres). http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3837/is_1991_August/ai_11911340 If you listen to the Global warming crew... You should plant Orange trees. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 14:35:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:35:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming is over, contrails are back, debate ends. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> All those afraid of warming can move to northern Canada or >> Siberia, plenty of land there, and not too warm. > > I guess Canada will be an option after the NAU, but I'm not all that > sure about Siberia. > > Cheers, > > Rich > > > The Russian Gulags will soon be the Russian Riviera. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 14:54:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:54:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Watts up with that? References: <1185389300.345605.33180@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185389300.345605.33180@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Jul 24, 3:22 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >> "Rich" wrote in message >> >> news:WPmdnaCUAcRZ7jjbnZ2dnUVZ_rvinZ2d@comcast.com... >> >> >> >>> http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/2007/07/how_not_to_measure_temperatu... >>> How not to measure temperature #24 - Worst Station Ever >>> Warren Meyer, one of the first surfacestations.org volunteers, delivered >>> Tucson for us Saturday. It was discovered during an analysis of climate >>> stations around the USA on the Climate Audit blog that Tucson had the >>> greatest positive temperature trend for any USHCN station after the TOBS >>> adjustment was applied. The TOBS adjustment corrects for differences in >>> local times of observation of temperature by the observer. The picture >>> says it all: >> So where's the numerical analysis showing the station's data is faulty? > > Server13, when you went to school, did you ride in a full sized bus or > a short one? > I ran my short bus program modeling, and it matched with 14 others that predicted that he was on the short one and that he wore more excessive head gear than the others. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 17:25:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:25:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: U.S. Record Temperatures, 23 July 2007 References: <1185398311.271083.203610@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185398311.271083.203610@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aloha.kakuikanu wrote: > On Jul 25, 10:05 am, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) > wrote: >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE: >> >> BELGRADE, MT 105 101 2003 >> BISMARCK, ND 106 TIE 106 1901 >> CODY, WY 100 TIE 100 1940 >> CUT BANK, MT 100 99 2003 >> EUREKA, CA 72 68 2006 >> HAVRE, MT 106 105 2003 >> MILES CITY, MT 110 109 1980 >> MINOT, ND 103 99 1980 >> RAPID CITY AP, SD 106 105 2005 >> WORLAND, WY 104 101 1966 >> >> STATIONS SETTING (OR TIED) A NEW RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE: >> >> ALMA, GA 60 62 1966 >> AUGUSTA, GA 59 60 1966 Since 1873 >> BECKLEY, WV 53 54 1981 >> BLACKSBURG, VA 50 TIE 50 2001 >> CHARLOTTE, NC 56 TIE 56 1947 >> COLUMBIA, SC 58 61 1966 Since 1887 >> FLORENCE, SC 59 TIE 59 1966 >> GREENWOOD, MS 60 TIE 60 1988 >> HEBER RS, AZ 60 TIE 60 2003 >> JACKSON, KY 61 TIE 61 2003 >> JACKSON, TN 56 60 2006 >> JACKSONVILLE, FL 64 65 1965 >> N. LITTLE ROCK, AR 65 66 2000 >> MONROE, LA 63 TIE 63 1988 >> N. MYRTLE BEACH, SC 62 68 1950 >> SPRINGFIELD, IL 54 TIE 54 1985 >> VICKSBURG, MS 59 64 1988 >> WEST PLAINS, MO 55 58 1988 > > Enter global freezing. "Climate change", huh? > put them in a spread sheet and run a Plot of all the record highs and all the record lows since 1850 and see where the lines go. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 17:29:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:29:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,nz.general,sci.environment Subject: Re: A touch of reality References: <1185321943.811950.35270@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a701fb$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz> <46a7bca1$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz> In-Reply-To: <46a7bca1$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Enkidu wrote: > Sue Bilstein wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:58:15 +1200, Enkidu >> wrote: >>> claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> On Jul 24, 3:03 pm, "Roger Dewhurst" wrote: >>>>> M E R I D I A N M A G A Z I N E >>>>> >>>>> All in a Good Cause >>>>> By Orson Scott Card >>>> Bravo! >>>> >>>> Accolades to Orson Scott Card for getting the story right and stating >>>> it in such simple language. >>>> >>>> Accolades to Roger Dewhurst for bringing this to this forum. >>>> >>> Get a clue. Orson Scott Card is a science fiction writer. >> >> I didn't know that being a science fiction writer means that nothing >> the person says is to be taken seriously. > > > Yep. Same goes for those who post on Usenet. > > Cheers, > > Cliff > Science... science fiction, what's the difference these days? You get Al Gore who doesn't claim to be either and yet we have an entire movement based on what Al says. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 20:45:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:45:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: 500 Dead in Heat Wave in Hungary, john ferndalhmer does he daily dose of death References: <1185321166.677055.210390@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185323190.555515.125870@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185327232.532348.205060@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <_8OdnVxrJcm1MDrbnZ2dnUVZ_qOknZ2d@comcast.com> <8YednRpoQq6oezrbnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <8YednRpoQq6oezrbnZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > altheim wrote: >> "Rich" wrote: >>> altheim wrote: >>>> "Rich" wrote: >>>>> altheim wrote: >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Jul 24, 7:26 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >>>>>>>> On Jul 24, 4:52 pm, john fernbach wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >From the BBC >>>>>>>>> Last Updated: Tuesday, 24 July 2007 >>>>>>>>> Hungary heatwave kills hundreds >>>>>>>>> Budapest is having a hotter summer than last year >>>>>>>>> Up to 500 people have died in the past week from a heatwave in >>>>>>>>> Hungary, a top health official has said. >>>>>>>> That shit wouldn't be tollarated in the USA. >>>>>>>> Life is cheap in the turd-world. >>>>>>>> Living isn't. >>>>>>>> When will the euro-tards ever learn? >>>>>>>> Air-conditioning. >>>>>>>> Science is your friend. >>>>>>> The AGW'ists would rather have these people die than make air >>>>>>> conditioning affordable. >>>>>> What you denialists want are short-term remedies. Air conditioning >>>>>> is unnecessary, except to you Californian wimps. AGWers want to >>>>>> see long term and lasting solutions to heatwaves and flooding. >>>>>> >>>>> Are you sure? Seems more likely that they just hate the industrialized >>>>> west. They have no issues with an industrialized east for some reason, >>>>> even when when they emit more greenhouse gasses than the west, which >>>>> makes any claims that they are seeking "long term and lasting >>>>> solutions >>>>> to heatwaves and flooding" sound really stupid. >>>> I thought we had already 'done' China. I gave what I thought >>>> was an adequate explanation for why we don't pressure China >>>> on emissions, but let me try again: They are an emerging >>>> capitalist nation (for which they should be applauded) >>> You don't applaud western capitalist nations for some reason. >> >> Whatt? Do you suffer from Attention Deficit Syndrome? > > Huh? > >> You >> specifically brought up the issue you have with an industrialised >> east - China - and that is what I am referring to above. > > And I am referring to the fact that you treat the industrialized > east as good and the industrialized west as bad. > >> But no, I have no need to applaud western nations; they have >> embraced the virtues of capitalism for centuries, while China >> has not - at least not for many decades due to communism. > > What was China under the Manchu dynasty? > >>>> and they >>>> want to develop a strong economy and taste western style life. >>> But you guys claim that 'western style life' is destroying the >>> climate, remember? And that's why you object to anything in the >>> west that creates CO2, remember? >> >> I am not praising China for its attitude, I am merely saying that >> I understand it. > > Given your 'follow the west' fairy tales I doubt you do. > >>>> I believe they won't be stopped under any circumstances, >>>> whatever Europe says. Europe alone is not big enough >>>> but Europe and N America combined might sway their >>>> thinking. One thing IS certain, China is not going to cut >>>> back on emissions while America still wastes energy. >>> China does not care what America does, they do not now and >>> have never followed the west. If America cuts it's own >>> economic throat, China will applaud and take over everything >>> it can, under no circumstances are they gonna follow. >> >> You don't know that. > > Yes, I do. China has stated point blank many times that > *their economy comes first*, and their actions are consistent > with their claims. > >> But even if what you say is true the >> fact remains that western nations talk to each other. It is >> important to the west what America does. Once we are >> united then we can tackle China. It's a case of horse before >> cart. > > Again you assume some connection that does not exist. China > has not hooked their cart to the US's horse. > >>>> So... as I said before, we need America to take the lead. >>> We ain't leading, they ain't following. >> >> That is defeatist. Like I said - wimps. > > It's a statement of fact. > > [...] > >>>> You'll never get them to stop until you set an example. >>> Do you have some argument that makes sense? >> >> I'm beginning to suspect that any argument will be >> incomprehensible to you. > > Your argument has no legs and assumes and requires that > which is not true. > >> You have certainly demonstrated >> an amazing ability to misunderstand all that I've said so far. > > I understand your claim that China will follow the US. Can you > give me even one example of this ever happening? > > Cheers, > > Rich He can throw his money in the toilet and flush it, then I'll follow... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Wed Jul 25 21:37:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:37:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.autos.gm,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles,alt.autos,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: GM Shifts to Manual Transmissions for Global Warming References: <1184855988.920934.62570@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46a2c2f9$0$16571$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a6a38d$0$3186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46a7f54e$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46a7f54e$0$30603$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff DeWitt wrote: > Matthew T. Russotto wrote: >> In article <46a6a38d$0$3186$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, >> Jeff DeWitt wrote: >>> Matthew T. Russotto wrote: >>>> In article <46a2c2f9$0$16571$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, >>>> Jeff DeWitt wrote: >>>> >>>>> When it comes right down to it this is the early 21st century and >>>>> modern automatics are pretty damn good, and with 4 or 5 speeds and >>>>> lock up torque converters are about as economical as a stick. They >>>>> are also a lot better when dealing with towing or extreme >>>>> conditions such as snow. >>>> Snow? Having full control over when your car shifts is better in the >>>> snow than having an automatic which might shift (and break the wheels >>>> loose) when you don't want it to. >>> You can lock the transmission in gear if you need too, but it's a lot >>> easier to apply gentle amounts of power with a automatic than it is a >>> clutch... >> >> Far easier with a standard than with an automatic which can't be >> prevented from downshifting (the Hyundai mentioned upthread is unusual >> in this regard). With the automatic, you can be applying a little bit >> of power getting moving on a slick surface and it decides to >> shift and breaks you loose. > > Why would it shift if your just applying a little bit of power? > >> >>>> The clutch mechanism is far less complex than the clutch mechanisms in >>>> an automatic. >>> Yep, but those clutches last the life of the transmission, while the >>> clutch in a stick shift car tends to wear out long before the >>> transmission, especially with an unskilled driver... >> >> The AT clutches last the life of the transmission because when they >> fail, the transmission's life is over -- it's replace-or-rebuild time. > > True enough, but the automatic can take a LOT of abuse that a stick and > a clutch won't. It's tough to grind gears with an automatic and if some > doofus holds the car on a hill by giving it a bit of gas all that's > going to do is waste some gas, the same stunt with a stick (slipping the > clutch) will fry it in short order. > > Jeff DeWitt U-Joints... they take a beating in a standard trans. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 09:27:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 09:27:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: North Koreans starving to death- co2agw/corrupt big oil? References: <1185398347.743896.97590@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46A833C8.6CFF0D90@hotmail.com> <1185455196.611981.21910@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185455196.611981.21910@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Jul 25, 10:40 pm, Eeyore > wrote: >> mrbawana2u wrote: >>> North Koreans starving to death >>> July 25, 2007 >>> Associated Press >>> SEOUL, South Korea - About 430 North Koreans have died of hunger in a >>> northern region of the impoverished communist country in the past >>> month because of chronic food shortages, a South Korean aid group said >>> Wednesday. >> What do expect under their regime ? > > How big/small is their carbon footprint? > Did South Korea starve their citizens to pay for Military weapons too? It's not Global Warming it's Global Domination... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 10:22:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:22:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Governor Swill wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:03:45 -0700, Rich > wrote: > >>> also the average depth of the world ocean is >>> ~3790m, it doesn't take much of a % change in volume for sealevel to >>> rise by a foot. >> But the sun does not heat the depths, only the surface layer. > > The ocean circulates. Warm surface water flows towards the poles > where it chills, sinks and then flows back towards the equator. > > Swill Then these currents are stronger and colder from the mass of melting ice? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 14:03:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:03:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: Extreme rainfall: New study shows link to global warming References: <1185168616.360919.46410@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46a43da7$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1185169719.532409.171720@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185226097.814479.121230@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185259357.180771.105190@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46a5cee1$0$31409$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <1185345967.800675.122070@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <46a708a2$0$31417$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <1185353895.810332.113670@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185464335.043453.12560@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185464335.043453.12560@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xnichols@hotmail.com wrote: > On 26 Jul, 01:12, "fritz" wrote: > >> ...one thing that chaos theory does predict is similarity across scales. In other >> words we should expect to see similar high and low patterns in any weather parameter >> whether it is scaled over 50, 100, 500, 1000+ etc. year intervals. >> >> Scaling is something "the sky is falling" GW zealots don't seem to understand. > > What, weather follows a pattern like one giant snowflake? > I see. But global temperature records show that the 10 warmest years > recorded have all been since 1990, closely correlating with the > observed increases C02. And the increase in black top... And the increase of fires burning due to a hands off approach to National Forestry maintenance. And to the the institution of mileage improvements forced on cars and the creation of Catalytic converters. And to radio communications use. > If you're suggesting that this is really a "scaleable" pattern > generated by the chaotic behaviour of the system, you need to provide > evidence that a similar cluster has occurred in the past. If your > theory is of any use at all, you would then need to quantify its > expected recurrence rate. > You won't be able to though. > > -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 17:03:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:03:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 is not the cause of GW References: <1185399294.572932.248240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185401517.102549.125940@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46A83435.43290A10@hotmail.com> <1185474601.349645.63570@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46A90323.42F93FB9@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46A90323.42F93FB9@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Lloyd wrote: > >> Eeyore wrote: >>> kdth...@yahoo.com wrote: >>>> But the input of CO2 is not linear. Look at the actual quantities of >>>> CO2 that humans have produced, from 1850 to 1920, from 1920 to 1980, >>>> 1980 to 2000. The increases are extroidinary in all these periods, but >>>> do not match the general linear rise of 1.5ppm. This suggest that the >>>> rise may be purely natural. >>> That would of course be consistent with the traditional view that CO2 levels are >>> an indicator of warming not a cause of it. >> The traditional view? That's like saying the "traditional view" is >> that evil spirits cause disease. >> >> It's really not hard to learn some basic science. > > Warming seas (which we have) will increase atmospheric CO2. There's some good basic > science. > > Graham > > Put a heat lamp on a block of ice over a bucket of water, does the water warm? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 19:31:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:31:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: PETA cages people not dogs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When they convict this football player for abusing dogs Will he get prison time in doggy years? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 19:41:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:41:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian Subject: The Federal Courts help the Lawbreakers>> not the law abiding citizens. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If the Federal Courts won't let a town write a law about Illegal Aliens, why can the the Federal Government make Gun laws, which the Constitution does not infer upon the Federal Government? The Federallies want it both ways. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 19:44:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:44:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Insurance is Communism>>Re: Medical Reform, the Libertarian Way References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Orwell wrote: > As a Libertarian, I would love to see free-market economy medical care. > That is where free market forces are at work. Where there is fairness in > pricing as established by supply and demand. Etc. > > That can only come about with the abolishment of government interference > and the meddling by private health-care insurance, both critical to > creating the abberations in the marketplace we see. Medicine must become > cash and carry, so to speak, with the only government rule is that the same > price is charged to and accepted as full payment for like services to all > accounts. > Ban health and life insurance, then you'll see reforms... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 23:53:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:53:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4740cd97.389568139@news.giganews.com> <4741d72f.392024141@news.giganews.com> <4742dde8.393745516@news.giganews.com> <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote: > "Whata Fool" wrote in message > news:g01ja3ldklvbn35b0jqosom3tapm4tb3qs@4ax.com... >> Your statement is a killer for electrical power from space, >> obviously if the power density is half that of solar energy, then solar >> power stations on the Earth's surface would be cheaper to build and >> could provide more power sooner. > > Except for several facts: > > 1) with the microwave system, you get that power 24 hours a day, fairly > independent of the weather. > > 2) That 1/2 density is converted to electricity at about 100% effeciency. > Solar cells right now are getting about 20% in the better commercial stuff. > > So in that sense, your microwave system wins. > > On the other hand, you can also use the land under the rectenna for things > like animal grazing, etc. > > Can't do that under solar cells. > When it becomes economical, someone will try to get rich from it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Thu Jul 26 23:55:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:55:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Tom, you didn't ask a proper question yet. References: <1185490457.818156.41900@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1185496997.560391.38750@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <13aiktacq9pa70f@news.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13aiktacq9pa70f@news.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jan Pompe wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, chemist wrote: >>> Why CO2 warms the earth at different rates in different warming > > [snip] >> Fossil fools got their debate tactics from >> the tobacco lobby, who in turn got their >> tactics from creationists. One of the >> creationists often used tactics is to >> insert unproven and often false statements >> into the premises of their questions. >> > > If the strongest argument one can present is rubbish like this we know > he hasn't really got any valid arguments or explanations and it is safe > to ignore him. Certainly it is pointless bothering him with many more > questions. Yep you want to watch anyone asking questions, they're obviously part of a big oil conspiracy. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 00:10:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:10:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is the media's global-warming hysteria just a lot of hot air? References: <1185478760.605505.168990@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185498585.928069.211290@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185498585.928069.211290@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chatnoir wrote: > On Jul 26, 1:39 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >> I was paid $10,000 by Exxon to post this story here. >> > > > They sure need the propaganda since Exxon Mobil posts $10B profit on > news they "neglect infrastructure, make too little gasoline, suppress > inventories": > > http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/07/gas_prices169.html > All you have to do is make some gas and sell it, you can sell it $0.02 cheaper and steal half that $10 Billion of profit, Nothing to it. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 00:21:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:21:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > info@ecostrive.org wrote: >> Supreme Court Legislates from the bench. Again. >> >> http://www.ecostrive.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=44 >> >> ECOstrive - Well folks, be prepared to monitor your breathing. The >> U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of Massachusetts regarding the >> question on whether the EPA has to regulate carbon dioxide (CO2) >> emissions as a "pollutant" in the terms of the Clean Air Act. > > The Clean Air Act has no legitimate constitutional basis. Methane is also a "green house gas" They can use FLIR to monitor your exhaust @@@@@ http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/89/1/ The Supreme Court will be ordering the EPA to regulate *BEANS* when it's in session again. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 00:27:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:27:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: A Central Question References: <1185389394.617416.325790@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1185429169.447572.26390@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185474772.364558.56260@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1185494592.909658.89800@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185494592.909658.89800@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Jul 26, 11:32 am, Lloyd wrote: > >> Nobody claims CO2 is the only factor in the global temp, you doofus! Then WHY is that the only thing that Al Gore and company is attempting to "control"? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 12:40:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:40:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: What's really going on here References: <1185512890.563931.131140@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185536152.095117.228300@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185553307.482515.9250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185553307.482515.9250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aloha.kakuikanu wrote: > On Jul 27, 4:35 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> we can still stop the situation >> deteriorating beyond the point of no control, but only if we act fast >> to cut back on greenhouse-gas emissions. > > You were born in the wrong era. In Mayan civilization they used to > sacrifice human lives in order to get rain. > > Sure, if we cut back on emission, then no more tornadoes, flood, or > tsunamis for that matter. > "Lord of the Flies" What would happen if you put 30 ECOnuts(like astronauts, only ECOnuts are a bigger cult with lower standards)on an island? ECOnuts and children are roughly the same, emotionally. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 12:48:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:48:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.usa.republican Subject: Genocide by Fart>>Gassing the masses References: <45f01afe$0$5249$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <45f02321$0$5762$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <45f0414c$1_1@news.iglou.com> <45f04a55$0$5734$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <45f186ae$0$28117$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46618f27$0$19491$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46619663$0$9894$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <4666C9CC.6E0126B@hotmMOVEail.com> <4dtd6354thr8881hu348vfgnsmedssc677@4ax.com> <469b9468$0$4664$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <469EE508.E0C93D3F@hotmMOVEail.com> <46a63273$0$3160$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46A82008.75302850@hotmMOVEail.com> <46aa1a56$0$12216$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46aa1a56$0$12216$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> By the way, I didn't say I was going to be a vegeitarian, I said >>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> gonna >>>>>>>>>>> cut out half my meat consumption. Cow Flatulence is adding to Global warming, I'm doing my part to save us from Global warming, I'm eating those cows as fast as I can... And I open the window, then turn the air conditioner colder, What have you done to save the world today? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 14:38:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:38:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4740cd97.389568139@news.giganews.com> <4741d72f.392024141@news.giganews.com> <4742dde8.393745516@news.giganews.com> <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Swallow wrote: > Be careful when asking silly and/or incomplete questions because you get > a silly answer. > > Andrew Swallow you might get a silly answer regardless... Your not Thinking outside the box. Your sounding like a Global Warming True Believer, They have one answer for what might be a world of problems or no problem at all. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 14:58:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:58:06 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: What's really going on here References: <1185512890.563931.131140@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185536152.095117.228300@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185553307.482515.9250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > aloha.kakuikanu wrote: >> On Jul 27, 4:35 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>> we can still stop the situation >>> deteriorating beyond the point of no control, but only if we act fast >>> to cut back on greenhouse-gas emissions. >> >> You were born in the wrong era. In Mayan civilization they used to >> sacrifice human lives in order to get rain. >> >> Sure, if we cut back on emission, then no more tornadoes, flood, or >> tsunamis for that matter. >> > > "Lord of the Flies" > > What would happen if you put 30 ECOnuts(like astronauts, only ECOnuts > are a bigger cult with lower standards)on an island? > > ECOnuts and children are roughly the same, emotionally. > > This might finally be the recipe for an interesting REALITY TV SHOW. Will they kill for food and kill each other to survive? From - Fri Jul 27 16:44:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:44:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185558770.910981.35050@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Lloyd wrote: >> On Jul 26, 7:17 pm, "i...@ecostrive.org" wrote: >> >>> Supreme Court Legislates from the bench. Again. >>> >>> http://www.ecostrive.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=44 >>> >>> ECOstrive - Well folks, be prepared to monitor your breathing. The >>> U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of Massachusetts regarding the >>> question on whether the EPA has to regulate carbon dioxide (CO2) >>> emissions as a "pollutant" in the terms of the Clean Air Act. But >>> humans may be contributing more by breathing than any other source. >>> >> >> >> Idiot. Animals respiring is part of the natural carbon cycle and has >> been in equilibrium for millions of years. The added CO2 began 150 or >> so years ago, from burning fossil fuels. > > Where did the carbon originally come from in those fossil fuels? The big BANG? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 16:51:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:51:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185558812.978966.36010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Lloyd wrote: >> On Jul 26, 8:42 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >> >>> i...@ecostrive.org wrote: >>> >>>> Supreme Court Legislates from the bench. Again. >>> >>>> http://www.ecostrive.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=44 >>> >>>> ECOstrive - Well folks, be prepared to monitor your breathing. The >>>> U.S. Supreme Court ruled in favor of Massachusetts regarding the >>>> question on whether the EPA has to regulate carbon dioxide (CO2) >>>> emissions as a "pollutant" in the terms of the Clean Air Act. >>> >>> The Clean Air Act has no legitimate constitutional basis. >> >> Oh, a right-wing idiot spouts off! > > Why do you feel that childish name calling is necessary? > >> Is the income tax unconstitutional >> too? > > No. > > There is a Constitutional Amendment: > > AMENDMENT XVI > The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes... > > This is a reasonable example of how the amendment process works and > should be applied. > >> Hey, how about the Air Force -- the constitution only mentions >> army and navy! > > Ya, I don't know. > > But, back to my point, do you have anything of substance to say? They aren't supposed to have a head tax either, but in effect the income tax is a head tax since, survival in the USA without income isn't possible. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 17:00:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:00:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4741d72f.392024141@news.giganews.com> <4742dde8.393745516@news.giganews.com> <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> <476ad396.456699349@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vince wrote: > Andrew Swallow wrote: >> Rand Simberg wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 04:10:30 +0100, in a place far, far away, Andrew >>> Swallow made the phosphor on my >>> monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that: >>> >>>> Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote: >>>>> "Whata Fool" wrote in message >>>>> news:g01ja3ldklvbn35b0jqosom3tapm4tb3qs@4ax.com... >>>>>> Your statement is a killer for electrical power from >>>>>> space, >>>>>> obviously if the power density is half that of solar energy, then >>>>>> solar >>>>>> power stations on the Earth's surface would be cheaper to build and >>>>>> could provide more power sooner. >>>>> Except for several facts: >>>>> >>>>> 1) with the microwave system, you get that power 24 hours a day, >>>>> fairly independent of the weather. >>>> If you said 20 hours a day I might believe you, possibly even 22 >>>> hours but 24 hours a day would require two transmitters in space. >>> >>> How do you figure? Not that there aren't multiple satellites planned. >> >> The Earth spins round. To supply power a satellite needs an >> uninterrupted line a sight to the sun and an uninterrupted line of >> sight to the receiver. At some time during the day one or both of the >> sight lines will be blocked by the Earth. > > 1) Im not sure the rotation of the earth is critical, its the revolution > of the satellite around the earth that puts the earth between the > satillite and the sun > > 2) Are you assuming only one receiver? > > Vince Take the reflection of light from the MOON, or install reflective stations to aim some reflected/refracted light to the receiver. That's how the Russians are melting the north pole that they just attacked and captured as their own territory. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 17:09:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:09:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185563687.960807.315470@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185563687.960807.315470@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hurt_beyond_repair@yahoo.com wrote: >> Here is an organization doing some of the measurements. >> Atmospheric Radiation Measurement Program: >> >> http://www.arm.gov/ > > Yes Roger, and this is one of the more interesting highlights from > this site. And as usual, when I start making posts, the connection > between me and Google is coming under some kind of DOS attack. > Somebody obviously doesn't like the truth. Perhaps the sore losers? > > http://www.arm.gov/publications/highlights/ > http://www.arm.gov/publications/highlights/june05.pdf > > See: > "Continuous Dataset of Water Vapor Measurements Throws Water On > Assumptions of Cirrus Cloud Formation" > > Is there any data on cloudy nights and clear days. If the number has fluctuated in the last 8000 years. The sun will heat all day and then the clouds hold the heat over night... the result would be warming like a pool with a solar blanket. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 17:14:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:14:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: What's really going on here References: <1185512890.563931.131140@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185536152.095117.228300@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185553307.482515.9250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 13th monkey wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> aloha.kakuikanu wrote: >>> On Jul 27, 4:35 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> we can still stop the situation >>>> deteriorating beyond the point of no control, but only if we act fast >>>> to cut back on greenhouse-gas emissions. >>> >>> You were born in the wrong era. In Mayan civilization they used to >>> sacrifice human lives in order to get rain. >>> >>> Sure, if we cut back on emission, then no more tornadoes, flood, or >>> tsunamis for that matter. >>> >> >> "Lord of the Flies" >> >> What would happen if you put 30 ECOnuts(like astronauts, only ECOnuts >> are a bigger cult with lower standards)on an island? >> >> ECOnuts and children are roughly the same, emotionally. >> >> > > This might finally be the recipe for an interesting REALITY TV SHOW. > Will they kill for food and kill each other to survive? The standards being lower, is hoot, since NASA has Nutty deluded love triangles and flying under the influence. The ECOnuts are a real bunch huh. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 17:22:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:22:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185558770.910981.35050@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Peter Franks wrote: > > [...] > >>> Where did the carbon originally come from in those fossil fuels? >> >> The big BANG? > > I thought the big bang produced mainly hydrogen, with a smidge of > helium and lithium for flavor. > > Cheers, > > Rich Dun'no I wasn't there, but empty space was empty, didn't everything come from the Bang? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 17:39:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:39:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Subways need policing against pervs References: <1185571950.530035.36400@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185571950.530035.36400@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On the safety of alternatives to public transit -- like CARS, for > example. > > "Not as many pervert problems - you just end up dead!" > > And you emit more CO2, of course .. > > Traffic deaths should top news > > By Peter J. Woolley - Special to The Washington Post > Thursday, December 28, 2006 > > The nonstory of 2006 was also the nonstory of 2005. It is a nonstory > every year going back decades. Yet the number of people who die in car > crashes in the United States is staggering, even if it is absent from > the agenda of most public officials and largely ignored by the public. > > When all is said and done and the ball begins to drop on New Year's > Eve, 44,000 people, give or take several hundred, will have died in > auto accidents this year > > If Government wanted you to use public transportation, tey'd at least make it safe to do. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 18:47:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:47:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185547628.398851.210000@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46AA6E61.B34D910E@hotmail.com> <1185575279.873987.141340@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185575279.873987.141340@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ECOstrive wrote: > On Jul 27, 3:14 pm, Eeyore > wrote: >> ECOstrive wrote: >>> It is easy to call something a lie, without having to prove your >>> point. Any moron could do that. >> And the AGWists do. It's their standard stock-in trade, mainly because they have >> nothing else to offer. >> >> I'm not sure if I should feel insulted or proud to have once been called an Exxon >> shill. FYI I've never had any involvement with any oil compnany or even any energy >> company, although I'm actually a fan of the more intelligent 'green' methods of >> power generation like wind turbines. >> >> Graham > > Thanks Graham. :) you Can't even make another wind generator with the energy produced by one. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 18:57:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:57:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: EPA to regulate breathing? References: <1185491864.494182.269260@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <46AA6D8F.8FCFD15F@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46AA6D8F.8FCFD15F@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Server 13 wrote: > >> wrote >>> Supreme Court Legislates from the bench. Again. >>> >>> http://www.ecostrive.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=44 >>> >>> ECOstrive - Well folks, be prepared to monitor your breathing. >> lol Doesn't take long to identify this right wing lie site. The writing is >> tailored for morons. > > The left wing lies are so much more extravagant. > > Graham I'm game, tell us which Co2 in the atmosphere is from US citizens breathing and then mark it off from the "Co2 problem" that you've predicted. Then extrapolate that to polar Bear deaths and deduct them from the whole and we can see how many more bears would've survived if American ECOnuts had stopped breathing. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 20:25:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:25:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN "IN CHARGE" FOR 7 MONTHS... References: <1185574928.341223.163780@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185574928.341223.163780@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit theloneranger100@aol.com wrote: > Yup.......And they've Already Taken Congress INTO THE TOILET, with > Endless Witch-Hunts and Endless Iraq SURRENDER Proposals........There > can be NO DOUBT now that the Leftist Pukes are Simply Out To Destroy > America..........But in the Process, they're Actually Destroying The > Democrat Party..........Donchaknow.........Heehee........... Maybe the Democrat Run Congress needs to try a different approach... and run some endless useless investigations until they manage create a problem that was never there. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 20:48:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:48:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.impeach.bush,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics Subject: If Liar Hillary Quits>>>Re: Proven LIAR Gonzales needs to resign NOW References: <1185491156.341259.218000@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46a92ec3$0$8019$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <6Taqi.1603$ij7.425@bignews9.bellsouth.net> <46aa435c$0$4849$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <2atqi.7670$x72.1517@bignews1.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <2atqi.7670$x72.1517@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sid9 wrote: > Jerry Okamura wrote: >> "Sid9" wrote in message >> news:6Taqi.1603$ij7.425@bignews9.bellsouth.net... >>> Richardson-Obama in 08 wrote: >>>> "Jerry Okamura" wrote in message >>>> news:46a92ec3$0$8019$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >>>>> I don't suppose it is too much to ask, what lies you think he made, >>>>> would you? >>>> Since he's testified several times now, and contradicts himself >>>> every time he opens his mouth, it's a no-brainer that he's lied. The >>>> only question is which pieces of testimony are the truth. If >>>> ANY of them are. >>> >>> Why is he asking this question? >>> It's in the news. >>> It's in newspapers. >>> It will be on "The Daily Show" tonight >>> It will be on Letterman >>> It will be on Leno. >>> Probably on Cspan...even perhaps on their website >>> >>> >>> Why is Jerry so ill informed? >>> >> Because it may not be the truth? > > > If you see Gonzales on a double > screen telling contradictory stories > about an important event, which > one will you chose as the truth A or B? > > > Man you are the most naive person > on these pages...or a fool. Hillary Contradicted her self also, somehow she can't recall papers that were in her possession. And she can't recall huge amounts of what she was asked under oath, but amazingly she's "Qualified" to remember enough to be a president? She had Alzheimer worse than Reagan ever did. I was impressed she could remember her name. This *selective memory* disease makes her the Liars Queen. *If you see Hillary on a double screen telling contradictory stories about how she is the smartest most knowledgeable candidate or can't recall, which lie will you chose as the truth (A)She can't recall OR (B)She is the most Qualified Candidate* ????? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 21:01:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:01:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN "IN CHARGE" FOR 7 MONTHS... References: <1185574928.341223.163780@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46aa7cd5$0$3575$ae4e5890@news.nationwide.net> <1185579196.499741.281100@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <9Nvqi.53406$5j1.26556@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <9Nvqi.53406$5j1.26556@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Upgrading Nym - Back Soon wrote: > "theloneranger100@aol.com" wrote in message > news:1185579196.499741.281100@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 27, 4:18?pm, "Ron O'Neal" wrote: >>> wrote in message >>> >>> news:1185574928.341223.163780@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> Yup.......And they've Already Taken Congress INTO THE TOILET, with >>>> Endless Witch-Hunts and Endless Iraq SURRENDER Proposals........There >>>> can be NO DOUBT now that the Leftist Pukes are Simply Out To Destroy >>>> America..........But in the Process, they're Actually Destroying The >>>> Democrat Party..........Donchaknow.........Heehee........... >>> Eat your hearts out BUSH BACKERS. Democrats are STILL in the >>> MAJORITY in Congress.... Donchaknow >> And they're P-O-W-E-R-L-E-S-S...........And F-U-C-K-I-N-G U- >> P.........Heehee.......... > > So now you know why Congress is handcuffed. So a Liberal Congress is powerless, but a Conservative Congress was Responsible for the worst economy known to mankind? Liberal/Democrat hypocrisy -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 21:05:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:05:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.democrats.d,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.true-crime,alt.politics.immigration,misc.immigration.usa Subject: Re: Legal Immigrant Accused of Child Rape - Charges Dropped Because Accused Doesn't understand English!!! References: <1185418430.122339.316160@z28g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1185439031.473596.280240@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185456784.370239.65020@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1G1qi.4442$P32.188@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185584372.999555.219100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185584372.999555.219100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Jul 26, 9:52?am, "tiny dancer" wrote: >> "Red" wrote in message >> Oh come on, the republicans are continually using their position to >> legislate *their* morality on me. As apposed to Democrats legislating *their* immorality on me? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 21:20:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:20:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <473cb411.383034154@news.giganews.com> <4740cd97.389568139@news.giganews.com> <4741d72f.392024141@news.giganews.com> <7b0ja3tmjnppsafcpbfi19amflborh543i@4ax.com> <46b3806d.12077837@news.giganews.com> <3kfla3530u724msh568qn7hesrtnpu68n1@4ax.com> <1185582756.642754.174850@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185582756.642754.174850@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Einar wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:33:01 GMT, simberg.interglobal@org.trash (Rand >> Simberg) wrote: >> >> >> Of course Rand, rather than post a reference of a recent >> trial at a 1000 miles and megawatt power, you discuss unrelated >> delusions that you hold. >> >> Everybody knows who I am, my writing reveals that. :-) > > > Now, now...everibody knows that transmission of solar energy through > microwaves from orbit has never actually be done. Technically it has, Solar powered sats send microwave transmissions to earth but they get turned into DATA rather than electricity. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Fri Jul 27 23:23:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:23:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Democide: Democrats and the Awful Truth of Genocide References: <1185541464.330557.257700@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4axqi.12670$zA4.4325@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <4axqi.12670$zA4.4325@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit greycaravel@peoplepc.com wrote: > Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) was president during the time of the Armenian > Genocide. > > Peace be with you. > Gris Caravel > ===================== > > "mrbawana2u" wrote in message > news:1185541464.330557.257700@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> July 26, 2007 >> Democide: Democrats and the Awful Truth of Genocide >> By J.R. Dunn >> Since the first of the year, I've been working on a project dealing >> with the connections between liberal policies and mass mortality - the >> easily demonstrated (though somehow never mentioned) fact that, since >> at least the 1950s, liberal policies taken to their logical conclusion >> tend to create large piles of bodies in a process that might be called >> mass negligent homicide. (The technical term for this, one that I >> don't care for, is "morticide".) I'm with you on this but the "relative" policy and the Congressional status needs to be under investigation. This Democrat Congress is good at running endless and costly investigations, I propose they look into it also. Maybe they can waste millions, investigating Bush and these Democides while Darfur starves because they're beating up Bush for helping in Iraq. Why would Bush invade Darfur when he's had such a great boost from helping the Iraqis. Not simply, sudden and large but also slow and long term deaths and policy enacted and supported by the left of center - government and private bodies. Look into the ACLU and the entire Left that tries to "save" us from ourselves. Mentioning that the Left leaning inclination for gun control killed millions and the lack of backbone and the folly of other nutty ideas. The ozone, Global warming... Gaia - is the Lefts' newest Religion that will starve and cause economic based death to innocent victims. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 09:25:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:25:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> <60qla3pvb2v7o32v8fd47r5i2vkvguh8nl@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <60qla3pvb2v7o32v8fd47r5i2vkvguh8nl@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Governor Swill wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:22:57 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >>> The ocean circulates. Warm surface water flows towards the poles >>> where it chills, sinks and then flows back towards the equator. >>> >>> Swill >> Then these currents are stronger and colder from the mass of melting ice? > > Can't say for sure as I don't have the credentials, but I'd expect > that as the ice melts, the currents weaken. Consider that in a glass > of icewater, the average temp of each unit of water is higher when > there is less ice. > > Swill As temperature differential increases the convection would become.... -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 09:31:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:31:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Antarctic ozone depleted naturally, researchers say References: <1185581478.019048.288980@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185604930.002422.72990@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185604930.002422.72990@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit owl wrote: > On Jul 27, 8:11 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: > > "The finding may raise questions about the belief that chemicals made > by humans are behind the disappearance of ozone over the continent." > > Yathink? > So will we go back to the more efficient R-22 refrigerant, and save ourselves from having to produce more Coal fired energy and cause Co2 that "creates" Global Warming? Viscous cycle these, Gaia True Believers, are setting up. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 10:11:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:11:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another 'skeptic' gets tongue-tied References: <1184933680.121737.145380@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184960943.970176.72300@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185013363.082373.45100@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1185119702.620346.237650@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185215182.274206.45400@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185274731.586425.150900@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185326737.858262.55640@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46A6C75F.890032BE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1185408838.672727.292740@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185544124.821704.180190@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185589349.363056.114310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185589349.363056.114310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jul 27, 8:48 am, "Phil." wrote: > But still, science is over your head, since you are a professional in > the rhetoric of hoaky theoretical science, (which is more akin to > literature or poetry or philosophy than science or mathematics), so I > expect you to have no interest in this MOST basic principle of > thermodynamics or the fact that the hoax exhibit is DELIBERATE FRAUD > perpetrated by those that are also guilty of embezzlement of public > money according to AGW. Newton was a "scientist" all he needed was for an apple to hit him on the head, how about you? -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 10:22:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:22:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> <60qla3pvb2v7o32v8fd47r5i2vkvguh8nl@4ax.com> <1185631211.523891.258280@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185631211.523891.258280@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil. wrote: > On Jul 28, 9:25 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Governor Swill wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:22:57 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>> wrote: >>>>> The ocean circulates. Warm surface water flows towards the poles >>>>> where it chills, sinks and then flows back towards the equator. >>>>> Swill >>>> Then these currents are stronger and colder from the mass of melting ice? >>> Can't say for sure as I don't have the credentials, but I'd expect >>> that as the ice melts, the currents weaken. Consider that in a glass >>> of icewater, the average temp of each unit of water is higher when >>> there is less ice. >>> Swill >> As temperature differential increases the convection would become.... > > > But the circulation isn't driven by temperature differential..... > We all know that it's Poseiden is swimming in circles. The point was that, the temp will effect the rate in a convection circulation, so melting ice being cold water will effect a circulation. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 10:43:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:43:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Antarctic ozone depleted naturally, researchers say References: <1185581478.019048.288980@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185604930.002422.72990@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185604930.002422.72990@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit owl wrote: > On Jul 27, 8:11 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: > > "The finding may raise questions about the belief that chemicals made > by humans are behind the disappearance of ozone over the continent." > > Yathink? > Or since Ozone can be generated as with lightening, and the north and south pole being the opposite ends of the magnetosphere where we do already get ion storms that cause the "northern lights" the coincidence that the lack of Ozone in the most highly charged parts of the atmosphere is amazing. Then ad in the fact that the magnetosphere also shields us from the cosmic rays that correlate to cloud cover or the lack of it, and that cloud cover influences temperature and you see that the answer can be something other than CFC's and Co2 made by humans. Toss increasing skin cancer into the mix and the change in our protection from the sun seems a plausible answer, the shift in the magnetic north pole a few years back adds more interest to the magnetic/solar/cosmic ray theory. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. In some cases their one in the same. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 10:56:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:56:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> <60qla3pvb2v7o32v8fd47r5i2vkvguh8nl@4ax.com> <1185631211.523891.258280@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185634030.760869.120460@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185634030.760869.120460@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil. wrote: > On Jul 28, 10:22 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Phil. wrote: >>> On Jul 28, 9:25 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> Governor Swill wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 10:22:57 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> The ocean circulates. Warm surface water flows towards the poles >>>>>>> where it chills, sinks and then flows back towards the equator. >>>>>>> Swill >>>>>> Then these currents are stronger and colder from the mass of melting ice? >>>>> Can't say for sure as I don't have the credentials, but I'd expect >>>>> that as the ice melts, the currents weaken. Consider that in a glass >>>>> of icewater, the average temp of each unit of water is higher when >>>>> there is less ice. >>>>> Swill >>>> As temperature differential increases the convection would become.... >>> But the circulation isn't driven by temperature differential..... >> We all know that it's Poseiden is swimming in circles. >> The point was that, the temp will effect the rate in a convection >> circulation, so melting ice being cold water will effect a circulation. > > Melting ice is freshwater which has a lower density than saltwater so > even though it's cold does not sink and drive convection. The > circulation is a thermohaline circulation and is driven by freezing > water expelling salt and creating more salty water which is more dense > and therefore sinks, the concern is that too much freshwater will cut > off the circulation (as in Younger Dryas). > OK -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are one in the same. The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. From - Sat Jul 28 11:31:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:31:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Antarctic ozone depleted naturally, researchers say References: <1185581478.019048.288980@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185604930.002422.72990@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185631418.025951.307240@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185631418.025951.307240@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil. wrote: > On Jul 28, 2:42 am, owl wrote: >> On Jul 27, 8:11 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >> >> "The finding may raise questions about the belief that chemicals made >> by humans are behind the disappearance of ozone over the continent." >> >> Yathink? > > And about transmutation of the elements too? > Transmutation: Kervran initiated his fascination for science with the observation of the enigma of the formation of eggshell. Why did chickens -for instance- seem to peck preferentially bits of mica for their diet on a soil of granite sand? Why was there no mica left to be found in the gizzard when the chicken was prepared for dinner? How did it continue to produce eggs with calcareous shells on a calcium poor diet on a soil entirely lacking in limestone? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are one in the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 11:37:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:37:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> <46ab5a37.2295701@news.giganews.com> <1185578708.307044.248520@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185623750.927734.30090@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185623750.927734.30090@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Einar wrote: > Joe Strout wrote: >> In article <1185578708.307044.248520@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, >> Einar wrote: >> >>> Excuse me if I barge in, but is really true about all types of >>> geosynchronous orbits that the satellite in question never enters the >>> Earth?s shadow? >> Not never; they pass through the shadow for about 20 minutes twice a >> year. >> >>> Lot of people appear to be fearful about it when they hear the words >>> "microwave transmission" as after all they own microwave ovens and >>> have been tought that microwaves are dangerous. >> My Dad was a flier in WWII, he talked about staying away from the front of the airplanes, because the radar would cook you. Remember the "Amana Radar Range", now we call them microwaves. http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are one in the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 15:46:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:46:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another 'skeptic' gets tongue-tied References: <1184933680.121737.145380@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184960943.970176.72300@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185013363.082373.45100@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1185119702.620346.237650@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185215182.274206.45400@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185274731.586425.150900@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185326737.858262.55640@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46A6C75F.890032BE@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1185408838.672727.292740@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185544124.821704.180190@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185589349.363056.114310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1185645295.264492.305200@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185645295.264492.305200@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: > On Jul 28, 9:11 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kdth...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> On Jul 27, 8:48 am, "Phil." wrote: >>> But still, science is over your head, since you are a professional in >>> the rhetoric of hoaky theoretical science, (which is more akin to >>> literature or poetry or philosophy than science or mathematics), so I >>> expect you to have no interest in this MOST basic principle of >>> thermodynamics or the fact that the hoax exhibit is DELIBERATE FRAUD >>> perpetrated by those that are also guilty of embezzlement of public >>> money according to AGW. >> Newton was a "scientist" all he needed was for an apple to hit him on >> the head, how about you? >> > There are plenty of good scientists. But the conditions of theoretical > science is such that without the capability to do direct science, it > is a matter of subjective beliefs that dominate what is believed and > taught. > > In this world of 'science', the actual properties of science are lost. > Many of these supposed 'scientists' are in actuality the least > objective people in the world when it comes to objective analyses. > Because their personal rhetoric, carreers, and public funding is based > upon their status-quo beliefs, they have no capability of objective > analyses of the subjects. Therefore they dictate that they are right > and ignore any valid science as they can do collectively. > > The science of AGW is the worst scientific theory ever developed. This > is why it is so intolerant to criticism or questioning. It's intitial > premise is wrong. Therefore at every step, it has been necessary to > fudge and invent the theoretical physics and chemistry. This bullshit > has been strongarmed into academia since the late 1960's when it was > recycled from the waste bin of clasical physics. > > Even the basic thermodynamic application of 1370 / 4 = 342Wm-2, is > such return to the completely invalid classical physics that is > nauseating. Phil of PU thinks he is justified in graphing heat energy > in other terms which do not reflect the energy according to Planck. > > How dumb is this? Graph in some term of 'irradiance' which means > nothing since energy is always h times frequency. Where v = 1, lamba = > 2.99E10cm, where v = 2 lamba = 1.45E10cm. In wavelength, Planck's > constant has no viable meaning. Wiens law is that the intensity > maximum in FREQUENCY, displaces a direct proportion to temperature. > The intensity maximum is the frequency at which most energy is > transfered. This is very important in any thermodynamic situation. > > Einstein and Planck put this bullshit to rest. Of course the > theoretical academics never liked Planck or Einstein since they did > not support all the bogus theory in which they were invested and > taught. And now the modern climatologists have revived this psuedo > science and are asking to be given complete economic control by > controlling use of energy. > > In the meantime, CO2 causes absolutely no warming of the earth or > atmosphere. > > KDeatherage > Maybe all the Co2 True Believers need to take courses in critical thinking. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 16:07:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:07:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> <46ab5a37.2295701@news.giganews.com> <1185578708.307044.248520@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185623750.927734.30090@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185641485.243197.247500@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185641485.243197.247500@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Einar wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Einar wrote: >>> Joe Strout wrote: >>>> In article <1185578708.307044.248520@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, >>>> Einar wrote: >>>> >>>>> Excuse me if I barge in, but is really true about all types of >>>>> geosynchronous orbits that the satellite in question never enters the >>>>> Earth?s shadow? >>>> Not never; they pass through the shadow for about 20 minutes twice a >>>> year. >>>> >>>>> Lot of people appear to be fearful about it when they hear the words >>>>> "microwave transmission" as after all they own microwave ovens and >>>>> have been tought that microwaves are dangerous. >> My Dad was a flier in WWII, he talked about staying away from the front >> of the airplanes, because the radar would cook you. Remember the "Amana >> Radar Range", now we call them microwaves. >> >> http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >> times are one in the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - > > Not many aeroplanes carryed a radar set during WW2. Even, even post > WW2 the earlyest generation of fighter planes were not generally > carrying a radar set. > > Early radars were bulky and could not be carryed by small planes. > > Cheers, Einar > I remember that, he flew in bombers, he was a navigator/bombardier/pilot ...he talked about it only after he was retired, he trained with and flew with atomic weapons and after he died we found papers that he was with the OSS. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 16:15:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:15:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <46ab5a37.2295701@news.giganews.com> <1185578708.307044.248520@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185623750.927734.30090@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <13an492he4sln0d@corp.supernews.com> <46c893b2.82547036@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <46c893b2.82547036@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rand Simberg wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:54:49 -0700, in a place far, far away, Hop > David made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such > a way as to indicate that: > >> Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >>>>>> Lot of people appear to be fearful about it when they hear the words >>>>>> "microwave transmission" as after all they own microwave ovens and >>>>>> have been tought that microwaves are dangerous. >>>>> >>> My Dad was a flier in WWII, he talked about staying away from the front >>> of the airplanes, because the radar would cook you. Remember the "Amana >>> Radar Range", now we call them microwaves. >> I would guess the power density is a little higher than 23mW/cm^2. >> >> Did you know an hour long immersion in dihydrogen monoxide is sufficient >> to kill you? Better not drink any of that stuff, Mr. Fuck-n-Idiot. > > A woman died recently from drinking too much of it for a radio stunt. > They didn't warn her how toxic the stuff was. It should be diluted with alcohol before drinking. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 20:39:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:39:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Diversity training has failed on the "educated science types">>>>Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4740cd97.389568139@news.giganews.com> <4741d72f.392024141@news.giganews.com> <4742dde8.393745516@news.giganews.com> <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> <1185664264.714348.237730@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185664264.714348.237730@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Jul 27, 11:38 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Andrew Swallow wrote: >>> Be careful when asking silly and/or incomplete questions because you get >>> a silly answer. >>> Andrew Swallow >> you might get a silly answer regardless... Your not Thinking outside the >> box. >> >> Your sounding like a Global Warming True Believer, They have one answer >> for what might be a world of problems or no problem at all. > Look talkndog, man made aerosols are a greater effect on global scale > climate changes than previously thought, a trend clearly indicated by > the recent real data from a multitude of earth observing satellites > which is currently being utilized to refine computer models. Here is > some information for those who are interested. The First link is the > general information Global Warming from NASA's earth observatory > website. The second link is directly pertaining to people who use > lame anecdotal comparisons and spread stories of conspiracies that are > intended to reduce the validity of data, and computer models that show > how man made aerosols are effecting our weather on a global and micro > scale. The third link contains an image from the Terra satellite > showing "ship tracks" (not a significant source of pollution), and > observed effects these man made aerosol containing clouds have. > tom I'm not sure how to "reduce the validity" of data, I do know how to look for answers, and it's not by grabbing onto the first idea that comes down the pike, there's no harm done by asking questions and exploring alternative ideas. That's how they taught science and CHEM in college. If your confident and secure in your hypothesis of global warming then stick to it... I'll stick to my skepticism of the Co2, unless the DATA has more to back it. Ship tracks and clouds.... that's one idea, but then how many other things effect clouds or weather or heat? You don't have to look only for man made causes, you can expand the search to a universe of possibilities, then narrow it down from there. While most GW Believers have the cause(humans)and then try to explain how we did it. I say, confirm the data... when the consensus of data has enough confirmation that fits the hypothesis then it will be a theory and then the data can help to prove the theory. Welcome and embrace the diversity of life, people of all faiths and colors have all types of ideas and theories. We're required to sit in classes to be taught the advantages of accepting everyone. Not enough that we get classes in "diversity" that have dress codes, and still more classes in "sensitivity training" where the first words are (Profiling) that white men commit eighty percent of work place violence. Funny how diversity is OK as long as we all dress like the person defining what's diverse - wants us to. Be careful, you may just get what you wish for. If you believe in your idea enough to buy a Hybrid car and change your life style, then have at it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 20:48:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:48:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.policy,us.military.army,alt.global-warming,sci.military.naval Subject: Re: ...The Greatest Weakness of America! References: <4742dde8.393745516@news.giganews.com> <4744e098.394434056@news.giganews.com> <476ad396.456699349@news.giganews.com> <4774330e.481139562@news.giganews.com> <13alrhfp0g2a9b1@corp.supernews.com> <13anibotmg4dh8c@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13anibotmg4dh8c@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hop David wrote: > Andrew Swallow wrote: > > >>>>> I guess I shouldn't be, but I still find amazing the number of people >>>>> who will barge into a knowledgable newsgroup, with space professionals >>>>> who have studied such things for a living, some for many years, and >>>>> heard all the ignorant objections to them, and shot them down many >>>>> times, and think that no one has ever heard their objections before, >>>>> founded or not, and that their rank ignorance won't be pointed out for >>>>> what it is. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Insults mixed with appeal to authority is a risky argument. For >>>> instance this conversation is being cross posted to a naval science >>>> group. >>> >>> >>> I sure hope our naval scientists don't think our geostationery >>> communication satellites run on batteries each night. >>> >>> Hop >> >> >> They probably just fit two 40 Ah Li-ion or nickel-hydrogen >> rechargeable batteries. > > Initially I thought you were ignorant. Now I wonder if you're trying to > yank my chain. Or maybe I'm not parsing your statements right. > > For the time being I will assume your claim that geostationary > satellites run on batteries at night was made in ignorance. > > FWIW I have no credentials other than being in the top 60% of my high > school graduating class. Ordinarily I respect those with degrees, > although I've noticed even people with impressive credentials are still > capable of deliberate B.S. or accidental error. > > Do you claim to have training in naval science? > > Hop Education does not equal smart, I've seen too many educated idiots... there are no guarantees in life, you remember hearing that one, well an education is no guarantee of smart. If education makes someone smarter than the average bear, why aren't the most educated also the most wealthy? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Jul 28 20:54:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:54:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.econ,sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.planning.urban Subject: Re: Boundless Bull: Americans still don't respect LIMITS References: <1185639196.217092.35110@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185647945.679707.117570@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <3WNqi.11888$tj6.20@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3WNqi.11888$tj6.20@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Conklin wrote: > "mrbawana2u" wrote in message > news:1185647945.679707.117570@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 28, 9:13 am, Enough Already wrote: >> >> [hatred for mankind snipped] >> >> Liberals don't care about the environment. The core of >> environmentalism is a hatred for mankind. They want mass infanticide, >> zero population growth, reduced standards of living and vegetarianism. >> Most crucially, they want Americans to stop with their infernal >> deodorant use. Ann Coulter >> >> > > Cute, it I wonder how Democrats are going to win elections with the idea > that we need to eat less, avoid fruit since it has to be transported, and > wear hair shirts. > > Women can weave their shirts out of their armpit hair.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Jul 29 10:44:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:44:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Sen. Inhofe Hides From Global Warming References: <1185716392.997857.137070@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185716392.997857.137070@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Boxer sees global warming up close > sea.'' The glacier they flew over is the fastest moving one in the > world, she said. > > Boxer said she decided to organize this weekend trip to Greenland so > she and other senators could better understand the information they > have received from sources such as scientists, reports and former > Vice > President Al Gore's movie. Any time Boxer is out of our country is a great day for the nation. Sight seeing is about all she should do. She needs to go up into Space and look at the sun to see if it might be burning brighter... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Jul 29 10:53:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:53:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> <1bega3lfh6d56nmbth1sokf5mbcnqmtgdi@4ax.com> <2qadnYdgIJfizDTbnZ2dnUVZ_rHinZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Governor Swill wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:00:25 -0700, Rich > wrote: > >>> I think he's trying to say that sea water and fresh water don't both >>> expand when they freeze. >> If that's true, why is the ice at the north pole floating? > > Because ice is less dense than water. > > Swill ice is water -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Jul 29 11:04:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:03:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: When was weather consistent?>>>Re: Global warming has changed rainfall patterns References: <1185284747.601823.68720@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185286691.810335.185470@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185287130.182515.119500@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <46a616ed$0$25611$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185290750.012162.184260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46a61c3f$0$25605$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1185292533.689360.164600@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185371442.726057.85720@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185372510.451626.301860@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185382109.219471.14400@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185388553.780865.194910@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1185424544.602782.262390@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185673814.435247.135940@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1185685921.696566.21780@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1185689522.263328.242530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1185689522.263328.242530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bill wrote: >>> Can you please explain yourself here? One example of my case is >>> that both of the last 2 years, climatologists predicted unusually >>> heavy hurricane seasons, in neither case have they materialized. >> Your case above stated they hadn't made a single prediction that had >> been accurate. That's incorrect - the warming is on and has continued >> where deniers have predicted an end or turnaround. The GW predictions were for ICE AGE then WARMING then DROUGHT then FLOODS.... How could they be wrong, one has to come true... but the one constant is that nothing is constant... and it'll change again, if *you* have a weather trend that never changes, you'll impress me? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Jul 29 11:10:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:10:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (Windows/20070716) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.democrats,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global Warming WORSE than IPCC Said, (and maybe is now saying)!! References: <1185207160.378654.290420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1185208969.828405.122250@n60g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0_4pi.1845$P32.50@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1185211962.697134.294540@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1185253593.320409.253200@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <7c2dnc0SeJhWozvbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@comcast.com> <60qla3pvb2v7o32v8fd47r5i2vkvguh8nl@4ax.com> <1185631211.523891.258280@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1185641138.351902.266890@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > "owl" wrote >> On Jul 28, 10:22 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >>>>> As temperature differential increases the convection would become.... >>>> But the circulation isn't driven by temperature differential..... >>> We all know that it's Poseiden is swimming in circles. >> You may have trouble finding the 'we all' in this one? >> >>> The point was that, the temp will effect the rate in a convection >>> circulation, so melting ice being cold water will effect a circulation. >> The NASA article covered the convection influences:- >> "While previous studies have proposed winds resulting from the NAO >> have influenced the subpolar gyre's currents, this study found heat >> exchanges from the ocean to the atmosphere may be playing a bigger >> role in the weakening current. Using Topex/Poseidon sea-surface height >> data, the researchers inferred Labrador Sea water in the core of the >> gyre warmed during the 1990s. This warming reduces the contrast with >> water from warmer southern latitudes, which is part of the driving >> force for ocean circulation." >> >> The article from the Guardian added something unexpected:- >> "The researchers measured the strength of the current at a latitude of >> 25 degrees N and found that the volume of cold, deep water returning >> south had dropped by 30%. At the same time, they measured a 30% >> increase in the amount of surface water peeling off early from the >> main northward current, suggesting far less was continuing up to >> Britain and the rest of Europe. The report appears in the journal >> Nature today." >> >> On the differential thing, I'd go with a weaker convection influence >> as the Arctic warms faster and reduces the differential(s). Another >> possible influence is the increase pressure from the extra volume in >> the Arctic, and outflow from the Arctic - it could be an influence in >> the reduced volume northward noted in the second article. All the >> articles reference the large influences of winds and salinity effects >> as the northbound current flows. > > Since some years German and international doom prophets are conjuring the danger > of a mini iceage, impending Europe as a result of global warming. > In december 2005 the science magazine Nature even released an article of english > climate scientists, who asserted, that influx of warm gulfstream water to Europe > has declined by 30% since 1950 > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/11/1130_051130_ice_age.html > > This hype made a big impact > It was leading to a controversy between the chief editor of "Nature" and > the science network CCNet. > > http://www.staff.livjm.ac.uk/spsbpeis/CCNet-02-12-05.htm > > In November 2006 it becomes evidently, that the data and statements > of "Nature" were faulty. > > "Fears that a shutdown of ocean currents is about to plunge Europe > into a mini ice age receded last week. New measurements have failed > to show clear evidence that the current is weakening, and models of > the North Atlantic show that a shutdown would not occur in the way > oceanographers had expected." > > http://environment.newscientist.com/article/mg19225763.900.html > > Those facts were confirmed in March 2007 by german ocean scientists. > > "The gulf stream in north atlantic shows no trends of weakening until > now. This was proved by long-term measurements of the Leibniz-Institute > for ocean science, IFM Geomar. Other than expected, the stream measurements > at the Labrador Sea show big oscillation, but no dramatically long-term > trends indicating a decline of circulation." > > "Likely all climate models assume, that the gulfstream will diminish > in the future", Prof. Claus Boening from IFM Geomar said. > Some scientists believe to find first signs in measurement data > for that. "This is not evidenced by our long-term studies." > > http://www.zeit.de/news/artikel/2007/03/16/96109.xml > > The cancellation of climate disaster was a bitter disappointment for the > professionel doom prophets at the Potsdam-Institute of Climateresearch (PIK). > (Remember, Stephan Rahmstorf is one of them!). What to do now? > Engaging better observations or re-check data sets? > No. > Much more simple is a poll between like-minded people to reanimate the > disproved and buried catastrophe scenario. > > And this is exactly the PR strategy, the PIK has pulled out of the hat. > > > > "Scientific researches of climate scientists could lead to an important > partially breakup of the atlantic ocean circulation in this century. > This will result in a series of dramatical consequences." > This notified the PIK last friday! > > They talked about rising ocean level of about 1 meter in the north atlantic > or even a change in world wide predipitation. > The base for this statement is a "poll between leading climate scientists > of atlantic ocean dynamics", that the PIK has carried out with the > Carnegie Mellon University of Pittsburgh (USA). > The results were published in the June edition of the magazine > "Climate Change". > > http://www.co2-handel.de/article311_6034.html > > > So that's the point of climate reseearch today: > If there are no more convincing empirical facts to show, simply > make a poll between colleagues - and BINGO! - they get the result > they wished for. > > All people who were more interested in scientific findings, > instead of personal opinions of climate prophets, were > recommended to read the speech of Richard Seager, given to the > New York Academy of Sciences some days ago. > > > "A few times a year the British media of all stripes goes into a > tizzy of panic when one climate scientist or another states that > there is a possibility that the North Atlantic ocean circulation, > of which the Gulf Stream is a major part, will slow down in coming > years or even stop. Whether the scientists statements are measured > or inflammatory the media invariably warns that this will plunge > Britain and Europe into a new ice age, pictures of the icy shores > of Labrador are shown, created film of English Channel ferries > making their way through sea ice are broadcast... And so the circus > continues year after year. > > The panic is based on a long held belief of the British, other > Europeans, Americans and, indeed, much of the world's population > that the northward heat transport by the Gulf Stream is the reason > why western Europe enjoys a mild climate, much milder than, say, > that of eastern North America. This idea was actually originated > by an American military man, Matthew Fontaine Maury, in the mid > nineteenth century and has stuck since despite the absence of proof. > > We now know this is a myth, the climatological equivalent of > an urban legend..." > > http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/gs/ So the flow of rain and river water to the ocean through man made canals rather than slow flood plane dissipation isn't the cause of Global Warming? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 06 11:44:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:44:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: AGW Propaganda in a Nutshell References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > The Truth About Denial > By Sharon Begley > With Eve Conant, Sam Stein and Eleanor Clift in Washington and Matthew > Philips in New York > > Aug. 13, 2007 issue - Sen. Barbara Boxer had been chair of the Senate's > Environment Committee for less than a month when the verdict landed last > February. "Warming of the climate system is unequivocal," concluded a report > by 600 scientists from governments, academia, green groups and businesses in > 40 countries. Worse, there was now at least a 90 percent likelihood that the > release of greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuels is causing > longer droughts, more flood-causing downpours and worse heat waves, way up > from earlier studies. Those who doubt the reality of human-caused climate > change have spent decades disputing that. But Boxer figured that with "the So these Government scientist are correct on global warming, yet when it comes to allowing oil drilling and forest management, they need outside marches and Liberal groups to sue to gain the "correct" solution. Once again we see Democrat and Liberal Hypocrisy. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 06 11:49:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:49:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The Climate Prognosis affected by Weather References: <1186386570.237858.225680@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "chemist" wrote in message > news:1186386570.237858.225680@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> In January >>> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2007/pr20070104.html >> said that 2007 would be warmer than 2006 >> Their prognosis for Britain was warmer and warmer >> summers with more droughts. >> After the recent rainfall we are told to expect cool wet >> summers with more floods. >> They can't lose they've covered the major alternatives but >> they have demonstrated that not even the experts can forecast the >> weather for years in the future. >> I have heard of one who can give a forecast 9 months in advance. >> He apparently uses Sunspots and past weather patterns. >> No doubt he got the forecast correct. >> BTW based on Sunspots I forecast a cooler summer and I am >> forecasting more snow this year than last for the UK. > > No cites = unsubstantiated bullshit > > I'm using tea leaves to forecast, and I think it will be cooler to warmer this year, widely scattered Co2, with some rain. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 06 12:02:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:02:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <0po7b3h8rttf52qvrclfhstp4hrs60dmul@4ax.com> <4fg9b3tt9g0ct6c76hh92vpskhs01d887g@4ax.com> <1186264014.946188.13000@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186312784.609702.250630@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1186369345.356207.129850@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <634db3po2q16jdje7da7tovci28r25pkpa@4ax.com> <1186398437.424501.57460@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1186400855.208417.132830@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186400855.208417.132830@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Gisse wrote: > On Aug 6, 3:07 am, kdth...@yahoo.com wrote: > [...] > > What makes you think you have a direct line into what is "proper > astophysics", or "proper climatology" for that matter? > > For a guy who does roofs for a living, you sure are sure of yourself. > Roofer's know that when it's raining you can't fix the leak, and when it's sunny you don't need to fix the roof. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 06 12:39:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:39:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Climate Nazi's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hitler used Jew hating, EcoNazi's are using industrial/capitalist hating to manipulate the masses, the end result is the take over of freedoms by using the Carbon to control every aspect of our lives. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 12:38:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:38:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Climate Nazi's References: <%9Iti.6013$9p2.3762@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <2hNti.12560$ph7.2781@newsfe5-win.ntli.net> <1186439969.073241.78190@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "mrbawana2u" wrote: >> On Aug 6, 6:29 pm, "altheim" wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>> Hitler used Jew hating, EcoNazi's are using industrial/capitalist >>>> hating >>>> to manipulate the masses, the end result is the take over of freedoms >>>> by >>>> using the Carbon to control every aspect of our lives. >>> That just stinks of paranoia. Whatever your political leanings >>> may be this is not about scoring political points; it's about >>> saving humankind from the consequenses of its own foolishness. >> That just stinks of the Messianic complex. >> Liberalism is a mental disease. > > I couldn't agree more. I hate liberalism, and I fail to see how > you equate that with wanting to preserve Mans' long term > future. Business and industry doesn't need to be abolished; > it just needs to adapt. > >>> If global warming is to be halted it requires sacrifices from all >>> of us, but perhaps the greatest sacrifices must come from the >>> business and industrial sectors. This is a fact, and nothing to >>> do with EcoNazism - whatever that is. >> When the so called "sacrifices" come at the point of a government >> gun, that's EcoNazism. > > Oh! come off it - that is just more paranoia. Your government > won't pass laws that the public can't or won't adhere to, and > certainly not without a lot of debate. All it requires is a willingness > to co-operate. > Prohibition? Do you suppose that along with the ban and limitations on Carbon producing, there will also be a new Al Capone? Maybe we'll have people killing people over the control of underground markets in Carbon. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 13:07:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:07:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore, call your office! References: <1186301868.664268.7930@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186457541.620335.129530@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1pSti.3644$gn1.1471@read1.cgocable.net> In-Reply-To: <1pSti.3644$gn1.1471@read1.cgocable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Cato" wrote >> What is it about "Snow in Buenos Aires for first >> time since 1918" that you don't understand???? > > Increased variability in weather patterns is one of the fundamanetal > predictions made by the climate models. > > Unusual snowfall in the Southern Hemisphere during it's winter is exactly > what is expected. So any weather is Global warming? That means when I see "Global Warming" it's just a PC term for weather... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 13:17:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:17:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ..Sci. American article Ends Debate over Global Warming! "...more dire than even the bleak... References: <1186103206.785154.33220@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <%ewsi.2596$9p2.1511@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <65Qti.14924$zA4.1428@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > robert casey wrote: >> >>>> >>>> The US is a society based on /capitalism/ -- we generally do what is >>>> least expensive. >>>> >>>> Currently, fossil-fuel based energy is the cheapest option out there. >>> >> >>> biggest problem facing the planet. The country that solves >>> that problem should become more than embarrassingly >>> prosperous and influential, but remembered as >>> almost a godsend. >>> >> >> Now, if we could get fusion to work... > > Fusion don't work? > > Quick, somebody turn off the sun! We can barely control the weather.... how can we control a tiny sun in a box? The problem is the consensus of scientist is sure that both can be controlled.... so get off your ass and start a sun and then reduce some heat. If you guys would control the heat I could save on electric by not turning on my air conditioner. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 14:09:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:09:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Climate Nazi's References: <%9Iti.6013$9p2.3762@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <1186440073.260694.83500@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186440073.260694.83500@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 6, 12:39 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Hitler used Jew hating, EcoNazi's are using industrial/capitalist hating >> to manipulate the masses, the end result is the take over of freedoms by >> using the Carbon to control every aspect of our lives. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >> times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - > > Bird-Dog -- I'm one of these Eco folks you love to hate, although I > sure ain't no Nazi. > > But as for your point about "take over of freedoms by using the Carbon > to control every aspect of our lives" - wouldn't our lives be less > subject to control, if they weren't so damned dependent on fossil > fuels? > You will be dependent on something, that something will be carbon based won't it? > I'm not saying it would be great to go back 200 years to before the > era of Big Oil and Big Coal. In some ways it would be damned > uncomfortable. > > But if we did, we'd see most people using horses for transportation -- > not automobiles powered by fossil fuels. So no government would be > able to "control people's lives" in the transportation area by > controlling the Carbon. Commonality of use allows more general control, How will you feed your horse, will you cut trees to release Co2 to the atmosphere? Methane is a "greenhouse gas" will your horse produce methane... People die and get paralyzed on horse back... will you also have seat belt laws and child seats? If government, big oil and coal want to control your life they will find a way, and you'll be the one helping them. Going backwards-> > > We'd also see most long-distance shipping occurring in wind-powered > sailing ships, not in big metal vessels powered by fuel oil. > Are sailing ships more efficient in every case? Time and energy are part of an equation to determining actual efficiency. The food to feed a long voyage might be more carbon intensive than the fuel used to do the same trip. > QED: No national government or "one world socialist" government would > be able to control the world shipping industry by controlling the > Carbon. They'd have to control the winds to do that. The wind has carbon in it.... > > We'd probably see most factories, outside of Great Britain, being > powered by water wheels rather than by coal-fired steam engines, or by > oil-fired generators. Meaning that governments couldn't control the > factories by controlling Carbon fuels -- they'd have to control the > rivers instead. > They already do control the rivers... Just take a boat ride and see who stops you. Try to Damn a creek on your farm. Build a cow pond or drain a low piece of property. > Home heating and cooling -- people would rely mostly on chopped wood, > i.e. "biomass," rather than fossil carbon to heat their homes in > winter. In summer, they'd try to keep cool by having high ceilings to > their houses, and big screened-in verandahs where they could afford > them. They'd plant shrubs and trees close to their houses for shade, > instead of relying on electric-powered air conditioners. > We've been there and done that... So move backwards not ahead? > And this might not be so comfortable, some of the time. But again, no > government could control how its people were heating and cooling their > houses by "controlling the Carbon," because the ordinary person > wouldn't be dependent on the Carbon -- not the fossil kind. > They control Bar-B -Q 's in your back yards in some places. Sure they can. They'll TAX~ Solar cells and wind generators and force permits for both, they'll use permits impact fees and regulations under the guise of Safety and growth management. Do you actually believe that Government will not control what you do? > When you defend the fossil fuel industry against people who criticize > it, then, in hopes of keeping evil "Eco-Nazis" from controlling > people's lives through the control of Carbon fuels -- aren't you > trying to preserve an industry that makes it pretty easy for > governments to control people's lives through the control of Carbon? > Eco Nazis are trying to use government to control people, in any event government will control us, it's just who uses what to do it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 14:32:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:32:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ..Sci. American article Ends Debate over Global Warming! "...more dire than even the bleak... References: <1186103206.785154.33220@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <%ewsi.2596$9p2.1511@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <65Qti.14924$zA4.1428@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <13bhd2ka1ksfb98@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13bhd2ka1ksfb98@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jo Schaper wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > > >> We can barely control the weather.... > > ???????????????????????? We're stopping Global warming, they're trying to pass write and pass laws as we speak. This is proof of weather control ability. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 14:41:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:41:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Global Extreme->>Re: Al Gore, call your office! References: <1186301868.664268.7930@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186457541.620335.129530@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1pSti.3644$gn1.1471@read1.cgocable.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> So any weather is Global warming? That means when I see "Global Warming" >> it's just a PC term for weather... > > Simple minds can often not grasp even simple concepts. > > Weather is what is happening now above your dogigie head. > > Climate is what is happening on average over the next few years over the > entire surface of the earth. > > > How do extremes in weather equal Global warming, didn't we have extremes before people? Hasn't extreme weather always been here, every year we see a new high or low/temp or rain. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 19:01:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:01:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Climate Nazi's References: <%9Iti.6013$9p2.3762@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <2hNti.12560$ph7.2781@newsfe5-win.ntli.net> <1186439969.073241.78190@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> "mrbawana2u" wrote: >>>> On Aug 6, 6:29 pm, "altheim" wrote: >>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>>>> Hitler used Jew hating, EcoNazi's are using industrial/capitalist >>>>>> hating >>>>>> to manipulate the masses, the end result is the take over of freedoms >>>>>> by >>>>>> using the Carbon to control every aspect of our lives. >>>>> That just stinks of paranoia. Whatever your political leanings >>>>> may be this is not about scoring political points; it's about >>>>> saving humankind from the consequenses of its own foolishness. >>>> That just stinks of the Messianic complex. >>>> Liberalism is a mental disease. >>> I couldn't agree more. I hate liberalism, and I fail to see how >>> you equate that with wanting to preserve Mans' long term >>> future. Business and industry doesn't need to be abolished; >>> it just needs to adapt. >>> >>>>> If global warming is to be halted it requires sacrifices from all >>>>> of us, but perhaps the greatest sacrifices must come from the >>>>> business and industrial sectors. This is a fact, and nothing to >>>>> do with EcoNazism - whatever that is. >>>> When the so called "sacrifices" come at the point of a government >>>> gun, that's EcoNazism. >>> Oh! come off it - that is just more paranoia. Your government >>> won't pass laws that the public can't or won't adhere to, and >>> certainly not without a lot of debate. All it requires is a willingness >>> to co-operate. >>> >> Prohibition? >> >> Do you suppose that along with the ban and limitations on Carbon >> producing, there will also be a new Al Capone? Maybe we'll have people >> killing people over the control of underground markets in Carbon. > > When was that - 1930s? Jeez! you're reaching back into > history even further than I can remember. Times have > changed but in those days even we had drink laws that > seem draconian by today's standards. > > Anyway, even with America's lax gun laws they didn't shoot > people for drinking. > People shoot people over money. Carbon offsets = $Money Drugs = $MONEY -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 19:14:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:13:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Climate Nazi's References: <%9Iti.6013$9p2.3762@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <2hNti.12560$ph7.2781@newsfe5-win.ntli.net> <1186439969.073241.78190@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1186495408.471047.285070@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "mrbawana2u" wrote: >> On Aug 7, 6:14 am, "altheim" wrote: >>> "mrbawana2u" wrote: >>>> On Aug 6, 6:29 pm, "altheim" wrote: > [...] >>>>> If global warming is to be halted it requires sacrifices from all >>>>> of us, but perhaps the greatest sacrifices must come from the >>>>> business and industrial sectors. This is a fact, and nothing to >>>>> do with EcoNazism - whatever that is. >>>> When the so called "sacrifices" come at the point of a government >>>> gun, that's EcoNazism. >>> Oh! come off it - that is just more paranoia. >> Ah yes, you DO love you government... > > Not particularly, but it's there and it serves a useful purpose. > What would your life be like if there was no government? > >>> Your government >>> won't pass laws that the public can't or won't adhere to, >> kiss, kiss, hug, hug... > > Yeah I know - you're a wannabe anarchist but even anarchists > eventually form themselves into communes and end up with > a government. > >>> and certainly not without a lot of debate. >> assume the position >> >>> All it requires is a willingness to co-operate. >> Then NOTHING will be done. Good. > > Ever heard the old saying: All it takes for the triumph of > evil is for good men to do nothing. > Ever hear that you can't fix what ain't broke. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 19:40:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:40:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The wheels on the wagon are coming off, coming off, coming off References: <1186510161.813898.36400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46B8D47B.222D31DB@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46B8D47B.222D31DB@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > matt_sykes wrote: > >> I give it 2 more years max. When 2010 turns out to be nothing >> special and we have had 11 years of no apprecieable temperature rise, >> and as other science comes in, and, when the media smell a rat >> (because so far the media have been the darlings of the AGW camp, but >> give them a sniff of an 'anti-story' from the other angle, and they >> will turn quicker than a pack of dobermans in a saussage factory), >> science is going to be dragged through the mud, any AGW supporters wil >> become a joke whose names will be worthless and whose careers will be >> finished, and will be reduced to shouting in the street like mad men >> because no one will give them a forumn, and all the middle ground is >> going to come out saying 'well, of course I never really believed it' >> like the bunch of weak arse lickers they are! >> >> Its going to be a blood bath! Its gonna be great! > > I suspect you're right. The real casualty is going to be science. If it hadn't > been damaged enough by dumbing down it'll now be horribly tainted. > > Graham > > It's been happening for years... Psycho babble kited as science and more and more.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 19:59:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:59:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming! References: <1186163257.600711.79210@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186513940.861725.159090@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4761c543.947264604@news.giganews.com> <1186515660.567680.200310@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rand Simberg wrote: > On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 12:41:00 -0700, in a place far, far away, Lloyd > made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a way > as to indicate that: > >>>> Excuse me, Cato is confusing the issue. What he means when he is using >>>> the word socialism is the word Marxism. But it was Karl Marx who >>>> advocated state control, the eventual dissolution of private property, >>>> etc. Socialism actually does none of those things. >>> Socialistic policies tend to control private property to such a degree >>> that the notion of "owning" it becomes functionally meaningless. >> So there is no private property in France, Britain, etc? > > I didn't say that. Learn to read. > >> Or perhaps your idea of private property is you can do anything you >> want with it, without concern as it how it affects others? > > My idea of private property is that if the government tells me how > much I can charge for its use (e.g., rent controls, anti-scalping > laws), then it's no longer really my property. I'm just managing it > for the government, sometimes at a loss. your taking all the risk for the Government too... you get sued not them... you lose money not them... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 07 20:05:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:05:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Population and CO2 References: <1186419753.183240.278010@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186432658.334894.45440@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186440986.794955.282980@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186444300.987219.52140@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <0gufb3t3id61e7h2qtfo671ikqjpb08qre@4ax.com> <35WdnfbVVu-iVirbnZ2dnUVZ_tSknZ2d@adelphia.com> <5ajhb3ljg3qeb682e5lobfvi9t6mgisbum@4ax.com> <1186516995.662692.115060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186516995.662692.115060@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Aug 7, 1:10 pm, Whata Fool wrote:"there is a lot > more to climate and >> weather than CO2 and trees, it isn't population, it is the way cities buildings and pavement is made dry and dark color." > > becarefule as you ar adding more variables for your hand calculations, > since you dont like anybody elses models, or climate models in > general. > > your starting to confuse the issue by using facts... Are you working for the BIG oil companies too? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 12:06:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:06:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global-Warming Deniers: A Well-Funded Machine References: <0oggb3l45k9krdhoociq54pu55a6abk27q@4ax.com> <5hqvebF3lda9fU1@mid.individual.net> <1i2hcyk.i2tjn1oyq7k4N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1186543489.994562.96280@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mitchell Holman wrote: > mrbawana2u wrote in news:1186543489.994562.96280 > @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com: > >> On Aug 7, 6:16 pm, nob...@nowheres.com (the_blogologist) wrote: >>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>> the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. Scientists >>>> know for certain that human activities are changing the composition >>>> of Earth's atmosphere. Increasing levels of greenhouse gases, like >>>> carbon dioxide (CO2 ), in the atmosphere since pre-industrial times... >>> All the CO2 we're putting into the atmosphere used to be in the >>> atmosphere. It's not a pollutant, it's an essential building block of >>> life. CO2 is a benificial byproduct of burning oil and coal. >> The enviro-nazis went through hell and high water to mandate catalytic >> converters, >> which, as everybody knows, turns harmful exhausts into harmless co2. > > > > Ah, for the spring ritual of conservatives complaining > that their air is too clean, their water too pure, too many > species sharing their planet, too many trees blocking their > view of sprawling subdivions and paved over meadows. OK .... try to feed the world with the EcoNazi's plans.... you want to ban what makes it possible for you to fill your fridge, the fridge which you also try to eliminate as economically useful for most of the world. How many people are you willing to starve so your yard and park is pristine... Is there a happy medium? Maybe you can ban plastic and only a few million will die of spoiled foods. Ban Co2 and how many will feel the shortage of food so Al Gore can Fly? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 12:12:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:12:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The wheels on the wagon are coming off, coming off, coming off References: <1186510161.813898.36400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46B8D47B.222D31DB@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> Eeyore wrote: >>> matt_sykes wrote: >>> >>>> I give it 2 more years max. When 2010 turns out to be nothing >>>> special and we have had 11 years of no apprecieable temperature rise, >>>> and as other science comes in, and, when the media smell a rat >>>> (because so far the media have been the darlings of the AGW camp, but >>>> give them a sniff of an 'anti-story' from the other angle, and they >>>> will turn quicker than a pack of dobermans in a saussage factory), >>>> science is going to be dragged through the mud, any AGW supporters wil >>>> become a joke whose names will be worthless and whose careers will be >>>> finished, and will be reduced to shouting in the street like mad men >>>> because no one will give them a forumn, and all the middle ground is >>>> going to come out saying 'well, of course I never really believed it' >>>> like the bunch of weak arse lickers they are! >>>> >>>> Its going to be a blood bath! Its gonna be great! >>> I suspect you're right. The real casualty is going to be science. If it >>> hadn't >>> been damaged enough by dumbing down it'll now be horribly tainted. >>> >> It's been happening for years... Psycho babble kited as science and more >> and more.... > > Oh! just listen to you three. You're giggling like a bunch of silly > teenagers all excited over the prospect of a debacle. If it turns > out that the global warming trend halts or reverses then it will > be readily acknowledged by responsible scientists. It will not > mean that there never was such a trend. > > So do please grow up. > Sorry, I lost my head for a moment... Your right their efforts will do amazing things and the world will be saved by The EcoWarriors who limp wrist-edly reset their thermostats and drive their cute little Hybrids. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 12:14:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:14:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Population and CO2 References: <1186419753.183240.278010@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <7qidnYbSWI5qOCTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <7qidnYbSWI5qOCTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul E. Lehmann wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: > >> On Aug 5, 11:49 am, "Paul E. Lehmann" >> wrote: >>> This would be an interesting exercise for some >>> one. >>> >>> How is the increase in World Population >>> increasing CO2 in a direct way by respiration? >>> >> Hello Paul: >> >> The CO2 exhaled by humans and other animals >> comes from food plants we eat, they in their >> turn >> photosynthesize that CO2 back into food. You >> are not, therefore, not adding any Carbon to >> the planetary Carbon cycle when you exhale >> you are just playing your part in that cycle. >> The CO2 added by burning fossil fuels lay >> underground for geologic time periods before it >> went into the atmosphere. About half of this >> fossil fuel CO2 is too much for our planet's >> Carbon cycle to handle. It is accumulating in >> the atmosphere. > > Roger, a CO2 neutral scenario in regards to plants > only applies to areas that have temperatures > above 25 degrees Celsius such as the tropics. So methane coming from beans...? > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 12:22:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:22:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How Can We Avert Dangerous Climate Change? References: <1fHti.14540$6z6.9286@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net> <46B74D09.A534B650@hotmail.com> <1186420896.969063.283070@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46B7679A.2F00E722@hotmail.com> <8phfb3l8qur8av7oggmpbjvqdtqlk0goek@4ax.com> <46B8069B.C53FD62C@hotmail.com> <46B849BE.946F5719@hotmail.com> <46B9770B.803588A5@hotmail.com> <91uib3p8botdkc2pnol7b2nclopros318f@4ax.com> <46B986A8.138DF68D@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46B986A8.138DF68D@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > >> I think the scientists are the folks to listen to. > > The IPCC aren't scientists. > > Graham > we didn't elect them either -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 12:40:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:40:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Exposing the Hoax References: <1186500034.807680.62750@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46B89346.C69B5158@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "altheim" wrote >> The report is worthless. > > In summary the report says that "temperature doesn't exist because the > world is a complex place". The world is a complex place, so is the room > around me. This doesn't prevent my thermometer from telling me that it is > 24'C in this room. > > What a bunch of Denialist Losers....... > > the temp in my freezer is different from your room did you average my freezer into your Global room temp? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 17:43:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:43:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Space Nuts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I notice that NASA can't predict the weather well enough to set an absolute date for launch. Just days and hours before launch they still have to check weather before giving a go. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 18:16:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:16:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.energy Subject: Re: How Can We Avert Dangerous Climate Change? References: <1185866963.651394.175090@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1185920620.605501.263580@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1186599439.631348.154820@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186599439.631348.154820@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit z wrote: > On Jul 31, 8:32 pm, Bill Ward wrote: > >> Then it doesn't count. You must suffer for your sins to gain salvation > > Well then, won't you be happy when the rest of the world is running on > solar cells designed and built in the Far East, and wind generators > designed and built in Europe, and the US is still trying to peddle 14 > MPG trucksters to the rest of the world. > Under capitalism we don't force companies to make hybrids to please you. If the consumers are clamoring for solar and wind, then the other countries will have to compete with the USA for the business. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 19:05:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:05:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Coersive population control References: <46b996c4@212.67.96.135> <1186603957.623133.114120@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186603957.623133.114120@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit owl wrote: > On Aug 8, 5:24 am, "DESMODUS-NEWS" wrote: >> Coersive population control measures will have to be imposed immediately in >> order to save the planetry eco-sphere reprt claims -desmodus > > You volunteering for the pilotless project? > retrocative abortion? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 19:22:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:22:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: AGW Funding Vs Skeptic Funding References: <46b95bf5@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1186597439.805899.92510@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 11:23:59 -0700, owl wrote: > >> On Aug 8, 10:22 am, "Server 13" wrote: >>> "Bonzo" wrote in message >>> >>> news:46b95bf5@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >>> >>> >>> >>>> http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&Cont... >>>> Newsweek reporter Eve Conant was given the documentation showing that >>>> proponents >>>> of man-made global warming have been funded to the tune of $50 BILLION >>>> in the >>>> last decade or so, while skeptics have received a paltry $19 MILLION >>>> by comparison. >>> Probably because the denialists are outnumbered by that ratio, and >>> have >>> nothing worth funding. lol >> Out of that $50billion, how much is going to smear the denialists? I >> don't have the number ... but it's clearly not enough. > > A telling comment. I think your smear tactics have backfired. > if only facts worked. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 19:46:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:46:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.radio.talk.dr-laura,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics,alt.military,alt.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: BIO-FUELS CAUSING BEEF SHORTAGE IN NUEVA YORK!! References: <1186611485.047431.242780@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bush's KGB wrote: > "theloneranger100@aol.com" wrote in message > news:1186611485.047431.242780@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com... >> Yup........Ethanol Production is Eating Into the Food >> > > Guess we'll have to drill in Flarduh, afterall. Florida took the challenge and has three nukes. They already make excess energy and sell it north to the other states. They also are number two or three in cattle production.... I don't care if a steak costs $150 in NY. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 19:49:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:49:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns Subject: Re: Burglar shot by 93-year-old victim Wednesday References: <9MGdnbdndsYbKi7bnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com> <4TQsi.1981$Lg2.746@bignews9.bellsouth.net> <1186195197.514004.25270@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186268397.683904.258190@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <4POdnaj267-OwCvbnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@comcast.com> <2cidnSUHAsgIpCrbnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com> <7oadnYf9CYVgbSTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt Malley wrote: > RD (The Sandman) wrote: > >> "robw" wrote in >> news:7oadnYf9CYVgbSTbnZ2dnUVZ_jGdnZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> I've worked with a woman's rape crisis center in Philly. >> >> >> Okay....... > > > Did ROBW have contact with the police and demand that all men have their > penis's registered? Assault with a friendly weapon? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 19:59:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:59:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.usa,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global-Warming Deniers: A Well-Funded Machine References: <0oggb3l45k9krdhoociq54pu55a6abk27q@4ax.com> <5hqvebF3lda9fU1@mid.individual.net> <1i2hcyk.i2tjn1oyq7k4N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1186543489.994562.96280@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mitchell Holman wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote in news:hSlui.7095$2v5.3141 > @bignews2.bellsouth.net: > >> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>> mrbawana2u wrote in news:1186543489.994562.96280 >>> @k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com: >>> >>>> On Aug 7, 6:16 pm, nob...@nowheres.com (the_blogologist) wrote: >>>>> Mitchell Holman wrote: >>>>>> the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. Scientists >>>>>> know for certain that human activities are changing the composition >>>>>> of Earth's atmosphere. Increasing levels of greenhouse gases, like >>>>>> carbon dioxide (CO2 ), in the atmosphere since pre-industrial > times... >>>>> All the CO2 we're putting into the atmosphere used to be in the >>>>> atmosphere. It's not a pollutant, it's an essential building block of >>>>> life. CO2 is a benificial byproduct of burning oil and coal. >>>> The enviro-nazis went through hell and high water to mandate catalytic >>>> converters, >>>> which, as everybody knows, turns harmful exhausts into harmless co2. >>> >>> >>> Ah, for the spring ritual of conservatives complaining >>> that their air is too clean, their water too pure, too many >>> species sharing their planet, too many trees blocking their >>> view of sprawling subdivions and paved over meadows. >> >> OK .... try to feed the world with the EcoNazi's plans.... you want to >> ban what makes it possible for you to fill your fridge, the fridge which >> you also try to eliminate as economically useful for most of the world. >> >> How many people are you willing to starve so your yard and park is >> pristine... Is there a happy medium? Maybe you can ban plastic and only >> a few million will die of spoiled foods. Ban Co2 and how many will feel >> the shortage of food so Al Gore can Fly? >> > > > Is your water too clean? Is your air too pure? > > Blame a liberal. Actually the well water was nasty, but the realistic denialist that used Co2 producing machines and Ozone processing and chlorine, have solved the problems. Liberals would be fine with me having to drink that nasty water. Thanks Libs for trying to stifle the distribution of Bottled water too... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 20:07:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:07:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.republicans,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global-Warming Deniers: A Well-Funded Machine References: <0oggb3l45k9krdhoociq54pu55a6abk27q@4ax.com> <1186617452.213357.107930@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186617452.213357.107930@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit neoconis_ignoramus wrote: > On Aug 7, 1:04 pm, "Albert D. Kallal" > wrote: >> The funding of private research into this issue is VERY small... >> >> As for the government? In the usa..it now excess that of cancer >> research..and is in excess of 4 billion... >> >> This sis a huge huge industry. >> >> The connection between bureaucracy, funding, and fraud on the IPPC and >> science community is explained in the following short video: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2J-zHo-ILw >> >> The above short clip also includes some comments by the co-founder of green >> peace, and he also explains how the global warming movement is a socialist >> and political movement...not a science one.... >> >> -- >> Albert D. Kallal >> Edmonton, Alberta Canada >> pleaseNOOSpamKal...@msn.com > > Yeah, all those "scientists" over at the IPCC, the NOAA, and National > Academy of Sciences aren't scientists at all, they're just birkenstock- > wearing hippies with an agenda. > > Can't you stupid fucking cons do better than this? > You noticed that too? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:21:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:21:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal,aus.general Subject: Re: Ha! Ha! References: <46b964a7$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1186599101.882348.9790@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186616778.342973.176730@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:46:18 -0700, Roger Coppock wrote: > >> On Aug 8, 4:23 pm, Bill Ward wrote: [ . . >> . ] >>> I think they make more sense than you do, Roger. You better hope people >>> don't read it. >> Like most denialist propaganda, >> they won't read it unless it has >> pictures of naked women, or it >> is published in a 'newspaper' >> from some hick-town where there's >> nothing else to read. > > You have a lower opinion of people than I do. > So what's your points? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:27:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:27:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: The wheels on the wagon are coming off, coming off, coming off References: <1186510161.813898.36400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1186513170.587026.57420@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46b93a62$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1186545987.037441.327630@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Bill Ward" wrote >> Record cold doesn't count? > > Doesn't count for what? Evidence of ongoing climate change? Yup it > counts for that. > > Are you implying that it serves as evidence that there is no warming? > Ahahahahaha.... Direct temperature measurment of the earth's surface both > from thermometers and satellite kill that idea as all methods of observation > show a history of continual warming over the last 100 years or so. > Which weather doesn't indicate Global warming, will Global Cooling indicate Global Warming? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:31:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:31:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Exposing the Hoax References: <1186500034.807680.62750@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46B89346.C69B5158@hotmail.com> <46B9F740.2C04EFBA@hotmail.com> <46BA6A75.C856A494@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46BA6A75.C856A494@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eeyore wrote: > > ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > >> Why do you still keep that cucumber up your ass? > > A classic example of the quality of the IPCC case for AGW. > > Graham > > I took a poll and found a consensus that cucumbers inserted in such a manner, cause Global Warming. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:43:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:43:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming! References: <3j03b39pc3ksv4ti0cp0oke3i1nqgt1cpg@4ax.com> <1186086876.841955.45250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186163257.600711.79210@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186515554.467802.187930@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <8f7ib3551ia9bnbuoku4i4brjp5d9ajvmu@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Whata Fool" wrote >> Actually, the Third Reich was almost what your utopia >> should be like, for a period of time (prior to 1942), the majority of >> the people were solidly behind their "leader", the huge crowds were >> emotionally involved (whether it was propaganda or brainwashing that >> caused it is not important). > > Sounds like a Libertairan paradise to me. > > Do everyone a favor and look up Libertarian and Liberal, then try again. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:48:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:48:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Global warming burst Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gama ray burst caused Global warming. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 08 23:51:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:51:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like "gun control" and Global Warming! References: <3j03b39pc3ksv4ti0cp0oke3i1nqgt1cpg@4ax.com> <1186086876.841955.45250@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186163257.600711.79210@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186513940.861725.159090@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <%5wui.61573$KV1.61283@read2.cgocable.net> In-Reply-To: <%5wui.61573$KV1.61283@read2.cgocable.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Whata Fool" wrote >> I have only read a little Marx once, and by coincidence I >> found a union bylaws book in some stuff from an estate sale, and there >> was no difference that I could see, both asserted that workers should >> have an hour for lunch and all the other things that a union would have >> been for in that era. > > Wow, an hour for lunch. What's next for those fucking socialists? An 8 > hour day, a living wage and weekends off. > > Fucking commies. > > > Sitting on their collective asses and demanding to get paid for producing nothing? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 09 11:20:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:19:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: property rights>>Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like References: <1186163257.600711.79210@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186513940.861725.159090@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4761c543.947264604@news.giganews.com> <1186515660.567680.200310@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Rand Simberg" wrote >> My idea of private property is that if the government tells me how >> much I can charge for its use (e.g., rent controls, anti-scalping >> laws), then it's no longer really my property. > > Well that's fine because it really isn't your property. You just have > temporary posession of it. And so we see the socialist liberal true idea of ownership. Your car is but a temporary thing owned by the village, and loaned to you... your Underwear are the same.... the gold in your teeth... these EcoElitist are sure that everything you own belongs to the socialist government and you barrow it from the government until you die and then, the tax is supposed to take it back and redistribute it as the socialist government sees fit(Their Gaia- Circle of life religion), not as you had intended be done via your personal property rights... Science will Save you, just give up some Constitutional rights. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 09 13:47:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:47:36 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: property rights>>Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like References: <1186163257.600711.79210@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186513940.861725.159090@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4761c543.947264604@news.giganews.com> <1186515660.567680.200310@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "Rand Simberg" wrote >> My idea of private property is that if the government tells me how >> much I can charge for its use (e.g., rent controls, anti-scalping >> laws), then it's no longer really my property. > > Well that's fine because it really isn't your property. You just have > temporary posession of it. And so we see the socialist liberal true idea of ownership. Your car is but a temporary thing owned by the village, and loaned to you... your Underwear are the same.... the gold in your teeth... these EcoElitist are sure that everything you own belongs to the socialist government and you barrow it from the government until you die and then, the tax is supposed to take it back and redistribute it as the socialist government sees fit(Their Gaia- Circle of life religion), not as you had intended be done via your personal property rights... Science will Save you, just give up some Constitutional rights. From - Thu Aug 09 14:01:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:01:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: property rights>>Re: Science out the window when it comes to political issues like References: <1186420554.391889.41940@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186471903.017427.291570@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <1186513940.861725.159090@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4761c543.947264604@news.giganews.com> <1186515660.567680.200310@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> <_qIui.10270$Ug2.4202@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <477a547e.1115003420@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <477a547e.1115003420@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rand Simberg wrote: > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:47:36 -0400, in a place far, far away, 13th > monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> made the phosphor on my monitor > glow in such a way as to indicate that: > >> ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: >>> "Rand Simberg" wrote >>>> My idea of private property is that if the government tells me how >>>> much I can charge for its use (e.g., rent controls, anti-scalping >>>> laws), then it's no longer really my property. >>> Well that's fine because it really isn't your property. You just have >>> temporary posession of it. >> And so we see the socialist liberal true idea of ownership. Your car is >> but a temporary thing owned by the village, and loaned to you... your >> Underwear are the same.... the gold in your teeth... these EcoElitist >> are sure that everything you own belongs to the socialist government and >> you barrow it from the government until you die and then, the tax is >> supposed to take it back and redistribute it as the socialist government >> sees fit(Their Gaia- Circle of life religion), not as you had intended >> be done via your personal property rights... >> >> Science will Save you, just give up some Constitutional rights. > > Why bother to respond to the tripe from creatures like the above? I > automatically filter out anyone imbecilic enough to have a screen name > containing "KKK." I guess because half the population can't see the truth... they believe what's said without considering the source or the ramifications of the idiocy. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 10 14:01:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:01:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: NASA Revises Temperature Data - 1930's warmest on record! References: <30Xui.46658$fJ5.35755@pd7urf1no> In-Reply-To: <30Xui.46658$fJ5.35755@pd7urf1no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Green Turtle wrote: > The real issue here is will NASA issue a press announcement, and a public > correction? > > We have to wonder at what point the public will start to question NASA, and > should they continue to get the amounts of public funding that they do... > > NASA needs to exercise caution here, as they may very well get a pubic black > eye over the warming issues, and a resulting loss of credibility will not > only hurt public trust and confidence, but will have ramifications for > funding that NASA receives. > > NASA needs to really come clean on this issue.... > They need to take their lumps for letting a lunatic left wing Political fringe cult use the "NASA scientist" moniker to frame what has become a socialist movement to control basic human rights. EX NASA scientists may be as nutty as an astronaut in a lovers triangle... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 10 14:30:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:30:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Why C02 is not the cause References: <1186701953.065674.99830@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "chemist" wrote in message > news:1186701953.065674.99830@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> CO2 does not drive global temperature. > > > > AWG has already been debunked, it's time to get on board with the NEW > doomsday scenario: "The Magnetic Crisis"! Scientists predict a pole shift > in the very near future and we have to do everything we can to prevent this > catastrophe. We need to impose a "Flux Tax" that will ration the use of the > magnetism that is accelerating the coming doom. The evil electric motor > manufacturers will fight like hell and hire people to taunt the believers. > > Switch from electric Hybrids to gas power... I'm selling "Flux Offsets" if you can't adjust your lifestyle to the same restrictions as the poor. Cell phone flux level is climbing to match the Hockey stick warming graphs. We looked back in the ice cores and found algae that had high iron content and these bubbles of magnetic flux have proven that the fields are different since humans have been industrializing. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 10 21:29:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:29:08 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: property rights>>Re: Science out the window when it comes to>> References: <1186515660.567680.200310@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <4764d11d.950297986@news.giganews.com> <_qIui.10270$Ug2.4202@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <477a547e.1115003420@news.giganews.com> <1186698646.328888.11830@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <20knb3dbc99297lv39cvasf4s74g0aj2hs@4ax.com> <1186771890.002326.260460@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186794031.607348.242910@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186794031.607348.242910@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Einar wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:51:30 -0700, Lloyd wrote: >> >>> And why do measurements in the atmosphere, at sea, and in rural areas >>> show warming too? >> They don't, because they are not included in any data set. The way GW believers tell it, is that one area can't give the a true guess as to Global Warming, only by using the whole data set will we do that. Therefore if any of the data set is skewed then the whole data set is skewed. From - Sat Aug 11 00:16:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:16:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Global Land Temperatures Warmest Ever in January, April References: <1186697932.601231@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net> <1186700326.732045@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> <1186705473.220190@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> <435ob3953kg1sjeea5qb2ju7t1tfvdi8f2@4ax.com> <46BBE2E7.36834E6@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <46BCC227.E7435E04@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <46BCFC77.ABE98D7E@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <89rqb3dscq9pifajh1ut01vfnkba9aer0b@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SPierce wrote: > "Whata Fool" wrote in message > news:89rqb3dscq9pifajh1ut01vfnkba9aer0b@4ax.com... > (snipped) >> If opposition to leftists has to be called "right wing", >> then there are a lot of "right wingers", because the percentage of >> leftists in the USA is about 3 percent. >> > > I would have thought more than that, but if so, they would all have to be > John Lennonista academics. > > 80% of the news media are self professed Liberals... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 11 18:16:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:16:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Antarctica Ice Gaining Mass References: <1186760510.492673.314910@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > "GatherNoMoss" wrote >> We can't take the chance. >> We must hand over the economy to the socialist for the sake of >> humanity...fuzzy animals and the penguins. > > We already control the global economy you Ignorant Fuck. > No WE control it, the EcoNazis will use the excuse "humanity" to attempt to dominate it, Kind'a like the church used Hell and Rapture to control the economy of old. Welcome to the ranks of the almost literate. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 11 18:20:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:20:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Antarctica Ice Gaining Mass References: <1186729491.974806.113270@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > wrote >> Antartica can't melt away. Since for one thing, >> it's only a collection of glaciers in the minds of severely braindead >> idgits. > > > Antarctic Glaciers Melting Faster -Study > ---------------------------------------- > - Reuters - 09/21/2004 21:54 > > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Glaciers once held up by a > floating ice shelf off Antarctica are now sliding off > into the sea -- and they are going fast, scientists said > on Tuesday. > > Two separate studies from climate researchers and the > space agency NASA show the glaciers are flowing into > Antarctica's Weddell Sea, freed by the 2002 breakup of > the Larsen B ice shelf. > A few Co2ppm difference and the globe is at risk, if life is so tender, we're dinosaurs. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 11 19:07:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:07:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Antarctica Ice Gaining Mass References: <1186729491.974806.113270@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <_Cqvi.868$uh7.485@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1186872388.004268.116440@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186872388.004268.116440@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 11, 5:20 pm, Talk-n-Dog >> A few Co2ppm difference and the globe is at risk, if life is so tender, >> we're dinosaurs. >> > > The GLOBE is not at risk from AGW - the physical orb is likely to stay > there even if its climate changes, its icecaps melt, its seas rise, > and/or the intensity of its cyclonic storms gets worse. > > It's the globe's INHABITANTS that are potentially at risk -- many > (although probably not all) human beings, and many non--human > creatures, plants and animals that inhabit marginal ecosystems (like > certain kinds of coral reefs, for example.) > > B. "If life is so tender, we're dinosaurs ..." > > Uh, guy, why do you think the dinosaurs disappeared? > > Wasn't it climate change? > > Big meteorite hits the Yucatan, or huge volcanoes erupt, throwing huge > masses of particulate pollution and aersols into the stratosphere and > changing the average temperature? Then save yourself, for the meteorite. I think death by meteorite sounds better than death by Co2. Knock yourself out. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 11 19:09:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:09:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Interesting Pseudo [Scientific] Paper ... References: <46b964a7$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1186560275.432634.13830@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186563526.643910.52650@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1186813724.683998.63740@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186818878.825848.130450@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46be3f5f$0$22627$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <46be3fa0$0$22570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <46be3fa0$0$22570$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dechucka wrote: > "dechucka" wrote in message > news:46be3f5f$0$22627$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> wrote in message >> news:l8qvi.3273$i85.1567@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >>> "Arthur Brain" wrote in message >>> news:1186818878.825848.130450@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >>>> Bill Ward wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 23:28:44 -0700, Arthur Brain wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bill Ward wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That tells us more about yourself than the merits of the paper. >>>>>> You still don't seem to understand >>>>>> >>>>>> What does this tell you, used as a reference in this paper: >>>>>> >>>>>> "[180] Anonymous, "The Greenhouse E?ect" (In German, 23.03.2007), >>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treibhauseffekt" >>>>> It tells me you didn't read the paper. >>>>> >>>>> You may be surprised at the reason for the reference, so I won't spoil >>>>> your enjoyment by giving away the plot. >>>> Suprised? No, of course not - I fully expect the primary-school twerps >>>> who wrote this paper to make arses of themselves. >>>> >>>> This is the reason they quote Wikipaedia: >>>> >>>> First, they make this patently idiotic statement: >>>> "Rahmstorf's reference to the second law of thermodynamics is plainly >>>> wrong. The second >>>> law is a statement about heat, not about energy." >>>> >>>> then they quote Wikipaedia to show that there, too, heat and energy >>>> are considered interchangeable concepts. >>>> >>>> I really don't know what more needs to be said about this - unless you >>>> ACTUALLY need it pointed out to you that heat IS indeed energy? >>> You can't be serious. This is high school physics. Heat (temperature) >>> in not energy. >>> >>> Temperature is the result of kinetic energy of the molecules in an >>> object. >>> Specifically, temperature is the result of how much this kinetic energy >>> is >>> flowing out of the object. It DOES NOT represent the actually amount of >>> kinetic energy in the object! Think about this. (Don't just dismiss it >>> you >>> evasive twit.) >>> >>> An average of the kinetic energy of three objects is physically >>> meaningful. >>> An average of the temperature of these same objects WILL NOT tell you the >>> average of then kinetic energy of the objects. This stems from the fact >>> that temperature does not represent the kinetic energy in an object. >>> Moreover, and most importantly, if the objects of different temperature >>> were >>> to somehow be combined the resulting temperature would not necessarily be >>> the averagethe the temperatures before these objects were mixed together. >>> Consequently average temperature is not meaningful. >> you idiot heat and temperature are not he same thing, no wonder you think >> this paper is scientific >> >> Temperate is the average kinetic energy in an object >> >> Heat is the total energy so while it includes the kenetic energy it also >> includes the potential eneries of the molercules. >> >> So both heat and tempurature measure energy all be it different >> combinations of energies > > ie tempurature is not energy but heat is > > My gas tank has bunches of potential energy but seems to hang at room temp? My thermometer must be broken. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 12 10:05:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:05:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: GW CHOICE->->->Re: Proof that "Anti-Global Warming" is a religion of denials.. References: <1186783210.712717.199030@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186783680.341906.320740@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186784261.959147.280990@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1186786676.859054.40560@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46BE18E8.233AB756@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <8jpvi.32949$2v1.28347@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> <46BE4E80.6246F5EB@NOSPAMhotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46BE4E80.6246F5EB@NOSPAMhotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Lochner wrote: > Bill Habr wrote: >> Kurt Lochner was chiding the intentional ignorance of: >>> "obvious dink" whined about: >>> >>>> http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Falsification_of_CO2.pdf >>> Written by a couple of academics with no formal background >>> in atmospheric physics, climate studies of any sort.. >>> >>> --See subject header for details.. >> So Kurt you are "pro" global warming? > Liberals want a right to choose, until it's something they Believe... then it needs to be a law. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 12 10:28:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:28:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.space.policy Subject: Re: Antarctica Ice Gaining Mass References: <1186760510.492673.314910@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <6Kqvi.61785$KV1.28465@read2.cgocable.net> <1186924706.237591.230080@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1186924706.237591.230080@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BradGuth wrote: > On Aug 11, 3:28 pm, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" > wrote: >>> ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: >>>> We already control the global economy you Ignorant Fuck. >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> >>> No WE control it, >> We? Ahahahaha... Look at the Hamster claiming to control the global >> economy and then whining when he sees a threat to his claimed soverignty >> over it. >> >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote >> >>> the EcoNazis will use the excuse "humanity" to attempt to dominate it, >>> Kind'a like the church used Hell and Rapture to control the economy of >>> old. >> Kinda like you claim to contol it now ay? >> >> Ahahahahahah... You Ignorant, KKKonservative Hypocrite Loser. > > Talk-n-Dog is a serious mainstream status quo fuckologist on steroids, > whereas his Jewish EcoNazis that intend to snooker humanity for all > it's worth, and to otherwise cause and/or allow as much collateral > damage and carnage of the innocent is perhaps more truth worthy than > we can accept; so what do you expect from such a GW Bush and Dick > Cheney lover that's supposedly opposed to those Jewish EcoNazis that > are really good at pulling each of our legs in opposite directions? Damage and carnage, more truth worthy, I like that.... Do it for the children... How are we going to pay for a tax cut... but the - how are we going to pay for Global Warming taxes/mandates doesn't make it to your lips does it? We've seen all your deceptive uttering and know who you are. You just don't like it when people have your number... when the people see you GW nuts for the neurotic, OCD, mental midgets that you are. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 12 10:42:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:42:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films,alt.global-warming,can.politics,sci.environment Subject: Re: Speaking of retarded sockpuppets.. References: <1186677849.770159.125070@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1186679052.258468.116260@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186679845.536035.136150@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186717665.872725.211030@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1186838043.963551.114970@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46BDD937.42634CAF@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1186862479.415852.297520@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46BE17C3.47EBF69@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <46BE8598.D5C12AF9@NOSPAMhotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46BE8598.D5C12AF9@NOSPAMhotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Lochner wrote: > John Bishop wrote: >> Kurt Lochner wrote: >>> *>LOL!<* Your ignorance is noted and laughed at, boohoohoo.. >>> >>> IP Address state: Pennsylvania >>> IP Address city: King Of Prussia >>> ISP: Comcast Cable >>> >>> --See subject header for details.. >> My favourite anti-global warming loon is "Gonzo", from Australia. >> >> Out of curiosity, I clicked on his Google ID and was amazed. >> >> After pulling out a calculator and dividing his monthly posts into an >> average of a 30-day month, it was over 65 a day! >> >> He had to be a 'bot', but no! >> >> All had to do with global warming! >> >> I could post as many, but I'd have to be payed for it. > > Interesting concept, but I doubt that these 'deniers' > merit any kind of pay for their pseudo-science.. > > --More likely, it's just a pathology on their part.. he has a government job and does nothing but post here all day.. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 12 11:04:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 11:04:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Global Warming is a medical affliction Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Global warming has been linked to a disorder known as "Cranium rectal inversion", a study found that 98% of all victims are Liberal/Democrat. The procedure to remove their head from the orifice in which it's lodged is complex and only occasionally successful. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 13 10:14:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:14:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Exposing the Hoax References: <1186500034.807680.62750@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46B89346.C69B5158@hotmail.com> <46B8A74F.F28339F1@hotmail.com> <46B8D2F8.D1C99DCC@hotmail.com> <46B8D841.6DE43F0F@hotmail.com> <46B9714B.1D749F78@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Eeyore" wrote in message > news:46B9714B.1D749F78@hotmail.com... >> >> Server 13 wrote: >> >>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>> Server 13 wrote: >>>>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>>>> Server 13 wrote: >>>>>>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>>>>>> Server 13 wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Eeyore" wrote >>>>>>>>>> Server 13 wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> k00k-a-d00dle-d0000!!!! >>>>>>>>>> Read the report. >>>>>>>>>> http://arxiv.org/pdf/0707.1161.pdf >>>>>>>>> Same sad sorry crock of shit, different day. >>>>>>>> How do you *KNOW* ? >>>>>>> I'm not a complete dumbass. That helps. >>>>>> So you don't actually know do you. >>>>> rofl You boys sure do make up some funny stuff. >>>> Do you enjoy flaunting your ignorance ? >>>> >>>> I see all you ever have to offer are empty phrases and gestures. In all >>>> probability I imagine you have next to no knowledge or skill in any >>>> scientific discipline. >>> Of course you do, of course you do. All legitimate scientific work >>> references Wikipedia, don't you know. >> More evidence Are you GW nuts taking the cubic feet/tons of air at this temp and that temp or just taking vague numbers, you might wonder what if - the volume of warmer air is actually smaller and the planet could be overall cooler with many more small areas with highs that are records. That's like figuring the Oil companies profit by measuring the prices and ignoring the sales volume. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 13 12:55:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:55:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.society.conservatism,alt.politics.conservative,alt.society.liberalism Subject: Re: July was 5th warmest on NASA's 128-year Northern Hemisphere record. References: <1186960503.877078.155400@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henry Paisley wrote: > Paul E. Lehmann wrote: >> Give up Roger, AGWers have been outed. Try to >> find something more productive to do with your >> life. >> >> > It's true. Experts now say that are no scientists and never were. > > The entire concept of global warming is a great and all encompassing > socialist conspiracy; the brainchild of Gore and a plot to get even with > Bush and the oil companies and enslave us all in Godless Socialism. > > Conservation (and its evil twin, physical fitness) of all kinds is a communist conspiracy to > undermine the core American values of gluttony, sloth and ignorance. INCORRECT>> The forced rationing(and it's twin, forced eugenics) by government is a socialist/communist conspiracy to undermine the CORE American values of self determination, personal property and individual-innovation. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 13 19:53:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:53:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: >>From the Independent, UK > > [Article Summary: Floods displace 28 million+ in Bangaladesh & India > .... > Children in Bihar eating rats ...Relief Coordinator Says GW > involved... ] > ------------------------ > Monsoon flooding spreads west across India and Pakistan > > By Nina Lakhani > > Published: 12 August 2007 > > Torrential monsoon rains that have killed more than 2,000 people in > north-east India, Bangladesh and Nepal in recent weeks are now > devastating north-west India and neighbouring Pakistan. > > At least 10 people have died and thousands have been left homeless and > without electricity, food or clean water after more than 40in of rain > fell in India's north-western state of Gujarat last week. > 40 days and 40 nights of rain will be next. CO2 Global warming or Divine intervention? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 09:13:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:13:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 13, 7:53 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> john fernbach wrote: >>> >From the Independent, UK >>> [Article Summary: Floods displace 28 million+ in Bangaladesh & India >>> .... >>> Children in Bihar eating rats ...Relief Coordinator Says GW >>> involved... ] >>> ------------------------ >>> Monsoon flooding spreads west across India and Pakistan >>> By Nina Lakhani >>> Published: 12 August 2007 >>> Torrential monsoon rains that have killed more than 2,000 people in >>> north-east India, Bangladesh and Nepal in recent weeks are now >>> devastating north-west India and neighbouring Pakistan. >>> At least 10 people have died and thousands have been left homeless and >>> without electricity, food or clean water after more than 40in of rain >>> fell in India's north-western state of Gujarat last week. >> 40 days and 40 nights of rain will be next. CO2 Global warming or Divine >> intervention? > > How witty you are, Talk-n-Dog! > > 28 million people displaced by floods in South Asia, and you're bring > up the Noah story! ROFLMAO! > > > That's almost as funny as stories about homeless children in Bihar > eating rats! > Then fly over there and explain how Global warming regulations will suck up all our "extra" cash and they'll be the lucky ones in a future of Global warming regulations and global governance and global taxes. The one thing worse than our government, is everyone else's. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 09:35:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:35:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187060816.523822.312780@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187060816.523822.312780@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Aug 13, 9:44 pm, john fernbach wrote: > >> 28 million people displaced by floods in South Asia, and you're bring >> up the Noah story! ROFLMAO! > > If I could control the floods or where people live, I would then worry > about not doing anything. > Your excessive emotional concern over events out of your control seems > neurotic. > >> That's almost as funny as stories about homeless children in Bihar >> eating rats! > > Are they cooked? Stewed? Blackened? Nah....Cajun style. Curried rat, almost as good as the "frisky" hot dogs at the live earth concert. Rat McNuggets? Give them jobs in a petroleum plant. Or go there yourself and start a green business to hire them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 09:45:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:45:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187060816.523822.312780@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187062566.587566.205740@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187062566.587566.205740@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 13, 11:06 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >> On Aug 13, 9:44 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> >>> 28 million people displaced by floods in South Asia, and you're bring >>> up the Noah story! ROFLMAO! >> If I could control the floods or where people live, I would then worry >> about not doing anything. > > You're begging the question here of whether you can affect floods by > affecting GW, Bawana. > > And maybe you can't affect the floods -- maybe all of the IPCC reports > and most of the leading climate science institutions around the world > are wrong, and there's no link between CO2 emissions and climate > change and flooding. > > But you're begging the question by the way you repond to the latest > reports of freak & extreme weather, Bawana. > >> Your excessive emotional concern over events out of your control seems >> neurotic. > > Oh, ouch; I am so sorry to seem neurotic. And I'm deeply apologetic > if I seem to be "emotional" about 28 million people getting driven > from their homes by floods that AGW may be aggravating. > > Of course, I don't know for certain if AGW is causing, or contributing > to the severity of, the unusually heavy flooding that Pakistan, India, > Nepal and Bangaladesh are all experiencing this year. > > The relief official from the UN has stated that global climate change > is implicated in the flooding, but of course he could be wrong. > > But is it "excessively" emotional -- in fact, is it "emotional" at > all, rather than a question of moral values -- to be somewhat > concerned about the risk that our collective CO2 emissions are killing > people in South Asia, and helping to put as much as 40% of Bangaladesh > under water? > >>> That's almost as funny as stories about homeless children in Bihar >>> eating rats! >> Are they cooked? Stewed? Blackened? Nah....Cajun style. > > More wit from the GW Denialists. It's wonderful to know that you have > such a sense of humor about flood victims being driven by hunger to > this kind of behavior, Bawana. > > What are your favorite rat recipes, BTW? Squirrel is a close to a rat, ever eat squirrel dumplings? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 09:51:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:51:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187060816.523822.312780@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187062566.587566.205740@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187062566.587566.205740@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 13, 11:06 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >> On Aug 13, 9:44 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> >>> 28 million people displaced by floods in South Asia, and you're bring >>> up the Noah story! ROFLMAO! >> If I could control the floods or where people live, I would then worry >> about not doing anything. > > You're begging the question here of whether you can affect floods by > affecting GW, Bawana. > > And maybe you can't affect the floods -- maybe all of the IPCC reports > and most of the leading climate science institutions around the world > are wrong, and there's no link between CO2 emissions and climate > change and flooding. > > But you're begging the question by the way you repond to the latest > reports of freak & extreme weather, Bawana. > >> Your excessive emotional concern over events out of your control seems >> neurotic. > > Oh, ouch; I am so sorry to seem neurotic. And I'm deeply apologetic > if I seem to be "emotional" about 28 million people getting driven > from their homes by floods that AGW may be aggravating. > > Of course, I don't know for certain if AGW is causing, or contributing > to the severity of, the unusually heavy flooding that Pakistan, India, > Nepal and Bangaladesh are all experiencing this year. > > The relief official from the UN has stated that global climate change > is implicated in the flooding, but of course he could be wrong. > > But is it "excessively" emotional -- in fact, is it "emotional" at > all, rather than a question of moral values -- to be somewhat > concerned about the risk that our collective CO2 emissions are killing > people in South Asia, and helping to put as much as 40% of Bangladesh > under water? > >>> That's almost as funny as stories about homeless children in Bihar >>> eating rats! >> Are they cooked? Stewed? Blackened? Nah....Cajun style. > > More wit from the GW Denialists. It's wonderful to know that you have > such a sense of humor about flood victims being driven by hunger to > this kind of behavior, Bawana. > > What are your favorite rat recipes, BTW? > "Japan donates over 500,000 USD to Mexico to fight climate change" Bangladesh's kids could have had that... but it's gone to convert food to fuel instead.... are you sure that global warming is the priority you need to throw/mandate money to be spent on? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 16:56:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:56:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Interesting Scientific Paper ... References: <1186812093.276610.196070@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <21gtb3pl94kooufbld913a7jr8sbrrf927@4ax.com> <1186920837.708372.60760@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186957160.665695.61260@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186974804.711032.14190@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186978257.441148.172120@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46c13cb4$0$22594$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <46c15476$0$22623$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <46c16339$0$22575$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> <1187116855.104884.243640@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187116855.104884.243640@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 14, 9:04 am, "Bill Habr" wrote: >> "dechucka" wrote in message >> >> news:46c16339$0$22575$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... >> >> >> >> Dechucka, >> >> What a physicist calls heat Claudius calls temperature and vise versa. > > You cultist can't dispute the paper so you dispute semantics. > What is the meaning of "is"? Sound familiar? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 14 17:16:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:16:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: 5 heat wave deaths in Memphis so far References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Eric Swanson wrote: >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070814/ap_on_re_us/heat_wave > > We can count on fewer deaths from winter cold snaps as things warm up, > right? Good point... Sonny Bono would be here today if only Global warming had come sooner. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 15 14:49:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:49:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Beam Me UP...->>Re: Please stop deleting my replies, References: <1187158632.865350.14360@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187158632.865350.14360@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Please stop deleting my replies, especially after you > post a message challenging me for a response. > You must have set the filter to delete your own posts after reading one and realizing that who ever wrote it was nuts... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 15 15:01:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 15:01:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: man made or God->>Re: "Oh, rats!" -- That's what children in Bihar are eating as India, Nepal, Pakistan, References: <1187046738.887577.327110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187055840.714671.278100@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187060816.523822.312780@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187062566.587566.205740@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187143095.028819.312060@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187143095.028819.312060@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 14, 9:51 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> john fernbach wrote: >>> On Aug 13, 11:06 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >>>> On Aug 13, 9:44 pm, john fernbach wrote: >>>>> 28 million people displaced by floods in South Asia, and you're bring >>>>> up the Noah story! ROFLMAO! >>>> If I could control the floods or where people live, I would then worry >>>> about not doing anything. >>> You're begging the question here of whether you can affect floods by >>> affecting GW, Bawana. >>> And maybe you can't affect the floods -- maybe all of the IPCC reports >>> and most of the leading climate science institutions around the world >>> are wrong, and there's no link between CO2 emissions and climate >>> change and flooding. >>> But you're begging the question by the way you repond to the latest >>> reports of freak & extreme weather, Bawana. >>>> Your excessive emotional concern over events out of your control seems >>>> neurotic. >>> Oh, ouch; I am so sorry to seem neurotic. And I'm deeply apologetic >>> if I seem to be "emotional" about 28 million people getting driven >>> from their homes by floods that AGW may be aggravating. >>> Of course, I don't know for certain if AGW is causing, or contributing >>> to the severity of, the unusually heavy flooding that Pakistan, India, >>> Nepal and Bangaladesh are all experiencing this year. >>> The relief official from the UN has stated that global climate change >>> is implicated in the flooding, but of course he could be wrong. >>> But is it "excessively" emotional -- in fact, is it "emotional" at >>> all, rather than a question of moral values -- to be somewhat >>> concerned about the risk that our collective CO2 emissions are killing >>> people in South Asia, and helping to put as much as 40% of Bangladesh >>> under water? >>>>> That's almost as funny as stories about homeless children in Bihar >>>>> eating rats! >>>> Are they cooked? Stewed? Blackened? Nah....Cajun style. >>> More wit from the GW Denialists. It's wonderful to know that you have >>> such a sense of humor about flood victims being driven by hunger to >>> this kind of behavior, Bawana. >>> What are your favorite rat recipes, BTW? >> "Japan donates over 500,000 USD to Mexico to fight climate change" >> >> Bangladesh's kids could have had that... but it's gone to convert food >> to fuel instead.... are you sure that global warming is the priority you >> need to throw/mandate money to be spent on? > > I dunno, Dog. > > Question for you -- Do you favor the US and other wealthy countries > donating money to Third World governments for the purpose of fighting > poverty? > > Are you basically an American-style "liberal," in other words? > > Personally, I think that a much better use for the money is for > financing giant hedge fund schemes, liveraged buyout deals, and merger > & acquisition deals that enable Wall Street investment banks to grow > richer by shuffling and reshuffling parts of corporate America. > > I mean, in the first 6 months of 2007 alone, there were approximately > $2 trillion in Merger & Acquisition deals that were reported > globally. Plus lots of leverage buyout arrangements to take publicly > traded corporations private, plus very high levels of hedge fund > activity .... some of it, unfortunately, apparently based on the > subprime mortgage business, which is now kind of blowing up. > > I think this kind of financial speculation is MUCH more productive > than simply wasting money on dumb things like relieving Third World > poverty or trying to prevent a global climate disaster by curbing CO2 > and methane emissions, myself. > > After all, we NEED hedge funds and corporate mergers and other large- > scale financial speculation. We don't really NEED a cure for Third > World poverty or a global effort to maintain the stability of the > climate. > > With enough hedge fund activity, who cares what happens to the > climate? > > Right, Bird Dog? Is that approximately what you think? > With all that money, we might start a petroleum plant in India... Oooopps we did that, I wonder how many kids would eat rats had they not. Then again the Chlorine leak there killed 1200 people... So solving the worlds problems isn't our problem is it. We can try to help in a few places but wasting resources on GW at this point, is a waste. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 16 13:56:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:56:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.religion.islam,alt.religion.christian Subject: Re: Global Warming - A just dessert? References: <1187185951.094892.148300@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1187194055.613431.256450@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46c32c2a$1$16443$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1187278617.033302.30480@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187278617.033302.30480@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 15, 9:40 am, "williamhubbard" > wrote: >> Not to worry! Nuclear Winter will offset global warming! > > Not really, nuclear > winter is projected to last a couple of years, > while the greenhouse gases behind the majority > of the recent global warming have hundreds and > thousands of year lifetimes in the atmosphere. > > For more information on nuclear winter see > http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Dark-World-After-Nuclear/dp/0393018709/ref=sr_1_1/105-3923455-6004441?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187278181&sr=8-1 > > The estimated lifetimes of greenhouse gases > are in the next to last column here: > http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/pns/current_ghg.html > > A truly smart species would avoid both nuclear winter > and global warming, alas I doubt ours is that bright. Misery is misery, kids eating rats or nuclear winter, or bombed in a grocery market. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 16 19:14:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:14:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Guardian on NASAs error References: <13c8pptbj89olfc@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > altheim wrote: > >> "Douglas Clark" wrote: >> >>> This may be old hat but.... >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2007/aug/16/1 >> >> >> Yes it is "old hat" but I'm glad you posted it all the same >> as it serves to remind us all that the error, described in the >> article as "small and insignificant", related to the USA only. >> >> "climatologists at the Goddard Institute of Space Science >> in New York now accept that 1934 was historically the United >> States' hottest year since records began, not 1998 ..." >> > > Yep. Global error = 1/1000 of a degree. > Multiplied by 100 years, what other errors are in the GW theory, your building a house of cards. It's balanced on a guess. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 17 11:37:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 11:37:31 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Mars must be Boiling with 95% Co2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MARS The atmosphere on Mars consists of 95% carbon dioxide , 3% nitrogen , 1.6% argon , and contains traces of oxygen , water , and methane . EARTH It contains roughly (by molar content/volume) 78% nitrogen , 20.95% oxygen , 0.93% argon , 0.038% carbon dioxide , trace amounts of other gases , and a variable amount (average around 1%) of water vapor . Given the *greenhouse gas* effect supposed today, the heating caused by the Co2 on Mars would make it a boiling cauldron. But instead mars is colder than earth? HHHhhhmmmmm??? From - Fri Aug 17 13:03:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:03:28 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: So when does proto-communist "rationing" begin? References: <1187368424.160413.114630@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187369679.767556.238240@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187369679.767556.238240@a39g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chemist wrote: > On Aug 17, 5:33 pm, Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE > wrote: >> Fuel, food, housing, etc. That's what the "primatives" want for us. > > And it is so unnecessary. > Greenhouse warming is myth thought up to > support the idea that CO2 is a danger. > As things move away from centralized energy, how will the government make up the tax loss? They'll have to tax the exhaust and not the freely produced energy.... if cars were hydrogen powered, it may be possible to make the fuel yourself, as also with alcohol. People are already being fined for bio-diesel that is run on the highway. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects aliens, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 17 13:27:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:27:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.libertarian Subject: Re: Socialized mal-medicine References: <4z%wi.1263$i75.1063@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net> <5tmdnRB0HtQ6P1nbnZ2dnUVZ_sCtnZ2d@comcast.com> <0rmdnfbC375idlnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1u9xi.49789$YL5.31334@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <6zkxi.49839$YL5.39276@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> In-Reply-To: <6zkxi.49839$YL5.39276@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Titix wrote: > "no surrender" wrote in message > news:o_2dnfksQqVT4FjbnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> "Titix" wrote in message >> news:1u9xi.49789$YL5.31334@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... >>> "SeanR" wrote in message >>> news:0rmdnfbC375idlnbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> Titix wrote: >>>>> Talking about brainwashing...somebody (Fox I suspect) did a good job >> on >>> you. >>>>> What makes you believe that treating a sick person for profit is >> better >>> than >>>>> treating >>>>> that person for no profit. Common sense should prevail here. >>>>> If my job, house and Mercedes is on the line, I might worry about whether you survive, but if I'm a Government doctor that - like teachers can't be fired and get a mediocre paycheck - I think you'll be hard pressed to get descent care. Just look at the Military Hospital that was in question this past year. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 17 13:44:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:44:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Mars must be Boiling with 95% Co2 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Hyett wrote: > In alt.global-warming on Fri, 17 Aug 2007, 13th monkey > <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> wrote : >> >> >> MARS >> The atmosphere on Mars consists of 95% carbon dioxide >> , 3% nitrogen >> , 1.6% argon >> , and contains traces of oxygen >> , water >> , and methane >> . >> >> EARTH >> It contains roughly (by molar content/volume) 78% nitrogen >> , 20.95% oxygen >> , 0.93% argon >> , 0.038% carbon dioxide >> , >> trace amounts of other gases >> , and a >> variable amount (average around 1%) of water vapor >> . >> >> Given the *greenhouse gas* effect supposed today, the heating caused >> by the Co2 on Mars would make it a boiling cauldron. >> But instead mars is colder than earth? HHHhhhmmmmm??? > > Because Mars has only 1/1000th of Earth's atmospheric density. Won't that make mars Co2 only 2.5 times that of earths and still 95% of the planets atmosphere. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 18 11:11:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:11:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: EVIDENCE STILL SHOWS GLOBAL WARMING References: <1187382150.745517.186640@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187383034.238414.5600@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187384620.442541.238380@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187398493.744767.298840@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <9m1ec3l8j2ar33l48j2e3ba4vggcb6sjo0@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <9m1ec3l8j2ar33l48j2e3ba4vggcb6sjo0@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:54:53 -0700, Bawana > wrote: > > >> Duh. >> Any other bright ideas to tame the co2 bogeyman? > Nuclear winter. http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/84/46/ -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 18 12:44:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:44:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: ..07 First Atlantic Hurricane Nearing ..."Perfect"...More Global Warming Evidence References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Captain Compassion wrote: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:31:08 -0400, "Jonathan" > wrote: > >> PCC Working Group I Summary for Policymakers of "Climate Change 2007: >> The Physical Science Basis" >> http://www.ucar.edu/news/features/climatechange/faqs-wg1-spm.jsp > >> >> Arctic Sea Ice Shrinks to Record Low >> By RANDOLPH E. SCHMID, AP Science Writer >> Aug 17, 2007 >> The puzzling thing, he said, is that the melting is actually occurring >> faster than computer climate models have predicted. So the models are wrong? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 11:20:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:20:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ..07 First Atlantic Hurricane Nearing ..."Perfect"...More Global Warming Evidence References: <470f3632.352680998@news.giganews.com> <4714a4e9.381024614@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan wrote: > wrote in message > news:SFOxi.18471$eY.1634@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net... >> "Rand Simberg" wrote in message >> news:4714a4e9.381024614@news.giganews.com... >> >>> No, it's not a short-term aberration. It's a long-term problem, as >>> more and more people move into hurricane zones. But it tells us >>> nothing about frequency or intensity of hurricanes, despite your >>> illogic. >> It tells us a lot about the mindset of AGW advocates. > > > What it tells me is those in denial over global warming > won't look at any facts at all. Since the facts do not > support your position. The NHC puts almost all of their > hurricane data in terms of US landfalls. > The NHC only tells you where a hurricane will go, after it developed, and only a few days of prediction, even then Hurricanes criss cross all over and some zig rather than zag and cross Florida one way and back the other... Even I can look at the globe and see that many of the storms are like a sliced golf swing, traveling west north west. But I don't claim to be a soothsayer that can predict where they'll go. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 13:00:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:00:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: EVIDENCE STILL SHOWS GLOBAL WARMING References: <1187382150.745517.186640@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187383034.238414.5600@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187384620.442541.238380@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187398493.744767.298840@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <9m1ec3l8j2ar33l48j2e3ba4vggcb6sjo0@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David wrote: > On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:11:24 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >> times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - > > What exactly is the ''global warming theory''? > > According to Al Gore, The UN, or the News Media? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 16:21:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:21:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ..07 First Atlantic Hurricane Nearing ..."Perfect"...More Global Warming Evidence References: <470f3632.352680998@news.giganews.com> <1187531712.355021.297600@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <8P%xi.14511$mp6.10661@bignews9.bellsouth.net> <47169a34.443818757@news.giganews.com> In-Reply-To: <47169a34.443818757@news.giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rand Simberg wrote: > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:18:48 -0400, in a place far, far away, > "Jonathan" made the phosphor on my monitor glow > in such a way as to indicate that: > > >> Buildings can't evacuate. And btw, post Andrew building codes (1992) >> significantly strengthened many buildings in Florida. > > Mostly new ones. That depends, in a remodel you have to bring some things up to code. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 16:44:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:44:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GLOBAL WARMING ANIMATION References: <1186085068.245369.228770@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 00:19:28 -0400, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" > sayd the following: > >> "Crackles McFarly" wrote >>> This SAME level of increase, in fact DOUBLE THIS INCREASE, has been >>> seen on Earth and no large level Human extinction occurred. >> That's amazing because Humans didn't exist when temperatures were higher >> than they are today. >> >> You like pulling your factoids out of your ass I see. >> >> Typical KKKonservative. >> >> > > > Why is it every time you don't agree with the Global Warming panic > you're labeled a Conservative? I've NEVER voted for a Republican so > how does my opinion on Global Warming suddenly FORCE me to be one? You've been labeled as someone with a brain... Rejoice in the irony. Liberals generally don't get it, your different and "Democrat" is not the same as Democratic. Those that preach diversity and acceptance are - diversity impaired, in their own politics. In short - it's not you, even if you are an anomaly in a party of intolerance, it's a problem of those within that party. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 17:14:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 17:14:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Signs of a Warming World? Drought Continues in 25 States of the US -- About 47% of Country References: <1187555842.419497.52580@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187555842.419497.52580@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: >>From the Disaster News Network > > Farmers hit hard by drought across U.S. > Some areas hit by two farming disasters. > > BY HEATHER MOYER | PORT REPUBLIC, Md. | August 18, 2007 > > > > Drought conditions are seriously impacting farming and public water > supplies across more than 25 states, causing economic impacts in the > hundreds of millions of dollars, according to officials across the > nation. > > SNIP > > The USDA has issued drought disaster declarations in counties > throughout Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, > Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Kansas, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, > North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and > Virginia. They can buy water from Texas, build a pipeline... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 22:53:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:53:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: EVIDENCE STILL SHOWS GLOBAL WARMING References: <1187382150.745517.186640@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187383034.238414.5600@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187384620.442541.238380@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187398493.744767.298840@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <9m1ec3l8j2ar33l48j2e3ba4vggcb6sjo0@4ax.com> <8cghc312hgc8l1abvdv58difs6ri64o3vt@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <8cghc312hgc8l1abvdv58difs6ri64o3vt@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David wrote: > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 11:56:56 -0700, Rich > wrote: > >> David wrote: >>> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:11:24 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>> wrote: >>> >>>> http://OutSourcedNews.com >>>> Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >>>> times are, one and the same... >>>> >>>> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >>>> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >>>> whole thing. - Gump That - >>> What exactly is the ''global warming theory''? >> Essentially that the global temperature (whatever that means) goes up >> more or less linearly as CO2 goes up, with a sensitivity of roughly >> 1.5C per 100 ppmv of CO2, more or less. Other 'greenhouse gasses' get >> some minor lip service and some passing mention, but are otherwise >> ignored. Other factors are ignored or declared irrelevant. >> >> The subtext is that evil man is destroying the earth and the only >> way to save the earth is to destroy all (or most) industry and our >> transportation system. Supposedly if we don't were all gonna die >> (or is that fry?). Technically, if we do what they demand (Al Gore >> demands 90% reduction in one generation) a great many of us *will* >> die. For some at least, I trend to think this is desirable if not >> the intent of their support. YMMV. >> >> In the past people like this had different (but very real) concerns >> and were known as luddites. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rich >> > The joke you call ''civilization'' is not sustainable; many WILL die. MANY WILL DIE? Hey dude, all will die... The only joke is how and when. You'll likely die early from a heart attack due to stress from the panic and fear of dieing by things out of your control. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 22:56:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:56:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Signs of an ICE AGE>>>Re: Signs of a Warming World? References: <1187560172.829912.53480@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John F.C. wrote: > On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:49:32 -0700, john fernbach > wrote: > >> Summer Heat Wave Death Toll Reaches 49 >> >> Sunday August 19, 2007 6:01 AM >> By KRISTIN M. HALL >> Associated Press Writer >> >> NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - Authorities in Memphis and Alabama reported 10 >> more heat-related deaths Friday, bringing the toll in the Southeast >> and Midwest to at least 49 since oppressive triple-digit temperatures >> settled over the region last week. >> >> In Memphis alone, heat has been blamed as a factor in 12 deaths, >> mostly elderly victims, in nine days. > ========================================================= > Just out of curiosity do you have the death toll in 1934 when the > temperature in Memphis reached 105? Or in 1881 when it reached 102. They're freezing up in Buffalo, stuck in their cars. -Jimmy Buffett- -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 19 23:04:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:04:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Can you see the Coppock Copout? References: <1187499336.891383.145050@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187561717.720218.326560@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187561717.720218.326560@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kwag7693@hotmail.com wrote: > On Aug 19, 12:55 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Here is a graph of both the new and old NASA GISS >> global temperature numbers. Can you see the change >> caused by the recent revaluation of the continental US >> figures? >> >> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/blogphotos/Blog_Revised_Global_Warmi... >> >> Note than the new line completely hides the old line >> on this graph. That's because, despite the barking >> of the fossil fools, global numbers did not change >> significantly. >> >> This change did not invalidate global warming theory. >> Global warming is still quite real. >> >> Globally, the 1930s were not warmer than the last 20 >> years. >> >> The only hoaxers here are the fossil fuel industry public >> relations shills who lying when they say otherwise. > > Did Hansen get his calculations wrong on this issue or not? Did S. > McIntyre catch his error or not? All of your spin doctoring is not > going to change the central point that objective oversight of modern > big government climate science is practically non-existent and that > the lack of QA is demonstrable and becoming increasingly so. If the > US records can be wrong, with our big budgets and numerous stations, > how credible are global records? Here's McIntyre debunking your > shillery, below. > > http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=1943 > Can Hansen balance his check book? Can NASA balance the Federal Budget? If these guys are so great, they need to be solving Social Securities short falls, those ought to be easy problems compared to Global weather... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 20 14:25:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:25:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: My longer messages are being deleted. References: <1187207957.170256.31300@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1187216598.011296.201960@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > wrote in message > news:1187216598.011296.201960@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 15, 12:59 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >>> My longer messages are being deleted. >>> I have found the cancel messages. >>> Someone does not want my replies >>> to questions. >>> >>> It must be in the fossil fool playbook: >>> when you can't win the debate >>> silence the opposition. >> Oh, come on. Get serious. You're such a lieing jackass. > > ....Says the nonstop lying jackass who's never disproved a single word Roger > said. lol The messages were probably never sent, if the subject gets too long or any of a dozen other reasons, the mailer may not be sending them. If they are sent to your personal "sent" folder then look for them there. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 20 17:41:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:41:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Signs of a Warming World? Drought Returns to New South Wales, Australia References: <1187557482.876052.158170@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187570765.806712.219470@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1187571795.647381.21410@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46c8ffdd$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46c937e4$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46c93eed@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1187625423.628483.299950@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1187637216.343199.237330@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187637216.343199.237330@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 20, 11:57 am, "(David P.)" wrote: >> "Bonzo" wrote: >> >>> Too much alarmism from those pushing their hidden agenda. >> 1. What will the world be like with the projected human >> population of 9 or 10 billion? >> >> 2. Is it fair to inflict a 50 percent increase in population >> on our descendants? >> . >> . > Like many environmentalists, I think addressing world population > growth is urgently necessary. As this poster implies, a 50% increase > in population is likely to make problems like global climate change > MUCH, much worse. > HHHHmmmmmm... It's addressed every day and environmentalists try to stop the natural process. NO SMOKING, WEAR~ SEAT BELTS it's the law... Life's a bitch. Given that you've addressed this already, the only other thing is birth, just how will you address it. There is only one option there. So given all the discussion about "population" what is the solution? It takes no discussion to see the only solution your proposing. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 20 20:39:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:39:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.chem,sci.physics Subject: Re: The Cult of Global Warming References: <1187631811.777367.298010@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Frank wrote: > >> I give Michael Crichton a lot more credit than just being a novelist. >> He is an MD and while some scientists look down their nose at MD's, it >> is a highly technical specialty requiring methodical study. His >> "State of Fear" while fiction, was highly researched and is >> referenced. I've also read, "scientist", Al Gore's "Earth in the >> Balance" which has one good introductory chapter followed by his >> political polemic. > > All good American fascists get their science from fiction novelists. > Writing fiction, is better than preaching it like Al Gore. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 20 21:06:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:06:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: Global Sea Surface Temperatues 1850-2006 References: <1187643309.302412.85930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface >> temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: >> >> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg >> >> As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, >> the rate of sea warming is slower than global land >> warming. NASA GISS has global land surface >> warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and >> 2006. (Please see: >> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) >> >> These data come from: >> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ > > Why is 1970-ish the baseline for the temperature anomaly? > > What was the sensitivity/accuracy of the thermometers used? > > Why should I care that sea surface temperatures have risen over the past > 150 years? If one aspirin helps then 30 will really fix me up - huh. This is a typical way of thinking, which overflows into Global Warming, people think that if a little Co2 makes it a half degree warmer then a lot of Co2 will make it really hot. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 12:05:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:05:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: The "little ice age" was local, not global. References: <1187635366.028606.20790@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1Etyi.185$8Q4.163@newsfe04.lga> In-Reply-To: <1Etyi.185$8Q4.163@newsfe04.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Green Turtle wrote: >> "Roger Coppock" wrote in message >> >> Well, it is a question of having it both ways, is it not? >> >> The so called polar melting of ice is also a localized weather issue, >> since ice isn't melting everywhere else at the same rate either... >> >> The local vs global trump card been one that both sides *conveniently* >> play when it helps make ones point of view... >> >> If it helps the warming cause, then selective amnesia occurs and >> people fail to mention it is a local weather system. >> >> However, it is the left and the socialists movement that is constantly >> stating that a storm, flood, or drought is the results of global warming. >> >> If people would stop pointing out that a storm, or a hot day don't >> proving anything about the weather trends, the people like Gore might >> start to repair their creditably beyond that of used car salesman... > > Let me see if I got this straight, socialist weather is bad, but fascist > weather is good. > > Right. Got it. Thanks! > Socialist weather is ending the world, Fascist weather is just a warm day and a lot of rain once again. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 12:13:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 12:13:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: NASA weather error sparks global warming debate References: <1187364999.815846.193090@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <0C0yi.34097$2v1.529@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> <4d5yi.34132$2v1.13696@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net> <3d6lc3dfjvj46cn3forlq1b90qjklmkr9t@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Carter wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:18:37 -0400, Al Klein >> wrote: >> >>> It's difficult to quote a graph in a text medium. Something someone >>> who does computer modeling for a living should know. >> >> Someone who does computer modeling for a living also knows >> agreement with past data does not mean it will agree with future data. >> >> There are few things more silly than an average annual global >> temperature. It is a project with a defined objective, even with >> very correct data, the result is meaningless, it is not required by >> physics to be the same every year, and in the case of air temperature >> data taken a few feet above the surface, has no value except a data >> archive. > > Are you saying there is no such thing as an annual global temperature? > Please substantiate. > If you have a gallon of water at 212 degrees Fahrenheit and a gallon at 32 degrees Fahrenheit, what is the average temperature? Now if you have an unknown volume of air at 212 and 32 what is the average temp? Without the mass/volume, how can you get an accurate number? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 13:03:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 13:03:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Award-winning Sci Fi Author Debunks Global Warming The False Religion References: <46ca5c7e$1$31091$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Harley wrote: > >> By Noel Sheppard > >> Orson Scott Card is an award-winning science fiction author > > All good American pickup driving redneck hillbillies get their science > from science fiction authors, indirectly from newspaper opinion pieces, > of course. > Truth is where you find it... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 15:14:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:14:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: nuclear power is carbon neutral References: <1187708570.758227.260170@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187713040.986581.6620@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187713040.986581.6620@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 21, 10:02 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&ca... >> >> How is nuclear energy not carbon neutral? How does the production of >> nuclear power add to CO2 in the atmosphere or the environment? How is >> it jumping out of the frying pan into the fire? > > Didn't think so. build a nuke plant, it takes years of Fossil fuels and products made by fossil fuels, then mine the fuel. Then hire people to run it and maintain it... ad in the trees cut and then think for a while, since that was off the top of my head, I'm sure there's tons more that I missed. It may be efficient, but neutral? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 15:29:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:29:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: It's time we pulled the plug on this nonsense References: <1187723047.119331.80260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187723047.119331.80260@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 21, 11:23 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Global warming: Don't take skeptics at face value >> >> By JOHN SIBLEY >> Published on: 08/21/07, in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution >> >> Global warming and climate change will move to the front burner in >> Georgia today in a hearing before the state House Energy, Utilities, >> and Telecommunications Committee. A vigorous public discussion is >> overdue. >> There is a growing business consensus that this scientific analysis >> supports action now. > The action will be to start a major *ADVERTISING* campaign to manage the Business consensusee's public image... Businesses exist to make profit, if there is no profit the business dies. The "action" will be to ensure that they continue to produce a profit. Claiming to be GREEN is a PROFITABLE image since no one *wants* to kill our planet, just some have to do things less than green to survive in business. What they say isn't what they do... that goes for *Al Gore Inc.* too... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 21 20:10:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:10:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Do global warmists cheer for big storms? References: <1187730311.220820.291430@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187731767.112243.20670@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187731767.112243.20670@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 21, 2:05 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> http://info.detnews.com/weblog/index.cfm?blogid=10371 >> >> Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 3:42 PM >> >> Manny Lopez >> >> Do global warmists cheer for big storms? > > No. > > Next question. > Only if teh storm kills a Capitalist. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:17:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:17:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films,alt.global-warming,can.politics Subject: God Loves Fools>>>>Re: "The 11th Hour" DiCaprio as big an idiot as Michael Moore References: <1186677849.770159.125070@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1187474193.403565.278920@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187477543.171771.51330@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187753616.419941.301520@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:33:36 -0700, Enough Already wrote: > >> On Aug 18, 3:52 pm, Professor1942 wrote: >> >>> Sorry wrong group - I think you want alt.malthusian-freaks >> Typical one-sentence reply from a small mind. Keep it short since your >> lack of evidence will become self-evident if you ramble. >> >> >> When animals breed out of control we call it overpopulation. When humans >> breed out of control we call it "economic growth." > > When people treat other people like animals, we call it "socialism". The average family size in western civilization went down when farm life changed and infant death went down, sort of self correcting, huh. And the Comrades in Washington didn't have to dictate it from their lofty positions of imperialism. So Your solution is to... terminate life at the exact rate that it's created. You should Promote smoking, ban seat belts, start a war, or worse institute national health care run by the government... Geriatri-cide.... just set an age to "retire" to that final dirt knap. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:27:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:27:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Carter Sticks His Foot In His Mouth References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > > [...] > >> You AGW dimwits just make it up as you go along. > > Ahh, the calm logic of a scientific mind. > > Perhaps you can explain the meaning of average color and > average flavor for me? They're like average pain. We measure by aspirin, a one aspirin head ache or a fifty aspirin amputation trauma.... average them and you get a constant of a beating with a rubber hose, a 25 aspirin global body pain level. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:32:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:32:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Look at me, Im a AntiGlobalWarming Rightard! References: <1187758002.440102.177480@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187758002.440102.177480@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kingssman1@hotmail.com wrote: > YEE HAWW, I just listend to Rush today and He told me that Global > warming is fake > > Well shoot damn, time to sell that low maintnence high mileage car and > purchase a massive gas guzzling SUV. I love going from spending $20 a > week in gas to $80. Shoot with these stupid american grown fuels, I > want to support Terrorism and foriegn oil companies! > > I just chopped down my 120 year old tree and had a massive bonfire. > And you were still more environmentally friendly than Al Gore, at the fastest pace you could cut trees you can't compete with Gore who pays an army of people to do his bidding in the race to release carbon. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:36:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:36:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Why do cloud shapes resemble animals? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aren't computer models great, if you don't know how something works - like clouds - you can simply ignore them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:48:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:48:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Just how much would the earths surface heat up at 1.6 W/m^2 ? References: <1187767394.743903.207370@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187785966.482554.5050@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187785966.482554.5050@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Matt you remind me of some of my failed > statistics students. The Buddha said > that it is easier to fill an empty glass > than a full one. And you, Matt, are > quite full of yourself. > That reminds me of the guy that created FEDERAL EXPRESS... What does his professor say about him today? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 09:51:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:51:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Do global warmists cheer for big storms? References: <1187730311.220820.291430@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187768257.387488.258220@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Fran wrote: >> On Aug 22, 7:05 am, Tunderbar wrote: >>> http://info.detnews.com/weblog/index.cfm?blogid=10371 >>> >>> Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 3:42 PM >>> >>> Manny Lopez >>> >>> Do global warmists cheer for big storms? >>> > Yeah, we already know that AGW is the direct and only possible > cause for all hurricanes, heatwaves, rain, snow, blizzards and > record cold. > AGW= Al Gore Warming? Anthropology suggests intelligent thought. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 10:15:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:15:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Judge orders White House to produce global warming reports References: <1187788749.786278.325250@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187791832.541427.238970@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187791832.541427.238970@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 22, 8:54 am, "Hillary Rotten Clinton" DNC . com> wrote: >> Norway's Moose Population in Trouble for Belching >> The poor old Scandinavian moose is now being blamed for climate change, with >> researchers in Norway claiming that a grown moose can produce 2,100 kilos of >> methane a year -- equivalent to the CO2 output resulting from a 13,000 >> kilometer car journey.Norway is concerned that its national animal, the >> moose, is harming the climate by emitting an estimated 2,100 kilos of carbon >> dioxide a year through its belching and farting. >> >> Norwegian newspapers, citing research from Norway's technical university, >> said a motorist would have to drive 13,000 kilometers in a car to emit as >> much CO2 as a moose does in a year. >> >> Bacteria in a moose's stomach create methane gas which is considered even >> more destructive to the environment than carbon dioxide gas. Cows pose the >> same problem (more...). >> >> Norway has some 120,000 moose but an estimated 35,000 are expected to be >> killed in this year's moose hunting season, which starts on September 25, >> Norwegian newspaper >> >> http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,501145,00.html > > We are going to have to kill the animals to save the animals from the > animal-caused, co2-related, global warming that will kill the animals > if we don't kill the animals. > The Earth is infected with life, maybe we can save it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 10:40:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:40:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GLOBAL WARMING ANIMATION References: <1186085068.245369.228770@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 00:19:28 -0400, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" > sayd the following: > >> "Crackles McFarly" wrote >>> This SAME level of increase, in fact DOUBLE THIS INCREASE, has been >>> seen on Earth and no large level Human extinction occurred. >> That's amazing because Humans didn't exist when temperatures were higher >> than they are today. >> >> You like pulling your factoids out of your ass I see. >> >> Typical KKKonservative. >> >> > > > Why is it every time you don't agree with the Global Warming panic > you're labeled a Conservative? I've NEVER voted for a Republican so > how does my opinion on Global Warming suddenly FORCE me to be one? > > The Algorithm used to calculate Democratic/Democrats behavior is flawed. The Paradox is that if you are an anomaly in the Democrat party of tolerance, they preach diversity - and yet are diversity impaired, in their own politics. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 11:21:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:21:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Beam Me UP...->>Re: Please stop deleting my replies, References: <1187158632.865350.14360@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Please stop deleting my replies, especially after you >> post a message challenging me for a response. >> > You must have set the filter to delete your own posts after reading one > and realizing that who ever wrote it was nuts... > Maybe your Bi-Polar, send yourself an insult and see if you get mad. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 11:42:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:42:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: PETA Caused Global Warming>>>>Re: Anti-hunting groups contribute to GW References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit birdog wrote: > GLOBAL WARMING CAUSE REVEALED! > > > > > > SPIEGEL ONLINE - August 21, 2007, 05:40 PM > URL: http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,501145,00.html > > GLOBAL WARMING FEARS > Norway's Moose Population in Trouble for Belching > The poor old Scandinavian moose is now being blamed for climate change, with > researchers in Norway claiming that a grown moose can produce 2,100 kilos of > methane a year -- equivalent to the CO2 output resulting from a 13,000 > kilometer car journey. > > So PETA is worse than the BIG OIL like EXXON when it comes to GLOBAL WARMING, The CEO of PETA is a BAD guy Like the CEO of Exxon? Will Al Gore help Legislate more REGULATIONS on PETA... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 18:27:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:27:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: Not a tropical storm either References: <1187200937.082018.82320@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46c3b76e$0$31089$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46c7775c$0$31094$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <9lFyi.272$k22.18@read2.cgocable.net> <46cb0d25$0$31091$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <30Jyi.26$gs5.3@newsfe05.lga> <46cb503d$0$31075$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46cc69c9$0$31089$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46cc69c9$0$31089$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > > "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote > in message news:hkOyi.388$tx1.296@read1.cgocable.net... >> >> "Harley" wrote >>> Don't you think Rush is at LEAST as credible as Al Gore? >> >> "Smoking isn't addictive." - Rush Limbaugh >> "Smoking doesn't cause cancer." - Rush Limbaugh >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOIspYHik2g > > Then why doesn't everyone who smokes get cancer, and why do people who > don't smoke get lung cancer? Everyone that gets cancer has been subjected to sunlight, must be that sunlight causes cancer... Same logic that gets used on GW, use faulty/imaginary/circumstantial data showing warming and then find something that might correlate and declare it as fact before total understanding of the subject. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 18:44:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:44:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: U.S. Record Temperatures, 20 August 2007 References: <1187799888.904278.157270@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187806662.108787.164300@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187806662.108787.164300@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 22, 10:46 am, Paul Hyett wrote: >> In alt.global-warming on Wed, 22 Aug 2007, kingssm...@hotmail.com wrote >> >>> well shoot if global warming is effecting america then the rightards >>> have to believe it >> Since when was AGW scepticism a right-wing thing? > > Another good point Paul, or half a good point. > Since when has mainstream AGW science been a > left-wing thing? Since the left grabbed it as a way to pass laws and us it like they use Politically correctness. Al Gore (lefty), Hollywood (lefties), The Green (Lefties), just look at the odds of it being supported so consistently by Liberals. Use all that GW scientific methodology that you claim to possess. It's a consensus among the Left. In short, it's useful to the left. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 18:53:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:53:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Judge orders White House to produce global warming reports References: <1187788749.786278.325250@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187799095.540542.67110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187806029.689243.85090@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187806029.689243.85090@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 22, 9:11 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> On Aug 22, 6:19 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> >>> Judge orders White House to produce global warming reports >>> By TERENCE CHEA, in the FresnoBee >>> 08/21/07 18:26:38 >>> A federal judge Tuesday ordered the Bush administration to issue two >>> scientific reports on global warming, siding with environmentalists >>> who sued the White House for failing to produce the documents. >>> U.S. District Court Judge Saundra Armstrong ruled that the Bush >>> administration had violated a 1990 law when it failed to meet >>> deadlines for an updated U.S. climate change research plan and impact >>> assessment. >> Bush should ignore it. Make them prove that CO2 is a polutant. >> > Denky, you're on to something here. > (Or is that just on something?) > > If there were a proof that global warming theory > was wrong, or that it was a hoax, or that CO2 was > not a pollutant, then why didn't Bush and lackeys > use that in this court case? Therefore, as far > as the Bush administration knows, global warming > theory is correct, it is not a hoax, and CO2 is a > pollutant. How can they prove it wrong - it's never been proved right, there is a difference between knowing it's a hoax and having legal proof that can be adjudicated. If you toss out the "hoax" bomb in court and then don't prove it, you may lend credence to a lie. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 19:04:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:04:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: If the atmosphere... References: <1187799550.491955.273430@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187800568.939046.28770@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187810926.942618.277930@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187815543.949902.184830@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187819262.456313.164590@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187819938.462794.14570@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Habr wrote: > wrote in message > news:1187819938.462794.14570@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>> Just that, it is a source of energy for the earth. If the only (proximate) source of >>> energy for the earth were the sun the earth would be about 30 degrees C cooler than it > is. >> A source would be something that produces energy. You mean a >> moderator perhaps? Please explain the 168 and 342. >> >> >> > > The surface of the Earth is warmer than it would be in the absence of an atmosphere > because it receives energy from two sources: the Sun and the atmosphere. > > On average on the surface of the face of the earth the radiation from the sun is about 168 > watts per square meter, this means that for the surface and near surface air temperatures > to be what they are about 342 watts per square meter is needed. that 342 watts per square > meter comes from the atmosphere. Won't the Moon's gravitational effect produce energy, it causes tidal movement that takes energy to do. We get Gama Bursts that also come from beyond our solar system. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 22 21:36:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:36:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <475cd5e7.721306604@news.giganews.com> <1187829867.537548.297660@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187829867.537548.297660@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit spammer wrote: > It rained a little where I live yesterday. Must be global warming. > GW caused it to be sunny here, I'm thinking it'll cause it to be dark too. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 12:04:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:04:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Signs of a Warming World? Drought Returns to New South Wales, Australia References: <1187557482.876052.158170@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187570765.806712.219470@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1187571795.647381.21410@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46c8ffdd$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46c937e4$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46c93eed@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1187625423.628483.299950@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1187637216.343199.237330@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <7Unyi.19372$Lu.13389@bignews8.bellsouth.net> <1187833986.915327.101190@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187833986.915327.101190@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 20, 5:41 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> john fernbach wrote: >>> On Aug 20, 11:57 am, "(David P.)" wrote: >>>> "Bonzo" wrote: >>>>> Too much alarmism from those pushing their hidden agenda. >>>> 1. What will the world be like with the projected human >>>> population of 9 or 10 billion? >>>> 2. Is it fair to inflict a 50 percent increase in population >>>> on our descendants? >>>> . >>>> . >>> Like many environmentalists, I think addressing world population >>> growth is urgently necessary. As this poster implies, a 50% increase >>> in population is likely to make problems like global climate change >>> MUCH, much worse. >> HHHHmmmmmm... It's addressed every day and environmentalists try to stop >> the natural process. NO SMOKING, WEAR~ SEAT BELTS it's the law... >> Life's a bitch. Given that you've addressed this already, the only other >> thing is birth, just how will you address it. There is only one option >> there. >> >> So given all the discussion about "population" what is the solution? It >> takes no discussion to see the only solution you're proposing. >> > I don't understand the point you're trying to make here, Doggie. And > > To answer what I think your point is -- I don't normally write about > solutions for population growth in this news group, which is focused > on climate change. You inferred that Population is a problem, does it contribute to global warming or not? > However, there are several routes that more or less mainstream > environmentalists have identified for bringing down population growth > rates > They include: > > (a) trying to raise Third World living standards, and bringing people > into a somewhat more industrialized economy, since peasant families > tend to have more children. NAFTA GATT Been there done that... > > (b) paradoxically enough, reducing infant mortality rates and > childhood mortality rates is also likely to have some effect on > bringing family sizes down, especially in poor Third World > countries. I said that. > In societies where large numbers of babies die at birth or before the > age of 5, people tend to have more children in hopes of some of them > survivng. Remove the uncertainty about survival, give people greater > assurance that their offspring will survive into adulthood, and > they're likely to opt for fewer children. > > (c) Along with bringing down infant mortality rates, creating workable > sytems to provide old age pensions to poor people is also important. > helping terminal patients live another week? > In all too many poor societies, people need to rely on their children > to support them in old age, and due to pervasive sexism they > especially need to rely on their sons. The result is that many people > have very large families in hopes of ensuring that they will have sons > who survive long enough to join the work force.l > One son will give a place to live, twelve sons might allow you to live like a king > Make it easier for old people to survive on their own, and reduce > economic inequalities based on sex, and people are likely to feel > freer to have fewer children and fewer sons. Less government, more money will mean more for retirement. > (d) Empowering women, both legally and economically, so that they can > control their own reproductive behavior is also important. Similarly > with providing greater access to education for women. Educated and: > empowered women are likely to have fewer children than uneducated > women who are more under the control of men. Government getting out of peoples lives, people do what it takes to survive, women don't need education to survive. Why not promote Gay and Lesbian behavior, teach it in school, gay lovers produce no offspring. Is this the education? > (e) Providing women with legal, cheap and easily accessible birth > control methods is important, too. Then your blaming women and their lack of restraint for our plight? > (f) In many Third World countries and in many First World countries > that have had success in bringing down average fertility rates, > governments also have provided access to legal abortion. Examples > include Japan, Taiwan, and several other "Asian Tiger" economies that > have rather low birth rates and rather booming economies. Do these countries import or allow immigrants, this just takes the over population of one country into the host. Then the immigrants original country just over populates again in a generation or two, and those immigrants in the new country start the overpopulation cycle again. > =============== > > Most of these "solutions" to global population growth have relatively > little to do with control over GW, I think. Except for (a), the one > about getting peasant families off the farms and into the cities where > they get involved in the market economy and enjoy rising incomes. Do farmers cause GW more than a city dweller? I thought the GWers said it was industrialization and therefore cities that cause the surplus CO2. > > As the defenders of global capitalism often point out, this factor in > bringing down excessive fertility rates has historically been > associated with economic growth, and I'm sure you guys can make the > case that it also depends on fossil fuel consumption. > > However, rising Third World incomes powered by renewable energy or > nuclear energy would work just as well. And increased reliance on > nuclear power also might expose some people to radiation and make them > sterile -- a nasty route to bringing down birth rates, but maybe an > effective one. > NUKE 'em We did that in Japan, one of the countries you mentioned had lower births. We also nuked the USA in the south west. > ========= > Having written all this, I imagine you want to associate me with Deep > Ecology extremists who see virtually all environmental problems as > stemming from population growth, and who want to see an 80% reduction > in human numbers as the only real solution to ecological crisis. > If your calling for GOVERNMENT intervention into personal human rights, to inflict your will on someone else by use of government then yes you'd be an eco nut. Just as if you believe government laws should be used to have us live under Muslim or Circle of life or Taoism.... your a religious nut. > Some of these Deep Ecology folks may well want to choke off growth in > energy consumption as a way of halting economic growth and starving > people to death. But personally, I think that approach to > environmentalism is evil, and not likely to be politically effective, > either. > > What makes more sense is to work for reductions in the birth rate by > other means, and to tackle GW as a problem in its own right -- which > it is. > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 12:22:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:22:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <8d6zi.40$_K3.39@newsfe04.lga> <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit oldfrogster@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 22, 10:24 pm, kT wrote: >> Scott Hedrick wrote: >>>> On Aug 23, 12:47 am, "Jonathan" wrote: >>>>> Just another global warming 'anecdote' that seems to happen >>>>> all too regularly these days. >>> Just like New York's 59 degrees- in August. >> Things like that are bound to happen with huge amounts of fresh water >> ice melt entering into the North Atlantic basin from above, disrupting >> well established salinity and temperature profiles and fluctuations. >> >> I mean really, what the fuck do you expect to happen when a planet's >> atmospheric carbon dioxide budget is spiked well beyond any recent >> chronological fluctuations, and still rising at a precipitous rate. >> >> -- >> Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html > > I be an old Frog (51) and have lived in Fl most of my life. My > parents also lived here most of their lives (and their parents and > theirs to btw) so I sorta have a near genetic thang about hurricanes. > If y'all think there is anything abnormal about the recent years, you > have serious long term memory problems. I remember strong hurricanes > from my childhood. My parents talk about hurricanes in theirs and so > on. There is NOTHING odd about recent years except for the LACK of > hurricanes. As far as all the damage, REAL Florida natives have > better sense than to build on the beach but transplants dont know any > better so they build million dollar condos there and then complain whn > the get destroyed, Gee, how dis that happen, must be global warming. Easier to blame everyone else than to admit their own stupidity. You would remember "Donna" in 58-59 me too. we had a nice slow 20 - 30 years till "Andrew" trashed my birth right. Build in a tornado alley or on a flood plane or hurricane zone or earthquake belt, better listen to the experienced. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 12:36:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:36:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies.current-films,alt.global-warming,can.politics Subject: Re: "The 11th Hour" DiCaprio as big an idiot as Michael Moore References: <1186677849.770159.125070@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1187789294.153616.239020@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <69KdnY5-9vgd5FHbnZ2dnUVZ_qelnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dersu Uzala wrote: > In article , noemail@scam.com > says... >> On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:59:28 -0500, none@isp.com (Dersu Uzala) wrote: >> >>>>>> The film is another one-sided envirorant, FILLED with errors and >>>>>> flawed conclusions. Where do these movie-makers think they have the >>>>>> right to infect the population with their lies? I despise >>>>>> environmentalists, mostly because they'll killed more people than >>>>>> anyone except Mao, Stalin and Hitler with their ill-conceived ideas. >>>>> k00k-a-d00dle-d000000!!!!! >>> "Where do these movie-makers think they have th right to infect the > population >>> with their lies?" >>> >>> >>> Amendment I >>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or >>> prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, > or >>> of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to >>> petition the government for a redress of grievances. >>> >>> >>> In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an >>> assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying >>> the news in the United States. >> >> And Moore has taken full advantage. >> > And Fox News. > "Fair and Balanced" my ass. The solgan reminds me of a local car dealer, his > ads always trumpet "you can trust Ira". 'Scuse me, but anyone that repeatedly > claims to be trustworthy is immediately suspect to me. > So where do you stand on someone caught with their pants down in the middle of a lie like Clinton? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 12:59:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: CO2 causing insanity>>>>Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <8d6zi.40$_K3.39@newsfe04.lga> <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187877596.760650.294030@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187877596.760650.294030@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Aug 22, 9:52 pm, oldfrogs...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Aug 22, 10:24 pm, kT wrote: >> >> >> >>> Scott Hedrick wrote: >>>>> On Aug 23, 12:47 am, "Jonathan" wrote: >>>>>> Just another global warming 'anecdote' that seems to happen >>>>>> all too regularly these days. >>>> Just like New York's 59 degrees- in August. >>> Things like that are bound to happen with huge amounts of fresh water >>> ice melt entering into the North Atlantic basin from above, disrupting >>> well established salinity and temperature profiles and fluctuations. >>> I mean really, what the fuck do you expect to happen when a planet's >>> atmospheric carbon dioxide budget is spiked well beyond any recent >>> chronological fluctuations, and still rising at a precipitous rate. > >> I be an old Frog (51) and have lived in Fl most of my life. > > Ignorant American rednecks like you are all that is wrong with > America. The problem with America is that it's full of Americans, I see your point. Step away from the beer, your last brain cell is screaming for intervention. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 13:35:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:35:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: CO2 causing insanity>>>>Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <8d6zi.40$_K3.39@newsfe04.lga> <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187877596.760650.294030@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 9:52 pm, oldfrogs...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Aug 22, 10:24 pm, kT wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Scott Hedrick wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 23, 12:47 am, "Jonathan" wrote: >>>>>>>> Just another global warming 'anecdote' that seems to happen >>>>>>>> all too regularly these days. >>>>>> Just like New York's 59 degrees- in August. >>>>> Things like that are bound to happen with huge amounts of fresh water >>>>> ice melt entering into the North Atlantic basin from above, disrupting >>>>> well established salinity and temperature profiles and fluctuations. >>>>> I mean really, what the fuck do you expect to happen when a planet's >>>>> atmospheric carbon dioxide budget is spiked well beyond any recent >>>>> chronological fluctuations, and still rising at a precipitous rate. >>> >>>> I be an old Frog (51) and have lived in Fl most of my life. >>> >>> Ignorant American rednecks like you are all that is wrong with >>> America. >> >> The problem with America is that it's full of Americans, I see your >> point. >> >> Step away from the beer, your last brain cell is screaming for >> intervention. > > I don't drink rocket fuel. > Then maybe you better start. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:04:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:04:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: CO2 causing insanity>>>>Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <8d6zi.40$_K3.39@newsfe04.lga> <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187877596.760650.294030@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Captain Compassion wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:59:20 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> kT wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 9:52 pm, oldfrogs...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Aug 22, 10:24 pm, kT wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Scott Hedrick wrote: >>>>>>> On Aug 23, 12:47 am, "Jonathan" wrote: >>>>>>>> Just another global warming 'anecdote' that seems to happen >>>>>>>> all too regularly these days. >>>>>> Just like New York's 59 degrees- in August. >>>>> Things like that are bound to happen with huge amounts of fresh water >>>>> ice melt entering into the North Atlantic basin from above, disrupting >>>>> well established salinity and temperature profiles and fluctuations. >>>>> I mean really, what the fuck do you expect to happen when a planet's >>>>> atmospheric carbon dioxide budget is spiked well beyond any recent >>>>> chronological fluctuations, and still rising at a precipitous rate. >>>> I be an old Frog (51) and have lived in Fl most of my life. >>> Ignorant American rednecks like you are all that is wrong with >>> America. >> The problem with America is that it's full of Americans, I see your point. >> >> Step away from the beer, your last brain cell is screaming for intervention. > > So the theory is that an increase of atmospheric CO2 from 280 PPM to > 380 PPM causes certain segments of the population to go insane? Will > there ever be a cure for the leftist gene? > > It's terminal, but on the bright side, they won't be producing any Co2 to kill he planet once they perish. So they actually get their wish in the end. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:13:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:13:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Sever 13 aka. Ouroboros Rex References: <1187878991.040999.121560@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187891908.456244.221820@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187891908.456244.221820@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 23, 12:13 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >> "Tunderbar" wrote in message >> >> news:1187878991.040999.121560@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> >> >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/ouroborosrex1/XDayXPics >>> Server 13 is a friggin' useless hippie. He role-plays in a farcical >>> little made-up church called Church of the SubGenius (now THAT is >>> irony). >>> http://picasaweb.google.com/ouroborosrex1/XDayXPics/photo#50887667454... >>> He's is a fat-assed, grey-bearded, ill-educated, in-bred wannabe >>> hippie. >>> He fancies himself a musician but he only plays some semblance of a >>> keyboard. Have you heard the old musicians joke about how many >>> musicians does it take to change a light bulb? None, but the >>> keyboardist can change it with his spare hand. Even musicians consider >>> keyboardists to not be real musicians. >>> Here is more about the touchy-feely nonsensical pagan hippie event >>> they call X-Day. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Day_(Church_of_the_SubGenius) >>> I suspect it's just a reason for hippies to get together and do drugs >>> and party. Hippies must be the most self-absorbed, useless-to-mankind, >>> bunch of low-intellect waste of skins there are on this planet. >>> Here is the kicker. The man is so shamed by his real self, he goes by >>> the silly name of Ouroboros Rex. I guess Mark isn't cool enough >>> amongst his peers that he has to pretend to be someone else, even in >>> the real world. >>> Ouroboros is a symbol showing a snake eating itself from the ass end. >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros >>> And he fancies himself as Rex (King), So the guy calls himself the >>> King of the Ass Eaters. Sounds right to me. >>> No wonder the twit posts under an anonymous name. >> As usual, tundy lies, and lies, and lies, and lies.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.social-security-disability/tree/browse_frm/month/2001-03?_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.social-security-disability%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2001-03%3F& > > Have you caught up on your child support or are you a failure in the > eyes of our child AND your ex-wife? Sounds like you are an all-around > failure. > Courts, Lawyers and ex`wives intend that they make you a failure. You would be living up to their expectations. The ex wants to crush you and the lawyer has failed if they didn't take you for everything and then some. The Courts need more so they can receive more. If you don't at least appear to be destitute, then no one is happy. Wake up and smell the coffee. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:16:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:15:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Sever 13 aka. Ouroboros Rex References: <1187878991.040999.121560@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187879719.580279.240110@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <46cdcdee$0$502$815e3792@news.qwest.net> In-Reply-To: <46cdcdee$0$502$815e3792@news.qwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Luigi wrote: > anonymous name. >> More about Server 13: >> >> Mark Bee >> >> c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu >> >> http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/ >> >> The primary mission of the Imaging Technology Group (ITG) is to >> provide state-of-the-art imaging facilities for researchers at the >> Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology and University >> of Illinois. This service mission is accomplished through two >> facilities: the Microscopy Suite and the Visualization, Media, and >> Imaging Laboratory (VMIL). >> >> http://www.itg.uiuc.edu/people/cbee/cbee1.htm >> >> > > Why anyone would use their real e-mail address to troll a usenet group is > beyond me. Mark, what would your boss say if he found out you posted over > 1500 messages since May? Mostly during working hours? > > Mark is the boss -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:50:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:50:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Signs of a Warming World? Drought Returns to New South Wales, Australia References: <1187557482.876052.158170@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187570765.806712.219470@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1187571795.647381.21410@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46c8ffdd$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46c937e4$0$7087$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46c93eed@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1187625423.628483.299950@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1187637216.343199.237330@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <7Unyi.19372$Lu.13389@bignews8.bellsouth.net> <1187833986.915327.101190@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1187894525.506512.223760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187894525.506512.223760@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit (David P.) wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> NUKE 'em > > It would be more equitable having each individual fight > the flu on his own, rather than waste resources having > armies fight each other over resources. By stopping > the suppression of influenza, everyone could be on > the front lines, instead of just a few good men. > .. > .. > -- That's how owls and polar bears do it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:51:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:51:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Sever 13 aka. Ouroboros Rex References: <1187878991.040999.121560@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1187891908.456244.221820@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187894105.686266.318360@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187894105.686266.318360@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 23, 1:13 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Aug 23, 12:13 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >>>> "Tunderbar" wrote in message >>>> news:1187878991.040999.121560@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com... >>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/ouroborosrex1/XDayXPics >>>>> Server 13 is a friggin' useless hippie. He role-plays in a farcical >>>>> little made-up church called Church of the SubGenius (now THAT is >>>>> irony). >>>>> http://picasaweb.google.com/ouroborosrex1/XDayXPics/photo#50887667454... >>>>> He's is a fat-assed, grey-bearded, ill-educated, in-bred wannabe >>>>> hippie. >>>>> He fancies himself a musician but he only plays some semblance of a >>>>> keyboard. Have you heard the old musicians joke about how many >>>>> musicians does it take to change a light bulb? None, but the >>>>> keyboardist can change it with his spare hand. Even musicians consider >>>>> keyboardists to not be real musicians. >>>>> Here is more about the touchy-feely nonsensical pagan hippie event >>>>> they call X-Day. >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Day_(Church_of_the_SubGenius) >>>>> I suspect it's just a reason for hippies to get together and do drugs >>>>> and party. Hippies must be the most self-absorbed, useless-to-mankind, >>>>> bunch of low-intellect waste of skins there are on this planet. >>>>> Here is the kicker. The man is so shamed by his real self, he goes by >>>>> the silly name of Ouroboros Rex. I guess Mark isn't cool enough >>>>> amongst his peers that he has to pretend to be someone else, even in >>>>> the real world. >>>>> Ouroboros is a symbol showing a snake eating itself from the ass end. >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros >>>>> And he fancies himself as Rex (King), So the guy calls himself the >>>>> King of the Ass Eaters. Sounds right to me. >>>>> No wonder the twit posts under an anonymous name. >>>> As usual, tundy lies, and lies, and lies, and lies.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> http://groups.google.fr/group/alt.social-security-disability/tree/bro... >>> Have you caught up on your child support or are you a failure in the >>> eyes of our child AND your ex-wife? Sounds like you are an all-around >>> failure. >> Courts, Lawyers and ex`wives intend that they make you a failure. You >> would be living up to their expectations. >> >> The ex wants to crush you and the lawyer has failed if they didn't take >> you for everything and then some. The Courts need more so they can >> receive more. >> >> If you don't at least appear to be destitute, then no one is happy. >> >> Wake up and smell the coffee. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >> times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Yeah.... your failures are always the others guys fault... aren't they? > I set the bar low so I'm never let down. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:55:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:55:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Visual graph of North England temperature disproving Global Warming References: <1187879378.773366.291830@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "matt_sykes" wrote in message > news:1187879378.773366.291830@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> http://diderot.free.fr/images/temp.gif >> >> Spot the trend. I cant see anything. > > Why, are you blind? dislodge your head first. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 14:57:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:57:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Judge orders White House to produce global warming reports References: <1187788749.786278.325250@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187799095.540542.67110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187806029.689243.85090@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187893250.259830.248090@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187893250.259830.248090@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 22, 3:53 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 9:11 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> On Aug 22, 6:19 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >>>>> Judge orders White House to produce global warming reports >>>>> By TERENCE CHEA, in the FresnoBee >>>>> 08/21/07 18:26:38 >>>>> A federal judge Tuesday ordered the Bush administration to issue two >>>>> scientific reports on global warming, siding with environmentalists >>>>> who sued the White House for failing to produce the documents. >>>>> U.S. District Court Judge Saundra Armstrong ruled that the Bush >>>>> administration had violated a 1990 law when it failed to meet >>>>> deadlines for an updated U.S. climate change research plan and impact >>>>> assessment. >>>> Bush should ignore it. Make them prove that CO2 is a polutant. >>> Denky, you're on to something here. >>> (Or is that just on something?) >>> If there were a proof that global warming theory >>> was wrong, or that it was a hoax, or that CO2 was >>> not a pollutant, then why didn't Bush and lackeys >>> use that in this court case? Therefore, as far >>> as the Bush administration knows, global warming >>> theory is correct, it is not a hoax, and CO2 is a >>> pollutant. >> How can they prove it wrong - it's never been proved right, there is a >> difference between knowing it's a hoax and having legal proof that can >> be adjudicated. > > Using the same approach one might argue that since we have no evidence > that bigfoot doesn't exists that, therefore, we are obligated to > assume it does. > > C'mon we know he's out there. Prove he isn't. I'll wait. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 23 15:23:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:23:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: How many politicians, scientists, bureaucrats, etc earn their living off GW? References: <1187888530.204998.248650@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heerza Goodwin wrote: > How many global-warming disbelievers does it take to change a lightbulb? > I need to set up the proper chain of events so I will need at least three assistants, one to contact the *DNR* to initiate a study and track the progress and chart the three month project, one to evaluate the study and and conduct quality control. Is this Normal wear and tear or an upgrade? Will it be paid by insurance or per the owner(more insurance paperwork will require another assistant). Will this be an energy saver light bulb? Do we need to have the *HAZMAT* on stand by for mercury contamination? Are these light bulbs up a ladder and do we need *OSHA* to regulate the process and if so where do I call for the documentation? Is this light bulb in a Nuclear plant or government office, if so then I'll need to contact the *NRC* or *DOD* or appropriate agency for clearance and procedures and request authorization. Is this a green project? I need to contact *Al Gore* to purchase some *carbon offsets* to keep the project green? OR We could get a Global Warming true believer to solve the problem, except he/she wouldn't notice the problem, he/she'd just sit in the dark like they usually do. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:08:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:08:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: CO2 causing insanity>>>>Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <1187829034.193808.103650@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <8d6zi.40$_K3.39@newsfe04.lga> <1187837528.584656.231980@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187877596.760650.294030@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4csrc3pv8m1a0vv3tfivabbldo2kb3tu0d@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <4csrc3pv8m1a0vv3tfivabbldo2kb3tu0d@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OM wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:35:56 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >>> I don't drink rocket fuel. >>> >> Then maybe you better start. > > ....I've a better idea. Elfritz is a confirmed neo-Nazi, anti-semitic > troll. File a complaint with his ISP, then toss the goosestepping > dograper into your killfile and put him out of our misery. > > Please. > > OM just pulling his leg, didn't want to tear it off and beat him to death with it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:16:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:16:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: CO2 insanity strikes again>>>Re: the global warming alarmist agenda in a nutshell References: <1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187990132.369914.74960@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187993515.848223.259520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187993515.848223.259520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 24, 5:15 pm, Tunderbar wrote: > >> I'll try to dumb this down a wee bit "Reverend". If someone quotes >> from a leftwing source material that shows motive or agenda, it is to >> illustrate that motive or agenda. It isn't showing support. > > Tunderbar - You're a smart guy, I think. And as a smart guy, you have > to realize that when a "leftwing source" supports some goal or cause > -- say, curbs on global climate change -- this doesn't show that > EVERYONE who wants to control climate change is a "leftist." > Maybe they think they're middle of the road if you take their Global politics into account, ad some right leanings to the Left tendencies and they're a moderate? The Co2 is causing brain farts in the Lefties. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:25:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:25:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: CO2 insanity spreads >>>Re: How many politicians, scientists, bureaucrats, etc earn their living off GW? References: <1187888530.204998.248650@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heerza Goodwin wrote: > How many global-warming disbelievers does it take to change a lightbulb? > I need to set up the proper chain of events so I will need at least three assistants, one to contact the *DNR* to initiate a study and track the progress and chart the three month project, one to evaluate the study and and conduct quality control. Is this Normal wear and tear or an upgrade? Will it be paid by insurance or per the owner(more insurance paperwork will require another assistant). Will this be an energy saver light bulb? Do we need to have the *HAZMAT* on stand by for mercury contamination? Are these light bulbs up a ladder and do we need *OSHA* to regulate the process and if so where do I call for the documentation? Is this light bulb in a Nuclear plant or government office, if so then I'll need to contact the *NRC* or *DOD* or appropriate agency for clearance and procedures and request authorization. Is this a green project? I need to contact *Al Gore* to purchase some *carbon offsets* to keep the project green? OR We could get a Global Warming true believer to solve the problem, except he/she wouldn't notice the problem, he/she'd just sit in the dark like they usually do. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:29:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:29:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: the global warming alarmist agenda in a nutshell References: <1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187988931.826758.141070@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187993399.106170.47570@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187993399.106170.47570@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chemist wrote: > On Aug 24, 9:55 pm, Roger Coppock > You are among the deluded you realise it eventually. > > Your ruining the one thing delusions have going for them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:32:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:32:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming is a FrauD!!! References: <1187984623.300057.127560@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Tom" wrote in message > news:1187984623.300057.127560@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> AGW is a fraud because the Earth is flat. The Greeks screwed up the >> calculation by assuming the rays from the sun were parallel. The >> Chinese got the calculation right by assuming the Earth was flat and >> calculating the distance to the Sun. >> >> The Sun is much closer than the socialist scientists claim, that's the >> reason that the globe is warming, it has nothing to to with CO2. CO2 >> does not exists because atoms can't touch. >> >> Gore faked the photos of the round earth to cover up the true cause of >> global warming. He used his own thick glasses to get that fish eye >> effect. >> >> Nobody can prove I am wrong. > > "I KNEW it! EARTH babies come from SPACE!!" -- Invader ZIM Does anybody want to prove him wrong? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:39:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:39:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming is a FrauD!!! References: <1187984623.300057.127560@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187993188.371517.242010@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187993188.371517.242010@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chemist wrote: > On Aug 24, 8:43 pm, Tom wrote: >> AGW is a fraud because the Earth is flat. The Greeks screwed up the >> >> Nobody can prove I am wrong. > > What have astronauts done or is all a plot > I see he invoked the Bart Simpson defense... Very good choice. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:40:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:40:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environment Canada's Climate Change Fiasco References: <1187967683.193432.210160@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <%vHzi.90116$rX4.17573@pd7urf2no> <1187990561.158978.61190@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187990561.158978.61190@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 24, 3:50 pm, "Green Turtle" > wrote: >> "Tunderbar" wrote in message >> >> Not the slightest surprise, as these people would regulate and destroy a >> lemonade stand run by a 10 year old. >> >> Worse, at the end of the day in their quest to be political correct, they >> actually waste huge amounts of money that could feed the poor, or really be >> used to help keep the environment clean. >> >> as it is now, this type of socialized view means we don't even get the >> weather information we need to run an advanced western economy, let alone >> warn of flooding. >> >> Socialism at it finest.... >> >> Super Turtle > > I was wondering why weather forecasts are so far off most of the time. > They've taken resources away from weather forecasting and put it in > climate modelling. Damned glad that my life doesn't depend of weather > forecasts, unlike fishermen, airplane crews, winter road workers, etc. > Just keep the Sun Block in the pocket of your Rain Coat. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:43:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:43:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: the global warming alarmist agenda in a nutshell References: <1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187990132.369914.74960@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1187990132.369914.74960@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 24, 1:48 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >> "Tunderbar" wrote in message >> >> news:1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com... >> >>> http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=495 >> lol Your politics are changing by the minute! > > I'll try to dumb this down a wee bit "Reverend". Can you set that "dumb down ray" knob on your boilerplate space ship for max. and give'em hell. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 19:52:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:52:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global warming is a FrauD!!! References: <1187984623.300057.127560@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Tom" wrote in message > news:1187984623.300057.127560@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> AGW is a fraud because the Earth is flat. The Greeks screwed up the >> calculation by assuming the rays from the sun were parallel. The >> Chinese got the calculation right by assuming the Earth was flat and >> calculating the distance to the Sun. >> >> The Sun is much closer than the socialist scientists claim, that's the >> reason that the globe is warming, it has nothing to to with CO2. CO2 >> does not exists because atoms can't touch. >> >> Gore faked the photos of the round earth to cover up the true cause of >> global warming. He used his own thick glasses to get that fish eye >> effect. >> >> Nobody can prove I am wrong. > > "I KNEW it! EARTH babies come from SPACE!!" -- Invader ZIM Space babies come from Liberals in Hollywood? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 24 21:35:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:35:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change References: <1187895889.912783.297140@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188003427.740568.129620@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188003427.740568.129620@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Aug 25, 10:40 am, The_Sage wrote: > > > > >>> Because there are many entrenched interests - including oil companies >>> and oil producing nations - which would stand to lose a lot of money >>> if action were taken to reduce the amount of carbon dioxide pumped >>> into the atmosphere, a lot of effort and money has been put into >>> attempts to discredit the science behind man-made global warming. >> Guess again. Reducing CO2 will drive the price of oil up, making a lot of oil >> barons filthy rich. > > > Are there a lot of dirt poor oil barons? Any? I invested my family fortune in it, I filled up the pick-up truck the other day and now I'm an oil baron and I'm dirty fuel poor. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 25 11:27:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:27:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Lucky For Us The Precautionary Principle Wasn't Invoked Then. Eh? References: <46cfc82a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188049802.220741.271980@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188049802.220741.271980@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John M. wrote: > Just like those lucky, lucky people in Ohio who saved money by > refusing to pay for unecessary flood insurance. Think how much they > saved in 2006, 2005, 2004,......... > Worst in 100 years, think how much they saved over the last 100 years of putting that insurance payment into college and retirement accounts for their children and themselves. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 25 11:30:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:30:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: All Good Christian American Fascists ... References: <46cb6bb0$0$31092$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1188055476.215178.273090@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188055476.215178.273090@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Aug 21, 7:36 pm, "Harley" wrote: > > All good Christian American Fascists get their science from Rush > Limbaugh. > >> Harley: Good stuff, eh? > >> RUSH: Can you get me some more? > The UN sure has science locked up huh, look at all the solution to world problems they came up with, not to mention the scandals they create. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 25 11:44:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:44:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 insanity strikes again>>>Re: the global warming alarmist agenda in a nutshell References: <1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1187990132.369914.74960@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187993515.848223.259520@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188000802.210256.241880@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188000802.210256.241880@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 24, 7:16 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> john fernbach wrote: >>> On Aug 24, 5:15 pm, Tunderbar wrote: > You're crazier than batshit when you attribute "socialist" or even > particularly leftwing beliefs to most people who are concerned about > AGW. But the more that assholes like you claim that GW is a > "socialist" issue, the better chance that the socialist groups have of > persuading the rest of the world that this is the case. Socialist aren't concerned about GW, They're using it and the morons following the Lefties to get their agenda on the charts... You true believers are as dumb as I thought you were. Your Good intentions have been hijacked. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Aug 25 16:37:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:37:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: More from the left on agw References: <1187979426.200372.202850@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Berk wrote: > Server 13 wrote: >> What percentage of the word's population do you figure are Marxists these >> days? >> >> > Anyone who isn't a loyal Fox News viewer. about as many as there are that want someone else to carry their water. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 09:34:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:34:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Hierarchy of Global Warming Denier Rationalizations References: <1187900947.592010.273780@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1188097088.920496.196630@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188097088.920496.196630@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kwag7693@hotmail.com wrote: > On Aug 23, 4:29 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> Hierarchy of Global Warming Denier Rationalizations. >> [Also, known as "Dat old Global Warming Denial Blues.] >> >> Global warming deniers have found it necessary to defend and abandon >> the following series of ideas as scientific information has become >> more compelling. Depending on their depth of understanding of the >> subject deniers may be at any of the following stages: >> >> 1. Global warming isn't happening - so we don't have to do anything. >> You can't fix it if it ain't broke. Basic, simple, logic-101. I can see why you hate that response. >> 2. Global warming is happening, but it's not caused by humanity - so >> we don't have to do anything. If GW~ is happening(it's just a guess so far) there is no credible evidence that we caused it. If you're wrong and we do your bidding and capture CO2 and save the planet from warming... what if nature is supposed be warming and you stopped it, then the natural cycle is interrupted and the "Climate" is altered and we cool too much too fast? Kinda like playing doctor when, you don't know what to do with a stethoscope. >> >> 3. Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, but it may >> be a good thing - so we don't have to do anything. >> If GW~ were to happen, as true believers predict "with their contorted logic" what is so awful, do we need to attack a situation that has positive impact on our daily survival? If the deserts in Africa started blooming into rain forests 50 years ago, would it have needed us to save the desert? >> 4. Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, it is a bad >> thing, but China isn't doing anything - so we don't have to do >> anything. >> IF GW~ were ... So you think the Chinese are stupid for not being as willing to accept GW. >> 5. Global warming is happening, it is caused by humanity, it is a bad >> thing, but even if China does something it's too late for us to do >> anything and it would cost us money - so we don't have to do anything. >> You can destroy our economy and it might be worse for people than some warming. It's a question of which is worse for humanity, warming or 1929 on steroids. >> 6. (There is an hypothesized sixth step, "Global warming was >> happening, it was caused by humanity, it is a very bad thing and we >> should have done something.") >> Possible that it's snowballing out of our control, that would be one consideration that the true believers refuse to consider... Not that smart people believe GW~ is happening, but the interesting thing is that True believers won't entertain the thought that their guess is anything but 100% correct. The idea that it's all over and done with, and nothing can be done intimidates true believers, it's an alternative scenario, and it brings out questioning of the true believers fantasy of saving the world. This is unconscionable blasphemy. The only reason "GW~ Pro choice advocates" asks these questions, is that the GW~ True Believers have only one Plan and are wanting to force it on 100% of us to get their way, just like Democrats in Congress will do anything to get their way. There is no depths that the GW~ers or Socialist in Congress won't sink to, in order to get their way. Their solution is to control our lives by controlling Carbon, well it's getting to the root of our life isn't it, since we're carbon based life forms. Control the Spice... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 09:54:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:54:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: All Good Christian American Fascists ... References: <46cb6bb0$0$31092$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1188055476.215178.273090@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188130252.855770.326060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188130252.855770.326060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Aug 25, 10:30 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> On Aug 21, 7:36 pm, "Harley" wrote: >>> All good Christian American Fascists get their science from Rush >>> Limbaugh. >>>> Harley: Good stuff, eh? >>>> RUSH: Can you get me some more? >> The UN sure has science locked up huh > > Science is generally independent of politics, and generally comes up > with pretty good self correcting models of reality, as evidenced by > the machines we can build that function adequately under the models of > reality with which they were constructed. > > But go ahead, continue to attempt to dodge reality - reality cares > not, and reality can be very harsh to the inattentive, and those who > refuse to learn anything from it. > Two bicycle mechanics created manned flight... All the Schooled and over educated people in governments in the world with Harvard/what-ever educations and a Barn in NC is where it happened. That's how we get to reality. The cure for cancer is supposed to be in the rain Forest, waiting to be discovered, and not cured by the resources of governments. Why then can't the truth in science be hidden in the masses, instead of in the hands of the UN. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 10:05:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:05:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Consensus >>> Congress sucks >>>or Consensus Global warming is real Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Democrats are running this Congress with the lowest rating it's ever had. More Socialist Looser Ideas, just like Global Warming is. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 10:27:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:27:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change References: <1187895889.912783.297140@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188003427.740568.129620@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188019843.810372.308350@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188062006.925022.263420@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188091498.711567.92250@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188107192.835947.303330@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d1207f@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188116553.385188.109590@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188116553.385188.109590@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Aug 26, 4:41 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> "Fran" wrote in message >> >> news:1188107192.835947.303330@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >>> We have much better than that, because unlike the gambler, who reilies >>> on the interplay of unknowable and uncontrollable variables, >>> variables, socialists rely on human collaboration, which has been the >>> driving force of history. >> Huh? Silly me. I always thought that capitalism was the main driver of our >> current prosperity. > > That's only because you're mind-numbingly stupid, and have a poor > memory. I pointed this out within the last week. > Socialist manage to come up with the most effecient ways to commit genocide to squash their opposition or their scapegoats. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 14:40:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:40:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,uk.politics.misc,alt.fan.howard-stern Subject: Re: 911 Gov't Conspiracy CONFIRMED in talk.origins -- Some Call It Treason References: <1188150567.955509.37510@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188150567.955509.37510@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen Horgan wrote: > It is possible that you have the brains of a gerbil. > > http://www.horgan.co.uk > > Gerbil hating speech is not allowed here. Quit insulting them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 14:43:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:43:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: MOM! It isn't FAIR. CHINA gets to wreck the global environment -- why can't WE wreck the global environment? References: <1188146322.115615.43590@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188149532.587323.308860@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188149532.587323.308860@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom wrote: > On Aug 26, 1:14 pm, Rich wrote: >> john fernbach wrote: >>> And over in China, parents let their kids stay up until 4 in the >>> morning doing drugs and having orgies, too! Why can't WE do the same? >> We can. >> >>> Your double standards are MEAN! >> The double standard is that China can emit as much CO2 as they want >> whereas the US is an evil destroyer of worlds for not limiting it's >> CO2 emissions. >> >> This has got to be one of the most stupid things you've posted John. >> And you have no end of excuses for China emitting *MORE* CO2 than the >> US. Face it John, like most so-called environmentalists, you don't >> really give a fuck about the environment, you oppose nations and >> nationalism, except that you have no issue whatsoever with Chinese >> nationalism. Every single standard you hawk is a blatant double >> standard. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Rich > > China knows that the warming is caused by the fact that the sun is > closer than the UN picko scientist claim. They assume the Earth is > flat and triangulate the distance to the sun. > > Only those who believe in the Round-Earth Religion also believe in > global warming. > And those that imagine the earth as a sphere? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 15:52:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:52:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: All Good Christian American Fascists ... References: <46cb6bb0$0$31092$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1188055476.215178.273090@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188130252.855770.326060@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> On Aug 25, 10:30 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> kT wrote: >>>>> On Aug 21, 7:36 pm, "Harley" wrote: >>>>> All good Christian American Fascists get their science from Rush >>>>> Limbaugh. >>>>>> Harley: Good stuff, eh? >>>>>> RUSH: Can you get me some more? >>>> The UN sure has science locked up huh >>> >>> Science is generally independent of politics, and generally comes up >>> with pretty good self correcting models of reality, as evidenced by >>> the machines we can build that function adequately under the models of >>> reality with which they were constructed. >>> >>> But go ahead, continue to attempt to dodge reality - reality cares >>> not, and reality can be very harsh to the inattentive, and those who >>> refuse to learn anything from it. >>> >> >> >> Two bicycle mechanics created manned flight... All the Schooled and >> over educated people in governments in the world with >> Harvard/what-ever educations and a Barn in NC is where it happened. >> >> That's how we get to reality. > > With scientific models and empirical testing in wind tunnels. Yeh, I went to the Smithsonian and there was a wind tunnel. > >> The cure for cancer is supposed to be in the rain Forest, waiting to >> be discovered, and not cured by the resources of governments. Why then >> can't the truth in science be hidden in the masses, instead of in the >> hands of the UN. > > Pssst : Today the super secret password is 'UN'. Pass it on. > The only thing they try to keep secret is their thieving ways and their visceral hate for the one country that stops them from taxing/running the planet. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Aug 26 16:14:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:14:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: the global warming alarmist agenda in a nutshell References: <1187980967.792716.266940@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188062425.310995.101030@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188155479.564056.96660@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188155479.564056.96660@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit alanmc95210@yahoo.com wrote: > On Aug 25, 10:20 am, Lloyd wrote: >> On Aug 24, 2:42 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> >>> http://socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=495 >>> Read thru to the last paragraph: >>> "A socialist planned economy is the essential tool to begin to tackle >>> the problem of global warming and other dire environmental threats >>> that will surely arise in the future." > (cut) > AGW is summed up in the phrase "we consume too much". > This is code for "they ( poor and lower middle class people), consume > too much. People who believe this tend also to think that exotic > foreign places are being ruined because vulgar rubes can afford to go > there in significant numbers. Personality pollution? These people aren't part of the beautiful and extremely wealthy, so they're the ugly crude disgusting rabble. > They can't stand mass affluence. It diminishes the difference between > them and the masses. What offends the "beautiful people" about > America in particular is the notion of someone below the poverty > level owning an automobile, and a comfortable one, at > that. If poor people can have cars air conditioning, and can afford > to travel by plane, what's special about being rich? Your on it, they're elitist, green wienies, because green as you say can be used to limit access where race, creed and financial/social barriers have broken down. CO2 and Buying Offsets tells a story about them doesn't it. Running up the requirements to get on a mountain or into a wild life area sure guarantees only the elite will have the funds and connections to get in. The ultimate irony is that they manage to get the very people they hate, to support the cause that's used to discriminate against them. Elitist using a socialist utopia propaganda to get idiots to "run with the bulls so to speak" even though we know they dont' really have the balls to do that kind of thing, that's why they're socialist. They want the security of the government and will sell their soul to get that security. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 10:11:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:11:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Glaciers ARE receding References: <1188223520.753080.206980@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188223520.753080.206980@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > http://www.museum.state.il.us/exhibits/ice_ages/ > > I just did not realize that we've been producing CO2 for 16,000 years. > Hmmmm..... > Watch the Flinstones would you.... get some education. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 11:58:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:58:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: So, John Fernbach, does GW also cause arsonism? References: <1188211959.139812.269530@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > matt_sykes wrote: >> You stated recently that the current fires in Greece are caused by >> Global Warming. Tell me, can you prove scientifically that warmer >> temperatures turn people into arsonists? > > Why not? It also causes bridges to collapse. Seems them nasty > conservative engineers did not design their bridges to withstand > a blistering 80F, at least that's what liberal bloggers think. > > I've also asked John about this. I'm under the impression that > wood ignites at around 451F and that temperatures in Greece were > only around 100F. Seems to be a minor disconnect here. > > Cheers, > > Rich > >> (BTW, The Greek police are on the look out for people caught on video >> starting these fires.) >> It's the CO2 that makes them arsonists.... They were tree huggers last week. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 12:01:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:01:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: Vast Uncontrolled Forest Fires Scorching Greece References: <46d223fc$0$24120$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Jerry Okamura wrote: > >> Well, since you seem to understand the issue of global warming, >> perhaps you can show all of us, how well informed you are. Here are >> some questions...see how many you can answer....I will even allow you >> to do any internet search you wish to. > > Why bother, you're scientifically illiterate. I don't speak Spanish but I can tell when I'm being robbed by a Mexican. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 12:24:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:24:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Ginsu>>>was small time GW is where the money is. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When will these hucksters start selling an anti Global Warming *SYSTEM* on late night TV, three easy payments.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 12:27:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:27:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: Vast Uncontrolled Forest Fires Scorching Greece References: <1188226109.109842.100250@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188228485.519826.173930@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1188231645.810814.140150@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188231645.810814.140150@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Aug 27, 10:31 am, kT wrote: >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Aug 27, 9:50 am, kT wrote: >>>> Tunderbar wrote: >>>>> On Aug 25, 9:38 am, kT wrote: >>>>>> Yet republicans and conservatives and global warming deniers everywhere >>>>>> continue to call it life. Last I heard it was the Canaries. Who's next? >>>>> Arson fires in one small dry mediterranean country does not a global >>>>> phenomenon make. Do you have any data that shows fires in more than >>>>> ONE country? >>>> How much do you think it would take to get Alabama, Georgia and >>>> Tennessee going right now? >>>> Remember - America : One Step Away From Mob and Mobster Rule. >>>> -- >>>> Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html >>> Why? Are you considering an arson spree to advance your nutbar agw >>> agenda? >> No, that's fascism, that's not science. We're scientists, our job is to >> point out the obvious. You have to take care of your environment, and >> you have to take care of your children, so they don't grow up to be >> fascists thugs. So far, America has failed miserably on both points. >> >> -- >> Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > You are a scientist? In what field? > ORGANIC FERTILIZATION SCIENCE... it's a deep field of research. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 12:28:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 12:28:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Ginsu>>>was small time GW is where the money is. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > When will these hucksters start selling an anti Global Warming *SYSTEM* > on late night TV, three easy payments.... > > > > get rich sell carbon offsets... call now and you can make 2million next month. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:45:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:45:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: All Good Christian America Fascists ... References: <1188245329.564784.214270@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188249706.603276.300510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2lHAi.5$Gd6.3@trnddc07> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > hanson wrote: > >> Thomas Elfritz aka "kT" wrote in message >> news:1188249706.603276.300510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>> On Aug 27, 4:19 pm, "hanson" wrote: >>>> ahahahaha.... Thomas Elfritz ... >> [Thomas] >>> Is hanson feeling extra insecure today? >>> >> [hanson] >> ahaha.. what was it that gave you that impression? >> Here it is again for your benefit: > >> ahahahaha.... Thomas Elfritz aka "kT" >> wrote in message news:LzGAi.43$2I6.28@newsfe03.lga... > > Hanson is freaking again, folks. Everything is perfectly normal. > People should quit taking acid, when the trees start talking to them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:47:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:47:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: All Good Christian America Fascists ... References: <1188245329.564784.214270@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > d.086@hotmail.com wrote: > >> The Farmers' Almanac, which in its 2005 edition predicted two strong >> hurricanes -- Katrina and Rita -- would rip through the same part of >> the Gulf of Mexico coastal region in the southern United States, is >> forecasting an unusually active tornado season in the midwestern >> states next year and an active hurricane season starting in July. > > All good Christian American fascists get their science from pulp > magazines sold at the grocery store along side of the National Enquirer. > That's how we keep track of the green - aliens like you... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:49:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:49:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Climate Change References: <1187895889.912783.297140@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188240429.960880.96010@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188240746.920154.66000@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188244150.807409.278150@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Trust/Verify wrote: > >>> I trusted AL Gore But i verified what he proposed and it is nothing >>> any one should be concerned with. >>> we can put all the co2 into the atmosphere we want to and it will do >>> squat to the warming trend we are now experiencing. >>> calling people names will not change the fundamental gas laws. >>> get an education man please. > >>> Cuz youz sez soz, right? > >>> Another idiot gets an internet connection. > >> What scares me most about GW is minions of mindless idiots setting >> policy about scientific theory they cannot fathom. > Why should this be any different from the rest of their mindless policy? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:51:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:51:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: Vast Uncontrolled Forest Fires Scorching Greece References: <1188226109.109842.100250@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188233363.131300.262290@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:49:23 -0700, Fran wrote: > >> On Aug 28, 12:48 am, Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Aug 25, 9:38 am, kT wrote: >>> >>>> Yet republicans and conservatives and global warming deniers >>>> everywhere continue to call it life. Last I heard it was the Canaries. >>>> Who's next? E- mail me when the oceans catch on fire. > > Were those global or regional fires? > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:53:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:53:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Oceans ARE rising References: <1188224908.971571.208230@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:28:28 -0700, Tunderbar wrote: > >> Before AGW: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bay_of_Fundy_Low_Tide.jpg >> >> After AGW: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bay_of_Fundy_High_Tide.jpg >> >> Are you convinced yet? > > And that's in only 6 hours. Imagine what it'll be like next week! I was swimming in it just the other day, and I couldn't touch bottom... Oh My.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:55:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:55:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Oceans ARE rising References: <1188224908.971571.208230@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:28:28 -0700, Tunderbar wrote: > >> Before AGW: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bay_of_Fundy_Low_Tide.jpg >> >> After AGW: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bay_of_Fundy_High_Tide.jpg >> >> Are you convinced yet? > > And that's in only 6 hours. Imagine what it'll be like next week! > > > I saw some ice float by at the beach and it scared me, false alarm, I took a core sample and found it was from my friends beer cooler. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 21:56:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:56:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Now, even the author says his letter is bunk. References: <1188240748.684310.260490@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1188242370.258379.121260@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188242811.173400.131280@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188242811.173400.131280@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 27, 12:19 pm, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Aug 27, 11:52 am, Tunderbar wrote:>http://www.staff.livjm.ac.uk/spsbpeis/Scienceletter.htm >> >>> RE: "The scientific consensus on climate change" >>> The letter Science Magazine refused to publish >>> From: Benny Peiser >> It is a good thing that Science did not >> publish this letter, because now even >> Peiser has admitted he is wrong:http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2006/03/peiser_admits_to_making_a_mis... >> >> Also see: >> A failed attempt to discredit Oreskes.http://timlambert.org/2005/05/peiser/ >> >> Naomi Oreskes: The Scientific Consensus on Climate Changehttp://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/306/5702/1686 > > What speaks loudes of all Roger is your unwillingness to quote > anything directly from these links. > As opposed to making them up like everyone else? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 22:15:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:15:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: > > KDeatherage > CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help. > Is this like Munchausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick. This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 22:20:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:20:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: MGW>>> Munchausen Global Warming>>>Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> KDeatherage >> CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help. >> > > > Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring > yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but > instead they make the *PLANET* sick. > > This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... > > Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo > and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? Time to rename AGW to>> MGW -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 22:32:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:32:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: All Good Christian America Fascists ... References: <1188245329.564784.214270@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188249706.603276.300510@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2lHAi.5$Gd6.3@trnddc07> <1188266637.219613.282350@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > john fernbach wrote: > >> KT - I think you're on the side of truth, justice, mom & apple pie, >> etc. - but why are you calling people names in here instead of >> talking about "alt.global-warming," which is what this usenet group is >> supposedly about? >> >> This isn't a usenet group on "alt.-christian american fascists, pro >> and con," >> and it isn't a group on "national enquirer - threat or menace?" >> >> It's really supposed to be about the climate. And I think everyone in >> this string is forgetting about the CLIMATE while dragging in a bunch >> of distracting issues -to begin with, "Christian," and also >> "American," and also "fascist." >> >> Can we get back to talking about the climate, please? > > What is there to talk about anymore? > > You're fucked. And on so many levels! > > http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ > > http://www.ibiblio.org/lunarbin/worldpop > > http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/co2/graphics/mlo145e_thrudc04.pdf > > Let me try to explain it to you - the only way out of this now is via > rotating space colonies in the asteroid belt. That sounds a little silly > I know, but that's it. I've considerably reduced that to 'the rocket', > since 'the rocket' is a prerequisite to all that follows, but since > America is now effectively bankrupt, and George W. Bush and his bible > college educated cronies have wholly subverted America's scientific > institutions with idiocracy at all levels, and a mere look at NASA's > next generation rocket design reveals a fraudulent and criminal scheme > to enrich an elite prima donna astronaut corps on the payroll of ATK, > the future is generally considered by most intelligent observers not to > be salvageable. I repeat the future is not considered to be salvageable. Guess I shouldn't buy any green bananas, I'll quit Sams Club, don't need any bulk toilet paper either. Oh well, on the bright side, I won't have to worry about Hillary getting into office. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 22:41:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 22:41:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: GLOBAL SCAPEGOAT References: <46d38995@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188268717.426765.202230@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188268717.426765.202230@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Professor1942 wrote: > On Aug 27, 7:34 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> North Atlantic Ocean not salty enough? Blame global warming. >> North Atlantic Ocean too salty? Blame global warming. > > Doublethink: > > "The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind > simultaneously, and accepting both of them . . . . To tell deliberate > lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has > become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to > draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed, to deny > the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account > of the reality which one denies - all this is indispensably necessary. > Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise > doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering > with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; > and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the > truth." > > Was there ever really a truth? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 23:37:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:37:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: GLOBAL SCAPEGOAT References: <46d38995@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269238.591073.76730@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188269238.591073.76730@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Aug 27, 9:34 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: > >> North Atlantic Ocean not salty enough? > > Overturn the oceans. > >> North Atlantic Ocean too salty? > > Melt some more Arctic and Antarctic ice. > > Repeat until all the ice is melted and the oceans are uniformly warm. Could you explain how this will happen? Is there anything else on the planet that is uniformly warm? I need some examples to help me understand the process... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 23:38:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:38:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Psssst ... Poppycock Wanna Make A Quick $100,000? References: <46d39569@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Bonzo wrote: > >> $100,000 will be awarded to the first person to prove, in a scientific >> manner > > Scientific proof is an oxymoron, you moron. > > You need to breathe more oxygen and less carbon dioxide. > Michael Jackson did that, and look what it did for him! -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 23:40:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:40:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: GREENIE INSANITY CONTINUES References: <46d388af@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269823.287611.9950@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d397b6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46d397b6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bonzo wrote: > "Fran" wrote in message > news:1188269823.287611.9950@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 28, 12:30 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> As usual, you are wrong. >> >> While there's certainly no advantage to be had moving from plastic to >> paper bags in energy terms, (a TDP unit can turn plastic bags into >> diesel fuel) plastic bags are dumped in large numbers Plastic bags hold the garbage, that we dump. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 23:46:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:46:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: MOM! It isn't FAIR. CHINA gets to wreck the global environment -- why can't WE wreck the global environment? References: <1188146322.115615.43590@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188154232.849967.227400@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188245841.219426.232470@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1188259975.269772.171110@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188267498.409356.15940@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188267498.409356.15940@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Aug 27, 8:12 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> On Aug 27, 4:17 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >> >> You claim I'm a "MORON" for thinking American democracy might be >> capable of tackling the GW problem. > > How's that working out so far? > I'd say the problem is solved. We can all get some sleep now. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Aug 27 23:47:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:47:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: GLOBAL SCAPEGOAT References: <46d38995@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269238.591073.76730@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1QMAi.363$ig2.207@newsfe05.lga> In-Reply-To: <1QMAi.363$ig2.207@newsfe05.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> On Aug 27, 9:34 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >>> >>>> North Atlantic Ocean not salty enough? >>> >>> Overturn the oceans. >>> >>>> North Atlantic Ocean too salty? >>> >>> Melt some more Arctic and Antarctic ice. >>> >>> Repeat until all the ice is melted and the oceans are uniformly warm. >> >> Could you explain how this will happen? > > Considering that you are demonstrably a disingenuous scientifically > illiterate ignoramus? I don't think so. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene-Eocene_Thermal_Maximum > Gee, and I liked youuuu. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:14:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:14:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46d3f457$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46d402a3$0$13999$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188301106.496500.145970@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d40a91$0$11059$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46d40a91$0$11059$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tex wrote: > "Fran" wrote in message > news:1188301106.496500.145970@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 28, 9:10 pm, "Tex" wrote: >>> "altheim" wrote in message >>> >>> news:qfTAi.40315$1G1.24744@newsfe2-win.ntli.net... >>> > > I'm betting you can't define what "reckless self-indulgence" is. > Doesn't that equal fun... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:19:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:19:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46d3f457$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Tex" wrote: >> "altheim" wrote: >>> wrote: >>>> Fran wrote: >>>> >>>>> One should live modestly >>>> Why "should" I do any such thing? >>>> >>>>> , buying what one needs and making best use of >>>>> it before replacing it. >>>> Nope. I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >>> Your money may be yours but the earth belongs to all >>> of us. You don't have the right to misuse it. >> How am I "misusing" it? > > It begins with your objection to "living modestly", which implies > an objection to any brakes which might be placed upon your > presumed right to live extravagantly. Extravagance is > wasteful of earth's resources and therefore potentially > destructive to our future and our childrens' futures. > Is he off his meds again, he gets delusional and thinks he's Al Gore when he does that. He needs to Quit destroying his drunken drugged up kids bright future and be more like George Bush... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:22:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:22:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > wrote: >> On Aug 28, 1:05 pm, Fran wrote: >> >>> One should live modestly >> Why "should" I do any such thing? >> >>> , buying what one needs and making best use of >>> it before replacing it. >> Nope. I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money > > Your money may be yours but the earth belongs to all > of us. You don't have the right to misuse it. > But you have a right to dictate how we will live, just because you believe in a crackpot theory. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:29:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:29:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1188277818.874644.117000@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188278237.591474.69230@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1188279037.306801.326160@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > tropicus@gmail.com wrote: >> On Aug 28, 3:20 pm, kT wrote: >>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Aug 28, 3:13 pm, kT wrote: >>>>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 28, 3:07 pm, kT wrote: >>>>>>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >>>>>>> And then after you spend it, it's not your money anymore. >>>>>>> That is so weird. >>>>>> No, it really isn't >>>>> Sure it is. You claim it's your money, but you already spent it. >>>> Then what's the stuff in my bank account, shit-for-brains? >>> Electrons. >> >> Evasion noted > > What, pray tell, do you think the bank is doing with your money? > They hold it until the Democrats and green weenie, socialist in congress can write a new law that allows them to confiscate it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:33:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:33:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <%lOAi.68$bJ6.13@newsfe02.lga> In-Reply-To: <%lOAi.68$bJ6.13@newsfe02.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Bonzo wrote: > >> Rearing Cattle Produces More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving Cars, > > What part of cattle rearing as an industrial process do you not > understand? The part where we killed off Millions of Bison and replaced them with Cattle.... but they didn't pollute. The part where dinosaurs also released greenhouse gases but didn't pollute Only man can pollute. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:36:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:36:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: GLOBAL SCAPEGOAT References: <46d38995@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269488.624333.67600@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <5cMAi.171$7f4.14@newsfe06.lga> <1188278389.249660.300210@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188278389.249660.300210@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tropicus@gmail.com wrote: > On Aug 28, 12:59 pm, kT wrote: >> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> *Everything* is the result of global warming according to the greenie >>> freaks. >> No, life on Earth is a result of global warming. > > Must have been caused by SUVs......... > God created SUVs on day eight. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:41:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:41:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1188277818.874644.117000@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188278237.591474.69230@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1188279037.306801.326160@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> tropicus@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Aug 28, 3:20 pm, kT wrote: >>>>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> On Aug 28, 3:13 pm, kT wrote: >>>>>>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> On Aug 28, 3:07 pm, kT wrote: >>>>>>>>> tropi...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >>>>>>>>> And then after you spend it, it's not your money anymore. >>>>>>>>> That is so weird. >>>>>>>> No, it really isn't >>>>>>> Sure it is. You claim it's your money, but you already spent it. >>>>>> Then what's the stuff in my bank account, shit-for-brains? >>>>> Electrons. >>>> >>>> Evasion noted >>> >>> What, pray tell, do you think the bank is doing with your money? >>> >> >> They hold it until the Democrats and green weenie, socialist in >> congress can write a new law that allows them to confiscate it. > > Didn't you get the memo, you're supposed to use all the talking points : > > libs, liberals, dems, democrats, left, lefty, leftist, leftists, > socialists, and the most important one of all - communiss! > No, but thanks for the update... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 09:47:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:47:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <%lOAi.68$bJ6.13@newsfe02.lga> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> kT wrote: >>> Bonzo wrote: >>> >>>> Rearing Cattle Produces More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving Cars, >>> >>> What part of cattle rearing as an industrial process do you not >>> understand? >> >> The part where we killed off Millions of Bison and replaced them with >> Cattle.... but they didn't pollute. >> >> The part where dinosaurs also released greenhouse gases but didn't >> pollute >> >> >> Only man can pollute. > > No, only man can recognize pollution for what it is. > > You aren't a man. > Good - then I can fly my private jet and be as happy as an amoeba. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:23:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:23:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:28:58 +0000, altheim wrote: > >> wrote: >>> On Aug 28, 1:05 pm, Fran wrote: >>> >>>> One should live modestly >>> Why "should" I do any such thing? >>> >>>> , buying what one needs and making best use of >>>> it before replacing it. >>> Nope. I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >> Your money may be yours but the earth belongs to all of us. You don't have >> the right to misuse it. > > Who decides what's misuse? > Tell Wall-Mart that you want to start a boycott of their stores to stop global warming. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:28:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:28:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: As Predicted, Global Warming Fuels More Tropical Rainfall References: <1188330706.941797.289030@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188331118.519050.270660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188331118.519050.270660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt_sykes wrote: > On 28 Aug, 21:51, Roger Coppock wrote: >> As Predicted, Global Warming Fuels More Tropical Rainfall >> By Andrea Thompson, LiveScience Staff Writer >> posted: 28 August 2007 11:37 am ET >> >> Scientists had predicted that global warming ought to increase >> rainfall in the tropics. Great, now we know that it's rainfall causing the oceans to rise, and the polar ice can't be responsible for all of it. These FACTS that KEEP DRIBBLING OUT of the "science community" sure do explain why none of it was believable before, problem is it's no more believable now. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:30:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:30:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Are AGW Alarmists smarter than the rest of us? References: <1188217380.544358.152580@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188237052.753602.261820@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188240216.360370.48180@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <7686d3lpa7j46cl9las1j1ffsdvc9865gu@4ax.com> <1188327216.910928.119960@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:53:36 -0700, claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > >> Why do you think it is that these supposed, "highly qualified >> scientists,"seem to not want to engage any of us in this most prominent public and >> open forum in a detailed scientific discussion of the supposed mechanistic > > Keep up your religious use of words, idiot. Makes you look as dumb as > you are. Is this the religion of science or the science of religion? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:33:03 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:33:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188316875.759496.292910@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188322638.492540.113260@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188322638.492540.113260@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Aug 28, 12:23 pm, Whata Fool wrote: > > [snip scientifically illiterate nonsense] > >>> Everybody has an agenda. Yours is western cattle, apparently. > >>> [snip propaganda] >> And yours is what, destruction of economies? > > No, my goal is the complete destruction of civilization and the > extinction of the human race. I'm a misanthrope, I thought you all > knew that. And all I have to do to realize my goal is keep my damn > mouth shut. Fat chance of that happening. > moose gas. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:48:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:48:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Democrats want to help >>> Re: Why rebuild New Orleans?>>>minor problem if it kills thousands. References: <1188321074.011205.254300@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188321074.011205.254300@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit musikgal wrote: > If global warming is beyond question, why is anyone demanding that we > rebuild New Orleans? Because they put and keep the Democrats in Congress and in the Majority. I'm going to suggest another Democrat coup, build on Mt St Helen... This way the voters will need Government assistance without question, job security for the Democrats and their free money policies. The only reason to build on the same site, is that they're too stupid and too greedy to pass up a chance to "help someone". Their greed for power and ignorance of the fact the Democrats would let thousands die so Democrats can retain power in congress. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 17:55:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:55:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> wrote: >>>> On Aug 28, 1:05 pm, Fran wrote: >>>> >>>>> One should live modestly >>>> Why "should" I do any such thing? >>>> >>>>> , buying what one needs and making best use of >>>>> it before replacing it. >>>> Nope. I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >>> Your money may be yours but the earth belongs to all >>> of us. You don't have the right to misuse it. >>> >> But you have a right to dictate how we will live, just because you believe >> in a crackpot theory. > > Ah! No, not me Mr Dog; I don't have the authority to dictate. > > But your peers do and, one day, if you offend them with > your wastefulness, they may turn and smack you around > the head. > Makes me proud, Liberty and Justice all. Did Hitler have a consensus, he sure had the Jews by the short hairs? So if the greenies get a consensus, I'm off to the gas chambers for using too man carbon offsets? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 18:04:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:04:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188337286.510504.97270@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188337286.510504.97270@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 27, 10:24 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >> Rearing Cattle Produces More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving Cars, > > Personally, I don't think cows should be driving anyways. > We were so successful before we raised cattle that going back those few thousands of years, while tempting, might cause a little problem with sustainable human populations. Liberals are trying to get milk to babies in Africa, dont'ya know. And just because you want better weather you'd starve millions of babies. Down right Narcissistic. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 18:08:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:08:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: As Predicted, Global Warming Fuels More Tropical Rainfall References: <1188330706.941797.289030@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188331118.519050.270660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188337054.172746.8110@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188337054.172746.8110@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 28, 2:28 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > [ . . . ] >> Great, now we know that it's rainfall causing the oceans to rise, and >> the polar ice can't be responsible for all of it. > > It helps to read an article before commenting on it. > That way, your reply doesn't make you look like a total idiot. > Sure, you say that now... If I read it and reply, then you'd say I am an idiot. Why would I wast my time, you read it and you sound like an idiot so how would it help me? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 19:47:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:47:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188279957.493824.61660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d3cf59$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188287342.613374.281130@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46d3da49$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188292168.187942.143230@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188342727.4834@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> In-Reply-To: <1188342727.4834@nnrp1.phx1.gblx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit imorf wrote: > Fran wrote: >> On Aug 28, 6:18 pm, "-Norlin3#-" wrote: >>> Incidently, what about human farts? Are they worth attacking? >> Hmmm ... how would you suggest that would be done? >> Fran > > Easy. Just like the temporary sharp drop in atmospheric plane pollution > observed after 9/11 over the USA, researchers have noted a similar drop > in methane levels on the days Fran does not post to usenet. I thought the UN might start a guns for Nike sneakers type trade in program, maybe give out oil to countries that require citizens to take BeaNo.... Kinda like an oil for food program in reverse. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 19:49:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:49:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: STOP BUYING STUFF References: <46d38e1e@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188270340.311539.11680@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188277429.594317.33550@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:23:57 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Bill Ward wrote: >>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:28:58 +0000, altheim wrote: >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Aug 28, 1:05 pm, Fran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> One should live modestly >>>>> Why "should" I do any such thing? >>>>> >>>>>> , buying what one needs and making best use of it before replacing >>>>>> it. >>>>> Nope. I buy what I want, when I want. It's my money >>>> Your money may be yours but the earth belongs to all of us. You don't >>>> have the right to misuse it. >>> Who decides what's misuse? >>> >> Tell Wall-Mart that you want to start a boycott of their stores to stop >> global warming. > > Not very likely. > We'll hear about you on the news, person found dead in freak shopping cart accident. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Aug 28 23:22:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:22:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: As Predicted, Global Warming Fuels More Tropical Rainfall References: <1188330706.941797.289030@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188331118.519050.270660@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188337054.172746.8110@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:37:34 -0700, Roger Coppock > wrote: > >> On Aug 28, 2:28 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> [ . . . ] >>> Great, now we know that it's rainfall causing the oceans to rise, and >>> the polar ice can't be responsible for all of it. >> It helps to read an article before commenting on it. >> That way, your reply doesn't make you look like a total idiot. > > He's not on my whitelist, so I never see his responses. But that sure > was dumb! While the hydrologic cycle's rate may possibly increase, > evaporated water will closely approximate the precipitated water in > short order. > Thanks I take your statements as a badge of honor. A closed mind is a wonderful thing to waste. Maybe the extra water is coming from ground water? Maybe your wrong? Maybe, since I was commenting on your synopsis of the article and addressing the points that you highlighted, you didn't clarify the point you were attempting to make? Maybe I'm right, and it's not a rising ocean at all and I was laughing at you while I proposed as ridiculous an Idea as you did. Sarcasm is above and beyond some. The funny part is the holier than though attitude of you True Believers. Your line of garbage changes by the hour, as you need to adapt to all the BS you spew is debunked by average "idiots". If you look back, you'd find I put forth contrastingly ridiculous ideas when I see you True Believers spew idiotic Hypothesis. I alway wonder how you'll explain away different ideas so that your beloved GW can continue to be pertinent in your "life on the razors edge" existence. I'm open minded, I read it all and then decide, where as most of your kind have your mind set and only accept what you consider supporting information to enter your small little world of reality. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 08:19:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:19:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: GREENIE INSANITY CONTINUES References: <46d388af@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269823.287611.9950@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d397b6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188280835.011918.230360@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d4d64b$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188369613.341048.263830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188380374.646003.51150@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d549ae$0$14825$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188386461.210370.214740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46d56120$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46d56120$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B J Foster wrote: > Arthur Brain wrote: > >> B J Foster wrote: >> >> >>> Arthur Brain wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Fran wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> Honest people call it "adding unnecessarily to landfill". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Nothing wrong with landfill - enough landfill will counteract the >>>> effects of sea level rises... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ROTFL. >>> >>> Psst.....the fill comes from *where* exactly? >>> >> >> Nowhere - it's just rubbish. >> >> >> > And where did it come from before it was rubbish? Carbon -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 08:28:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:28:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: GREENIE INSANITY CONTINUES References: <46d388af@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269823.287611.9950@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d397b6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188280835.011918.230360@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d4d64b$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188369613.341048.263830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188380374.646003.51150@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d549ae$0$14825$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188386461.210370.214740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46d56120$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46d56120$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B J Foster wrote: > Arthur Brain wrote: > >> B J Foster wrote: >> >> >>> Arthur Brain wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Fran wrote: >>>> >> >> >> >>>>> Honest people call it "adding unnecessarily to landfill". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Nothing wrong with landfill - enough landfill will counteract the >>>> effects of sea level rises... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ROTFL. >>> >>> Psst.....the fill comes from *where* exactly? >>> >> >> Nowhere - it's just rubbish. >> >> >> > And where did it come from before it was rubbish? Now days it's called carbon offsets(not rubbish), because it's sequestered carbon, and Al Gore is in the Business of sequestering carbon. He's a little late to the game, Waste Management has been locking up carbon for years and years. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 08:51:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:51:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: GREENIE INSANITY CONTINUES References: <46d388af@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188269823.287611.9950@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d397b6$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188280835.011918.230360@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d4d64b$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188369613.341048.263830@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188380374.646003.51150@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d549ae$0$14825$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188386461.210370.214740@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46d56120$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1EdBi.40119$U24.12064@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <46d5685b$0$13845$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46d5685b$0$13845$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B J Foster wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> B J Foster wrote: >> >>> Arthur Brain wrote: >>> >>>> B J Foster wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Arthur Brain wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Fran wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Honest people call it "adding unnecessarily to landfill". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Nothing wrong with landfill - enough landfill will counteract the >>>>>> effects of sea level rises... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ROTFL. >>>>> >>>>> Psst.....the fill comes from *where* exactly? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nowhere - it's just rubbish. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> And where did it come from before it was rubbish? >> >> >> Now days it's called carbon offsets(not rubbish), because it's >> sequestered carbon, and Al Gore is in the Business of sequestering >> carbon. He's a little late to the game, Waste Management has been >> locking up carbon for years and years. >> > Congratulations, you've just won a lifetime membership: > http://www.isoidiots.com/History.htm Politically Correct rules must be followed and rubbish has negative connotations, therefore using the "carbon offsets" moniker makes it more "human friendly". The object is to make everyone feel good about how we interact with the environment around us. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 08:57:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:57:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Extreme conditions: What's happening to our weather? References: <1188279792.020040.174020@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Bill Ward" wrote: >> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:48:14 +0000, altheim wrote: >>> wrote: >>>> This summer is set to be the wettest ever. It's the latest in a series >>>> of broken records which suggest climate change is here already. >>>> >>>> By Michael McCarthy >>>> The Independent >>>> Published: 28 August 2007 >>>> >>>> "Britain is just a few showers away from recording a record wet summer, >>>> ... >>> [snip - in order to quote only a relevant bit] >>> >>>> The significance of these records is that they are actually occurring in >>>> the real world - rather than in the forecasts generated by computer >>>> mathematical models of the global climate. That marks a major shift. For >>>> the initial decade of the climate change problem (from the first report >>>> of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 1990), the >>>> effects of global warming, such as extreme heatwaves and downpours, were >>>> seen as future events which the climate models predicted. They were thus >>>> much easier for sceptics to dismiss. >>> So, for those denialists of AGW whose entire argument is based on doubts >>> about the validity of climate models... >>> >>> it appears you are debunked. >> I think that would require data that shows _all_ the original predictions >> from the model and the actual results, otherwise Nostradamus could say the >> same. >> Just tell me the next 100 days of weather, which days will rain - and don't use percent or probability, if I want odds then I'll go to Vagas since what happens there stays there. If you get that right, I'll start to look into the GW models that predict a little farther out. >> Do you have a link? > > I don't. I copy/pasted this from OP xnichols post (above). > > You could try The Independant's website. > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 09:06:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:06:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Driving a car produces less co2 then walking? References: <46d3afb2$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <9ERAi.99032$rX4.19516@pd7urf2no> <42TAi.40314$1G1.37523@newsfe2-win.ntli.net> <46d44a99$0$31086$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188370842.893569.188870@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188370842.893569.188870@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Aug 29, 2:17 am, "OneHandClapping" wrote: >> "Green Turtle" wrote in messagenews:aGVAi.100351$fJ5.17161@pd7urf1no... >> >>> "altheim" wrote in messagenews:42TAi.40314$1G1.37523@newsfe2- >>>This is kind of good basic public information that our government >>> SHOULD give to us so we can make reasoned decisions...but, all we get is crap from these people... >> people are quite inefficient users of food energy, the human body is >> remarkably inefficient, plants are only moderately efficient at fixing energy >> but since sunlight is copious and free it all works out nicely We could turn it into Alcohol, beer is a nice source of food energy. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 10:58:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:58:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.politics.democrats,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Pakis don't give a S--- about pollution, neither do the Chinese References: <26vad3td251eao449g8o5kvabq76gk12gr@4ax.com> <1188397672.487463.322250@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188397963.156775.300010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188397963.156775.300010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > It's Americans OR Democrats wrote: > >> See, you leftwing pieces of scum, THIS is why KYOTO is the most >> MASSIVE fraud in history. > > I was little worried that you wonderful Americans had A-bombed yet > another Japanese city off the face of the Earth, but I looked it up on > Google Maps, and sure enough, it's still there. What have you got > against innocent Japanese cities? We pretty much know how you handle > innocent Iraqi civilians. > The poor innocent world... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 11:00:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:59:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46cb6bb0$0$31092$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46cc681f$0$31048$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46cd4414$0$31037$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46d14936$0$31044$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46d189bf$0$97247$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46d22015$0$31097$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46d2ddf2$0$97257$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46d3597d$1$31057$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46d4336b$0$97222$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46d4adbf$1$31009$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46d58155$0$97250$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> In-Reply-To: <46d58155$0$97250$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit §ñühw¤£f wrote: > Harley pinched out a steaming pile > of<46d4adbf$1$31009$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com>: > >>>> Google is your friend.>> >>>> Harley >> >>> No. You have an assertion to make so make it. >>> Or be remembered for being a pussy :) >> >> Don't you really know? >> >> Harley > > Know what the wingnutty right thinks about the kennedy family? > Sure, they're all SPAWN OF SATAN!!!!1111!!!! > > What else you got, wAcKyAsS? > > -- > www.alternet.org Drunken spawn of satin. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 11:24:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:24:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Lucky For Us The Precautionary Principle Wasn't Invoked Then. Eh? References: <46cfc82a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188049802.220741.271980@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188395717.856368.291300@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188395717.856368.291300@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John M. wrote: > On Aug 25, 5:27 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> John M. wrote: >>> Just like those lucky, lucky people in Ohio who saved money by >>> refusing to pay for unecessary flood insurance. Think how much they >>> saved in 2006, 2005, 2004,......... >> Worst in 100 years, think how much they saved over the last 100 years of >> putting that insurance payment into college and retirement accounts >> for their children and themselves. > > So they won't be interested in replacement housing then? > Sure they will, Democrats have greezed the skids, everyone gets government money and they vote Democrat to insure that they get it next time too. Is Ohio Blue or RED? Is Louisiana red or blue? You can give your money and the insurance company will stiff you, but sell your vote and in two or six years they have to buy it again. Why not retire in a big new house, paid by the taxpayers and still have your retirement account full of cash. Global warming Dividends, the new economy of the United Socialist States of America(the USSA) -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 11:26:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:26:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming, Open immigration, One world Religion, Hate Crime References: <14719-46D5795B-66@storefull-3315.bay.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: <14719-46D5795B-66@storefull-3315.bay.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Leonard Abbott wrote: > > > Global Warming, Open immigration, One world Religion, Hate Crime > legislation, Holocaust, Nazi Bashing, Forced Integration, Affirmative > Action are Political propaganda to change the demographics of America. > Paving the way.for the ''New World Order'' > > The World political left don't give a Damn > about Africans, and are willing to sacrifice the entire African > population, in order to create hysteria in America over Global warming. > and sea levels rising. > > CO² is good for the Ecology, plants breath CO² .It is Trees that > produce needed Oxygen, in the process of producing Oxygen, trees will > send their roots down as much as 200 feet, bringing moisture to the > surface to be mixed with dry air in the atmosphere. > > North Africa is situated, where the prevailing wind must pick up > moisture over India and the Mid East in order for plant life to > flourish.. > > Africa is turning into a dust bowl, because most of the trees in Africa, > India and the Mid East have been cut down. If new growth had been > planted, Africans would not be starving.. > > The Colonial powers cut down the forests, but they also practiced > conservation, for greed they planted new trees, After Colonialism fell > the locals did not address the problem. and were better off under > Colonialism. > > Boycotts and leftest inspired revolutions drove the remaining Europeans > out of Africa, leaving Africans to govern themselves. > And a wonderful Job they are doing. Lets leave Iraq and get into Darfur. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 11:32:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:32:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: What might this other reason be? References: <1188383961.155710.56720@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188398831.538016.181100@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > wrote in message > news:1188398831.538016.181100@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> On Aug 29, 3:39 am, "John M." >> wrote: >>> On 29 Aug, 08:34, wrote: >>> >>>> There must be some other reason why these >>>> supposed, "highly qualified scientists,"seem to not want to engage any >>>> of us >>>> in this most prominent public and open forum in a detailed scientific >>>> discussion of the supposed theoretical aspects of the global warming >>>> premise. What you're saying just doesn't make sense. >>>> What do you think this other reason might be? >>> If you go to a Mathematics forum with your cast iron method for the >>> trisection of >>> an angle using ruler and compass, >> You must have me confused with somebody else. >> >>> you might find a certain reluctance >>> to debate >>> your proof of its possibility. >>> >>> What do you suppose could be the cause of that? >> Don't scientists have an ethical responsibility to inform and educate >> the public? Global warming scientists are not under arrest so one can >> only wonder why they are so protective of their right to remain >> silent. Maybe it's because they realize that anything they say can >> and will be used against them in the court of public opinion. > > Maybe it's because the people asking for a debate are paid shills and > droolers. > > Can I borrow your car? > > I didn't see any of that when I took my scientific oath.. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 11:36:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:36:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Lucky For Us The Precautionary Principle Wasn't Invoked Then. Eh? References: <46cfc82a$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188049802.220741.271980@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188395717.856368.291300@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:ucgBi.73079$jH3.63207@bignews6.bellsouth.net... >> John M. wrote: >>> On Aug 25, 5:27 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> John M. wrote: >>>>> Just like those lucky, lucky people in Ohio who saved money by >>>>> refusing to pay for unecessary flood insurance. Think how much they >>>>> saved in 2006, 2005, 2004,......... >>>> Worst in 100 years, think how much they saved over the last 100 years of >>>> putting that insurance payment into college and retirement accounts >>>> for their children and themselves. >>> So they won't be interested in replacement housing then? >>> >> Sure they will, Democrats have greezed the skids, everyone gets government >> money and they vote Democrat to insure that they get it next time too. Is >> Ohio Blue or RED? Is Louisiana red or blue? >> >> You can give your money and the insurance company will stiff you, but sell >> your vote and in two or six years they have to buy it again. >> >> Why not retire in a big new house, paid by the taxpayers and still have >> your retirement account full of cash. >> >> Global warming Dividends, the new economy of the United Socialist States >> of America(the USSA) > > k00k-a-d00dle-d0000! > > Thanks, if I post it twice people cry foul, but your wit gets it twice the attention with no real down side. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 12:31:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:31:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: MGW>>> Munchausen Global Warming>>>Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > kdthrge@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> KDeatherage >> CO2Phobia is a psychological disease. Seek professional help. >> > > Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick? This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? Time to rename AGW to>> MGW They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs, be it spelling or what ever). "Pathological Münchhausen - Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Here are some ways to tell someone is a "Pathological Münchhausen Global warming sufferer" contributed by another FAQ: * They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. * They add exaggerations to every data source. * They change their story all the time. * They act very defensively when you question their statements. * They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. Here's an alternate "checklist": * Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. * Lies to get sympathy, to feel better, to imply they want to save their planet, etc. * Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. * May have another personality disorder. * Extremely manipulative. * Has been caught in lies repeatedly. * Never fesses up to the lies. * Is a legend in their own mind. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 12:53:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:53:37 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Extreme conditions: What's happening to our weather? References: <1188279792.020040.174020@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> "Bill Ward" wrote: >>>> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:48:14 +0000, altheim wrote: >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> This summer is set to be the wettest ever. It's the latest in a series >>>>>> of broken records which suggest climate change is here already. >>>>>> >>>>>> By Michael McCarthy >>>>>> The Independent >>>>>> Published: 28 August 2007 >>>>>> >>>>>> "Britain is just a few showers away from recording a record wet >>>>>> summer, >>>>>> ... >>>>> [snip - in order to quote only a relevant bit] >>>>> >>>>>> The significance of these records is that they are actually occurring >>>>>> in >>>>>> the real world - rather than in the forecasts generated by computer >>>>>> mathematical models of the global climate. That marks a major shift. >>>>>> For >>>>>> the initial decade of the climate change problem (from the first >>>>>> report >>>>>> of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change in 1990), the >>>>>> effects of global warming, such as extreme heatwaves and downpours, >>>>>> were >>>>>> seen as future events which the climate models predicted. They were >>>>>> thus >>>>>> much easier for sceptics to dismiss. >>>>> So, for those denialists of AGW whose entire argument is based on >>>>> doubts >>>>> about the validity of climate models... >>>>> >>>>> it appears you are debunked. >>>> I think that would require data that shows _all_ the original >>>> predictions >>>> from the model and the actual results, otherwise Nostradamus could say >>>> the >>>> same. >>>> >> Just tell me the next 100 days of weather, which days will rain - and >> don't use percent or probability, if I want odds then I'll go to Vagas >> since what happens there stays there. If you get that right, I'll start to >> look into the GW models that predict a little farther out. > > When I joined this group (agw) I was soundly berated for > confusing climate with weather. I've learned to tell them > apart. However you have been here longer than me yet > you still don't know the difference. > > Climate models are for climate only. > If you can't predict the weather just say so. The weather + the weather = the climate. So ?+?=the models climate answer. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 16:48:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:48:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt,religion.jehovahs-witn,alt.atheism Subject: Re: Natural Disasters and the Human Factor References: <7b525eaf2447a84a82e0706e6245a89f@remailer.metacolo.com> In-Reply-To: <7b525eaf2447a84a82e0706e6245a89f@remailer.metacolo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ips-Switch@remailer.metacolo.com wrote: > WHEN a car is well maintained, it can provide safe transportation. > But that vehicle when abused and neglected can be dangerous. In some > respects, the same may be said of planet Earth. > Things are changing around us all the time, before microscopes and telescopes and some other improvements we had little or no Idea of the changes we couldn't see.. right now there are so many changing things that I'd bet you you can't guess the number. Or guess the number that are good or bad changes. CO2 - a drop in the bucket. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 17:26:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:26:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Quiz Reworked References: <1188420546.360819.222010@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188420546.360819.222010@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tegiri Nenashi wrote: > On Aug 28, 6:08 pm, "Hhhhmmmmm....." > wrote: >> Answer the questions correctly - move to the next level > > Perhaps you are unaware that tests today assume a selection of canned > answers. With this in mind here is my variation: > > The term "denier" is coined after > 1. The famous actor De Nire > 2. A cynonim for "septic" > 3. All of the above > > "Climate change" means > 1. The world getting warmer > 2. The world getting cooler > 3. The world getting warmer and cooler at the same time > 4. More hurry canes > 5. Man, you can possibly imagine how bad it would be. > > The "Hockey stick" is > 1. The new flag of Canada > 2. somebody in academic world made a career out of it > 3. broken > > The most irrefutable proof that wobal glorming is real > 1. The computer model (whatever it is) > 2. The weather news (in summer) > 3. Polar beer drowning (in masses). > These are trick questions.... (1)-(a) De Nire is to close to DeCaprio (2)-(c) Climate change means that it's oceans are "uniformly warm". (3) I just can't decide (4)-(c) I cried when I watched Free Willie, This has to be polar bears, they're so cute. That huge red smear on the ice as they dismember and eat live baby seals, makes me think that clubbing those little guys(baby seals) to death was so much more humane that I start crying again. It's poetic justice that the polar bears drown for their crimes against the poor baby seals. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 17:34:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:34:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3cf59$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188287342.613374.281130@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46d3da49$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188292168.187942.143230@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188300819.123125.93120@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188369108.884566.165850@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188371944.178615.32110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188380341.678403.99260@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188422653.963032.244090@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188422653.963032.244090@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Aug 30, 3:38 am, Whata Fool wrote: >> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:39:01 -0700, Fran wrote: >>> But none of that matters to you. For you, the suffering of sensate >>> beings and the consumption of scarce water resources and energy and >>> the acceleration of climate change is a price well worth paying for >>> you to chow down on some part of an animal's corpse. Little wonder you >>> care so little about disadvantaged humans. There's a pattern here. >>> Fran >> Gosh, maybe us humans better get off the planet and leave >> it to the wild dogs and wild dog lovers. > > I know it's a bit much to ask someone who has chosen the nick "whata > fool" to apply his/her faculites to something more profound than silly > caricatures, but why not give it a go and advance two theories as to > how wild dogs got out there in the first place? > > Insert here>>> Evolution God -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 18:06:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:06:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Fighting bad science with bad poetry References: <1188424097.223576.190910@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188424097.223576.190910@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tegiri Nenashi wrote: > It looks like global warming brainwashing in public schools works: > > http://www.childrenoftheearth.org/Kid's%20Entries/global_warming_Dore_class.htm > > On the other hand, I struggle to find any sarcastic poetry on the > topic. Can't we fix this? I mean, come on people, we can do better > than 9 year old! > > Here are the suggested themes: > > Polar beer, poor dude... I had a polar beer at the polar bar... > Bending upward hockey stick... I don't want to touch that one, literally Like my mom said you can't tell where it's been > NASA weather climate chief... He can fly a shuttle and drink a polar beer at the same time, but tie his shoes and chew gum? Passit back to the 9 year old.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 20:04:46 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:04:45 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Quiz References: <6dmdnb6D7cyeZ0jbnZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@comcast.com> In-Reply-To: <6dmdnb6D7cyeZ0jbnZ2dnUVZ_sGvnZ2d@comcast.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hhhhmmmmm..... wrote: > "kT" wrote in message > news:aj5Bi.61$lt5.56@newsfe04.lga... > Hhhhmmmmm..... wrote: > > Americans just love shit because the TV told them to. > We love 'ya -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Aug 29 23:49:29 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 23:49:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3cf59$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188287342.613374.281130@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46d3da49$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188292168.187942.143230@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188300819.123125.93120@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188369108.884566.165850@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188371944.178615.32110@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188380341.678403.99260@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188422653.963032.244090@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188432665.587204.142210@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188432665.587204.142210@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fran wrote: > On Aug 30, 7:34 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Fran wrote: >>> On Aug 30, 3:38 am, Whata Fool wrote: >>>> On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:39:01 -0700, Fran wrote: >>>>> But none of that matters to you. For you, the suffering of sensate >>>>> beings and the consumption of scarce water resources and energy and >>>>> the acceleration of climate change is a price well worth paying for >>>>> you to chow down on some part of an animal's corpse. Little wonder you >>>>> care so little about disadvantaged humans. There's a pattern here. >>>>> Fran >>>> Gosh, maybe us humans better get off the planet and leave >>>> it to the wild dogs and wild dog lovers. >>> I know it's a bit much to ask someone who has chosen the nick "whata >>> fool" to apply his/her faculites to something more profound than silly >>> caricatures, but why not give it a go and advance two theories as to >>> how wild dogs got out there in the first place? >>> Insert here>>> >> Evolution >> God > > An each way bet, and yet both are well wide of the mark. > > You ought to know more about your taxonomic peers. Aliens? Dr. Frankenstein -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:04:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:04:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Global warming: As evidence grows, skeptics melt away References: <1187302075.718960.152410@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i2y97o.1lw2gkl1y6q5e7N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1187371747.177136.210370@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i2zs0q.12ipdk1kfg24N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1187462518.478931.103940@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i31lr0.1aqns6g104pf38N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i3b08j.1v2fkdp5lrz47N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i3mklx.1s043x5u8n2o3N%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: <1i3mklx.1s043x5u8n2o3N%nobody@nowheres.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the_blogologist wrote: > ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans wrote: > >> "the_blogologist" wrote >>> There is absolutely no comparison between 2 > 1 and the science behind >>> global warming. >> Well, there is quit a bit of similarity between the two. Both involve >> mathematics. Both are models of the real world. Both are experimentally >> verified, and neither are open to debate by rational people. > > There is no debate that 2 is greater than 1. > > There is plenty of debate over global warming. > Is this on a number line? To the left or right of 0? Binary? base 5? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:05:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:05:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Global warming: As evidence grows, skeptics melt away References: <1187302075.718960.152410@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1i2y97o.1lw2gkl1y6q5e7N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1187371747.177136.210370@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i2zs0q.12ipdk1kfg24N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1187462518.478931.103940@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1i31lr0.1aqns6g104pf38N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i3b08j.1v2fkdp5lrz47N%nobody@nowheres.com> <1i3mklx.1s043x5u8n2o3N%nobody@nowheres.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > the_blogologist wrote: > >> There is plenty of debate over global warming. > > Sure, in the feeeeeeeble minds of ignorant Americans everywhere. > > Feeeeeeeeeeeeeble. You're feeeeeeeeeeeeeeble. > Genius to feeeeeeeeeeble in a heart beat. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:10:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:10:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <46ccb4d7$0$31053$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <475bd4e2.721046099@news.giganews.com> <1187830473.838855.84870@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46cd7f24$0$31016$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hhhhmmmmm..... wrote: > "Robert Casey" wrote in message > news:46cd7f24$0$31016$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com... > >> One would think you would get "out of the bullseye". Even animals >> know when to move. Oh, I guess you want the government to do something >> so you don't have to. >> > > Yeah, why dont they send the Air Force with bombers to drop a few nukes > on the hurricanes to destroy them before they trash the USA? :-) > > --------> what makes you think that would have any effect whatsoever? Today's weather "widely scattered radiation showers" from the remnants of hurricane "Moon Unit". -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:11:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:11:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Why rebuild New Orleans? References: <1188321074.011205.254300@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188448322.259242.158430@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188448322.259242.158430@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Spob wrote: > Actually, an excellent plan has been proposed regarding displaced New > Orleans residents since Federal aid is expiring for large numbers of > former Louisiana residents, predominantly African American, who were > displaced by hurricane Katrina and have been living largely at > taxpayer expense. > > Apparently a large number of them have, for whatever reason, been > unable to re-orient their lives, find employment, and divest > themselves of the need for further federal aid. > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:16:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:16:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ....Remembering Hurricane Katrina....two year anniversary. References: <1188457059.875501.83050@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188457059.875501.83050@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sir.jeanpaul-turcaud@neuf.fr wrote: > On 30 août, 06:26, "Hhhhmmmmm....." > wrote: >> "Jonathan" wrote in message >> >> news:qxoBi.24588$wN3.1018@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> Homes destroyed by Katrina ....850,791 >> >> --------> the vast majority of which were in Mississippi. why is New Orleans >> getting ALL the attention? gee, I wonder..... >> >> http://www.throughtheeyeofthestorm.com/KatrinaFacts.htm >> >> s > > Some more Katrina to come ... this is the lesson to draw from such > experiment ! > > Is America ready, this would be my question ? > For putting huge populations on government assistance for large portions of their life? been there done that.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:25:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:25:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Glacier Offsets for sale>>>Re: Arctic sea ice reaches new summer minimum References: <1188460265.855073.5610@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188460265.855073.5610@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xnichols@hotmail.com wrote: > Overview of current sea ice conditions 28th August 2007 > > 'Sea ice extent continues to decline, and is now at 4.78 million > square kilometers (1.84 million square miles), falling yet further > below the record absolute minimum of 5.32 million square kilometers > (2.05 million square miles) that occurred on September 20-21, 2005.' Margarita lovers the world over, hang your heads in a moment of silence... Isn't the ""record" zero ice? I'll put some extra in my freezer and sell them as *Glacier* *offsets* -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:33:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:33:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: it's only 2 degrees References: <1188385666.640370.18070@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188410389.224168.317230@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188410707.031774.93070@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188473908.134458.124410@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188473908.134458.124410@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 29, 11:05 am, Tegiri Nenashi wrote: >> On Aug 29, 10:59 am, Lloyd wrote: >> >>> On Aug 29, 7:07 am, rlaybe...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> It's only a 2 degrees temperature rise scientists are talking about in > > One doesn't need a fancy computer model to see that > the global mean surface temperature is accelerating. > A simple examination of past trends will do it all. > There is no way we will see anything less than 1K > in 50 years. Lets look at the increasing rate of > temperature rise over the last 50 years. Your taking for granted that the next 50 will rise also, maybe it will turn around and drop 5k... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:36:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:36:02 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: John Edwards another hypocrite with a BIG house References: <1188473030.215264.29580@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188475900.343781.277220@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188475900.343781.277220@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 30, 4:23 am, Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE > wrote: >> So he wants the average Joe to give up his SUV while he lives in a >> house at least 10x the size of the average person's. >> Another democrat elitist scumbag. > > So ExXon sent the memo, it's Edwards not Al Gore now? > Laws are made for the little people... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 08:43:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:43:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Dean... Third Strongest Ever Recorded... References: <46ccb4d7$0$31053$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <475bd4e2.721046099@news.giganews.com> <1187830473.838855.84870@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46cd7f24$0$31016$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1188477625.122681.3220@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188477625.122681.3220@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Aug 29, 9:22 pm, "Hhhhmmmmm....." > wrote: >> "Robert Casey" wrote in message >> news:46cd7f24$0$31016$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com... >> >>> One would think you would get "out of the bullseye". Even animals >>> know when to move. Oh, I guess you want the government to do something >>> so you don't have to. >> Yeah, why dont they send the Air Force with bombers to drop a few nukes >> on the hurricanes to destroy them before they trash the USA? :-) >> >> --------> what makes you think that would have any effect whatsoever? > > Nukes very probably wouldn't have much effect on a > major hurricane, like Dean. Those big weather systems > dissipate more than the energy of several WWII size > A-bombs every minute. Would the heat/radiation cause more humidity and fule it to a *MEGA* hurricane proportion? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 09:39:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 09:39:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: MGW>>> Munchausen Global Warming>>>Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> Have you ever noticed that when you have an elevated consciousness (say 8+ on the Manic Depressive mood scale), that your thoughts become reality a lot more quickly. In Hinduism this is called Sidhi Consciousness and apparently all humans do it to a greater or lesser extent (see Law of Attraction by Esther & Jerry Hicks for a good discussion/guide on this topic). > >>> However I think the most pressing issue for manifestation is Global warming. While I was in hospital there have been 2 or 3 occasions where i have felt very close to the weather, it mirroring my own internal mood. Wether this was the weather affecting me or me affecting the weather i don't know. North American Indians can make it rain, and when talking to a lot of "mad" people they claim to be able to do it too. > >>> Can we control the weather consciously? Have you controlled the weather? >>> Any discussion would be interesting. Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick? This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? Time to rename AGW to>> MGW They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs, be it spelling or what ever). "Pathological Münchhausen - Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Here are some ways to tell someone is a "Pathological Münchhausen Global warming sufferer" contributed by another FAQ: * They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. * They add exaggerations to every data source. * They change their story all the time. * They act very defensively when you question their statements. * They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. Here's an alternate "checklist": * Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. * Lies to get sympathy, to feel better, to imply they want to save their planet, etc. * Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. * May have another personality disorder. * Extremely manipulative. * Has been caught in lies repeatedly. * Never fesses up to the lies. * Is a legend in their own mind. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 10:04:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:04:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: MGW>>> Munchausen Global Warming>>>Re: AGWists are sore losers References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: http://theicarusproject.net/exciting-news-from-an-icarista-in-england http://theicarusproject.net/ecology-nature? Global Warming causing and is caused by mental awareness... --- Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick? This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs, be it spelling or what ever). "Pathological Münchhausen - Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Here are some ways to tell someone is a "Pathological Münchhausen Global warming sufferer" contributed by another FAQ: * They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. * They add exaggerations to every data source. * They change their story all the time. * They act very defensively when you question their statements. * They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. Here's an alternate "checklist": * Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. * Lies to get sympathy, to feel better, to imply they want to save their planet, etc. * Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. * May have another personality disorder. * Extremely manipulative. * Has been caught in lies repeatedly. * Never fesses up to the lies. * Is a legend in their own mind. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 10:20:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0009 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:20:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: MGWists>>> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCnchhausen_Global_Warming=3E=3E?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3ERe=3A_AGWists_are_sore_losers?= References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: "Mass hypnotic Münchhausen Syndrome Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" > Obviously I'm not the first to feel that much of the rest of the world is crazy for calling me crazy... That I'm disabled by others' assumptions about reality... that the entire world is being categorized and commodified and homogenized and sterilized via some bizarre eugenic compulsion. I've seen some great posts here touching on things like shamanism and permaculture as a sort of radical and horizontal eco-psycho-social therapy... as a way we can sort of begin to put our lives in order with 'nature'... and I wanted to contribute to that with this short ecopsychology primer from Theodore Roszak. (Along with a few choice quotes from my ever-growing list.) -- Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick? This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? They "construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well, what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!" (again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of theirs, be it spelling or what ever). "Pathological Münchhausen - Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" Obviously, they will contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. They usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would be?). Here are some ways to tell someone is a "Pathological Münchhausen Global warming sufferer" contributed by another FAQ: * They lie about even the smallest things. For example, saying "I brushed my teeth today," when they didn't. * They add exaggerations to every data source. * They change their story all the time. * They act very defensively when you question their statements. * They believe what they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't. Here's an alternate "checklist": * Lies when it is very easy to tell the truth. * Lies to get sympathy, to feel better, to imply they want to save their planet, etc. * Fools people at first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they ever say. * May have another personality disorder. * Extremely manipulative. * Has been caught in lies repeatedly. * Never fesses up to the lies. * Is a legend in their own mind. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Aug 30 11:20:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:20:41 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: EcoNeurosis >or> =?windows-1252?Q?M=FCnchhausen_Global_Warmi?= =?windows-1252?Q?ng?= References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: EcoNeurosis: > Many parents make the mistake of not picking up their child sufficiently out of fear of "spoiling" him. By ignoring him, this is precisely what they do, and later they will be swamped by the child's insatiable demands for symbolic substitutes — until the day they crack down on him. The consequences of that are both inevitable and dreadful. http://www.continuum-concept.org/reading/neurosis.html "insatiable demands for symbolic substitutes" They're fear of the Eco system falling apart around them? Sounds like the Eco Nuts are trying to symbolically fix their own little crumbling worlds.... I feel their pain, they had a chaotic childhood or an experience that has triggered this insatiable fear. > But the point is, as Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace puts it: "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter, that's what we're dealing with." Got that? If it's hot, that's a sign of global warming, and, if it's cold, that's a sign of global warming. > > And if it's just kind of average - say, 48F and partially cloudy, as it will be in Llandudno today - that's a sign that global warming is accelerating out of control and you need to flee immediately because time is running out ! "Time is running out to deal with climate change," says Mr Guilbeault. "Ten years ago, we thought we had a lot of time, five years ago we thought we had a lot of time, but now science is telling us that we don't have a lot of time." > > Really? Ten years ago, we had a lot of time? That's not the way I recall it: "Time is running out for the climate" - Chris Rose of Greenpeace, 1997; "Time running out for action on global warming Greenpeace claims" - Irish Times, 1994; "Time is running out" - scientist Henry Kendall, speaking on behalf of Greenpeace, 1992. Admirably, Mr Guilbeault's commitment to the environment extends to recycling last decade's scare-mongering press releases. > > "Stop worrying about your money, take care of our planet," advised one of the protesters' placards. Au contraire, take care of your money and the planet will follow. For anywhere other than Antarctica and a few sparsely inhabited islands, the first condition for a healthy environment is a strong economy. In the past third of a century, the American economy has swollen by 150 per cent, automobile traffic has increased by 143 per cent, and energy consumption has grown 45 per cent. During this same period, air pollutants have declined by 29 per cent, toxic emissions by 48.5 per cent, sulphur dioxide levels by 65.3 per cent, and airborne lead by 97.3 per cent. Despite signing on to Kyoto, European greenhouse gas emissions have increased since 2001, whereas America's emissions have fallen by nearly one per cent, despite the Toxic Texan's best efforts to destroy the planet. Al Gore is preying on the weakness of others, it's tantamount to telling a clean freak that germs are climbing up their arm... I thought I was the first to see the EcoNeurosis, I wasn't. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536327/posts Is this like Münchhausen Syndrome: making yourself sick or injuring yourself in order to get attention from the medical community, but instead they make the *PLANET* sick? This is Munchausen by proxy: making someone ELSE sick... Is there a cure for the Proxy version, can we give the Planet a placebo and let them, move on and make the universe or maybe Mars sick? From - Thu Aug 30 16:48:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:48:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Cooking the data? References: <1188373669.969870.202720@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188504355.589188.24850@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188504355.589188.24850@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chemist wrote: > On Aug 29, 4:27 pm, "Server 13" wrote: >> "chemist" wrote in message >> >> news:1188373669.969870.202720@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> >>> Is this where Hansen has added a bit to >>> keep the globe warming more. >> Huh? >> >>> Global temperature according to GISS >>> courtesy of Roger >>> 2005 2007 >>> 1995 14.38 14.38 >>> 1996 14.29 14.3 >>> 1997 14.39 14.4 >>> 1998 14.56 14.57 >>> 1999 14.32 14.32 >>> 2000 14.33 14.33 >>> 2001 14.47 14.48 >>> 2002 14.56 14.56 >>> 2003 14.54 14.55 >>> 2004 14.48 14.49 > > Just an example > It cooled off in 2004, what happened, Al Gore turn off some of his lights? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 09:58:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:58:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: China says one-child policy helps protect climate References: <1188533776.022952.10910@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188533776.022952.10910@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit simple_language@yahoo.com wrote: > source: http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL3047203920070830?sp=true > > > China, which rejects criticism that it is doing too little to confront > climate change, says that its population is now 1.3 billion against > 1.6 billion if it had not imposed tough birth control measures in the > late 1970s. > > The number of births avoided equals the entire population of the > United States. Beijing says that fewer people means less demand for > energy and lower emissions of heat-trapping gases from burning fossil > fuels. I see, NOW a human life has been reduced to a carbon unit... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 14:36:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:36:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Glacier Offsets, I've cracked the recipe>>Re: If AGW is true glaciers should be increasing References: <1188578818.439196.251730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188578818.439196.251730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > On Aug 23, 9:07 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> On Aug 23, 7:45 am, "Robert Weldon" >> wrote: >>> "Fabrikant" wrote in message > >>>> I often hear some claims about the results of >>>> global warming, which make no sense. Here >>>> is one example. A "specialist" was complaining >>>> that the main Indian river Ganges has now much >>>> less water, than it used to have in the past, and >>>> the reason is global warming: glaciers >>>> in the mountains are melting faster than usual. >>>> This makes no sense: if glaciers are melting >>>> faster, than usual, then Gangi should have more >>>> water than usual, not less. In general, all the >>>> stories about disappearing glaciers might have >>>> nothing to do with global warming. Indeed, rivers >>>> are flowing for thousands of years, and they are >>>> flowing from the same glaciers. As big as they >>>> are, they are neither infinite nor eternal. If the >>>> amount of yearly snowfall is less than the amount >>>> melted during summer, glaciers will decrease in >>>> size, regardless of the average temperature. > >>> No, you loon, due to global warming there is both >>> less snowfall to replenish the glacier, >> Exactly the opposite is the case. With a warmer >> planet we have more evaporation and higher >> precipitation, including higher levels of snowfall in the >> mountains. I am selling Glacier Offsets, I have room in my freezer so I'm making Glacial ice... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 15:13:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:13:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Glacier Offsets, I've cracked the recipe>>Re: If AGW is true glaciers should be increasing References: <1188578818.439196.251730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan Kirwan wrote: > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:41:15 -0500, "Server 13" > wrote: > >> >>> I am selling Glacier Offsets, I have room in my freezer so I'm making >>> Glacial ice... >> Is it advancing? =) > > ;) > > Questions are: (1) How close can he/she come to making the hundreds > of cubic kilometers of ice we are losing each year; and, (2) How much > additional loss of ice will there be due to the additional global > warming caused by the energy generation required for him/her to make > any inroads on the problem. > > Answers are: (1) As much as will make no difference at all; and, (2) > He/She will have to buy far more glacier offsets from others than > he/she produces to sell. > OK (1) I can make a lot, it simply stores cheaper as a liquid Glacier. (2)I will unplug my glacier maker if you send me half as much money. If Al Gore sells carbon by the branch, a glacier by the cube works for me. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 15:15:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:15:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Glacier Offsets, I've cracked the recipe>>Re: If AGW is true glaciers should be increasing References: <1188578818.439196.251730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:kcZBi.26411$wN3.22734@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> On Aug 23, 9:07 am, claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>> On Aug 23, 7:45 am, "Robert Weldon" >>>> wrote: >>>>> "Fabrikant" wrote in message >>>>>> I often hear some claims about the results of >>>>>> global warming, which make no sense. Here >>>>>> is one example. A "specialist" was complaining >>>>>> that the main Indian river Ganges has now much >>>>>> less water, than it used to have in the past, and >>>>>> the reason is global warming: glaciers >>>>>> in the mountains are melting faster than usual. >>>>>> This makes no sense: if glaciers are melting >>>>>> faster, than usual, then Gangi should have more >>>>>> water than usual, not less. In general, all the >>>>>> stories about disappearing glaciers might have >>>>>> nothing to do with global warming. Indeed, rivers >>>>>> are flowing for thousands of years, and they are >>>>>> flowing from the same glaciers. As big as they >>>>>> are, they are neither infinite nor eternal. If the >>>>>> amount of yearly snowfall is less than the amount >>>>>> melted during summer, glaciers will decrease in >>>>>> size, regardless of the average temperature. >>>>> No, you loon, due to global warming there is both >>>>> less snowfall to replenish the glacier, >>>> Exactly the opposite is the case. With a warmer >>>> planet we have more evaporation and higher >>>> precipitation, including higher levels of snowfall in the >>>> mountains. >> I am selling Glacier Offsets, I have room in my freezer so I'm making >> Glacial ice... > > Is it advancing? =) > > I might retire soon, I can simply recycle the whole thing when I do. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 15:21:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:21:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Glacier Offsets, I've cracked the recipe>>Re: If AGW is true glaciers should be increasing References: <1188578818.439196.251730@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Jonathan Kirwan" wrote in message > news:hnogd3ta7t2vuqkm5ojlcht4vjmirnu4kq@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:41:15 -0500, "Server 13" >> wrote: >> >>> >>>> I am selling Glacier Offsets, I have room in my freezer so I'm making >>>> Glacial ice... >>> Is it advancing? =) >> ;) >> >> Questions are: (1) How close can he/she come to making the hundreds >> of cubic kilometers of ice we are losing each year; and, (2) How much >> additional loss of ice will there be due to the additional global >> warming caused by the energy generation required for him/her to make >> any inroads on the problem. >> >> Answers are: (1) As much as will make no difference at all; and, (2) >> He/She will have to buy far more glacier offsets from others than >> he/she produces to sell. >> >> Jon > > Good points, but I'm more interested in how the idiot is going to avoid > icepicking his refrigerant out into the atmosphere if he ain't gonna melt > the ice out. =) I'll use my hair dryer(set on low to save energy of course)... releasing R-22 would be irresponsible wouldn't it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 23:34:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:34:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: I'm Sick And Tired Of Working For Big Coal. References: <1188614309.217040.86840@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188614309.217040.86840@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Professor1942 wrote: > On Aug 31, 5:18 pm, Bonzo wrote: >> I've single-handedly convinced around 5% of the population that the barrage of climate >> change information could be wrong. What have I got in return? The massive coal company >> that employs me pays me about $900 per week and yet they sell $40 million worth of coal >> per week. That shows you how much they appreciate those that are doing all of their heavy lifting. >> I'm fed-up and I'll work for any other fossil fuel producer that is willing to better my >> current salary. >> >> Regards. >> >> Bonzo. > > I agree, I only get $3000 a month from ExxonMobil to post shit here, > and my superiors are all driving Mercedes and BMW's. Maybe we need to > unionize. > You get that much? I'm going back for free gas for life. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Aug 31 23:57:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:57:05 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: Save the Environment Gay Senators >>> Al Gore References: <46d783f3@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188614490.729893.281060@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188614490.729893.281060@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Professor1942 wrote: > On Aug 31, 7:29 am, "Server 13" wrote: >> "Bonzo" wrote in message >> >> news:46d783f3@dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> >> >> >>> By Judi McLeod >>> Thursday, August 9, 2007 >>> QUOTE: >>> "If Danish King Christian X had invited American President Abraham Lincoln >>> to >>> Ilulissat to see the glacier in 1864, he would have been seeing what all >>> other >>> guests at the invitation of Danish politicians had seen--a glacier running >>> backwards since 1738," Hendriksen wrote CFP. >>> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover080907.htm >>> If Al Gore were in Professor Tim Ball >> 'Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished. lol > > Al Gore and Tim Ball were made for each other. If only they were > gay... > Do they hang out in public bathrooms? From - Sat Sep 01 12:00:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 12:00:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is there a consensus? References: <9fidnT4SefDc70TbnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com> <1188659009.621242.15690@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188659009.621242.15690@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > On Sep 1, 9:08 am, SeanR wrote: > >> Found this one floating around in blogdom. Anyone know if it's accurate? > > Yes indeed there is now a universal consensus that Americans are > idiots. Yet another scientific study is introduced by the genius of the Globalist, global warming, global peace, global government, global taxers, global economist, global free traders. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 01 15:14:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:14:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics.usa,talk.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: John Edwards tells Americans to>>(become a couch potato)give up gas-guzzlers References: <1188658194.271828.31080@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188672268.614614.217920@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188672268.614614.217920@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frogwatch wrote: > On Sep 1, 10:49 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com" > wrote: >> source:http://tinyurl.com/3x2w45 >> >> The Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards took a huge >> political gamble this week. He told an audience of unionists in >> Florida that they needed to make a big sacrifice: give up their four- >> wheel-drives in the interests of combating greenhouse gas emissions. >> >> "I think Americans are actually willing to sacrifice," Edwards said >> during a forum held by the International Association of Machinists and >> Aerospace Workers. "One of the things they should be asked to do is >> drive more fuel-efficient vehicles." Asked whether he meant give up >> their sports utility vehicles, or SUVs, the forthright North Carolina >> senator replied: "Yes." Edwards had better hope he has read the >> American psyche correctly. The statistics suggest he is dead wrong. We can't all be Chiefs, there have to be Indians too. So he has decided being a self proclaimed chief that he is, that you Indians can do without while he continues to live the AMERICAN dream. Just why are we all going to show up at our menial jobs now that we can't achieve anything. We all get to economize, just what I wanted. I went to bed dreaming of hybrid cars and turning off my air conditioner. Instead of a better life, it seems we are supposed to want a stoic life. As soon as The guy with the $750 hair cuts gives up all his worldly assets and starts baking bread at a Monastery, I'll start listening to his opinions(but with a mountain of salt, not a grain). Ignorant morons know, the surest way to kill capitalism is to shut down the hopes and ability to enjoy a better life and the fruits of our labor. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 01 15:44:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:44:09 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Hitler said>>Re: China says one-child policy helps protect climate>>6M less Jews helped References: <1188533776.022952.10910@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188533776.022952.10910@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit simple_language@yahoo.com wrote: > source: http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSL3047203920070830?sp=true > > > China, which rejects criticism that it is doing too little to confront > climate change, says that its population is now 1.3 billion against > 1.6 billion if it had not imposed tough birth control measures in the > late 1970s. > > The number of births avoided equals the entire population of the > United States. Beijing says that fewer people means less demand for > energy and lower emissions of heat-trapping gases from burning fossil > fuels. I see, NOW a human life has been reduced to a carbon unit... Hitler 6m Stalin 24m Mao 300+m Pal pot 1m These guys, one and all - have contributions to protect the climate, using this logic. Hero's one and all? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 01 15:55:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:55:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Nitrogen is the Primary "Greenhouse Gas" References: <1188499733.401053.168960@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1188563886.230478.56100@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188587577.177568.304890@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <5jtorvF18ejhU1@mid.individual.net> In-Reply-To: <5jtorvF18ejhU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Peel wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Aug 31, 5:38 am, Tom wrote: >> [ . . . ] >> >>> You are apparently complete impervious to information. >>> >>> This nitrogen thing is a new low. >>> >>> I tried to parody you deniers with my "CO2 don't exists because atoms >>> can't touch each other" posts. But you are beyond parody. I can't >>> come up with anything stupider that you. >> >> >> Note that Denky, Chemist, Dunderbar, WDA and others >> have not come up with a single citation supporting >> Denky's schizophrenic fantasy. Meanwhile, two >> encyclopedias, a textbook, and several other >> references all say that N2 is not a greenhouse gas. >> >> You're right Tom. They are beyond parody. >> They have a right to their own opinions, but >> when they make up their own facts, people >> just know that they are crazy. >> > > The problem with these people is that they clog up what should be a > serious and valuable newsgroup with their crackpot drivel, and waste the > time of yourself and other clearly knowledgeable people 20 times a day > with their pseudoscientific garbage. I come to this NG as a casual > visitor with some scientific background (degree in physics and > mathematics) and an interest in informing myself about global warming, > and have to wade through all their endless bickering. > Democracy ain't a pretty sight... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 01 23:28:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:28:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is there a consensus? References: <9fidnT4SefDc70TbnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com> <4cgCi.22315$eY.21151@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net> <_BjCi.51807$YL5.35465@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <46DA09C0.9060207@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Gardner wrote: > "SeanR" wrote in message > news:46DA09C0.9060207@comcast.net... >> Bill Habr wrote: >>> "SeanR" wrote in message >>> news:upGdnVE8eNdZM0TbnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> Bill Habr wrote: >>>>> About 238 (88%) of about 270 papers that somewhat address the consensus >>>>> agree with the >>>>> consensus. >>>>> >>>> How do you figure that? >>> Math. You aren't much good at word problems are you? >> And you appear to come up short when it comes to behaving like an adult >> during a political discussion. Try again. > > 74% of all statistics are made-up on the spot...a higher percentage here. That makes yours 27% likely or less to not be a fabrication? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 01 23:50:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:50:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit john fernbach wrote: > In a confusing climate, I think the scientists are probably right > > > John Llewellyn > Sunday September 2, 2007 > The Observer > > So, notwithstanding that I don't have as much evidence as I would > like, I would be prepared to contribute 1 per cent of my income to > abatement policies - mainly on behalf of my children and theirs - so > as to avoid something that I haven't experienced and probably wouldn't > like. I guess I'm just an economist. > > · John Llewellyn is senior economic policy adviser at Lehman Brothers > 27- 37% Fed income tax 4% state and 7% sales then Social security 7.5% and 3% medicare then ad your new 1% then... Some financial adviser, steal more than 50% of a man's income. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 00:03:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:03:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is there a consensus? References: <9fidnT4SefDc70TbnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com> <1188692983.330991.107230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188703936.965095.43020@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188703936.965095.43020@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Sep 1, 8:01 pm, "Tom Gardner" wrote: > [ . . . ] >> AGW has already been debunked. Only the 8 people on THIS NG still hang on. > > You forgot to add the roughly 2 billion people > who were involved in Live Earth. > > We just need to poll 1.99 billion of them since they managed to stay unaccounted for at the concert. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 10:10:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:10:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 - the terrible, terrible pollutant References: <1188422576.838245.293860@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188434703.684867.213050@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1188483947.473777.324340@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188488538.161457.3300@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188493393.985966.125590@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188495169.852472.119000@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188693226.076695.25670@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188738633.923320.135770@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188740070.200384.256930@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188740070.200384.256930@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: > On Sep 2, 8:10 am, kdth...@yahoo.com wrote: >> On Sep 1, 7:33 pm, john fernbach >> >> Go straight to hell, fernfag. What you are doing here is declaring war >> upon society. > > Keith is right. If more CO2 emissions and more GW lead to bigger > hurricanes and to greater problems with flooding and droughts in > different parts of the world, that's what society WANTS. Society has a weather machine and makes the weather what ever it wants? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 10:15:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:15:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: economic cooling>>Re: The Consumer is the Ultimate Boss -- If the Big Energy Companies Are Polluting References: <1188740333.745670.274030@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188740333.745670.274030@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: > And when the idiot green AGWers attack the coal and oil companies over > climate change - hey, YOU'RE THE BOSS, YOU THE CONSUMER. > > And so the idiot green AGWers are really attacking YOU! And YOUR > profits, which the corporate stockholders and the CEOs are holding in > trust for you. > > Doesn't that make you mad? > Go green and toss your 401k in the trash can instead of buying a hybrid? Kill the economy and who will buy a hybrid? Hurt the Oil co. that your 401k is in and what car will you drive? Attack the economy and you gain nothing... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 11:14:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 11:14:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The Consumer is the Ultimate Boss in Capitalism -- If the Big Ener References: <1188740333.745670.274030@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188743803.980202.78280@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188743803.980202.78280@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Sep 2, 9:38 am, Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile > wrote: >> And when the idiot green AGWers attack the coal and oil companies over >> climate change - hey, YOU'RE THE BOSS, YOU THE CONSUMER. >> >> And so the idiot green AGWers are really attacking YOU! And YOUR >> profits, which the corporate stockholders and the CEOs are holding in >> trust for you. >> >> Doesn't that make you mad? > > Isn't a little early to be that drunk? > I was thinking it was a little late to quit. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 12:56:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:56:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: economic cooling>>Re: The Consumer is the Ultimate Boss -- If the Big Energy Companies Are Polluting References: <1188740333.745670.274030@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <2AzCi.7737$Y7.6783@bignews3.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: >>> And when the idiot green AGWers attack the coal and oil companies over >>> climate change - hey, YOU'RE THE BOSS, YOU THE CONSUMER. >>> >>> And so the idiot green AGWers are really attacking YOU! And YOUR >>> profits, which the corporate stockholders and the CEOs are holding in >>> trust for you. >>> >>> Doesn't that make you mad? >>> >> >> Go green and toss your 401k in the trash can instead of buying a hybrid? >> Kill the economy and who will buy a hybrid? > > Buying a hybrid won't help the American economy much. It will help the > Japanese economy however. Point taken. I was looking at it from the point of view, that if the greenies kill our economy with their attempt to ban co2, we(average Joe's)will have to go cheap and get less green vehicles. Economic growth is needed to support eco-business ventures... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 02 23:05:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 23:05:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: global warming References: <1188742897.212371.231500@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <46db4342$0$15388$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46db4342$0$15388$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit W. D. Allen wrote: > Hello Sue, > > It has not yet been determined that global warming can be managed, or even > if the anthropomorphic (man made) portion needs to be managed. We may very > possibly spend billions of tax payer dollars and never achieve the control > that people like Al Gore believes is urgent. One example is the Kyoto > Protocol which the United States did not agree to. It was intended to reduce > the atmospheric temperature a fraction of one degree half a century from the > protocol initiation. So far hardly any of the signatories have met their > goals since compliance requires such extensive cuts in their respective > national gross products. > > As you can see global warming is a subject fraught with not only physical > science problems but also major political issues. > >> Hello,i'm a university student.. >> I'm doing my research about the effective way on how to manage the >> global warming.. >> Hope u can help me as soon as possible.. Set your air conditioner appropriately... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 11:50:33 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:50:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is there a consensus? References: <9fidnT4SefDc70TbnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com> <1188692983.330991.107230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188695436.776863.225620@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SeanR wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> >> I've shown that very probably this article >> is not accurate. Why should I then make >> advance plans for the day that pigs fly? >> > > You have done nothing of the sort. > > Additionally, you're inability to acknowledge that, if accurate, this > would demonstrate (or at least support the notion of) a lack of > consensus on AGW among the scientific community shows you to be more > zealot than scientist yourself. > > I'm beginning to think you're biggest concern is that this story might > be true. or that it might be believed by a bunch of brainless nature freaks that then use it to get laws enacted that will do tangible and real damage to our economy, and thereby really damage the environment by making it profitable enough for people to take the risk of really polluting and getting caught. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 11:55:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:55:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 at record low References: <1188819181.366259.84490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188831707.497490.235060@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188831843.172313.110430@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188831843.172313.110430@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rlayberry@hotmail.com wrote: > On 3 Sep, 16:01, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Sep 3, 4:33 am, rlaybe...@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>> CO2 in the atmosphere is now at a record low >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png >>> although there has recently been a tiny blip >>> upwards, >> When one looks on the 600,000,000 year time >> scale, yes. >> >> If one looks at a long enough timescale, all >> matter on earth made of elements heaver than >> hydrogen was fused together in the interior >> of stars. Following the same twisted logic >> that you are using with CO2's history, one >> could conclude that the Earth's temperature >> has cooled from the several million degree >> temperatures in the interiors of those stars. > > Life existed happily and comfortably in the time represented by that > graph. extrapolating back to the big bang is stupid and not > convincing as an argument. > Draw a line in the sand for technological advancement? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 11:58:13 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:58:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: it's only 2 degrees References: <1188385666.640370.18070@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188410462.691675.238160@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188508714.414122.149320@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188818691.242212.224660@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > rlayberry@hotmail.com wrote: >> On 30 Aug, 22:18, Fran wrote: >>> On Aug 30, 5:42 am, "altheim" wrote: >>> >>>> "Tunderbar" wrote: >>>>> On Aug 29, 6:07 am, rlaybe...@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>>> It's only a 2 degrees temperature rise scientists are talking >>>>>> about in >>>>>> 50 years! What a fuss over fuck all. If you can't cope with 2 >>>>>> degrees, get one of those electric hat fans. Jesus >>>>> That is a surprisingly insightful post. >>>> I'm not surprised at your cynicism. It is an argument that >>>> has been done to death, and the writer shows no insight >>>> at all else he would see that 2 degrees C is a big rise. >>> It's one of the more fatuous claims that does the rounds. The idea >>> that is put into people's heads is that climate on any given day is >>> exactly what it is now, plus 2 degrees over the reference point a long >>> time ago, which sounds comforting, especially when none of us was >>> about at the reference point. >> >> i must remember to pack my t-shirt. it's only 2 degrees, get a grip > > We've got a pretty good handle on the stupidity of Americans, thanks! > No doubt you've just scratched the surface... don't forget to look at the other side of that coin. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 11:59:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 11:59:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: CO2 at record low References: <1188819181.366259.84490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > rlayberry@hotmail.com wrote: > >> CO2 in the atmosphere is now at a record low >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png >> >> although there has recently been a tiny blip upwards, it's effect on >> the climate will be negligible > > Can you dumb it down a little more for the Americans? > > You're vastly underestimating their stupidity. > Yes, they really believe the rest of the world will grow a brain, how stupid are Americans? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 12:04:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:03:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Felix Yet another Category 5.>>Mt St Helen yet another References: <45JCi.72906$pu2.67105@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188813564.423085.69390@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188817713.366086.290250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188828832.995253.159600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Matt wrote: >> If the models are correct, why were we all told that, due to global >> warming, last year's hurrican season would be the worst ever, when it >> turned out to be a dud? > > Well, because it was an off year, they happen. Next year hurricane > forcasting is for senile emeritus crackpots like William Gray, real men > are interested in the five day hurricane track and intensity forecasts. > >> I looked in vain for an article where any of >> the climate experts said, "This is why we were completely wrong, and >> this is why you can trust the models for the future years regardless." > > The next year hurricane forecasts are pseudoscience, you're confusing > them with actual climate models, which only predict a generalized > increase in hurricane frequency and intensity, not pinned to any > particular year. > "pseudoscience, you're confusing them with actual climate models" just admit it's all modeling... which model will win at the Roulette wheel? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 12:11:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:11:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Ethanol was-->Re: Renewable Energy Wrecks Environment, Scientist Claims References: <46bc07b9@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1186731538.283500.221930@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46bc1ab0$0$18984$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1186733994.173026.81870@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46bc332e$0$29024$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1186755787.924614.222560@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <46bc9284$0$18984$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1186786237.428929.12210@d30g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <46bdc0b3$0$6277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1186888592.737987.24080@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1186891326.505317.286300@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> On Aug 11, 11:59 pm, "Peter Webb"wrote: >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> Also I've heard that diesel fuel has higher energy density than >>> petrol. So therefore, shouldn't we replace all petrol engines with >>> diesel? What's the energy density of peanut oil, the fuel that the >>> diesel engine was designed to run on? Which engine is more efficient, >>> petrol or diesel engine? Diesel engines are more efficient, and the >>> fuel has higher energy density. And yet, not every car has a diesel >>> engine. >>> Diesel gets better mileage than gasoline and gas gets better mileage than alcohol. Not to mention that you can make more diesel from a barrel of oil than you can gasoline. they did mix diesel and alcohol at one point. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 12:19:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:19:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy Subject: Re: Hierarchy of Global Warming Denier Rationalizations References: <1187900947.592010.273780@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1187922042.608945.245310@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1188825570.677175.131340@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188825570.677175.131340@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RustyKlich@yahoo.co.uk wrote: > On Aug 24, 7:30 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> On Aug 23, 3:26 pm, Peter Franks wrote: >>>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>>>> Hierarchy ofGlobalWarmingDenier Rationalizations. >>>>> [Also, known as "Dat oldGlobalWarmingDenial Blues.] >>> [ . . . ] >>>>> 2.Globalwarmingis happening, but it's not caused by humanity - so >>>>> we don't have to do anything. >>>>> 3.Globalwarmingis happening, it is caused by humanity, but it may >>>>> be a good thing - so we don't have to do anything. >>> [ . . . ] >>>> Hmmm. I'm between 2 and 3: >>>> 2-1/2.Globalwarmingmay or may not be happening and it may or may not >>>> be caused by humans, but why should I care either way. >>>> Although, I don't know if that qualifies as a "denier" -- does it? >>> I'm not sure if you should be called a "denier," >>> then. >> Ok. >> >>> A better word for you could be "apathetic." >> Ahhh, I'm hardly apathetic. >> >> I'm interested in (A)GW, but from an unbiased perspective, and most >> importantly, how it (first) affects me, and then (second) how it affects >> others, and then (third) how it affects the biosphere (everything else: >> animals, plants, etc.). >> >> So far, I can't get past my first question. >> >>> What's your age? Do you have any children? >> Relevance?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > GW doesn't follow your rule though. It affects (first) the biosphere. > Then (second) it affects others and then if you are still alive, it > affects you too late to do anything about it. Your perspective is also > hardly an unbiased one. It is biased by your own selfish outlook. That > you place yourself first is a case of "I'm allright, Jack...." That is > not apathetic, you're right, its ignorant > That's the natural order of nature... you think it's going to hurt you. You want the world to stop, just because your going to sweat or get rained on. I want it to be economical to drive to work, so I don't sweat on a bicycle or get rained on. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 12:27:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:27:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Is there a consensus? References: <9fidnT4SefDc70TbnZ2dnUVZ_v3inZ2d@comcast.com> <1188692983.330991.107230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188695436.776863.225620@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SeanR wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> or that it might be believed by a bunch of brainless nature freaks >> that then use it to get laws enacted that will do tangible and real >> damage to our economy, and thereby really damage the environment by >> making it profitable enough for people to take the risk of really >> polluting and getting caught. >> > > I'm not sure either side of this debate would feel comfortable with your > support. > > > Truth hurts, sometimes. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 13:48:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:48:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Height gene References: <1188840264.828665.60340@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188840264.828665.60340@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit meuharris wrote: > Is this a runner?The news today is that they have identified the > height gene . > In view of the precariousness of our situation on this planet woulsd > it be feasible or make sense to decrease the size of our offspring so > as to thereby increase the availability of the Earth's resources in > the future. > Is there a limit to how small we can be? > It would be like a Brave New Small (tiny?) World. > It's a small world, after all? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 15:04:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:04:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188841351.842578.47960@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Sep 3, 1:42 pm, Lloyd wrote: >> On Sep 1, 11:50 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> >> >> >>> john fernbach wrote: >>>> In a confusing climate, I think the scientists are probably right >>>> John Llewellyn >>>> Sunday September 2, 2007 >>>> The Observer >>>> So, notwithstanding that I don't have as much evidence as I would >>>> like, I would be prepared to contribute 1 per cent of my income to >>>> abatement policies - mainly on behalf of my children and theirs - so >>>> as to avoid something that I haven't experienced and probably wouldn't >>>> like. I guess I'm just an economist. >>>> · John Llewellyn is senior economic policy adviser at Lehman Brothers >>> 27- 37% Fed income tax >> Nobody pays that. The marginal rate isn't even that, much less the >> effective rate. >> >>> 4% state and 7% sales >> Some states exempt certain things, and it's not on what you save >> anyway. >> >>> then Social security 7.5% >>> and 3% medicare then ad your new 1% then... >>> Some financial adviser, steal more than 50% of a man's income. >> Most middle class pay an effective fed tax rate of around 15%. > > What's that got to do with the total tax burden, Tturd Packer? > The total tax burden is closer to 50%. > No more taxes, not one cent, not for anything. > It's a tax if the government requires it, mandated expenses to help global warming is a tax... keep adding mandated expenditures and "taxes" and eventually you will bankrupt the "average" citizen. People don't go bankrupt because their house is too expensive... they go bankrupt because taxes take more of their income than their house does. I'm happy your enjoying being "most" and only pay 15% FICA. But I didn't mention the additional taxes on toll roads, hotel bed tax, phone tax, property tax, In Missouri I paid tax for chickens and goats, building permits, impact fees, gasoline, cigarette, liquor, capital gains tax, fed and state park fees, travel passport, drivers license/tickets, tags and mandated insurance, unemployment insurance, Workers comp, I'm sure if I spent some more time I'd have more taxes worth mentioning.... You might have added that hookers, thieves and drug dealers don't pay FICA or SS or WC or Medicare.... Income taxing, taxes. That kind of tax is reserved for "legal workers". Add the NEW TAX, THAT WILL MANDATE US TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 15:13:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:13:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188841351.842578.47960@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > mrbawana2u wrote: >> On Sep 3, 1:42 pm, Lloyd wrote: >>> On Sep 1, 11:50 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> john fernbach wrote: >>>>> In a confusing climate, I think the scientists are probably right >>>>> John Llewellyn >>>>> Sunday September 2, 2007 >>>>> The Observer >>>>> So, notwithstanding that I don't have as much evidence as I would >>>>> like, I would be prepared to contribute 1 per cent of my income to >>>>> abatement policies - mainly on behalf of my children and theirs - so >>>>> as to avoid something that I haven't experienced and probably wouldn't >>>>> like. I guess I'm just an economist. >>>>> · John Llewellyn is senior economic policy adviser at Lehman Brothers >>>> 27- 37% Fed income tax >>> Nobody pays that. The marginal rate isn't even that, much less the >>> effective rate. >>> >>>> 4% state and 7% sales >>> Some states exempt certain things, and it's not on what you save >>> anyway. >>> >>>> then Social security 7.5% >>>> and 3% medicare then ad your new 1% then... >>>> Some financial adviser, steal more than 50% of a man's income. >>> Most middle class pay an effective fed tax rate of around 15%. >> >> What's that got to do with the total tax burden, Tturd Packer? >> The total tax burden is closer to 50%. >> No more taxes, not one cent, not for anything. >> > > It's a tax if the government requires it, mandated expenses to help > global warming is a tax... keep adding mandated expenditures and "taxes" > and eventually you will bankrupt the "average" citizen. People don't go > bankrupt because their house is too expensive... they go bankrupt > because taxes take more of their income than their house does. > > I'm happy your enjoying being "most" and only pay 15% FICA. But I didn't > mention the additional taxes on toll roads, hotel bed tax, phone tax, > property tax, In Missouri I paid tax for chickens and goats, building > permits, impact fees, gasoline, cigarette, liquor, capital gains tax, > fed and state park fees, travel passport, drivers license/tickets, tags > and mandated insurance, unemployment insurance, Workers comp, I'm sure > if I spent some more time I'd have more taxes worth mentioning.... > > You might have added that hookers, thieves and drug dealers don't pay > FICA or SS or WC or Medicare.... Income taxing, taxes. That kind of tax > is reserved for "legal workers". > > Add the NEW TAX, THAT WILL MANDATE US TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING. Death tax, gift tax... You guys add some. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 15:50:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:50:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Big Bang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The largest Star explosion ever seen, was not so long ago, we couldn't see it until the "energy" got here. Since it just arrived here recently, that could account for some temp gain on earth. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 23:16:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:16:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: John Edwards another hypocrite with a BIG house References: <1188473030.215264.29580@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188681258.619678.126140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188873537.276104.13720@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188873537.276104.13720@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snakehawk wrote: > On Sep 1, 4:14 pm, kingssm...@hotmail.com wrote: >> On Aug 30, 6:23 am, Hysterical leftwing global warmers must DIE >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> So he wants the average Joe to give up his SUV while he lives in a >>> house at least 10x the size of the average person's. >>> Another democrat elitist scumbag. >>> from CNN: >>> He also said as president he would ask residents to conserve energy >>> and said the nation needs to focus on being a leader in creating >>> alternative energy. He said he wants a national cap on carbon dioxide >>> emissions that is lowered each year. Co2 isn't pollution, it's the breath of life for plants. >>> "We are the worst polluter on the planet. We are 4 percent of the >>> world's population, we're putting out 25 percent of the world's >>> greenhouse gas,"Edwardssaid. "America's going to have to change." >>> Edwardswas asked during his appearance how he explained the >>> contradiction of asking Americans to sacrifice while he's living in a >>> 28,000-square-foot mansion. >>> He said he came from nothing, worked hard all his life, has always >>> supported workers and fought big corporations as a lawyer. >>> "I have no apologies whatsoever for what I've done with my life," he >>> said to loud cheers. "My entire life has been about the same cause, >>> which is making sure wherever you come from, whatever your family is, >>> whatever the color of your skin, you get a real chance to do something >>> great in this country." That's like a double negative, either we should all be allowed to enjoy the fruits of our labor and live in what ever square foot or CO2 consuming lifestyle that we can afford, or he needs to jump into the band wagon he is proposing as the solution to his problem and all live in a 700 square foot shack with no air conditioner. If 28,000 sq. ft is big enough for him then it will work for me too. >> Ya know, IfEdwardsor Gore sold their houses, moved into mud-huts, >> got rid of their cars and rode horseback, Republicans will still call >> them hypocrits over how the mud-huts use up land for planting and how >> horses generate methane gas. Right - so they need to walk or ride a bicycle, then build the same Eco-hut that the rest of the planet is expected to. If they build a 28,000 square foot mud hut, then they're not respecting the sperit of their own plans. > > They call John Edwards a hypocrit because while he claims to be > against corporate interests he actually forced some fabulously wealthy > insurance conglomerates to fork over a small percentage of their > bulging assets to a few working stiffs who had been made into hopeless > invalids by some overpaid and careless doctors. > > Edwards made his money honestly. His detractors prefer people like > Bush who inherited his, or Kerry who married his, or Clinton who made > his taking "campaign contributions" from foreign agents and > superwealthy international Jewish financiers. > Prefer might be too strong a word, accept is better, Clinton just sold the office and lied openly, Kerry couldn't even buy the office with his wife's money and Bush is just another from a family of ruling elites that win because the opposition is like Edwards and Kerry. > Edwards faces a couple of decades of propaganda financed by the > insurance companies to try to blame lawyers who represent legitimate > claimants for the burgeoning insurance premiums even while the > Insurance companies report record profits every year. > So your saying that Edwards has accomplished nothing? No need for propaganda, Edwards is his own worst enemy. > There are a lot of stupid people in the United States, people who can > be easily fooled by clever advertising. And those are the people > Edwards will have to overcome to get his message across. > He sure makes it easy for stupid people to see his hypocrisy. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Mon Sep 03 23:56:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:56:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: > Sound of Trumpet wrote: > >> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887441/posts >> >> >> Environemental Organizations Generate Green Guilt to Push More >> Population Control >> >> > If only the Republicans would rapture themselves away, pollution in the US would > plummet, there would be at least 1/3 more land available, the roads would be > 1/3 less crowded, the price of houses would fall, our schools would suddenly be > uncrowded, and that awful awful stench would go away. Problem is, if only Eco-crats were left on the planet, nothing would get done.... YOU'D BE ... (1) too busy going to, save the planet concerts, to do any work. (2) too stoned to rescue any whales. (3) sucking on the Government Tit cradle to grave. (4) happy to pay more in tax than you earn on any job you couldn't find. (5) too busy surrendering to everybody(including the French) to protest. (6) passing laws making rectal exams mandatory under penalty of death. (7) making incest child rape a penalty of house arrest ankle bracelets. (8) singing Koom-by-ya around a camp fire paid for with offsets. (9) silent on the news without someone else to blame your follies on. (10)patting each other on the back in between praying towards Mecca. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 00:01:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:01:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: Record Heat In The UK! References: <46da5e99@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188721509.779242.93060@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188809276.095573.7380@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Hogbin wrote: > wrote in message news:1188809276.095573.7380@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> On 3 Sep, 09:35, "Martin Hogbin" wrote: >>> "altheim" wrote in messagenews:Z4PCi.10360$6u5.9162@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >>> >>>> "Martin Hogbin" wrote: >>>>> In the second quote an experiment has 'apparently shown >>>>> that gamma radiation 'can' form ions in the atmosphere. >> Until the results of the CLOUD experiment at CERN Geneva come out, >> there are considerable uncertainties about one important assumption of >> the Cosmic Ray theory. viz: the effect of Cosmic Rays on Cloud >> formation. > > What about the bit above? It would be nice if they actually knew what makes clouds, before they dismiss them as having nothing to do with weather. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 00:03:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:03:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Big Bong References: <46DC8A1C.649E7A53@NOSPAMhotmail.com> In-Reply-To: <46DC8A1C.649E7A53@NOSPAMhotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kurt Lochner wrote: > Talk-n-Smog writhed nervously and blathered incoherently about: >> The largest Star explosion ever seen, was not so long ago, we >> couldn't see it until the "energy" got here. Since it just arrived >> here recently, that could account for some temp gain on earth. > > *>LOL!<* What are smoking today? > > --See subject header for details.. Your right, cow farts are so much more believable. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 00:17:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:17:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Nitrogen is the Primary "Greenhouse Gas" References: <1188789932.749743.261870@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <34fod393ajdblobjm97uto0sc9ic6pj05j@4ax.com> <1188854674.296375.138490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <7avod3p5qvum2d5v9irecq4296rl9uga0q@4ax.com> <1188862131.523205.298080@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dr. Planckenstein wrote: >>> Do not call me an AGWer, asshole. >>> I am trying my damn best to be their >>> number one enemy and to elucidate particular information to send them >>> to jail or to hell whichever comes first. I will never give up the >>> fight against them. If they get their bullshit into law, it is only >>> time to work for the repeal and the proper legal definitions of their >>> crimes against humanity, their embezzlement and perpetrated and >>> deliberate fraud. > > > I hope that you are a man because I want to French kiss you right on the > mouth. > > I am a man. Yes he is a man but he did have plastic surgery, after a tragic accident they grafted his sphincter in place of his lips... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 00:26:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:26:01 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: Memphis Isn't the Globe>>unless you've been there your whole life. References: <1187122327.189681.117990@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1187124919.257323.216890@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <0ilpd3hqs7r4m0n0nkdgsml2filgs3agdv@bbb.org> In-Reply-To: <0ilpd3hqs7r4m0n0nkdgsml2filgs3agdv@bbb.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 01:12:20 -0400, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" > sayd the following: > >> The earth's surface is warming. > > Your proof is a URL...laughable at best. > > You don't even understand what the fuck 'climate' means. > It means you can't predict the weather, so you need to call it something else that won't be provable(that your a liar) for at least a 100 years? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 00:31:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:31:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GLOBAL WARMING ANIMATION References: <1186085068.245369.228770@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <82k7b31krpcqutn8k6o9a8n7dhdu2b1ql2@bbb.org> <1187718804.293163.281170@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187811488.387546.35690@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 12:38:08 -0700, Lloyd sayd the > following: > >> So if you make a million dollars and your neighbor is trying to feed >> his family on $1000, giving you $1000 and your neighbor $1 seems >> fair? > > > Life is NOT fair or free. > > grow the fuck up. > Don't know about you but, if I earned a million, I actually expect to get a million - not $1000. As for my neighbor, that sorry bastard's been throwing his garbage on my lawn - polluting my family with his toxins, so I'd rather sue him than give him a $1. Fair is what you make of it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 09:00:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:00:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: OK Coppock prove I was penetrated by a Paraguayan Alpaca infront of 3000 cheering climate skeptics References: <773Di.30376$4A1.22245@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <1188883526.154503.5950@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1188891806.786205.10250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188891806.786205.10250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit chemist wrote: > On Sep 4, 6:25 am, Roger Coppock wrote: >> On Sep 3, 7:09 pm, Bonzo wrote: >> >>> Fact is Coppock I KNOW you cannot prove that I was penetrated by an alpaca >>> in front of 3000 cheering, climate skeptics at the 12th Annual Climate >>> Deniers Conference at Goose Bay Newfoundland in November 2003. You see >>> Roger, I happen to know that security confiscated all cameras and mobiles >>> at the door. That leaves you without a shred of evidence and my reputation >>> intact. >> And besides, everybody knows there aren't >> 3000 climate skeptics in the whole wide >> world. There ain't even half that many, >> SO THERE! ;-) > > There are many thousands in Britain .The general view is that > AGW is a political scam to make us acquiesce to more > taxes and a lowered standard of living. > What a deal, sign me up. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 11:15:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:15:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8H4Di.74840$pu2.63890@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188918390.133126.121960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188918390.133126.121960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit parsifal50@gmail.com wrote: > On 4 Sep., 05:56, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: >> >>> Sound of Trumpet wrote: >>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887441/posts >>>> Environemental Organizations Generate Green Guilt to Push More >>>> Population Control >>> If only the Republicans would rapture themselves away, pollution in the US would >>> plummet, there would be at least 1/3 more land available, the roads would be >>> 1/3 less crowded, the price of houses would fall, our schools would suddenly be >>> uncrowded, and that awful awful stench would go away. >> Problem is, if only Eco-crats were left on the planet, nothing would get >> done.... >> >> YOU'D BE ... >> (1) too busy going to, save the planet concerts, to do any work. >> (2) too stoned to rescue any whales. >> (3) sucking on the Government Tit cradle to grave. >> (4) happy to pay more in tax than you earn on any job you couldn't find. >> (5) too busy surrendering to everybody(including the French) to protest. >> (6) passing laws making rectal exams mandatory under penalty of death. >> (7) making incest child rape a penalty of house arrest ankle bracelets. >> (8) singing Koom-by-ya around a camp fire paid for with offsets. >> (9) silent on the news without someone else to blame your follies on. >> (10)patting each other on the back in between praying towards Mecca. > > Tell us: are you really that stupid or are you just "playing" stupid? > I'm ready to bet anything that the moment one of your idols, Ann > Coulter, Rush Limbaugh or O'Reilly, decides to be "environment"- > conscious, you'll be the first to become an eco-freak... > Besides, give us the name of one artist, one scientist, one writer or > one film-maker who thinks that environmental organisations are bad. > Face it: it sucks to be a mediocre moron like you, surrounded by other > mediocre morons... and you're just jealous... > Everyone loves those like you that strive to be the best at mediocrity. Can't name any "nearly famous"... O'Rei - who? No doubt your nemesis... I just enjoy a really good "dog and pony show". -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 11:21:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:21:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: All Good Christian American Fascists ... References: <1188915467.093067.290880@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <4oeDi.15$Gh4.10@newsfe12.lga> <1188917995.693350.6290@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > In 2002, Graham released his first printed book of original material, > Redneck Nation: How the South Really Won the War through Warner Books. > New York has tried to invade the south once again... we're holding on so far. We sold them hurricane ravaged swamp land. A few more hurricanes and they may all go home. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 11:22:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:22:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: can.general,alt.global-warming,mtl.general,dc.general Subject: Re: What happened to elementary logic? References: <1187621180.342956.137160@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1187793854.557440.158370@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <5fZyi.565$Pd4.314@edtnps82> <1187883266.989644.273600@l22g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <1188572400.076121.202280@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188918171.359251.178800@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188918171.359251.178800@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fabrikant wrote: > On Aug 31, 1:40 pm, "TOPposter." wrote: >> In prison your needs are taken care of, so in a limited way you are able >> work in your own field , are you doing that? >> > > Yes I do, I published more than 30 scientific articles while in jail. > You can check at the web of science or at google scholar. Were they linked to the manipulation of TIME? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 12:03:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:03:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188841351.842578.47960@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188912804.545962.45130@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188912804.545962.45130@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Sep 3, 2:13 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Death tax, gift tax... You guys add some. >> > When you're losing on the big picture, go for the fine particulars. > When you're losing on the fine particulars, insist on everyone taking > the broad view ... > Well, we're all of us playing rhetorical games, aren't we? You started a game while I was posting facts? > > You guys have an interesting reaction to the Observer article on the > evidence for GW, from an investment banker associated with Lehman > Brothers. It's logical ju-jitsu at work. Terrable that we "think on our own" huh. > > You guys pick out ONE sentence in his essay, the one about paying "1 > percent of my income" - whatever that refers to. Pointing out bullshit works best, one pile at a time. > > And you try to redirect the WHOLE DISCUSSION into a discussion about > CO2 taxes -- which then seques into a whole tangential discussion > about taxes in general. > No, I exposed his almost hidden hand, in my pocket. > Nice spin, guys! > > As a green socialist, I have to admit that I don't like consumption > taxes in general -- we should be taxing WEALTH, "stealing from the > rich" as the saying goes. Why? Partly in order to make up for all the > stealing that the rich have done from the poor already. If no one is rich enough to... start a business(it does take capital) then who would you work for? > And through a graduated income tax and a steep tax on the inheritance > of large fortunes, and a corporate income tax as well, we should then > ELIMINATE sales taxes to the maximum extent possible -- generally > speaking. What good is wealth if you don't spend any of it? I laugh at anyone living in a cave and eating rats that has a million dollars. Your full of crap. > Along with other Greens, I do think that a tax on CO2 consumption > should maybe be an exception. Given what we NOW know about CO2 and > climate -- and what no one could have known 150 years ago -- we NOW > know that we want to discourage CO2 emissions, just as we have decided > we want to discourage tobacco and alcohol consumption. Golly gosh I would have never thunk it. A tax you like, surprise , surprise , surprise, Sargent Carter.... > Solution - "Sin taxes" on stuff we don't like, on even consumption we > don't like. Including the consumption of fossil carbon fuels. > > But we should use the revenues from the sin taxes and the income tax > and the wealth inheritance tax to LOWER consumption taxes, or > eliminate consumption taxes, on most common consumer items. > You Socialist never never, lowered a tax. > I'm sure you guys are going to attack this idea, since I do think your > main purpose here is to discredit any efforts at curbing CO2 > emissions, not to argue against consumption taxes. If Co2 needed to be cut, why is tax, the first plan out of the box? Maybe NASA should be grounded and told to solve your presumed energy problem. Maybe being sentenced to a mundane task will encourage them to produce proof. > But that being said, I agree with 90% of your ideas on consumption > taxes, I imagine. > > Consumption taxes suck, because they're basically designed to steal > from the poor and the middle class and give to the rich. > > The richer you are, the bigger a proportion of your income you're > going to put into investments (usually - unless you have a HUGE drug > habit or too many mistresses), and the smaller a proportion you're > going to put into buying commodities. But you have to spend it or it's of no value at all. I don't care if you have a million dollars, if you don't spend it it's useless. Investing is "buying". > > Result: When the government raises its revenues by taxing > commodities, it's going to tax a bigger chunk of the poor person's > income and the middle class person's income than it's going to be > taxing of the rich person's income. Translation: the lower classes > get SCREWED. > > Similarly with Federal Social Security taxes, the way they've been > collected and used since the early 1980s. > > After a certain income level - don't recall just what it is at the > moment -- the collection of social security taxes starts to become > regressive; the rich don't pay taxes on nearly as large a fraction of > their income as the middle class. > > However, ever since Ronald Reagan plunged the US government deeply > into deficit spending in 1982, under his "economic recovery" tax act > of that year, the government has been partly repairing the hole in the > budget by diverting a certain amount of the Social Security Fund > revenues to the "general revenues" account. > You neglect to add in the "cold war dividend" won for us by Ronald Reagan, and then spent by Clinton who also "taxed the rich" more for eight years. Clinton had all that money to solve all the ills and the economy still tanked at the end of his reign. > In short, the government now collects more heavily from the middle > class for social security than it collects from the rich -- then uses > some of the SS money to support general spending. Which means it can > afford to keep income taxes low for the rich. under consumption, having money means nothing since to spend it you have to pay the same percentage as everyone else. > If you rightwingers want to call this a swindle, or at least partly a > swindle, I agree with you. > I'm not a right winger. > But what about that CLIMATE stuff, eh? Again, the main point of the > Observer piece is that we see a partner at Lehman Brothers, big > investment firm, looking at the AGW controversy "as an economist" and > saying well, what the IPCC scientists are saying makes sense. Then he can invest in Nike tennis shoes instead of Goodyear tires... But that too will be a guess, if he were right all the time... he would be someone you want to tax into bankruptcy. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 12:16:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote: > Let me guess, he voted Republican too. > > Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority > > http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7013869 > > CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) - A pastor accused of stealing from his > congregation has been sentenced to more than five years in prison. > > Reverend John Henry Walker was also ordered to pay more than $277,000 > in restitution to the government. He pleaded guilty to tax evasion, > bank fraud and lying to federal agents. > > Clinton Lied to Federal Agents? Taxes are just money. People fraudulently get and attempt to get money from me every day. Where is the "story" this is everyday stuff, like dog bites man news. This isn't a story, it's Propaganda to scare the people into sending money to the IRS. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 12:36:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:36:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8H4Di.74840$pu2.63890@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188922665.019254.89530@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188922665.019254.89530@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aol@aol.com wrote: > On Sep 3, 11:56 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: >> >>> Sound of Trumpet wrote: >>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887441/posts >>>> Environemental Organizations Generate Green Guilt to Push More >>>> Population Control >>> If only the Republicans would rapture themselves away, pollution in the US would >>> plummet, there would be at least 1/3 more land available, the roads would be >>> 1/3 less crowded, the price of houses would fall, our schools would suddenly be >>> uncrowded, and that awful awful stench would go away. >> Problem is, if only Eco-crats were left on the planet, nothing would get >> done.... >> >> YOU'D BE ... >> (1) too busy going to, save the planet concerts, to do any work. >> (2) too stoned to rescue any whales. >> (3) sucking on the Government Tit cradle to grave. >> (4) happy to pay more in tax than you earn on any job you couldn't find. >> (5) too busy surrendering to everybody(including the French) to protest. >> (6) passing laws making rectal exams mandatory under penalty of death. >> (7) making incest child rape a penalty of house arrest ankle bracelets. >> (8) singing Koom-by-ya around a camp fire paid for with offsets. >> (9) silent on the news without someone else to blame your follies on. >> (10)patting each other on the back in between praying towards Mecca. > > If you're not interested in saving the planet what ARE you interested > in? Rainforests are being decimated, coral reefs are dying, CO2 is > increasing, polar bears are drowning. Turning on the air conditioner > in your SUV may make you feel dominant over nature but you'll lose in > the end if you keep up that attitude. > I actually own many many acres of hardwood forest. I dive the reefs. Polar bears are still swimming, I guarantee that Alaska will be cold this year(my little brother was born there!). I've ridden motorcycles since I was 15, and I have yet to see any concrete evidence that I am causing any weather or temperature changes. So why Tax me for a guess or the new religion of Gaia. A co2 tax or offset or rationing... seems a bit rash when you can't explain the "story" well enough for myself and others to see your obvious links you say are present. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 12:49:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:49:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Idso de facto References: <1188916056.603474.293970@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188923115.107196.278520@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188923382.933861.301130@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <4MfDi.8$ZV7.2@newsfe04.lga> In-Reply-To: <4MfDi.8$ZV7.2@newsfe04.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Tunderbar wrote: > >> Changing subject lines is a practice that is very trollish. > > Don't you just wish you could change reality, it's so darn inconvenient. > and I thought it was a courtesy to inform people of a new direction that the thread could/was moving in? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 14:46:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:46:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188873033.427713.141800@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188930773.994630.299400@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188930773.994630.299400@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aol@aol.com wrote: > On Sep 4, 2:26 pm, BTR1701 wrote: >> In article <1188873033.427713.141...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, >> >> "a...@aol.com" wrote: >>> Actually, one upper-middle class American family pollutes more than a >>> small village of people in Africa. >>> American Family: >>> 1 or 2 cars (one likely an SUV) >>> Large house sucking up oil or gas to heat and cool. >>> Purchasing of tons of shit to furnish the house (clothes, furniture, >>> paint, magazines, newspapers, large screen tv's, toys, knick knacks, >>> etc). >>> Vacation travel, likely air travel. >>> AFRICAN VILLAGE: >>> None of the above. >> Yes, we should all live no better than average African villager. Great >> point. > > No, but maybe we should consume the same amount of energy as they do. > Swatting flies 24/7 is very energy intensive. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 14:55:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:55:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8H4Di.74840$pu2.63890@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188918390.133126.121960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BTR1701 wrote: > In article <1188918390.133126.121960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, > parsifal50@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 4 Sep., 05:56, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: >>> >>>> Sound of Trumpet wrote: >>>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887441/posts >>>>> Environemental Organizations Generate Green Guilt to Push More >>>>> Population Control >>>> If only the Republicans would rapture themselves away, pollution in the >>>> US would >>>> plummet, there would be at least 1/3 more land available, the roads would >>>> be >>>> 1/3 less crowded, the price of houses would fall, our schools would >>>> suddenly be >>>> uncrowded, and that awful awful stench would go away. >>> Problem is, if only Eco-crats were left on the planet, nothing would get >>> done.... >>> >>> YOU'D BE ... >>> (1) too busy going to, save the planet concerts, to do any work. >>> (2) too stoned to rescue any whales. >>> (3) sucking on the Government Tit cradle to grave. >>> (4) happy to pay more in tax than you earn on any job you couldn't find. >>> (5) too busy surrendering to everybody(including the French) to protest. >>> (6) passing laws making rectal exams mandatory under penalty of death. >>> (7) making incest child rape a penalty of house arrest ankle bracelets. >>> (8) singing Koom-by-ya around a camp fire paid for with offsets. >>> (9) silent on the news without someone else to blame your follies on. >>> (10)patting each other on the back in between praying towards Mecca. >> Tell us: are you really that stupid or are you just "playing" stupid? > > It's no more stupid than moron up above who claimed all the > environmental problems would be solved if all the Republicans were > raptured. > > Funny how ridiculous statements like that don't seem to tick your stupid > meter. The laws of reciprocity, no matter how stupid his crap is, he can't see it. But it's funny that others do. Which brings another one up, do unto others as they do unto you. Thanks for the help, I would say "the jig is up" but like Bart Simpson they do it over and over and over... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:03:30 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:03:29 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8H4Di.74840$pu2.63890@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188922665.019254.89530@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188929512.651882.246540@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188929512.651882.246540@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aol@aol.com wrote: > On Sep 4, 12:36 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> a...@aol.com wrote: >>> On Sep 3, 11:56 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: >>>>> Sound of Trumpet wrote: >>>>>> http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887441/posts >>>>>> Environemental Organizations Generate Green Guilt to Push More >>>>>> Population Control >>>>> If only the Republicans would rapture themselves away, pollution in the US would >>>>> plummet, there would be at least 1/3 more land available, the roads would be >>>>> 1/3 less crowded, the price of houses would fall, our schools would suddenly be >>>>> uncrowded, and that awful awful stench would go away. >>>> Problem is, if only Eco-crats were left on the planet, nothing would get >>>> done.... >>>> YOU'D BE ... >>>> (1) too busy going to, save the planet concerts, to do any work. >>>> (2) too stoned to rescue any whales. >>>> (3) sucking on the Government Tit cradle to grave. >>>> (4) happy to pay more in tax than you earn on any job you couldn't find. >>>> (5) too busy surrendering to everybody(including the French) to protest. >>>> (6) passing laws making rectal exams mandatory under penalty of death. >>>> (7) making incest child rape a penalty of house arrest ankle bracelets. >>>> (8) singing Koom-by-ya around a camp fire paid for with offsets. >>>> (9) silent on the news without someone else to blame your follies on. >>>> (10)patting each other on the back in between praying towards Mecca. >>> If you're not interested in saving the planet what ARE you interested >>> in? Rainforests are being decimated, coral reefs are dying, CO2 is >>> increasing, polar bears are drowning. Turning on the air conditioner >>> in your SUV may make you feel dominant over nature but you'll lose in >>> the end if you keep up that attitude. >> I actually own many many acres of hardwood forest. I dive the reefs. >> Polar bears are still swimming, I guarantee that Alaska will be cold >> this year(my little brother was born there!). I've ridden motorcycles >> since I was 15, and I have yet to see any concrete evidence that I am >> causing any weather or temperature changes. >> >> So why Tax me for a guess or the new religion of Gaia. A co2 tax or >> offset or rationing... seems a bit rash when you can't explain the >> "story" well enough for myself and others to see your obvious links you >> say are present. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at >> times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > So, you've looked out your window and haven't seen any evidence of > climate change. By the way, where did you download your degree in > Climatology. > I was in line behind you. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:10:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:10:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188841351.842578.47960@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188912804.545962.45130@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188925806.026007.268230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188925806.026007.268230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Sep 4, 12:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Whatever. > > "Taxes Bad, Greenhouse Warming Good." > > "Big Government Bad; Corporations that Control Government Good." > > "Reagan Good, But I'm not a Righwinger. Honest!" > > "Have swampland to sell you in Florida - good investment!" > > You're still changing the subject from climate change as much as you > can, aren't you, Dog? You think climate change is 1 degree shift? I think it's a bunch of nuts that can't read a thermometer, trying to steal my money while they distract me. Ignore the Man behind the curtain... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:14:22 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:14:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: "I guess I'm just an economist ..." References: <1188700397.004560.218350@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188841351.842578.47960@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188842767.881428.109470@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188912804.545962.45130@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188925806.026007.268230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188925806.026007.268230@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Sep 4, 12:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Whatever. "Big Government Bad; Corporations that Control Government Good." > > "Reagan Good, But I'm not a Righwinger. Honest!" I'm Equal Opportunity.... If any Leftists had done us any favors I'd mention it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:18:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:18:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Dramatic pictures that show how world maps change References: <1188916839.493430.219920@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188923030.156118.134160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188927859.818800.317840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188928554.656786.311160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188933257.886270.242460@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188933257.886270.242460@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David wrote: > On Sep 4, 1:55 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Sep 4, 12:44 pm, David wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sep 4, 12:23 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>> On Sep 4, 9:40 am, David wrote: >>>>> Daily Mailhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in... >>>>> Regards, >>>>> David Christainsen >>>>> Newton, Mass USA >>>> Here is a case much closer to home. >>>> http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/wetland/n_plains/n_plains.htm#de... >>>> Scroll down a bit for the landsat photos. >>>> Guess what? Some lakes dry up and others get wetter over time. Shit >>>> happens. >>> "The main culprits are climate change and ill-conceived irrigation >>> projects, the atlas's editors said. >>> They highlight the Aral Sea in central Asia, reduced by three-quarters >>> in the past 40 years, and Lake Chad, which has shrunk by 95 per cent >>> since 1963. >>> The Dead Sea is some 25 metres lower than it was 50 years ago."- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> Irrigation yes, climate change not likely. Global warming is a fraud. > > Climate change and global warming are not the same thing. > > Moreover, people are right to be concerned about the erosion of Cape > Cod, Massachusetts because of rising sea level. > > Perhaps your beef is with those that say carbon dioxide is the straw > that stirs the drink. > > They've been installing sea walls for a hundred years. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:23:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:23:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Dramatic pictures that show how world maps change References: <1188916839.493430.219920@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188923030.156118.134160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188927859.818800.317840@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188928554.656786.311160@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188933257.886270.242460@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <8ciDi.54890$Lu.34574@bignews8.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <8ciDi.54890$Lu.34574@bignews8.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > David wrote: >> On Sep 4, 1:55 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Sep 4, 12:44 pm, David wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 4, 12:23 pm, Tunderbar wrote: >>>>> On Sep 4, 9:40 am, David wrote: >>>>>> Daily >>>>>> Mailhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in... >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> David Christainsen >>>>>> Newton, Mass USA >>>>> Here is a case much closer to home. >>>>> http://academic.emporia.edu/aberjame/wetland/n_plains/n_plains.htm#de... >>>>> >>>>> Scroll down a bit for the landsat photos. >>>>> Guess what? Some lakes dry up and others get wetter over time. Shit >>>>> happens. >>>> "The main culprits are climate change and ill-conceived irrigation >>>> projects, the atlas's editors said. >>>> They highlight the Aral Sea in central Asia, reduced by three-quarters >>>> in the past 40 years, and Lake Chad, which has shrunk by 95 per cent >>>> since 1963. >>>> The Dead Sea is some 25 metres lower than it was 50 years ago."- >>>> Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Irrigation yes, climate change not likely. Global warming is a fraud. >> >> Climate change and global warming are not the same thing. >> >> Moreover, people are right to be concerned about the erosion of Cape >> Cod, Massachusetts because of rising sea level. >> >> Perhaps your beef is with those that say carbon dioxide is the straw >> that stirs the drink. >> >> > They've been installing sea walls for a hundred years. > > The one thing that doesn't change, is that everything changes. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 15:33:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:33:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Environmentalists Want Everyone To Become Eunuchs For The Green Kingdom References: <1188869632.996935.75800@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188873033.427713.141800@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188930773.994630.299400@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > aol@aol.com wrote: >> On Sep 4, 2:26 pm, BTR1701 wrote: >>> In article <1188873033.427713.141...@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, >>> >>> "a...@aol.com" wrote: >>>> Actually, one upper-middle class American family pollutes more than a >>>> small village of people in Africa. >>>> American Family: >>>> 1 or 2 cars (one likely an SUV) >>>> Large house sucking up oil or gas to heat and cool. >>>> Purchasing of tons of shit to furnish the house (clothes, furniture, >>>> paint, magazines, newspapers, large screen tv's, toys, knick knacks, >>>> etc). >>>> Vacation travel, likely air travel. >>>> AFRICAN VILLAGE: >>>> None of the above. >>> Yes, we should all live no better than average African villager. Great >>> point. >> >> No, but maybe we should consume the same amount of energy as they do. >> > Swatting flies 24/7 is very energy intensive. > Farming like they do is inefficient, basically their life style is so energy inefficient that millions have starved over the years. When you can't produce enough to stay alive, something is wrong. Not exactly a model I intend to follow.... Were you ever lived on a farm? Or in an African Village? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 18:10:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:10:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Klein wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:47 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > wrote: > >> Where is the "story" this is everyday stuff, like dog bites man news. > > And, if someone claims that dogs don't bite men, "dog bites man" news > disproves the claim. > >> This isn't a story, it's Propaganda to scare the people into sending >> money to the IRS. > > No, it's "propaganda" to prove that being Christian doesn't make > someone morally better than non-Christians. Who in the hell is so stupid to think that being Christian would make them less human? There are cops judges and priests that break laws... Show me the magic bullet that cures any group of criminal behavior? Only difference is whether the group expects better than "average" stats from their followers. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 23:36:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:36:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GLOBAL WARMING ANIMATION References: <1187718804.293163.281170@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187811488.387546.35690@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2007 01:27:42 -0400, "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" > sayd the following: > >> Now if you were an AmeriKKKan millionare who makes his money with stocks and >> bonds, with the proposed U.S. flat tax that exempts income earnings from >> tax, then you would get a million, > > > Why should the RATE be higher? > > A millionaire will ALWAYS pay more total amount of taxes than poorer > people, so the millionaire by God you bet paid his fair share. > > You and about 50,000 other people MIGHT pay what Gates has paid in > various taxes, might. > > All people think the rich make to much until they make a little more > and notice the damn wallet dog of socialism bleeding them dry. > > > Try your idea out with the houses near you, make everyone pay exactly > the same for lawn care services, no matter the size or shape of lawn. > See how long it is before Pedro requests more money because all those > lawns aren't the same size and some take as much time as all the > others combined. > > Good old ugly Americanism strikes back.... > > Get a new keyboard.. > LIEBERALS > > seventh grade percentages. All you need is a clue or a calculator. I'll cut lawns if I can get 1% of the property value per year. I'll do million dollar houses on the ocean. At 20 million up to 40 million for Tiger woods estate, that will be all I need to do. That's how taxes work. They steal 40% to 55% of our income. So you don't need to have a special rate to soak the rich, they get soaked by the same percentage as everyone else, in a fair system. They make a hundred times more money than you and pay a hundred times more tax than you also. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Tue Sep 04 23:39:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:39:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology Subject: Re: GLOBAL WARMING ANIMATION References: <82k7b31krpcqutn8k6o9a8n7dhdu2b1ql2@bbb.org> <1187718804.293163.281170@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1187811488.387546.35690@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Crackles McFarly wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:31:51 -0400, Talk-n-Dog > sayd the following: > >> Fair is what you make of it. > > > Fair is the RESULT of life's activities without constraints over > activities which insult, harm or place others in prison. > > That is fair. > > Socialism is about as unfair a situation as one can get. Liberals call > it democracy but the adult people call it what it really is, > Socialism. > > I'll run with that. Socialist need to be herded into a pit and given the chance to help the greater good, then see if they believe in it. How many will crawl out of the pit and go home? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 00:12:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:12:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: John Edwards another hypocrite with a BIG house References: <1188473030.215264.29580@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1188681258.619678.126140@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1188873537.276104.13720@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188949676.235387.108790@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188949676.235387.108790@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit snakehawk wrote: > On Sep 3, 10:16 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> snakehawkwrote: >> >> That's like a double negative, either we should all be allowed to enjoy >> the fruits of our labor and live in what ever square foot or CO2 >> consuming lifestyle that we can afford, or he needs to jump into the >> band wagon he is proposing as the solution to his problem and all live >> in a 700 square foot shack with no air conditioner. If 28,000 sq. ft is >> big enough for him then it will work for me too. >> >>>> Ya know, IfEdwardsor Gore sold their houses, moved into mud-huts, >>>> got rid of their cars and rode horseback, Republicans will still call >>>> them hypocrits over how the mud-huts use up land for planting and how >>>> horses generate methane gas. >> Right - so they need to walk or ride a bicycle, then build the same >> Eco-hut that the rest of the planet is expected to. If they build a >> 28,000 square foot mud hut, then they're not respecting the sperit of >> their own plans. >> >> >>> They call John Edwards a hypocrit because while he claims to be >>> against corporate interests he actually forced some fabulously wealthy >>> insurance conglomerates to fork over a small percentage of their >>> bulging assets to a few working stiffs who had been made into hopeless >>> invalids by some overpaid and careless doctors. >>> Edwards made his money honestly. His detractors prefer people like >>> Bush who inherited his, or Kerry who married his, or Clinton who made >>> his taking "campaign contributions" from foreign agents and >>> superwealthy international Jewish financiers. >> Prefer might be too strong a word, accept is better, Clinton just sold >> the office and lied openly, Kerry couldn't even buy the office with his >> wife's money and Bush is just another from a family of ruling elites >> that win because the opposition is like Edwards and Kerry. >> >>> Edwards faces a couple of decades of propaganda financed by the >>> insurance companies to try to blame lawyers who represent legitimate >>> claimants for the burgeoning insurance premiums even while the >>> Insurance companies report record profits every year. >> So your saying that Edwards has accomplished nothing? >> No need for propaganda, Edwards is his own worst enemy. >> >>> There are a lot of stupid people in the United States, people who can >>> be easily fooled by clever advertising. And those are the people >>> Edwards will have to overcome to get his message across. >> He sure makes it easy for stupid people to see his hypocrisy. >> > > Stupid people are quick to shout hypocrit without lookinginto the > facts. The residential area of Edwards's home is 10,000 square feet > and the place is built with the latest techniques to take advantage of > solar energy. Edwards's new SUV is a hybrid that the manufacturer > says will get over 30 miles to a gallon in city driving. So anyone > with a brain can check it out and see that even though Edwards > provides luxury for his family--as he has every right to do--he > obviously takes environmental concerns seriously. > SO rather than live in a 2500sq ft house like most, built with "new technology" that would make it be like the rest of us will be in the next years as we upgrade, Edwards needs to be special? Hybrids don't get better mileage over the road, so if he gets 30 in town that's as good as it gets. They use the battery around town, but on the highway they run the gasoline generator to keep moving at 70 mph. We need to tax the rich(remember) it's just like that. Besides - Edwards and the ECO-Crats are so worried about CO2, they should be fighting to be the pioneers to downsize their extravagant lifestyles. It makes him disingenuous, to say the least. If he truly wants his kids to live he wouldn't put them in a house with 7500sq ft of wasted space. Hence he must believe that the end is *NOT coming. Don't preach at me to live on less, while you live in a castle... Waste is waste, I'll live on the same Co2 units that Edwards is, and if I waste it in a big car but have a little house, who the hell are y'all, to decide it's more wasteful than having a huge house and a hybrid car. It's still waste, because either one could have changed their lifestyle. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 00:17:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:17:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188279957.493824.61660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d3cf59$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188287342.613374.281130@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46d3da49$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188292168.187942.143230@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188300819.123125.93120@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188369108.884566.165850@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d53f16$0$13845$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188388913.208082.311740@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit fish.. wrote: >>>> Fran >>> Do you eat fish?- >> No. I was a meat eater long after giving up fish. >> >> Fran >> >> > > > BIG MISTAKE.... If it crawls eat it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 00:28:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:28:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Cattle Produce More Greenhouse Gases Than Driving References: <46d3b162$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1188279957.493824.61660@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d3cf59$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188287342.613374.281130@r23g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <46d3da49$0$14405$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188292168.187942.143230@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188300819.123125.93120@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188369108.884566.165850@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <46d53f16$0$13845$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1188388913.208082.311740@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188965898.410366.235090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1188965898.410366.235090@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Sep 5, 2:11 pm, fish.. wrote: >>>>> Fran >>>> Do you eat fish?- >>> No. I was a meat eater long after giving up fish. >>> Fran >> BIG MISTAKE.... > > I once went fishing with my father under Tom Ugly's bridge. We dragged > some poor thing out of the water, and as an 8-year-old, I was > confronted with the sight of an animal the size of my father's hand > drowning in air. > > I insisted he remove the hook and throw it back and from that time on, > I couldn't stomach eating fish. > Are amoeba living animals? How big do animals need to be before you can't eat them? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 16:11:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:11:32 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Silencing dissent References: <1189002455.844779.260100@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189013985.770340.123490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189015972.653348.30470@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Tunderbar wrote: > >> I say we stick >> them all into stocks with fraud written on the foreheads with >> indelible red ink. > > Er ... isn't that fascism? > No that's Socialist, Fascist would "stick them all into stocks with fraud written on the foreheads with indelible red ink." -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 16:38:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:38:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Once upon a time>>>Re: What is the Mechanism of GHG warming? References: <1188983539.455045.211770@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:12:19 -0700, chemist wrote: > >> Can someone explain in simple terms how CO2 warms the earths surface. > > It doesn't. It slows the cooling. The question is "How much?". > Does Co2 slow cooling and how much, and if so, then at what concentrations will it actually be significant? More Co2 may not mean significantly more retention time. My soda-pop which has a lot of co2 in it, doesn't get hotter or stay hot longer than the rest of the non carbonated drinks? Then all said and done the "effects on the weather" are another story. Basically they start out... Once upon a time, Global warming was killing millions of people when Super ECO-crat - the caped inflamer, began his rant to rid the world of carbon use.... and they all lived happily ever after. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 16:54:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:54:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics Subject: Re: Hysterical Global Warming Denialist Loons Weep Pathetically As Exxon Admits AGW Exists! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RichA wrote: > Looks like Exxon are a bunch of Al Gore loving liberal tree huggers who are > in on the big conspiracy where the evil scientists are raising billions for > themselves and out to bankrupt western Capitalism at the same time!!! > Exxon wants the oil market closed to competition, one better is to drive prices up, after all it's better to ship a gallon of diamonds to customers for a bunch of money than ship a gallon of oil for a dollar. If they can get more money and ship less product that saves the cost of building new equipment, and makes old equipment cheaper to maintain on a per unit cost evaluation. That leaves more profit for Exxon. A win, win situation for Exxon, join with Al Gore and make Billions in guaranteed profit, no competition and unlimited price inflation. Damn those guys are smart. If I had million$ invested in Exxon stock, I'd be Al Gores buddy too. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Wed Sep 05 16:57:58 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:57:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Flacks for denialists References: <1189016061.425492.25550@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189019272.365466.170060@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189020795.664149.156060@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189020795.664149.156060@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 5, 2:09 pm, kT wrote: >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> here we go with the censorious trolling again. >> You're paranoid. Editing one's post is called freedom. >> >> I'm not editing your posts, I'm editing mine, do you get it? >> >> -- >> Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html > > You are editing the subject line which leads to confusion amongst > those following the discussion. If you do not want to discuss the > topic under the original posted subject line, then start your own > seperate discussion using whatever subject line you wish. > I'm confused.... Who edited what and why? If you can't now then when can you? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Sep 06 03:40:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:40:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Hurricane Felix Forecasts Mostly Failed, Experts Say References: <1189023493.005609.79260@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Tunderbar wrote: > > Actually, it had the movement almost exactly right, it went just > slightly south of the forecast track. Those people had plenty of time to > prepare for this thing. They've had years to get ready for category 5s. > But they were`sitting around with their TV's off so they could help their leftist buddy, Al Gore save some Co2. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Thu Sep 06 22:16:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 22:16:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.geo.geology,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ...Hurricane Felix Yet another Category 5. References: <45JCi.72906$pu2.67105@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <1188813564.423085.69390@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1188817713.366086.290250@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1188828832.995253.159600@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <47e719fe.1721838633@news.giganews.com> <4z3Di.54317$Lu.44233@bignews8.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jonathan wrote: > "Bill Ward" wrote in message > news:pan.2007.09.06.04.28.02.881351@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com... >> On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 19:47:53 -0400, Jonathan wrote: >> >> >> One of the most fascinating characteristics of the human mind is its >> innate capability to perceive order in truly random sequences. > > > To see how random networks can self organize, you should > read this tutorial on random boolean networks. Oxymoron...? Random organization > > "The goal of this tutorial is to promote interest in the study of > random Boolean networks (RBNs). These can be very interesting > models, since one does not have to assume any functionality > or particular connectivity of the networks to study > their generic properties. Like this, RBNs have been used > for exploring the configurations where life could emerge. > The fact that RBNs are a generalization of cellular automata > makes their research a very important topic." > http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/nlin/pdf/0408/0408006v3.pdf -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Sep 07 12:23:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:23:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: The Whole Global Warming Thing Is Off. References: <1189093259.376615.280150@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189095793.310337.254410@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <46e0bc64$0$24576$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <46e0bc64$0$24576$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "aol@aol.com" wrote in message > news:1189095793.310337.254410@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >> On Sep 6, 11:40 am, Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Sep 6, 10:08 am, kT wrote: >>> >>>> It's fall now : >>>> http://www.lacrossetribune.com/articles/2007/09/06/opinion/letters/04... >>>> Are these people fucking dumb, or what. Why would a newspaper publish >>>> this crap, are they as fucking dumb as the people they sell rags to? >>>> -- >>>> Get A Free Orbiter Space Flight Simulator >>>> :http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html >>> No dumber than people who look for signs of global warming at the >>> behest of a newspaper. Or those who are surprised when they get frost >>> bite when trying to hold a protest in the Arctic. Or those who blindly >>> follow the IPCC climate modellers and environmental activists. >>> >>> Generally, people are stupid. So stupid that they'll believe almost >>> anything that is presented to them as "science" or a "consensus". >> Why do Global Warming deniers HATE science? Waz up with that? >> > > Science are guesses when you can't figure it out. You get to make up the > rules too as you go. Dark matter for example. Science is WRONG as often as it's RIGHT. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Fri Sep 07 12:30:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:30:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: A Different View of Global Warming References: <1188939431.220809.143650@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1188939608.716211.62400@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189019227.892157.68730@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <46E12C82.A95559EB@NOSPAMhotmail.com> <1189177929.210369.146150@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <%EeEi.108$0l.61@newsfe12.lga> In-Reply-To: <%EeEi.108$0l.61@newsfe12.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > leonard78sp@gmail.com wrote: > >> Global warming is a myth and does not exist. On the other >> hand "Climate Change" is functioning as it has for 5 million >> years or more. > > Can you dumb it down a little for the Christian redneck hillbillies? Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sat Sep 08 22:56:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:56:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Remember Ted Danson's Doom & Gloom Back In 1988? References: <46e33414$0$22933$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1189302818.281535.184850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e35765$0$28872$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46e35765$0$28872$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marty wrote: > I kind of remember alot of doom and gloom since I was a kid. Including > the following: > > 1: Running out of fresh water > 2: Too many people to feed > 3: Global cooling > 4: Aids killing hundreds of million > 5: anti-biotic resistant bacteria > 6: Ozone hole UV driven cancers > 7: Nuclear winter > 8: Sars, bird flu, ebola, etc... > 9. Running out of oil, zinc, natural gas etc... > 10.deforestation of the amazon leading to disaster > 11.Acid Rain > 12. Dioxin > 13. Cloning > 14. Death of the Oceans > Add your own: > > The number one cause of death: > > Living Rapture Y2K Meteor Yellow hoards Military Bio Weapons flying monkeys.... ooppss that was in "my" nightmares. langoliers... Steven Kings nightmares. Devolution Artificial intelligence World War III "The Oil wars" Crop failure due to Soil erosion and depletion It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, drunks and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 09 00:03:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:03:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from these volcanoes. Were all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 09 00:09:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:09:12 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Remember Ted Danson's Doom & Gloom Back In 1988? References: <46e33414$0$22933$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1189302818.281535.184850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e35765$0$28872$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <6iJEi.80515$pu2.3801@bignews1.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <6iJEi.80515$pu2.3801@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Marty wrote: >> I kind of remember alot of doom and gloom since I was a kid. Including >> the following: >> >> 1: Running out of fresh water >> 2: Too many people to feed >> 3: Global cooling >> 4: Aids killing hundreds of million >> 5: anti-biotic resistant bacteria >> 6: Ozone hole UV driven cancers >> 7: Nuclear winter >> 8: Sars, bird flu, ebola, etc... >> 9. Running out of oil, zinc, natural gas etc... >> 10.deforestation of the amazon leading to disaster >> 11.Acid Rain >> 12. Dioxin >> 13. Cloning >> 14. Death of the Oceans >> Add your own: >> >> The number one cause of death: >> >> Living > > > Rapture > Y2K > Meteor > Yellow hoards > Military Bio Weapons > > flying monkeys.... ooppss that was in "my" nightmares. > langoliers... Steven Kings nightmares. > > Devolution > Artificial intelligence > World War III "The Oil wars" > Crop failure due to Soil erosion and depletion > > It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. Newest Doom And gloom I just dreamed it. Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from these volcanoes. Were all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - From - Sun Sep 09 00:31:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:31:49 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The Great Siberian Explosion Of 1908 References: <46e35784$0$22866$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e35784$0$22866$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Harley wrote: > Something like this reoccurring is limitlessly more imminent than > anything the left-wing kooks and their false religion of Gore-Bull > Warming can muster. > > http://www.psi.edu/projects/siberia/siberia.html > > Harley Priority? Like fear of flying, when your much more likely to die in a car on the way to the airport? EcoNeurosis: Many parents make the mistake of not picking up their child sufficiently out of fear of "spoiling" him. By ignoring him, this is precisely what they do, and later they will be swamped by the child's insatiable demands for symbolic substitutes — until the day they crack down on him. The consequences of that are both inevitable and dreadful. http://www.continuum-concept.org/reading/neurosis.html "insatiable demands for symbolic substitutes" They're fear of the Eco system falling apart around them? Sounds like the Eco Nuts are trying to symbolically fix their own little crumbling worlds.... I feel their pain, they had a chaotic childhood or an experience that has triggered this insatiable fear. But the point is, as Steven Guilbeault of Greenpeace puts it: "Global warming can mean colder, it can mean drier, it can mean wetter, that's what we're dealing with." Got that? If it's hot, that's a sign of global warming, and, if it's cold, that's a sign of global warming. And if it's just kind of average - say, 48F and partially cloudy, as it will be in Llandudno today - that's a sign that global warming is accelerating out of control and you need to flee immediately because time is running out ! "Time is running out to deal with climate change," says Mr Guilbeault. "Ten years ago, we thought we had a lot of time, five years ago we thought we had a lot of time, but now science is telling us that we don't have a lot of time." Really? Ten years ago, we had a lot of time? That's not the way I recall it: "Time is running out for the climate" - Chris Rose of Greenpeace, 1997; "Time running out for action on global warming Greenpeace claims" - Irish Times, 1994; "Time is running out" - scientist Henry Kendall, speaking on behalf of Greenpeace, 1992. Admirably, Mr Guilbeault's commitment to the environment extends to recycling last decade's scare-mongering press releases. "Stop worrying about your money, take care of our planet," advised one of the protesters' placards. Au contraire, take care of your money and the planet will follow. For anywhere other than Antarctica and a few sparsely inhabited islands, the first condition for a healthy environment is a strong economy. In the past third of a century, the American economy has swollen by 150 per cent, automobile traffic has increased by 143 per cent, and energy consumption has grown 45 per cent. During this same period, air pollutants have declined by 29 per cent, toxic emissions by 48.5 per cent, sulphur dioxide levels by 65.3 per cent, and airborne lead by 97.3 per cent. Despite signing on to Kyoto, European greenhouse gas emissions have increased since 2001, whereas America's emissions have fallen by nearly one per cent, despite the Toxic Texan's best efforts to destroy the planet. Al Gore is preying on the weakness of others, it's tantamount to telling a clean freak that germs are climbing up their arm... I thought I was the first to see the EcoNeurosis, I wasn't. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536327/posts -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How-to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. -hillbilly- From - Sun Sep 09 00:38:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:38:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The Great Siberian Explosion Of 1908 References: <46e35784$0$22866$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1189312226.787574.165200@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189312226.787574.165200@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Professor1942 wrote: > On Sep 8, 9:08 pm, "Harley" wrote: >> Something like this reoccurring is limitlessly more imminent than anything >> the left-wing kooks and their false religion of Gore-Bull Warming can >> muster. >> >> http://www.psi.edu/projects/siberia/siberia.html >> >> Harley > > That's pretty cool, but I don't see what it has to do with gorebull > warming. > We'll all die from an asteroid before global warming will be able to kill just a few million us. Play the Odds, roll the dice, kiss it good-by and watch James Bond "MoonRaker". -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. From - Sun Sep 09 00:57:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 00:57:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: And now for the ONE TRUE RELIGION - References: <1189313752.896383.94110@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189313752.896383.94110@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > It's the worship of COAL, OIL & AUTOMOBILES! > > To this True Religion, we must be ready to make ANIMAL SACRIFICES, > brothers and sisters. And we must be ready to sacrifice our CHILDREN, > if need be. And in the end, we must be willing to sacrifice our > planet ... > > Because Coal, Oil and Automobiles are SACRED. > I like my Chevy, but sacred? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapsis deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 09:52:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 09:52:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and >> temp to change... the polar ice to melt, > > Same lies, different day. No just another explanation for a a problem that doesn't exist, I was simply placing out there, the argument that CO2 and heat can be delivered in a different route than from HUMANS. TAX~ the damn volcanoes. I'm a bit sarcastic... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 10:05:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:05:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189317857.342264.231730@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189317857.342264.231730@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Sep 8, 9:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and >> temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from >> these volcanoes. >> >> Were all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. >> > This newsgroup has seen the fossil fools produce > some very very strange explanations for a warming > world. This, one of the strangest of those stories, > was the first excuse for the Carbon fuel industry > published on this newsgroup. It's also one of the > easiest lies to debunk. > > The current warming and planetary radiation imbalance > is the result of about 3 Watts for every square meter > of the Earth's surface. The surface area of the Earth > is 5.11e+14. Thus, about 1300 megatons of energy > per hour are required to explain. Global warming. > > Would you please locate these volcanoes that dissipate > the energy equivalent of the entire US nuclear arsenal > every two hours? Give us longitude and latitude please. > It should be very easy to locate the equivalent of 70,000 > Hiroshima's an hour. It certainly can't hide. > > The Marianas trench and the the Puerto Rico Trench, the Great Blue Hole in Belize... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapsis deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 14:27:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:27:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189317857.342264.231730@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:i5TEi.38625$wN3.14349@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> Roger Coppock wrote: >>> On Sep 8, 9:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and >>>> temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from >>>> these volcanoes. >>>> >>>> Were all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. >>>> >>> This newsgroup has seen the fossil fools produce >>> some very very strange explanations for a warming >>> world. This, one of the strangest of those stories, >>> was the first excuse for the Carbon fuel industry >>> published on this newsgroup. It's also one of the >>> easiest lies to debunk. >>> >>> The current warming and planetary radiation imbalance >>> is the result of about 3 Watts for every square meter >>> of the Earth's surface. The surface area of the Earth >>> is 5.11e+14. Thus, about 1300 megatons of energy >>> per hour are required to explain. Global warming. >>> >>> Would you please locate these volcanoes that dissipate >>> the energy equivalent of the entire US nuclear arsenal >>> every two hours? Give us longitude and latitude please. >>> It should be very easy to locate the equivalent of 70,000 >>> Hiroshima's an hour. It certainly can't hide. >>> >>> >> The Marianas trench and the the Puerto Rico Trench, the Great Blue Hole >> in Belize... > > You have omitted your cites. The rim of fire, the Tsunami that flattened the Thailand coast... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 14:31:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 14:31:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Server 13 wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:YUSEi.38618$wN3.14361@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> Server 13 wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >>>> The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and >>>> temp to change... the polar ice to melt, >>> Same lies, different day. >> No just another explanation for a a problem that doesn't exist, I was >> simply placing out there, the argument that CO2 and heat can be >> delivered in a different route than from HUMANS. > > Which is, of course, obvious to any 6th grader. > > No, you were blamng volcanoes (real bone-stupid shit, there), with no > cites at all. You have a problem with original thought don't you. People cite the Bible... BFD you can cite Dr. Suise "One Fish Two Fish Dead Fish New Fish" Try to use your own Synapses. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 17:01:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:01:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Nitrogen is the Primary Greenhouse Gas References: <1189103050.326934.302540@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189107801.572692.247740@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189109581.403879.138830@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189120415.886764.146930@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189188471.470234.124340@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <0KiEi.14211$3x.7383@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> <1189286814.356234.196400@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189289081.876711.296320@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189330010.050362.103580@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189367361.203908.86530@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189369425.371468.7610@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189369425.371468.7610@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fact Attack wrote: > cutting down all the trees makes the earth hotter. Just go stand > under a tree on a hot day, it's sooo much cooler than in the middle of > a parking lot. the leaves are insulation. Also trees break up the > wind, you got this wind now that blows all the time thanks to the > assholes chopping all the trees down. > hello???? the tree is absorbing the HEAT that you would be, had you been taller than the tree. The heat still gets to earth, no mater what - the energy is absorbed by. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 22:49:49 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:49:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: And now for the ONE TRUE RELIGION - References: <1189313752.896383.94110@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189387131.703108.76840@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46e48728$0$22928$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e48728$0$22928$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > Then my brother in anti-petrolium religious faith. Let's both rejoyce > together and denounce Al Gore and John Edwards as they hypocrites they > are for preaching the religion of Gore-Bull Warming while brainwashing > and lying to the flock as they are not walking the walk. > > You in? > > Harley Didn't Jim Jones tell his followers that sex was bad, then he indulged in it with some of those females.... then he preached self suffeciency and survival then served up grape Kool-ade to everyone and saved the planet from that thousand carbon units wasting CO2, they were aborted. Then there was Waco, where preaching survival ended didn't work out so well either. More CO2 using carbon wasting units aborted. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 22:52:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:52:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: And now for the ONE TRUE RELIGION - References: <1189313752.896383.94110@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189372876.176312.280520@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189387287.762167.248610@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189387287.762167.248610@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Sep 9, 5:21 pm, chemist wrote: >> On Sep 9, 9:14 pm, "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote: >> >> What percent of crude oil goes into making fuels? >> 25 to 40% >> What is crude oil used for in addition to fuels? >> All useful plastics,detergents,dyestuffs,pharmaceutical drugs, >> fertilisers, paints ..at least half the goods we use . The carbon in >> them >> isn't turned to CO2 >> We would still need Oil and the Oil companies even if we cut CO2 >> production to Zero. >> That is why the Oil companies subsidise Skeptics less >> than lying than the lying environmentalists . >> We will also need coal to produce hydrogen in a >> hydrogen economy. > > As I said to Paul Lehmann, you guys are awfully touchy. All I do is > suggest that the worship of oil, coal and automobiles is the TRUE > RELIGION, as opposed to the FALSE RELIGION of environmentalism that > your colleagues are complaining about - all I do is take your side of > the debate -- and you get all grouchy! > > What's the matter with you guys? Could this be a case of "methinks > the lady doth protest too much?" > Get some new material, this is getting as boring as watching the globe warming. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 22:55:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:55:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Sort of off topic - Al Gore References: <46e2ce4b$0$24576$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <46e2faf1$0$24564$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <46e499f7$1$22196$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <46e499f7$1$22196$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "Tom Gardner" wrote in message > news:lYJEi.5990$z_5.300@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com... >> "James" wrote in message >> news:46e2faf1$0$24564$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >> >> >>>> science, it's over for all you pickup drivin redneck hillbillies. >>> Yeah, right. Then we get people like you who insist on answering >>> rhetorical questions with conventional stupid ones. >> I love it when these fureners think "hillbilly" and "redneck" are deep >> insults. It seems to me that a bunch of "hillbillies and rednecks" pulled >> their nuts out of the fire a few times. KT's a dozy pillock and his >> mother is a shanky munter. >> > There is a difference between redneck and hillbilly. I don't know why he > wouldn't know that. He was raised in West Virginia. He just thinks he's better than us hillbillies because he got a tattoo that came with an Official Certificate of Trailer Trash. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 22:57:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 22:57:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Media bullshit References: <46e204f3$0$24582$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <46e499f7$0$22196$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> In-Reply-To: <46e499f7$0$22196$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James wrote: > "Server 13" wrote in message > news:GZCdnTg6K746p3nbnZ2dnUVZ_t2inZ2d@insightbb.com... >> "James" wrote in message >> news:46e204f3$0$24582$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com... >>> This morning I turned on the quickie news while I was dressing. The >> quickie >>> story was that a 76 year old woman was found in New Mexico and was is >>> good >>> shape while the worst had been expected after a night (or two) in the >>> wilderness. The physician said she was in great shape for her age, having >>> survived the ordeal. >>> >>> "Great", I thought, and changed the channel. They were reportng the same >>> story except that "she was battling for her life". I had to leave and >>> meet >>> the day. 'click'. >>> >>> I never found out and never heard anything else. >>> >>> Tonight, I turned on the big three news near the end of the newscast and >> got >>> Brian Williams reporting that Polar bears WILL be decimated by 2/3 rds if >>> arctic weather stays the way it is now. >>> >>> 'click' to next channel >>> >>> Now I catch James Hansen telling us that the sea will rise by several >> meters >>> by 2100 if action is not taken quickly after showing water running off of >>> Greenland which was described as 2000 miles long and 1000 miles wide. >>> >>> Those short snips are showing that the media are only reporting whatever >> is >>> handy and without checking anything, All four reports tell us nothing. >>> >>> My point is that the media cannot be relied on to give us any news that >>> is >>> reliable. >> Exactly. Why would anyone rely on the media for science? >> > > Because they presented it as such maybe? > > They present PBS and Tell-a-Tubbies as educational too. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sun Sep 09 23:13:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 23:13:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Wonderful Progress Against a Cooler Climate in Calfornia This Summer References: <1188947572.495253.311850@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1188954618.494082.78720@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189030101.568775.205120@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189039198.594967.215550@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189048897.659593.289940@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189115189.043480.325210@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189199588.749529.310050@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189291994.607241.98960@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189389592.662930.43160@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189391820.841005.210960@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189391820.841005.210960@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Sep 9, 9:59 pm, chatnoir wrote: >> On Sep 8, 4:53 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> >>> On Sep 7, 9:43 pm, "Paul E. Lehmann" wrote: >>> And it's always particularly difficult for anyone who has expressed >>> ANY opinion in public on an issue to make a public chance of position >>> later. It's embarrassing toflipflop in public, of course - look >>> what the media tend to do to "flipfloppers." >> http://www.internetweekly.org/2007/08/cartoon_cheneys_cannonball_flip... > > Cute - I like it when people satirize Cheney and his take on the Iraq > War.. But it doesn't have much to do with "alt.global-warming," I > think. > He was breathing while he wrote this, and that has to do with the GW. Remember, everything is causing and is a result of Global Warming. At least until you have positive proof one way or the other. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 11:22:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:22:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e3ff96$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e4221a$1$22884$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> In-Reply-To: <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit §ñühw¤£f wrote: > On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:31:41 -0500 > "Harley" wrote: > >>>>> Dont live there if you dont like it, duh.>>> >> I don't. Living in a disease rampant state is for fatalists. >> > Your mobile home looks nice from google earth :) > >>> As for global warming. Its real dimmy. >>> Enjoy your flat-earth mentality. >> You believe in UFO abductions too? >> >> Harley > > No, those are *your* painful childhood repressed memories of your father touching you. I was abducted also... the worst is the way they laugh at the Global Warming True Believers, the Aliens sit around drinking Carona Beers telling GW weenie jokes, and then there was that thing where they gang probe you... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 12:02:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:02:09 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Black holes caused global warming Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive back into this universe. With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something refilling our universe. Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the earth, we could feel the heat. http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ Just a thought I had a while back. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 12:09:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:09:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: What is the Mechanism of GHG warming? 2 References: <1189435769.990266.186670@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189439075.434537.94110@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouroboros_Rex wrote: > wrote in message > news:1189439075.434537.94110@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com... >>> http://www.john-daly.com/barker/index.htm >>> >>> Before the clamour about John Daly being a >>> liar starts may I point out that the data in the >>> Slade Barker paper is available for checking. >>> (Data from leading AGW scientists usually >>> isn't) >>> His conclusion that there is no >>> discernible decrease in the rate of loss of >>> heat from the Earth at night as the CO2 con- >>> -centration has increased appears to be >>> unassailable >>> Especially when papers with actual data >>> contradicting his conclusion are non >>> existent. >> Looks sensibly reasonable to me. This site offers some fantastic >> analysis, from every perspective, in good detail. > > I never found anything at all from a pro-AGW perspective. What did you > find? > The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive back into this universe. With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something refilling our universe. Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the earth, we could feel the heat. http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ Just a thought I had a while back. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 12:14:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:14:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: And now for the ONE TRUE RELIGION - References: <1189313752.896383.94110@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189438891.403333.315530@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189438891.403333.315530@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kingssman1@hotmail.com wrote: > On Sep 8, 11:55 pm, john fernbach wrote: >> It's the worship of COAL, OIL & AUTOMOBILES! >> >> To this True Religion, we must be ready to make ANIMAL SACRIFICES, >> brothers and sisters. And we must be ready to sacrifice our CHILDREN, >> if need be. And in the end, we must be willing to sacrifice our >> planet ... >> >> Because Coal, Oil and Automobiles are SACRED. > > and dont tell them to save money and buy a prius. "OH no I will not > save money, I must shill out $70 a week in gas to fuel my boat of a > SUV" I encountered a religious right-nut who worshiped high > pollution. He got pissed when I said "those hybrids sure get good > mileage. I was able to cross the state in 1 tank of gas" oh he was > pissed "Well what wrong with stopping a few times to fill her up?" > > > they must enjoy having to stop every 150 miles to fill 20 gallons when > I can travel 400. > Break it down into cost per mile to operate. You might find that more cost in gas, is actually cheaper than more cost of investment and maintenance on the Honda Pious. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 12:26:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:26:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189438636.950638.152790@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189438636.950638.152790@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kingssman1@hotmail.com wrote: I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. > You're right, we can't fix volcanoes. Guess I'll just give up and > crank out my CO2 machine as well. If I can't fight natures volcano, > perhaps I can emit just as = of ammount of CO2 as the volcano. > > > One of these days mother nature is going to spew out a ton of CO2 to > add to the atmosphere that mankind already put there and it will tip > the scales. Then people will blame nature about the CO2 problem > while still emmiting massive amounts themselves. > > On Sep 8, 11:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and >> temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from >> these volcanoes. >> >> We're all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. >> -- http://OutSourcedNews.com Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 16:31:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:31:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: Global Sea Surface Temperatues 1850-2006 References: <1187643309.302412.85930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1Uqyi.9886$7e6.4716@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189453770.915200.44090@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189453770.915200.44090@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit john fernbach wrote: > On Aug 20, 9:06 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Peter Franks wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface >>>> temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: >>>> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg >>>> As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, >>>> the rate of sea warming is slower than global land >>>> warming. NASA GISS has global land surface >>>> warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and >>>> 2006. (Please see: >>>> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) >>>> These data come from: >>>> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ >>> Why is 1970-ish the baseline for the temperature anomaly? >>> What was the sensitivity/accuracy of the thermometers used? >>> Why should I care that sea surface temperatures have risen over the past >>> 150 years? >> If one aspirin helps then 30 will really fix me up - huh. >> This is a typical way of thinking, which overflows into Global Warming, >> people think that if a little Co2 makes it a half degree warmer then a >> lot of Co2 will make it really hot. >> > > I like your analogy, Dog. If one aspirin will cure your headache, > then what if you take 200 of them? > Well, they won't probably kill you, but they won't help either. > > So maybe CO2 is like aspirin? "The poison is in the dose"? > Could be since 100% will solve all your problems. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 16:58:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:58:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Black holes caused global warming References: <1189453454.380510.282110@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189453454.380510.282110@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 10, 9:02 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like >> a magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter >> arrive back into this universe. >> >> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter >> may be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be >> something refilling our universe. >> >> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back >> in a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is >> connected to a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are >> connected via a worm hole and take matter into the black hole and spew >> it out the white hole in the same universe. If that worm hole passes >> through the earth, then given size and amount of matter/energy >> exiting, and the proximity to or on the earth, we could feel the heat. >> >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >> Just a thought I had a while back. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - > > > Perhaps you need to do a little reading, first on the life cycle of a > tropical cyclone, then into how a black hole forms from a large > supernova for instance, and then do more reading into a theory called > Hawking Radiation all which may (and I emphasize may) alleviate your > need to post gibberish, or you can attempt to correlate the two > phenomena black holes, and hurricanes both being caused by global > warming if you choose but that's up to you.... > > http://www.usc.edu/org/cosee-west/March06Resources/BackgroundInfoArticles/GuideforHurricaneAwareness.pdf > Mariner's Guide For Hurricane Awareness In The North Atlantic Basin > Eric J. Holweg > eholweg@nhc.noaa.gov > Meteorologist > Tropical Analysis and Forecast Branch > Tropical Prediction Center National Weather Service > National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration > August 2000 > Page 6 > "Tropical Cyclone Life Cycle > Hurricanes can last for two weeks or more over the open ocean, > generating incredible sea heights in excess of 50 ft with rather > substantial swell trains that can extend outward from these systems > for thousands of miles. All the while, these cyclones can continue to > move across the entire tropical North Atlantic, Caribbean Sea, & Gulf > of Mexico placing vessels both at sea and in-port into harm's way. > In the early stages of development, the system appears in satellite > imagery as relatively unorganized thunderstorm clusters generated in > the low-level cyclonically curved wind flow of a tropical wave or > other incipient disturbance (see FIGURE 5). If weather and ocean > conditions remain favorable, the system can strengthen to become a > tropical depression with winds less than 33 KT. At this point the > storm begins to take on the familiar spiral appearance with increasing > cyclonic wind flow around the low-level circulation center. If the > storm continues to strengthen to tropical storm status (winds > 34-63 KT), the developing bands of thunderstorms contribute additional > heat & moisture to the storm further aiding in intensification. The > storm becomes a hurricane when surface winds reach a minimum of 64 KT. > About this time, the cloud-free eye typically forms in the inner > region of the tropical cyclone. > The tropical cyclone will continue to grow and sustain itself until > one or more of the necessary ingredients is either lost or undergoes a > significant change. Wind shear can tear a system apart separating the > vertically stacked warm core aloft from its low-level circulation. > Movement of these systems into regions of drier mid-level air can > inhibit convection and cause a weakening of the tropical cyclone. > Additionally, movement into cooler water or landfall events typically > shut down a tropical cyclone's warm energy source, and therefore it's > fuel to survive. Landfall also increases low-level friction within a > system thereby reducing the intensity of the circulation while > increasing rainfall amounts. Generally speaking, a weakening tropical > cyclone can re-intensify if it moves into a more favorable region with > respect to the six ingredients. Similarly, a tropical cyclone > interacting with a midlatitude cold front can intensify into an extra- > tropical gale or storm force low as the result of many factors > involved in the tropical to extra-tropical transition of these > systems. This transition from tropical to extra-tropical can cause > sudden structure changes in the cyclone, which result in dramatic > variations of storm speed, direction, & position. Similarly, rather > rapid fluctuations of the wind field > intensity and an outward expansion of gale & storm force winds often > occur, as these systems become extra-tropical. This tropical to extra- > tropical transition normally occurs at higher latitudes over the > cooler ocean water located in the vicinity of major transatlantic > shipping lanes. Combining all of these factors, the decay of a > tropical cyclone & the tropical to extra-tropical transition are > extremely dangerous & often times unpredictable periods in the > tropical cyclone life cycle." > > > Page 10 > Hurricane Structure > The main parts of a hurricane shown in FIGURE 8 are the rainbands, the > eye, and the eyewall. Air at the surface spirals in toward the center > in a cyclonic (counter-clockwise) pattern, then turns upwardnear the > center to flow out the top in an anticyclonic manner (clockwise). At > the very center of the storm, air sinks, forming the warm core and > relatively cloud-free eye. > The Eye > The hurricane's center is a relatively calm, clear area usually 10-40 > nautical miles wide containing the lowest surface pressure in the > tropical cyclone. The eye forms as the result of intense convection > within the eyewall (see FIGURE 9) that forces air to rise rapidly > upward. Reaching the top of the The Eyewall The innermost convective > ring of thunderstorms that surrounds the eye of a hurricane is known > as the eyewall. This region is home to the most intense winds and > fiercest rains within a tropical cyclone and has a typical width of > approximately 10-15 NM. Additionally, it is the most significant > contributor in the vertical transport of warm moist air from the lower > levels of the storm into the middle and upper levels of the > troposphere over a tropical cyclone. This is a fact that agrees with > observations throughout the North Atlantic basin where eyes and > eyewalls are generally observedonly in systems with winds of strong > tropical storm force or greater. > Changes in the structure of the eye and eyewall can cause changes in > surface pressure and wind speed in a tropical cyclone. The eye can > grow or shrink in size, and double (concentric) eyewalls can form, > dissipate, and redevelop. All of these factors play a significant role > in short-term influences of hurricane intensity." > All negative things are caused by Global Warming. Maybe the inverse is true black holes are causing Global warming. Could be the worm hole passes through the planet earth. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:01:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:01:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. References: <1189449395.839622.11770@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <13eb42d7m110f53@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouroboros_Rex wrote: > "Gris Caravel" wrote in message > news:13eb42d7m110f53@corp.supernews.com... >> Actor, Ted Danson said about the same thing in about 1989. > > What does Chrichton say? lol > > He thought he said, aliens will say that all ocean life will be dead in ten years. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:07:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:07:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. References: <1189449395.839622.11770@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouroboros_Rex wrote: > "Tunderbar" wrote in message > news:1189449395.839622.11770@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> "In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. > > k00k-a-d00dle-d000! > > Guess you Global Warming nuts can save a few bucks on your next subscription to "Whale hugger magazine" skip the $400 lifetime and just get the 10 year for $29.95 -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:15:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:15:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit altheim wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a >> magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive >> back into this universe. >> >> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may >> be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something >> refilling our universe. >> >> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in >> a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to >> a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm >> hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in >> the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given >> size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the >> earth, we could feel the heat. >> >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >> Just a thought I had a while back. > > What a load of codswallop! Really Dog, you do read some rubbish. Either way you read it, it's every bit as big a chuckle as CO2 causing GW and super hurricanes. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:23:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:23:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Massive Buddhist statute to cause GW--should be banned References: <1189458840.799118.129760@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189458840.799118.129760@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > Think of all the greenhouse gases that will be expended to create this > monumental Buddhist statute! Think of the waste of resources! > Perhaps the UN and IPCC should ban this statute as a waste of time, > money, resources and for creating harmful GHGs? Roger, what say you? > Ban or no ban? After all, science says there is no God, so clearly > this is a waste, no? The money could be better spent regulating > polluting industry, eh? > > The object of their ire is an international Buddhist organization's > plan to build the world's largest statue of Buddha near their village. > Called the Maitreya Project ("Maitreya" comes from Sanskrit and means > loving-kindness), the statue and its vast surrounding parks will offer > a spiritual answer to the world's great " 'monuments' to commercial > interests: high-rise business buildings, airports, shopping malls, > theatres and theme parks," according to the group's website. > They should build a CO2 neutral Temple to pray in instead... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:25:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:25:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Black holes caused global warming References: <1189458774.874657.175430@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189458774.874657.175430@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 10, 11:02 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like >> a magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter >> arrive back into this universe. >> >> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter >> may be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be >> something refilling our universe. >> >> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back >> in a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is >> connected to a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are >> connected via a worm hole and take matter into the black hole and spew >> it out the white hole in the same universe. If that worm hole passes >> through the earth, then given size and amount of matter/energy >> exiting, and the proximity to or on the earth, we could feel the heat. >> >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >> Just a thought I had a while back. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. > > The matter in black holes get super-dense. Kinda like the pea-sized > brains of typical agw warmists. > > There are a black holes that excrete matter. The matter come out as a > warm semi-solid mass or as a co2 laden gas. But that an entirely > different textbook. > Your talking Methane from those, they're Brown holes.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 17:47:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 17:47:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Black holes caused global warming References: <1189458774.874657.175430@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189458774.874657.175430@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 10, 11:02 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like >> a magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter >> arrive back into this universe. >> >> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter >> may be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be >> something refilling our universe. >> >> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back >> in a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is >> connected to a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are >> connected via a worm hole and take matter into the black hole and spew >> it out the white hole in the same universe. If that worm hole passes >> through the earth, then given size and amount of matter/energy >> exiting, and the proximity to or on the earth, we could feel the heat. >> >> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >> Just a thought I had a while back. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. > > The matter in black holes get super-dense. Kinda like the pea-sized > brains of typical agw warmists. I thought I read somewhere that the equations on black holes would say that the matter funnels into the black hole for infinity, which makes it's density endless by your theory. But infinite density isn't workable either, is it? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 18:01:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 18:01:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: AL GORE the hypocrit References: <1189460855.118671.72360@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <46E5BCCC.7030703@adnc.com> In-Reply-To: <46E5BCCC.7030703@adnc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > You haven't got the memo from the Ministry of Truth, > so you don't know how to think correctly. We're all > supposed to hate Edwards now. Hating Gore was last > hour's partyline. > > rowanmilleronline@gmail.com wrote: >> http://livenews.com.au/Articles/2007/09/10/Al_Gore_accused_of_hypocrisy >> > I'm an equal opportunity hater, I hate all the hypocritical idiots equal. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 21:26:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:26:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: The Whole Global Warming Thing Is Off. References: <1189093259.376615.280150@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189095793.310337.254410@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <46e0bc64$0$24576$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1189467868.058554.303820@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189467868.058554.303820@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kwag7693@hotmail.com wrote: > On Sep 7, 5:05 pm, Jonathan Kirwan wrote: >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:23:58 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >> >> wrote: >>> >>> Science is WRONG as often as it's RIGHT. >> No, that would be superstitions, like religious ones, for example. >> >> Quite to the contrary, science has been a huge success and is quite >> quantitatively predictive. >> >> Jon > > "Science" is some monolithic chunk of successful stuff? Or are you > only including "good" science in that wildly broad claim there? I'll mention that to the shuttle astronauts, the guys who created submarines, and maybe those killed by the pharmaceutical companies. Then there was the ones who decided the universe was all static, that lasted a while till someone measured everything moving away from us. "Trial and error" -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 21:55:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:55:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 10, 2:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> altheim wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >>>> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a >>>> magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >>>> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive >>>> back into this universe. >>>> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >>>> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may >>>> be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something >>>> refilling our universe. >>>> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in >>>> a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to >>>> a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm >>>> hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in >>>> the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given >>>> size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the >>>> earth, we could feel the heat. >>>> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >>>> Just a thought I had a while back. >>> What a load of codswallop! Really Dog, you do read some rubbish. >> Either way you read it, it's every bit as big a chuckle as CO2 causing >> GW and super hurricanes. >> - Show quoted text - > > Can you completely rule out that man made emissions of green house > gases and aerosols have any effects or (secondary effects) on large > scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation > (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these > are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life > span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you > might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements > above... > Can you show me how the planetary weather system functions? How clouds are made, how much co2 is the saturation point where more co2 doesn't effect temperature, is it ~5% or ~95%? Which days over the next 100 days, when and where will it rain? I'm not into disproving every flakey hypothesis that comes down the pike, I'll wait for scientific proof that Artificial GW is possible. Can you completely rule out God, Sasquatch or Aliens? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Mon Sep 10 22:05:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:05:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Help us plant a tree References: <1189476028.625680.135860@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189476028.625680.135860@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tnetbus@gmail.com wrote: > ....and start growing your future. Check out the Green Report online > here. Make money & save the environment at the same time! All the > info is at the link below: > > http://www.bigleagueplayersclub.com/3clicks/published/13804/39927/index.htm > I have acres and acres of big old oaks, send me a dollar and I'll let them stay there for another year. Otherwise I'm cutting fire wood this winter. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 12:51:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:51:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e3ff96$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e4221a$1$22884$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <3hdFi.54002$t9.49964@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <46e6a952$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> In-Reply-To: <46e6a952$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit §ñühw¤£f wrote: > On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:22:44 -0400 > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> §ñühw¤£f wrote: >>> On Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:31:41 -0500 >>> "Harley" wrote: >>> >>>>>>> Dont live there if you dont like it, duh.>>> >>>> I don't. Living in a disease rampant state is for fatalists. >>>> >>> Your mobile home looks nice from google earth :) >>> >>>>> As for global warming. Its real dimmy. >>>>> Enjoy your flat-earth mentality. >>>> You believe in UFO abductions too? >>>> >>>> Harley >>> No, those are *your* painful childhood repressed memories of your father touching you. >> I was abducted also... > > Ohhhhh...I see...Ive stumbled into a support group for red-staters who've been molested > *repeatedly* by their family. > My condolences. > >> the worst is the way they laugh at the Global >> Warming True Believers, > > Between cramming cheetos into their gaping maws whilst watching reruns of Springer > to see which sibling gets picked from the audience... > >> the Aliens sit around drinking Carona Beers > > While you tell them that they will get paid this week for sure for the two weeks you already > owe them for picking your corn... > >> telling GW weenie jokes, and then there was that thing where they gang >> probe you... >> > > You could have just gone to CPS and told on your daddy you know... I didn't want to get you in any trouble... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 13:10:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:10:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The answer to global warming is.... References: <1189449313.682223.53220@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rich wrote: > Tunderbar wrote: >> "The answer to global warming is in the abolition of private property >> and production for human need. A socialist world would place an >> enormous priority on alternative energy sources. > > It's odd then that no existing socialist country has done this, eh? > > Cheers, > > Rich > >> This is what >> ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for quite some time >> now." >> - Louis Proyect, Columbia University >> We need to follow the socialist genius, if we stick with China as our hero's and follow their priority we'll be in great shape. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 13:20:15 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:20:15 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Chilling truth about 'global warming' hypocrisy References: <46e5efbb$0$22167$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <46e602d6$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46e602d6$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rob wrote: > I think that trying to stop global warming by picking out individual > people who have a large carbon footprint it probably wasting time a bit. > What is needed is legislation that makes carbon awareness economic. Making it a commodity like oil and gold will make it what? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 13:39:14 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:39:13 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 10, 6:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 10, 2:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> altheim wrote: >>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>>>> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >>>>>> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a >>>>>> magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >>>>>> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive >>>>>> back into this universe. >>>>>> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >>>>>> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may >>>>>> be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something >>>>>> refilling our universe. >>>>>> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in >>>>>> a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to >>>>>> a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm >>>>>> hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in >>>>>> the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given >>>>>> size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the >>>>>> earth, we could feel the heat. >>>>>> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >>>>>> Just a thought I had a while back. >>>>> What a load of codswallop! Really Dog, you do read some rubbish. >>>> Either way you read it, it's every bit as big a chuckle as CO2 causing >>>> GW and super hurricanes. >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Can you completely rule out that man made emissions of green house >>> gases and aerosols have any effects or (secondary effects) on large >>> scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation >>> (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these >>> are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life >>> span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you >>> might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements >>> above... >> Can you show me how the planetary weather system functions? How clouds >> are made, how much co2 is the saturation point where more co2 doesn't >> effect temperature, is it ~5% or ~95%? Which days over the next 100 >> days, when and where will it rain? >> >> I'm not into disproving every flakey hypothesis that comes down the >> pike, I'll wait for scientific proof that Artificial GW is possible. >> >> Can you completely rule out God, Sasquatch or Aliens? >> - Show quoted text - > > > You posted a statement that essentially attempted to correlate the > cause of black holes, and tropic cyclones to global warming and so I > asked the following :Can you completely rule out that man made > emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects or > (secondary effects) on large scale oscillations of climate such as the > El nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic > oscillations (NAO), as these are both influences on tropical cyclone > formation, strength and life span, please cite your sources in your > reply, and if you cannot you might not want to stick your neck out so > far as you have in statements above... > Yes, weather happens no matter the human interference. I ruled out any chance that humans start or stop weather. Humans are part of the earth and therefore part of the weather . If we could influence weather... so what, humans would die and the imbalance would again become balanced. Cite - me - I don't need someone to think for "me" I can say it directly. > Which you failed to do, so please try again with citations, and > without your rhetoric, and as you are displaying signs of anxiety you > should have your master walk you for about 40 minutes at a pace of > about 3mph, as this will instill your master as the alpha, and you as > the pack (who needs to be led). Walking a dog such as yourself is > absolutely necessary for the dog/person relationship to be reinforced, > and in a couple of weeks your anxiety will be lessened and you will be > a much more balanced dog.... You can explain why black holes can't be the cause of global warming, or why GW isn't causing black holes? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 17:51:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:51:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <%mAFi.55877$t9.34981@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 11, 10:39 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 10, 6:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>>> On Sep 10, 2:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>> altheim wrote: >>>>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>>>>>> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >>>>>>>> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a >>>>>>>> magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >>>>>>>> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive >>>>>>>> back into this universe. >>>>>>>> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >>>>>>>> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may >>>>>>>> be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something >>>>>>>> refilling our universe. >>>>>>>> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in >>>>>>>> a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to >>>>>>>> a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm >>>>>>>> hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in >>>>>>>> the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given >>>>>>>> size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the >>>>>>>> earth, we could feel the heat. >>>>>>>> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >>>>>>>> Just a thought I had a while back. >>>>>>> What a load of codswallop! Really Dog, you do read some rubbish. >>>>>> Either way you read it, it's every bit as big a chuckle as CO2 causing >>>>>> GW and super hurricanes. >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> Can you completely rule out that man made emissions of green house >>>>> gases and aerosols have any effects or (secondary effects) on large >>>>> scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation >>>>> (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these >>>>> are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life >>>>> span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you >>>>> might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements >>>>> above... >>>> Can you show me how the planetary weather system functions? How clouds >>>> are made, how much co2 is the saturation point where more co2 doesn't >>>> effect temperature, is it ~5% or ~95%? Which days over the next 100 >>>> days, when and where will it rain? >>>> I'm not into disproving every flakey hypothesis that comes down the >>>> pike, I'll wait for scientific proof that Artificial GW is possible. >>>> Can you completely rule out God, Sasquatch or Aliens? >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> You posted a statement that essentially attempted to correlate the >>> cause of black holes, and tropic cyclones to global warming and so I >>> asked the following :Can you completely rule out that man made >>> emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects or >>> (secondary effects) on large scale oscillations of climate such as the >>> El nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic >>> oscillations (NAO), as these are both influences on tropical cyclone >>> formation, strength and life span, please cite your sources in your >>> reply, and if you cannot you might not want to stick your neck out so >>> far as you have in statements above... >> Yes, weather happens no matter the human interference. I ruled out any >> chance that humans start or stop weather. Humans are part of the earth >> and therefore part of the weather . If we could influence weather... so >> what, humans would die and the imbalance would again become balanced. >> >> Cite - me - I don't need someone to think for "me" I can say it directly. >> >>> Which you failed to do, so please try again with citations, and >>> without your rhetoric, and as you are displaying signs of anxiety you >>> should have your master walk you for about 40 minutes at a pace of >>> about 3mph, as this will instill your master as the alpha, and you as >>> the pack (who needs to be led). Walking a dog such as yourself is >>> absolutely necessary for the dog/person relationship to be reinforced, >>> and in a couple of weeks your anxiety will be lessened and you will be >>> a much more balanced dog.... >> You can explain why black holes can't be the cause of global warming, or >> why GW isn't causing black holes? >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that >> impact crater, destined to be where my house is. >> >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Talk n dog wrote :"I ruled out any chance that humans start or stop > weather..... If we could influence weather so what" > > Man influenced climate change is not what you ruled out, please try > again, and if you don't care about the answer as to what is causing > global climate change why did you ask the following question in the > first place, or is this more of your anxiety expressed in the form of > rhetoric. > > Talk n dog asked the question :"Maybe the inverse is true black holes > are causing Global warming." > > I then asked you if you could completely rule out that man made > emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects on large > scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation > (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these > are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life > span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you > might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements > above... > > And talk n dog replied "I'm not into disproving every flakey > hypothesis that comes down the pike, I'll wait for scientific proof > that Artificial GW is possible." > > Well does that mean you call El nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or > shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), flakey hypothesis, > as you might want to read Dr. Grays report below, and reconsider who > and what you call flakey. > > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf > > So please once again can you completely rule out that man made > emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects on large > scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation > (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these > are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life > span, please cite your sources in your reply. Oh yeah did your > person take you for your 40 min walk this morning, as im sure it would > help you settle down when you start to learn some basic astrophysics, > as well as climatology. > You repete things very well, I had a parrot like that once. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Tue Sep 11 21:01:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:01:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <%mAFi.55877$t9.34981@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189549342.245973.273930@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189549342.245973.273930@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 11, 2:51 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 10:39 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>>> On Sep 10, 6:55 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>>>>> On Sep 10, 2:15 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>>>>>> altheim wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The black holes are consuming matter, but Einstein says matter can't be >>>>>>>>>> destroyed, so the matter and energy consumed by black holes must be like a >>>>>>>>>> magicians trick. The matter is going somewhere. On the other hand, we >>>>>>>>>> would be out of matter if there weren't somewhere that more matter arrive >>>>>>>>>> back into this universe. >>>>>>>>>> With that comes the question, what spews new matter into the universe? >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the opposite of black holes "white/light holes" While the matter may >>>>>>>>>> be dark or void of energy or spew dark energy there must be something >>>>>>>>>> refilling our universe. >>>>>>>>>> Then where does the matter go? Maybe to another dimension and then back in >>>>>>>>>> a white hole from another dimension, maybe the white hole is connected to >>>>>>>>>> a black hole somewhere in this universe. If they are connected via a worm >>>>>>>>>> hole and take matter into the black hole and spew it out the white hole in >>>>>>>>>> the same universe. If that worm hole passes through the earth, then given >>>>>>>>>> size and amount of matter/energy exiting, and the proximity to or on the >>>>>>>>>> earth, we could feel the heat. >>>>>>>>>> http://outsourcenews.net/j-news/content/view/62/46/ >>>>>>>>>> Just a thought I had a while back. >>>>>>>>> What a load of codswallop! Really Dog, you do read some rubbish. >>>>>>>> Either way you read it, it's every bit as big a chuckle as CO2 causing >>>>>>>> GW and super hurricanes. >>>>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>>>> Can you completely rule out that man made emissions of green house >>>>>>> gases and aerosols have any effects or (secondary effects) on large >>>>>>> scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation >>>>>>> (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these >>>>>>> are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life >>>>>>> span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you >>>>>>> might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements >>>>>>> above... >>>>>> Can you show me how the planetary weather system functions? How clouds >>>>>> are made, how much co2 is the saturation point where more co2 doesn't >>>>>> effect temperature, is it ~5% or ~95%? Which days over the next 100 >>>>>> days, when and where will it rain? >>>>>> I'm not into disproving every flakey hypothesis that comes down the >>>>>> pike, I'll wait for scientific proof that Artificial GW is possible. >>>>>> Can you completely rule out God, Sasquatch or Aliens? >>>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>>> You posted a statement that essentially attempted to correlate the >>>>> cause of black holes, and tropic cyclones to global warming and so I >>>>> asked the following :Can you completely rule out that man made >>>>> emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects or >>>>> (secondary effects) on large scale oscillations of climate such as the >>>>> El nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic >>>>> oscillations (NAO), as these are both influences on tropical cyclone >>>>> formation, strength and life span, please cite your sources in your >>>>> reply, and if you cannot you might not want to stick your neck out so >>>>> far as you have in statements above... >>>> Yes, weather happens no matter the human interference. I ruled out any >>>> chance that humans start or stop weather. Humans are part of the earth >>>> and therefore part of the weather . If we could influence weather... so >>>> what, humans would die and the imbalance would again become balanced. >>>> Cite - me - I don't need someone to think for "me" I can say it directly. >>>>> Which you failed to do, so please try again with citations, and >>>>> without your rhetoric, and as you are displaying signs of anxiety you >>>>> should have your master walk you for about 40 minutes at a pace of >>>>> about 3mph, as this will instill your master as the alpha, and you as >>>>> the pack (who needs to be led). Walking a dog such as yourself is >>>>> absolutely necessary for the dog/person relationship to be reinforced, >>>>> and in a couple of weeks your anxiety will be lessened and you will be >>>>> a much more balanced dog.... >>>> You can explain why black holes can't be the cause of global warming, or >>>> why GW isn't causing black holes? >>>> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >>>> I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that >>>> impact crater, destined to be where my house is. >>>> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >>>> Which at times are, one and the same... >>>> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >>>> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >>>> whole thing. - Gump That - >>>> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >>>> are as big as a squirrels ear. >>>> Insanity is only synapses deep. >>>> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive.- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> Talk n dog wrote :"I ruled out any chance that humans start or stop >>> weather..... If we could influence weather so what" >>> Man influenced climate change is not what you ruled out, please try >>> again, and if you don't care about the answer as to what is causing >>> global climate change why did you ask the following question in the >>> first place, or is this more of your anxiety expressed in the form of >>> rhetoric. >>> Talk n dog asked the question :"Maybe the inverse is true black holes >>> are causing Global warming." >>> I then asked you if you could completely rule out that man made >>> emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects on large >>> scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation >>> (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these >>> are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life >>> span, please cite your sources in your reply, and if you cannot you >>> might not want to stick your neck out so far as you have in statements >>> above... >>> And talk n dog replied "I'm not into disproving every flakey >>> hypothesis that comes down the pike, I'll wait for scientific proof >>> that Artificial GW is possible." >>> Well does that mean you call El nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or >>> shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), flakey hypothesis, >>> as you might want to read Dr. Grays report below, and reconsider who >>> and what you call flakey. >>> http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf >>> So please once again can you completely rule out that man made >>> emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects on large >>> scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern oscillation >>> (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic oscillations (NAO), as these >>> are both influences on tropical cyclone formation, strength and life >>> span, please cite your sources in your reply. Oh yeah did your >>> person take you for your 40 min walk this morning, as im sure it would >>> help you settle down when you start to learn some basic astrophysics, >>> as well as climatology. >> You repete things very well, I had a parrot like that once. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that >> impact crater, destined to be where my house is. >> >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > And so by making your above post you concede that you cannot answer my > question, which then logically follows that you must admit their maybe > be a direct or indirect link between man made climate change, and > changes in long term interactions of the earths atmosphere and oceans > that influence large scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino > southern oscillation (ENSO), which then in turn could influence the > tropical cyclone formation, strength and life span as Dr. Gray > utilizes ENSO as a key factor in determining his tropical cyclone > predictions. > > Please read what you have posted in this thread, which if read > correctly it could be determined that: #1 you believe that black holes > are magic, #2 somebody must disprove the existence of god and > sasquatch for you to answer a question in the context of a discussion, > #3 black holes cause global warming, #4 and this is the best you > stated that you don't need citations to back up your rhetoric, I guess > you have shown you have credentials working for the tabloids.... > Talk n dog has said in this thread #1 "The black holes are consuming > matter, but Einstein says matter can't be destroyed, so the matter and > energy consumed by black holes must be like > a magicians trick." #2 "Can you completely rule out God, Sasquatch or > Aliens?" #3 "Maybe the inverse is true black holes are causing Global > warming", #4 "Cite - me - I don't need someone to think for "me" I > can say it directly." > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf > Polly want a cracker? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 00:57:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:57:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: Re: Chile Is A Little Chilly Lately References: <1184095188.889490.108950@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy wrote: > "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote in > message news:XyAFi.6$372.0@read2.cgocable.net... >> "Andy" wrote >>> Now I understand. >>> Global warming only happens in summer. >> We expect temperatures to be cold in winter Andy. And it's the middle of >> winter in the Southern Hemisphere. > > You global warming true believers just twist the facts to suit your > arguments. If the globe is warming then winters should be getting warmer as > well. The OP stated that Buenos Aires had its first snowfall since 1918. How > could global warming allow this to happen? If the earth is heating up then > it should be heating up everywhere, and we should not be seeing winters as > cold as they were in 1918 any more. A lot of fossil fuel has been burnt in > the 89 years since then. The GW miracle, is like that, the oceans will boil in the arctic while the equator gets snow. Gaia is angry. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:06:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:06:14 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <%mAFi.55877$t9.34981@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189549342.245973.273930@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1189559522.546393.59930@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189559522.546393.59930@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > Talk n dog wrote in reply to my quesion :"Polly want a cracker?" > > Na, but either you were ignorant to the facts of the subject at hand > which you refuse to admit, or by not taking responsibility for your > words here when questioned, you have demonstrated your lack of > integrity, by acting without honor in posting information in this > thread which you intentionally attempted mislead others, and you know > it. You are no better than anybody else and therefore you do not have > the privilege of posting information without answering for it when > questioned within the context of the discussion, and in a civil and > logical manner. This forum is not a toy for your deception, and don't > worry I will remind you of you lack of credibility anytime any place, > so how many of your posts on Usenet have you made with the intent to > mislead others just as you have here talk n dog? > > Now I'm glad you conceded that you cannot answer my question, which > then logically follows that you must admit their maybe be a direct or > indirect link between man made climate change, and changes in long > term interactions of the earths atmosphere and oceans that influence > large scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern > oscillation (ENSO), which then in turn could influence the tropical > cyclone formation, strength and life span as Dr. Gray utilizes ENSO as > a key factor in determining his tropical cyclone predictions. > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf > > Now im glad you conceded that you cannot answer my question, which > then logically follows that you must admit their maybe be a direct or > indirect link between man made climate change, and changes in long > term interactions of the earths atmosphere and oceans that influence > large scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern > oscillation (ENSO), which then in turn could influence the tropical > cyclone formation, strength and life span as Dr. Gray utilizes ENSO as > a key factor in determining his tropical cyclone predictions. > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf Space yeast have traveled through the black hole and have colonized the oil, they are producing Co2 like making champaign. The co2 is causing GW. We need to stop the Alien yeast from consuming the oil, I suggest that we burn it ni vehicles and electrical plants, thus depriving the yeast of a food source and saving the planet. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:14:12 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:14:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? - Erie man hopes so References: <1189538878.945400.53780@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <46e74941$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <46e74f39$0$15142$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e74f39$0$15142$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trevor Wilson wrote: > Australia's Greatest Space Pioneer wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:25:45 +0930, Trevor Wilson >> wrote: >> >>> **Yeah, right. What is the ratio of power out to power in. That >>> should give a little tip. >> >> Better than the 1:100 or so from nucular fusion, I'll wager. > > **Nope. Nuclear fusion does not operate at anything like that. If it > did, we'd all be using it. The best nuclear fusion can operate at (right > now) is something less than 100%. Moreover, there is no evidence to > suggest that the cited 'discovery' was actually nuclear fusion. > > Trevor Wilson > That's a SUN of a bitch. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:27:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:27:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <%mAFi.55877$t9.34981@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189549342.245973.273930@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1189559522.546393.59930@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189559522.546393.59930@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > Talk n dog wrote in reply to my quesion :"Polly want a cracker?" > > Na, but either you were ignorant to the facts of the subject at hand > which you refuse to admit, or by not taking responsibility for your > words here when questioned, you have demonstrated your lack of > integrity, by acting without honor in posting information in this > thread which you intentionally attempted mislead others, and you know > it. You are no better than anybody else and therefore you do not have > the privilege of posting information without answering for it when > questioned within the context of the discussion, and in a civil and > logical manner. This forum is not a toy for your deception, and don't > worry I will remind you of you lack of credibility anytime any place, > so how many of your posts on Usenet have you made with the intent to > mislead others just as you have here talk n dog? > > Now I'm glad you conceded that you cannot answer my question, which > then logically follows that you must admit their maybe be a direct or > indirect link between man made climate change, and changes in long > term interactions of the earths atmosphere and oceans that influence > large scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern > oscillation (ENSO), which then in turn could influence the tropical > cyclone formation, strength and life span as Dr. Gray utilizes ENSO as > a key factor in determining his tropical cyclone predictions. > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf > > Now im glad you conceded that you cannot answer my question, which > then logically follows that you must admit their maybe be a direct or > indirect link between man made climate change, and changes in long > term interactions of the earths atmosphere and oceans that influence > large scale oscillations of climate such as the El nino southern > oscillation (ENSO), which then in turn could influence the tropical > cyclone formation, strength and life span as Dr. Gray utilizes ENSO as > a key factor in determining his tropical cyclone predictions. > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf Should I just tell you how life was created too? Or what the meaning of life is? Or that the black holes are a product of cold fusion... Should I also tell you how Global Warming is there by created by cold fusion via space and time folding known as the worm holes that connect black and white holes? Do I have to explain everything, Once I impart you with all this divine knowledge will you vow to never use it for evil? Can I trust you? I think not... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:44:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:44:51 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: August tied for 4th Warmest on the 128-year NASA Record References: <1189453176.358789.60850@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > kT wrote: >> Peter Franks wrote: >>> Roger Coppock wrote: >>>> -- Tom Delay, an accused felon, >>> >>> What exactly is an "accused felon"? >> >> A convicted felon accused of yet another felonious crime. > > Ok, so Delay was convicted and is now accused of another crime? I > wasn't aware... He meant that it's not someone like Hillary that takes money from a person fleeing justice, because she can't be charged with possession of stolen property, since she didn't recall that a large percentage of her families supporters were still fleeing justice. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:46:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:46:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.invest,alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.legal Subject: Re: Global Warming Is A Hoax, Invented In 1988 References: <46e60f02@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1189496227.592758.105950@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <46e66fae$0$14167$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <46e66fae$0$14167$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carole wrote: > "Roger Coppock" wrote in message > news:1189496227.592758.105950@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com... >> This guy gets it wrong from the get go. >> >> On Sep 10, 8:44 pm, "Bonzo" wrote: >>> August 1st, 2006 - budsimmons >>> >>> Man-Made Global Warming Hoax >>> >>> Excerpts reprinted with permission from Tom Gremillion >>> >>> Tuesday, January 25, 2005 >>> >>> http://globalwarminghoax.wordpress.com/2006/08/01/global-warming-is-a... >>> >>> Global warming is a hoax, invented in 1988, that >> NOPE, This whack-O is not even close! >> Global warming is quite real and it was first >> described in 1824, by Fourier. Gee! He only >> missed by 164 years! > > But what about weather wars -- weather manipulation -- suppressed tesla > technology? > There are a massive amount of suppression of technology in science and > medicine and it is all achieved under the guise of "national security". > However, what it really amounts to is the public are being treated like > mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed shit -- all the better to enslave us. > > Carole > http://www.conspiracee.com Look up "over the horizon Radar" -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:51:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:51:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? - Erie man hopes so References: <1189538878.945400.53780@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <46e74941$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Australia's Greatest Space Pioneer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:25:45 +0930, Trevor Wilson > wrote: > >> **Yeah, right. What is the ratio of power out to power in. That should >> give a little tip. > > Better than the 1:100 or so from nucular fusion, I'll wager. > Are you looking for perpetual motion? power in = power out? 1 BTU in = 25 BTU out, create energy from nothing? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:52:43 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:52:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.chem,sci.physics Subject: Re: IPCC Peer Review Process an Illusion, Finds SPPI Analysis References: <1189550933.724276.134110@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <46e7433e$0$7152$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1189565600.787629.243310@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189565600.787629.243310@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mrbawana2u wrote: > On Sep 11, 9:40 pm, Rob wrote: > >> The SPPI is one of those Exxon funded PR groups. They have not peer >> review at all. > > They make a better case than you pathetic co2-cult-tards. > >> The IPCC reports are the most peer reviewed publication >> the world has yet produced. > > UN paid shills. > Everybody knows their agenda and it has nothing to do with climate. > > They do want to "soak" us. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:55:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:55:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.general Subject: Re: I am bored with Global Warming debate. References: <1189490038.590124.91990@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <46e63232$0$31086$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46e6332d$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46e6367e$0$6277$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46e699d1$0$844$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1189524676.755197.125880@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <46e6c6d7$0$1030$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1189530893.393774.87960@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46e73d75$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: > "Rob" wrote in message > news:46e73d75$0$6690$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... >> claudiusdenk@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>> On Sep 11, 9:49 am, Rob wrote: >>>> claudiusd...@sbcglobal.net wrote: >>>>> Fact: there is no peer-reviewed literature that gives us any reason at >>>>> all to suspect that increases in CO2 can/will cause increases in >>>>> atmospheric temperatures. >>> Why would you provide references for an argument you haven't >>> presented? >> Those are peer reviewed papers that show why the temperature increases >> when CO2 increases. > > Having read these papers you should be in good position to explain it to the > rest of us. So go ahead. What is your theory for why atmospheric > temperatures, supposedly, increase when CO2 rises? Go ahead, tell us. > Unless it's a secret or something. > > Is it a secret? When you say "Peer Reviewed" is that like, it takes a moron... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 01:58:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:58:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Media Ignore Al Gore's Financial Ties to Global Warming References: <46e60dc9@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46e61834$0$13999$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46e619e9@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46e621cb$0$22253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46e623d5$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <46e62de7$0$7152$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1189513762.272490.310970@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189550411.165406@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net> <1189558304.405933.53670@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <1189562763.938561@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net> In-Reply-To: <1189562763.938561@nnrp2.phx1.gblx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit imorf wrote: > Fran wrote: >> On Sep 12, 8:40 am, imorf wrote: >>> Fran wrote: >>>> No good purpose is served by feeding these copy and paste >>>> disinformation peddlers. When reasonable people respond to this kind >>>> of tosh, it only lends credence to that which is fossil fool >>>> propaganda. >>>> Save your energies for points worth debating with people who are >>>> serious and motivated by the wellbeing of the majority of humanity. >>>> Fran >>> huh? Haven't you been doing exactly what you are advising this poster >>> not to do, or have you just woken up to the fact that you have been >>> wasting your time replying to other nutjobs and trolls? >> >> Finally, you make a valid observation about something I've posted. >> Sooner or later, you had to I suppose. > > sure Fran, whatever you say > /smirk > > Even a blind pig turns up an acorn once in a while. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:00:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:00:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.physics Subject: Re: Wait!!! Wait!!! Wait!!! New Terrorist Target!!! References: <1189292385.336056.262690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <7OGEi.74324$xp6.1985@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46e44245$0$22871$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <2MZEi.2604$k22.2477@read2.cgocable.net> <46e45373$0$22917$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e5d1b3$0$22902$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e72a12$0$22964$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e72a12$0$22964$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > > "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote > in message news:kpCFi.51$372.22@read2.cgocable.net... >> >> "Harley" wrote >>> Harry Reed on CNN just announced Bin Laden claims to have 5 nukes, >>> and he said his number one target was Montreal Ca....I was >>> shocked...shocked I tell you. >> >> >> Hmmmm... What does the scientific community say..... >> >> Scientific American names Al Gore "Policy Leader Of The Year" >> >> November 7th, 2006 >> >> It sounds improbable: a documentary film about global warming, >> starring Vice >> President Al Gore, has become the third-highest-grossing documentary >> of all >> time. After his loss in the 2000 presidential election, Gore began >> giving a >> talk on global warming to audiences around the world. An Inconvenient >> Truth >> is the film version (also appearing in book form) of his multimedia >> presentation. Remarkably, its heavy use of PowerPoint slides actually >> adds >> to the narrative, which interweaves explanations of climate science with >> defining episodes from Gore's life to convey a mix of alarm and hope. >> >> The film is a paragon of clear science communication. It explains the >> workings of complex physical phenomena, such as the jet stream, while >> chronicling the reality of glaciers receding and the increase in carbon >> dioxide emissions and global temperatures. Gore, meanwhile, succeeds in >> bringing the "moral imperative" of reducing greenhouse gases to a >> personal >> level, attempting to convince viewers that their own actions can make a >> difference.>> > > ***The film is a paragon of clear science communication*** > > Cuckoo!!! Cuckoo!!! Cuckoo!!! > > Harley > > Perfuming the pig, I see... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:01:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:01:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.physics Subject: Re: Global Warming Due To The Ozone Layer Damage (Hole) References: <1189292385.336056.262690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <7OGEi.74324$xp6.1985@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk> <46e44245$0$22871$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <2MZEi.2604$k22.2477@read2.cgocable.net> <46e45373$0$22917$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <5M_Ei.2609$k22.178@read2.cgocable.net> <46e46d4f$0$22955$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e502ee$0$22950$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e72a11$0$22964$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e72a11$0$22964$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > > "ExterminateAllRepubliKKKans" wrote > in message news:NNBFi.45$372.3@read2.cgocable.net... >> >> "Harley" wrote... >>> The GoreBull Warming bedwetters are only a scientific community in >>> their own mind. >> >> Hmmmm... What does the scientific community say..... >> >> Scientific American names Al Gore "Policy Leader Of The Year" >> >> November 7th, 2006 >> >> It sounds improbable: a documentary film about global warming, >> starring Vice President Al Gore, has become the third-highest-grossing >> documentary of all time. After his loss in the 2000 presidential >> election, Gore began giving a talk on global warming to audiences >> around the world. An Inconvenient Truth is the film version (also >> appearing in book form) of his multimedia presentation. Remarkably, >> its heavy use of PowerPoint slides actually adds to the narrative, >> which interweaves explanations of climate science with defining >> episodes from Gore's life to convey a mix of alarm and hope. >> >> The film is a paragon of clear science communication. It explains the >> workings of complex physical phenomena, such as the jet stream, while >> chronicling the reality of glaciers receding and the increase in >> carbon dioxide emissions and global temperatures. Gore, meanwhile, >> succeeds in bringing the "moral imperative" of reducing greenhouse >> gases to a personal level, attempting to convince viewers that their >> own actions can make a difference.>> > > ***The film is a paragon of clear science communication*** > > ROTFLMAO.....You know for a genius you sure talk like a kook. > > Harley > He can't quite get into that space between genius and insanity. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:05:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:05:10 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? - Erie man hopes so References: <1189538878.945400.53780@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <46e73f27$0$1026$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Australia's Greatest Space Pioneer wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:51:43 +0930, Sylvia Else > wrote: > >> chatnoir quoted: >>> But researching its potential will take time and money, he said. One >>> immediate question is energy efficiency: The energy the RF generator >>> uses vs. the energy output from burning hydrogen. >> >> And physics lets us predict the result. It will require more RF energy >> to split the water than is obtained by burning the hydrogen. >> >> So, an interesting parlour trick, but no energy revolution. > > Sort of like nucular fusion, then? But several governments have wasted > billions of dollars on trying to make that trick energy neutral and, > real soon now, commercialy exploitable. I heard about a 13` year old boyscout that used smoke detectors to work out the kinks on a backyard fission reactor. He should be up for parole soon. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:12:32 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:12:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com><46e3ff96$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net><46e4221a$1$22884$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com><46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net><46e5c908$1$22927$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e6aa49$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e72851$1$22876$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e72851$1$22876$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: >> Are you? Now tell me in your own words why you dont think global >> warming is real...if you >> want me to keep responding to you. Because at this point I can only >> conclude that you lack the >> necessary intelligence to understand the concept. >> Your assignment: write a nice essay on why you think global warming >> dos'nt exist.> > > I have no problem believing there are warming trends just as I have no > trouble believing there are cooling trends. The cycles change, always > have, and always will. It rains...Global warming...it floods, Global > Warming...it becomes hotter than normal...Global Warming...it becomes > colder than normal...Global Warming...droughts = Global Warming....No, > cyclical changes occur, nothing new. There's just too many holes in the > GW theory for me to give it any credence. > > Harley Do you believe that Icarus was playing with that damn wax again and so the Gods are making Co2 and heating us up down here to keep that Icarus sucker grounded? Would you believe it if Google had a satellite picture of it? Would you believe, Al Gore is Icarus in disguise? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:28:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:28:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Global Warming Caused by Black Holes>>>Re: Black holes causing global warming References: <1189463126.943789.166530@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189477327.813618.264230@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <%mAFi.55877$t9.34981@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <1189533703.577530.158090@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189549342.245973.273930@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1189559522.546393.59930@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <1189576323.621985.51160@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189576323.621985.51160@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 11, 10:27 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:> > Should I also tell you how Global Warming is there ..... The problem > with the global warming theory...." > > LOL, you broke down when confronted with you own ignorance or > dishonesty; please take a walk to cure the anxiety before you reply as > it's for your own credibility.... And if you would cite your sources > as I have, trust is no longer the issue, its self responsibility to > cure ignorance, as you have demonstrated bound full amounts of > ignorance, and it is up to you to read more and dig yourself out of > the stupid hole you dug by making the rhetorical gibberish posts in > this discussion. > You posted a statement that essentially attempted to correlate the > cause of black holes, and tropic cyclones to global warming and so I > asked the following :Can you completely rule out that man made > emissions of green house gases and aerosols have any effects or > (secondary effects) on large scale oscillations of climate such as the > El Nino southern oscillation (ENSO), or shorter period north Atlantic > oscillations (NAO), as these are both influences on tropical cyclone > formation, strength and life span, please cite your sources in your > reply. I'm chuckling, this is one of the funniest BOT's I've ever seen on group... They should have programmed it with a little artificial intelligence. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:29:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:29:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Belching moose add to global warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy wrote: > "Hack" wrote in message > news:YAjEi.38026$7e6.1207@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/sc_afp/sciencenorwayclimate_070822191234&printer=1;_ylt=At4kYobBWJFimDz83AbnVunQOrgF >> >> Belching moose add to global warming >> > If anyone had made a claim like this 20 years ago they would have been > locked away. > > I just got for that one... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:38:53 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:38:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Belching moose add to global warming References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Andy wrote: >> "Hack" wrote in message >> news:YAjEi.38026$7e6.1207@bignews4.bellsouth.net... >>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070822/sc_afp/sciencenorwayclimate_070822191234&printer=1;_ylt=At4kYobBWJFimDz83AbnVunQOrgF >>> >>> >>> Belching moose add to global warming >>> >> If anyone had made a claim like this 20 years ago they would have been >> locked away. >> > I just got out for that one... > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 02:46:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:46:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.chem,sci.physics Subject: Re: Retreat of the warmists begins to accelerate References: <1189387336.869914.84130@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189448303.787455.204970@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob Cain wrote: > Lloyd wrote: > >> Uh, it's GLOBAL warming, remember? > > Not when the data supports a regional effect. And it does. Changing > land use is looking more and more to be the culprit where warming is > actually occurring (which Hansen's data seems to indicate does not > include the U.S.A.) > > As for Hansen's work, it seems that he didn't consider error bars and > his "illustrated" effect is nearly the same magnitude as the probable > measurement errors (which were largely systematic.) Oh my! > > I've no dog in this fight but the scrap is getting more and more > interesting by the day. (Hmmm, I guess that's not a very politically > correct metaphor these days.) > > One of the more interesting tangential things at > > http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=2031 > > was the following at the end of the long blog exchange: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This blog is protected by Spam Karma 2: 57221 Spams eaten and counting... > > Bad Behavior has blocked 6340 access attempts in the last 7 days. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If only we had those helpers here. :-) > > > > Bob "Things should be described as simply as possible, but no simpler." Well Bob, it's just not that simple... Dog -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 03:00:55 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 03:00:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e5c908$1$22927$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e6aa49$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e72851$1$22876$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote: > In article , > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> Harley wrote: >>>> Are you? Now tell me in your own words why you dont think global >>>> warming is real...if you >>>> want me to keep responding to you. Because at this point I can only >>>> conclude that you lack the >>>> necessary intelligence to understand the concept. >>>> Your assignment: write a nice essay on why you think global warming >>>> dos'nt exist.> >>> I have no problem believing there are warming trends just as I have no >>> trouble believing there are cooling trends. The cycles change, always >>> have, and always will. It rains...Global warming...it floods, Global >>> Warming...it becomes hotter than normal...Global Warming...it becomes >>> colder than normal...Global Warming...droughts = Global Warming....No, >>> cyclical changes occur, nothing new. There's just too many holes in the >>> GW theory for me to give it any credence. >>> >>> Harley >> Do you believe that Icarus was playing with that damn wax again and so >> the Gods are making Co2 and heating us up down here to keep that Icarus >> sucker grounded? >> >> Would you believe it if Google had a satellite picture of it? >> >> Would you believe, Al Gore is Icarus in disguise? > and we performing this experiment with unknown consequences > with no where to go it turns out badly for us > because? because we want to drive suvs? because we want to laugh at evol libruls? > thats an intelligent way to assess risks everything up to this last bit was BS, but in this last part you size it up fairly well. Every day I wake up is an "experiment with unknown consequences" and driving an SUV is just one of the perks of waking up again. Laughing at the Libs, that's just a genetic bonus. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 11:00:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:00:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e3ff96$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e4221a$1$22884$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <3hdFi.54002$t9.49964@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <46e6a952$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e7f811$0$47118$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> In-Reply-To: <46e7f811$0$47118$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit §ñühw¤£f wrote: > Talk-n-Dog pinched out a steaming pile > of: > >> §ñühw¤£f wrote: >>> You could have just gone to CPS and told on your daddy you know... >> I didn't want to get you in any trouble... >> >> > I'm not your daddy, k00k. > Look elsewhere for that child support money your mommy will use for > crack. > > -- > www.smirkingchimp.com But we love you daddy... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 11:07:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:07:54 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.usenet.kooks,alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Rush PROVES Gore Is An Idiot & The False Religion Of Global Warming References: <46e29d19$0$22894$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e55c07$0$47132$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e5c908$1$22927$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <46e6aa49$0$47126$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net> <46e72851$1$22876$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges wrote: >> everything up to this last bit was BS, but in this last part you size it >> up fairly well. >> >> Every day I wake up is an "experiment with unknown consequences" and >> driving an SUV is just one of the perks of waking up again. Laughing at >> the Libs, that's just a genetic bonus. > > interesting > > shrub-cheney argue that even miniscule risks of terrorism > justify vast expenditures of money > truncation of civil rights > imposes huge burdens on ordinary people > and destroying the army by searching for osama bin laden in baghdad > > i think you should write him angry letters > for hsi chicken little overreacting > > arf meow arf - nsa fodder - not just jenine > al qaeda terrorism nuclear bomb iran taliban big brother > if you meet buddha on the usenet killfile him W H A T ? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 12:31:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:31:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another lie References: <2STFi.17649$Y7.16140@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <1189613039.203707.6310@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189613039.203707.6310@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 8:47 am, "birdog" wrote:"Except of > > course when the forecasters want to dismantle our entire industrial > economy." > > US-CAP.org is a group for the reduction of green house gasses, whose > members are multinational corporations or entities that are part of > our industrial economy who foresee a need for change, and would rather > embrace those changes than acting in fear of them... > You're good, do you work for Hillary? Very slick wording. "Embracing change", that's good, and it's their option, if it's wrong they will lose. If you make co2 release a taboo or a law and it's wrong, we all lose. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 13:26:47 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:26:46 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another lie References: <2STFi.17649$Y7.16140@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <1189613039.203707.6310@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189615074.522194.165910@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189615074.522194.165910@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 9:31 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 12, 8:47 am, "birdog" wrote:"Except of > >>> course when the forecasters want to dismantle our entire industrial >>> economy." >>> US-CAP.org is a group for the reduction of green house gasses, whose >>> members are multinational corporations or entities that are part of >>> our industrial economy who foresee a need for change, and would rather >>> embrace those changes than acting in fear of them... >> You're good, do you work for Hillary? Very slick wording. >> >> "Embracing change", that's good, and it's their option, if it's wrong >> they will lose. If you make co2 release a taboo or a law and it's wrong, >> we all lose. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that >> impact crater, destined to be where my house is. >> >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. > > No political affiliation necessary for my posts that's why I cite my > sources, but im not sure if you got brain freeze from eating your > manure tainted ice cream and haven't learned that yet. You'll notice that I'm the one that you would have to cite, when it comes to internet info on bullshit in your ice cream... by your standards that makes me the standing authority on the subject and the least likely to be consuming it. You(on the other hand) could have been lapping it up for years until you stumbled upon this nugget of wisdom. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 13:27:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: soc.culture.irish,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: 1 Change to Save the Planet References: <1189602733.328314.195110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2BUFi.17679$Y7.1290@bignews3.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <2BUFi.17679$Y7.1290@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit birdog wrote: > "Thomas" wrote in message > news:1189602733.328314.195110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >> Pedophiles, when going to the shops for more sweets, try and reuse the >> same paper bag to refill with pick n' mix! Another thing, avoid sweets >> with extra wrappers and go for more ethical confectionery such as >> jelly babies, sherbert balls and licorice all sorts which have no >> individual paper or celophane wrappers. Oh, and try to use public >> transport to get to the school yard rather than driving. This way >> you'll be handing out "Sweets from a Carbon Neutral Stranger!" >> >> It could mean the difference between life and death to a polar bear >> family. > > You forgot the "single sheet of toilet paper". > > Polar bears don't use TP do they? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 13:44:38 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:44:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The ocean water heated by under water volcanoes, is causing weather and > temp to change... the polar ice to melt, The rise in Co2 is also from > these volcanoes. > > We're all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes. Here we go, another tectonic anomaly in the deep ocean.... An 8.2 and a tsunami, and maybe another under sea volcano releasing energy to the ocean water and maybe more co2 . The rim of fire - the Marianas eleven miles deep trench, Puerto Rico trench, five miles deep .... Mt St Helen...Hawaii....Belize ... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 13:46:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:46:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: soc.culture.irish,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: 1 Change to Save the Planet References: <1189602733.328314.195110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <2BUFi.17679$Y7.1290@bignews3.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WhiteWolf @iol.ie> wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:27:35 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> birdog wrote: >>> "Thomas" wrote in message >>> news:1189602733.328314.195110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... >>>> Pedophiles, when going to the shops for more sweets, try and reuse the >>>> same paper bag to refill with pick n' mix! Another thing, avoid sweets >>>> with extra wrappers and go for more ethical confectionery such as >>>> jelly babies, sherbert balls and licorice all sorts which have no >>>> individual paper or celophane wrappers. Oh, and try to use public >>>> transport to get to the school yard rather than driving. This way >>>> you'll be handing out "Sweets from a Carbon Neutral Stranger!" >>>> >>>> It could mean the difference between life and death to a polar bear >>>> family. >>> You forgot the "single sheet of toilet paper". >>> >>> >> Polar bears don't use TP do they? > > They don't have a trees/forest either... But you never hear them complain... > Thus proving they are not liberals/whiners! :) > > Ray > And they kill baby seals too. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 15:18:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:18:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,alt.politics,alt.politics.bush Subject: Re: Karner's new paper still shows dominant negative feedback [was Re: The debate's over: Globe is warming References: <2dosa1lcipn8lnbsg6d1l1onbv9ta0d8r0@4ax.com> <1118765596.950874.58800@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1118850983.080954.56320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1118885032.314900.275530@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3ko2b1lcbi72doq1a107lohags9a2fu8rp@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <3ko2b1lcbi72doq1a107lohags9a2fu8rp@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Ball wrote: > On 15 Jun 2005 18:23:52 -0700, "Britt" wrote: > >> >> Lloyd Parker wrote: >> >>> We're talking global. As I said, 5 C colder and we're in an ice age. >> So what, we should built a big 'ol woodstove an heat the Earth. If the >> Earth goes Popsicle, I can't think of anything we could do. My >> suggestion, enjoy life to the fullest, and don't worry too much. > > I try not to follow the suggestions of the colossally > ignorant. >>>>>>>>>>>>> You came to the right place <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 15:38:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:38:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 8, 9:03 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:" Were > all dead because we can't fix the volcanoes." > > And you are posting this statement above, on the global warming > discussion group is somehow supposed to imply that in your opinion > because we cannot "fix" volcanoes (followed by your rhetoric), somehow > the reader is supposed understand we cannot fix the effects of man > made emissions of green house gases causing climate change. I'm impressed that you looked more deeply than the obvious printed words here, unfortunately in this case(Which the likes of - I seldom repeat) there is no deep message. I do insert code/encrypted information, implied and literal, into my posts. Theobviousissometimestheonlymessage. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 15:51:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:51:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,sci.geo.oceanography Subject: Re: Global Sea Surface Temperatues 1850-2006 References: <1187643309.302412.85930@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Here, from Hadley Centre, are the global sea surface >> temperatures from 1850 to 2006. Please see: >> >> http://members.cox.net/rcoppock/HadSST2gl.jpg >> >> As predicted by Arrhenius over a century ago, >> the rate of sea warming is slower than global land >> warming. NASA GISS has global land surface >> warming at .58K/per century between 1880 and >> 2006. (Please see: >> http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts.txt) >> >> These data come from: >> http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/ >> >> There are no urban centers in the sea, but watch >> the fossil fools blame this on UHI anyway. > > What is or isn't important about global sea surface temperatures? Is the difference in temp between the sea and the land the same over your data set? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 15:59:23 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:59:22 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189626732.773042.250450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189626732.773042.250450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 12:38 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:"I'm > impressed that you looked more deeply than the obvious printed words > here, unfortunately in this case(Which the likes of - I seldom repeat) > there is no deep message." > > > Actually im not interested in your typing skills, nor your opinions/ > impressions, my posts here are meant to counter your rhetoric when i > choose to do so, which is really quite easy based on your limited > capacities, and the fact you seem to enjoy eating your manure tainted > ice cream while simultaneously demonstrating your ignorance on > usenet... > > OK, I already knew you weren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but the fact that you meant to counter my rhetoric, is a hoot. Keep up the fine work. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 16:41:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:41:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189626732.773042.250450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189628433.437044.28650@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189628433.437044.28650@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 12:59 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 12, 12:38 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:"I'm >>> impressed that you looked more deeply than the obvious printed words >>> here, unfortunately in this case(Which the likes of - I seldom repeat) >>> there is no deep message." >>> Actually im not interested in your typing skills, nor your opinions/ >>> impressions, my posts here are meant to counter your rhetoric when i >>> choose to do so, which is really quite easy based on your limited >>> capacities, and the fact you seem to enjoy eating your manure tainted >>> ice cream while simultaneously demonstrating your ignorance on >>> usenet... >> OK, I already knew you weren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but the >> fact that you meant to counter my rhetoric, is a hoot. Keep up the fine >> work. >> >> --http://OutSourcedNews.com >> I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that >> impact crater, destined to be where my house is. >> >> Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. >> Which at times are, one and the same... >> >> The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a >> bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the >> whole thing. - Gump That - >> >> How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves >> are as big as a squirrels ear. >> >> Insanity is only synapses deep. >> It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. > > LOL, my purpose for countering your rhetoric, is just an action of > revealing your statements for what they are, your attempts to make > implications about an issue for which you do not agree, or understand. > In another thread you demonstrate you cannot admit you may be > incorrect when pressed on an issue, and stuck by your words when I > demonstrated you either were ignorant, or intentional misleading > readers. Now you desire to posts on other threads, while not > addressing your ignorance or deceptions is showing you lack the > responsibility for your own actions, and those who lack responsibility > to take care of their own actions show a lack of self respect. So I > have no problem disrespecting somebody like you who does not respect > themselves, so keep posting, and when ever I choose, ill keep blowing > your stuff up, and don't worry, I don't care about your insults. > I must have missed that memo, the one that charged you with determining responsibility.... please stop, my sides are hurting from all the laughing. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 16:50:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 16:50:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? - Erie man hopes so References: <1189538878.945400.53780@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <46e74941$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <_7LFi.83309$pu2.21842@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <46e85088$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46e85088$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B J Foster wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Australia's Greatest Space Pioneer wrote: >>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:25:45 +0930, Trevor Wilson >>> wrote: >>> >>>> **Yeah, right. What is the ratio of power out to power in. That >>>> should give a little tip. >>> >>> Better than the 1:100 or so from nucular fusion, I'll wager. >>> >> Are you looking for perpetual motion? power in = power out? >> >> 1 BTU in = 25 BTU out, create energy from nothing? >> > > If you take mass out of the equation, actually, YES Where in the universe does that happen? Even the sun is going out. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 19:14:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:14:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,aus.politics,aus.tv,aus.general Subject: Re: Salt water as fuel? - Erie man hopes so References: <1189538878.945400.53780@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com> <46e74941$0$13928$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <_7LFi.83309$pu2.21842@bignews1.bellsouth.net> <46e85088$0$12802$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <46e8587e$0$18984$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <46e8587e$0$18984$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit B J Foster wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> B J Foster wrote: >>> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> Australia's Greatest Space Pioneer wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:25:45 +0930, Trevor Wilson >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> **Yeah, right. What is the ratio of power out to power in. That >>>>>> should give a little tip. >>>>> >>>>> Better than the 1:100 or so from nucular fusion, I'll wager. >>>>> >>>> Are you looking for perpetual motion? power in = power out? >>>> >>>> 1 BTU in = 25 BTU out, create energy from nothing? >>>> >>> >>> If you take mass out of the equation, actually, YES >> Where in the universe does that happen? Even the sun is going out. >> > > I have no answer to this OK, just asking, I thought you had something in mind. No harm in asking , huh. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 19:19:54 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:19:53 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189626732.773042.250450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189628433.437044.28650@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189630735.365550.82350@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189630735.365550.82350@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 1:41 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:" I > suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that > impact crater, destined to be where my house is."..."I must have > missed that memo, the one that charged you with determining > responsibility.... please stop, my sides are hurting from all the > laughing." > > > Dude based on your posts here, you missed more than a memo in life, > the full blown report passed you by a long time ago, so keep eating > that manure tainted ice cream of yours really fast to keep that brain > of yours numb, and your ignorance intact. And yeah I know im a funny > guy, but my posts here demonstrate your lack of capacities, honesty, > integrity, responsibility and credibility which you can take seriously > or not that's up to you, and a demonstration of your self-respect. > I was highlighting your lack of responsibility, since you neglected to get that memo to me. Now that I'm informed, I'll have to try not to be worried by it. Shit, now a lack of capacities... This Group stuff is getting complicated. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 20:14:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:14:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: >>> _ Meteorite caused Global Warming_ <<< Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites in the Arctic had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into something that they decided was probably life, it looked like single cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had left Mars and the rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's passengers. Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until the meteorite searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process they reconstituted the Alien Yeast with the water. Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is mostly Co2 and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on the planet Mars is gone, leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like the yeast consumed all the water on Mars. It has apparently started here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the polar ice and the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 20:20:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:20:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Polar Bears killed By Under water Volcanoes. References: <0gKEi.39184$7e6.25523@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <1189620634.847946.166030@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189626732.773042.250450@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189628433.437044.28650@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189630735.365550.82350@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189640536.089493.21720@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189640536.089493.21720@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 4:19 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:"I was > highlighting your lack of responsibility, since you neglected to get > that memo to me. Now that I'm informed, I'll have to try not to be > worried by it. Shit, now a lack of capacities... This Group stuff is > getting complicated""Our constitution protects criminals, sexual > deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same..." > > > Oh yeah, with respect to your statement pertaining to the U.S. > Constitutions protections, how about equality. The concept of > equality means you are not better than anybody else here, and > therefore anybody can ask you to clarify your rhetoric whether you > like it or not as that same constitution you mock provides, you the > ability to freely post your rhetoric, but along with freedoms, also > come the responsibilities in our society, which also apply to you. So > you may attempt to shift the argument away from your responsibilities, > you posted words under your own free will, which anyone can and should > make others responsible for the information posted on Usenet, i.e. > you want to subject others work to peer review, but you don't want you > words peer reviewed, and im pointing that simple fact out... > > Sorry, the NG is protected under Amendment one, free speech. The result is that you can't discriminate against my posts. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 20:45:18 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:45:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: >>> _ Meteorite caused Global Warming_ <<< References: <7h%Fi.90098$jH3.83040@bignews6.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:14:00 -0400, Talk-n-Dog wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> >> Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites >> in the Arctic had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into >> something that they decided was probably life, it looked like single cell >> fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had left Mars and the rock left >> with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes freeze dried, >> and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's passengers. >> >> Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until >> the meteorite searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process >> they reconstituted the Alien Yeast with the water. >> >> Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they >> exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on >> Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having >> been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in the >> Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the water >> level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply >> melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. >> >> Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is >> mostly Co2 and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on >> the planet Mars is gone, leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like >> the yeast consumed all the water on Mars. It has apparently started here >> on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the polar ice and the Co2 >> is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed >> by the yeast leaving us with CO2. > > Let me get this straight. We've been invaded by yeast that are > Marsaforming Terra? > And they keep calling you stupid on here? WAR OF THE WORLDS While the Eco-nuts are fixing cars to run on water, the world is fermenting around them. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Wed Sep 12 22:27:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:27:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: >>> _ Meteorite caused Global Warming_ <<< References: <7h%Fi.90098$jH3.83040@bignews6.bellsouth.net> <1189646452.117771.188450@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189646452.117771.188450@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 12, 5:45 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:"Soon > the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the > yeast... > > No problem why are you panicking, you see all we need to do here on > earth we is bake some more bread, and brew more beer if yeast were > going to be so plentiful... But Here is a link to a nasa website > dedicated to the "Martian design challenge web chat", which may > alleviate some of your ignorance pertaining to the planet mars, and > talk n dog, please take careful note of the grade level associated > with the students asking questions, and how your post that starts this > thread compares to their questions... > > http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/events/attend/102903/archive.html > Martian Design Challenge Webchat > October 29, 2003 > "Chat with NASA scientists to ask questions about human habitability > on Mars, and possibly life-forms that might survive in the Martian > environment. > http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/events/attend/102903/archive.html > > Martian Design Challenge Webchat > October 29, 2003 > "Chat with NASA scientists to ask questions about human habitability > on Mars, and possibly life-forms that might survive in the Martian > environment. > http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/events/attend/102903/archive.html > Thanks but I was lead to believe that you guys were as smart as the NASA people. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 01:06:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:06:44 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: ...Two More Huge Global Warming Victories! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Scott Lowther wrote: >> Jonathan wrote: >> >>> >>> Rober Murdoch, owner of News Corporation, along >>> with a myriad of film, tv, print and online corporations >>> including Fox News, has announced plans to >>> become carbon neutral by 2010. This is more >>> than just another large corporation going green. >> >> That's such wonderful news that I think I'll go burn my garbage in the >> fire pit to celebrate. > > Don't burn yourself, fat boy. > Look out for the CO2 police. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 01:10:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 01:10:36 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,rec.arts.movies.current-films Subject: Re: Al Gore sells 15,000sq ft mansion, vows "no more limousines or private jet rides" References: <1189366951.729188.317140@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189389499.782561.30300@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189438132.904255.17380@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189634550.934013.118200@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forge wrote: > In article <1189634550.934013.118200@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, > rander3127@gmail.com says... >>> Yea the socialist scam of 40mpg cars and solar pannels. It's good to >>> have Hannity to give us advice telling us we need to pay $80 a week in >>> a 6mpg SUV along with a massive heating bill at home so it helps >>> justify the cause of invading Oil Rich nations along with the 400% >>> stock increase in energy companies. >> But imagine if you owned stock (as many Americans do) in one of those >> companies. >> Instead of being a penniless leftist, that is. > > I'd rather be penniless than have sold my soul for something so > ridiculously fleeting as money. > > Besides, leftists have better sex. The Right gets sex in the Mens room while passing through airports. Talk casual and everywhere... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:02:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:02:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: aus.politics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Climate Change in the Mediterranean References: <1189654979.740305.30770@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189681224.728103.45000@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189681224.728103.45000@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt_sykes wrote: > On 13 Sep, 05:42, Fran wrote: >> ROME (AP) - Climate change is affecting Europe faster than the rest of >> the world and rising temperatures could transform the Mediterranean >> into a salty and stagnant sea, Italian experts said Wednesday. >> >> Warmer waters and increased salinity could doom many of the sea's >> plant and animal species and ravage the fishing industry, warned >> participants at a two-day climate change conference that brought >> together some 2,000 scientists and officials in Rome. >> But look at the tourist possibilities, like the dead sea, on a mega scale. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:07:06 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:07:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Stand-By For A Large Bonzo Bowel Movement. References: <1189672335.600887.227090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189672335.600887.227090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > On Sep 12, 11:29 pm, Bonzo wrote: >> Remember if its warm, we didn't cause it, >> if it smells its making money. >> > > You may not be aware of it, but the latest research shows that mammals > do indeed "smell" CO2--though it's claimed to be odourless. > > RL > Mosquitoes like co2, they must all be going insane. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:16:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:16:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Experts recommend reducing meat consumption to staunch GHG buildup References: <1189650666.713395.318570@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189690414.515965.30340@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189692307.388093.69700@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <46e92d52$0$22965$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e92d52$0$22965$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > > "Professor1942" wrote in message > news:1189692307.388093.69700@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... >> On Sep 13, 6:33 am, mrbawana2u wrote: >>> On Sep 12, 10:31 pm, Fran wrote: >>> >>> >"But eating less meat could definitely be one way to reduce gas >>> > emissions and climate change." >>> > Interesting ... albeit obvious. >>> >>> > Fran The Man >>> >>> More left-tard solutions that don't have a chance in hell of being >>> implemented. >>> Are there any other kind? >> >> >> These nutters have been trying to get us to stop eating beef for years >> now. Remember the vegetarian fad of the 90's? Aren't we supposed to >> be all dead from Mad Cow Disease by now?> > > Milk bad...milk good....eggs bad...eggs good....coconut popcorn oil > good...coconut popcorn oil bad...real butter bad...now real butter much > better than almost all the other butters...McDonalds good...now McDonald > dangerous... > > Each time the doomsayers of the media begin their end of the world > squeals...the fanatical and easily brainwashed bedwetters from the kook > left, fall for it like a ton of bricks...they always believe this time > is truly different than the past, and they are finally right...just like > they always thought in the past. > > Harley Mad cow... Hahh look what meat eating has done for my genius. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:18:25 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:18:24 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: The Discovery of Global Warming References: <13eidnaobuan150@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13eidnaobuan150@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Grumbine wrote: > In article , > Whata Fool wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:21:58 -0500, "Bill Habr" >> wrote: >> > Arrhenius did it by hand in the 1890s, Lets not use sexual overtones to attack people here. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:19:52 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:19:52 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: soc.culture.irish,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: 1 Change to Save the Planet References: <1189602733.328314.195110@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <46E92CB7.894CC22F@bwahahaha.indigo.ie> In-Reply-To: <46E92CB7.894CC22F@bwahahaha.indigo.ie> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael O'Neill wrote: > Thomas wrote: >> Pedophiles, when going to the shops for more sweets, try and reuse the >> same paper bag to refill with pick n' mix! Another thing, avoid sweets >> with extra wrappers and go for more ethical confectionery such as >> jelly babies, sherbert balls and licorice all sorts which have no >> individual paper or celophane wrappers. Oh, and try to use public >> transport to get to the school yard rather than driving. This way >> you'll be handing out "Sweets from a Carbon Neutral Stranger!" >> >> It could mean the difference between life and death to a polar bear >> family. > > > Sligo? > > Fucking Sligo TROLLs? > > Geez! > > M. Pedophiles are polluters too. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:23:00 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:22:59 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another major GW event References: <1189672587.852864.89370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189672587.852864.89370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > On Sep 12, 5:44 pm, Whata Fool wrote: >> An 8.4 earthquake, wow! >> >> But thankfully with a smaller tsunami, according to news. >> >> Darned global warming. > > Actually I did see a geology paper a while ago that claimed there was > a correlation between temperature and earthquakes. The posited theory > was that rock stress changes due to surface temperatures. Thus the > bromide about how earthquakes seem to strike when there's a big change > in temperature (usually cold to hot). > > RL > > Backwards, the energy from the earthquake is transferred to the water, sometimes some of that energy is manifested also as a tsunami. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:24:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:24:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Stand-By For A Large Bonzo Bowel Movement. References: <1189672335.600887.227090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189672335.600887.227090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > On Sep 12, 11:29 pm, Bonzo wrote: >> Remember if its warm, we didn't cause it, >> if it smells its making money. >> > > You may not be aware of it, but the latest research shows that mammals > do indeed "smell" CO2--though it's claimed to be odourless. > > RL > And Methane, but of course mine is odrless. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:29:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:29:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics Subject: Re: ...Two More Huge Global Warming Victories! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > kT wrote: >> Scott Lowther wrote: >>> Jonathan wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Rober Murdoch, owner of News Corporation, along >>>> with a myriad of film, tv, print and online corporations >>>> including Fox News, has announced plans to >>>> become carbon neutral by 2010. This is more >>>> than just another large corporation going green. >>> >>> That's such wonderful news that I think I'll go burn my garbage in >>> the fire pit to celebrate. >> >> Don't burn yourself, fat boy. >> > Look out for the CO2 police. > The DEA is now the DEAC. They bust up Co2 smugglers and Co2 organized crime syndicates. If there's two of you out there, they use the RICO Act to prosecute you. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:38:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:38:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Hurricane Season Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you noticed that, when a huricane season is less intense than predicted, the "media" treat it as: (1) there was something that STOPPED it from being a huge season (2) the computer models were correct, but the climate changed without warning (3) it wasn't so bad this time, but it will be because we predicted it... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:40:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:40:42 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,rec.arts.movies.current-films Subject: Re: Al Gore sells 15,000sq ft mansion, vows "no more limousines or private jet rides" References: <1189366951.729188.317140@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189389499.782561.30300@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189438132.904255.17380@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189634550.934013.118200@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Forge wrote: > In article <1189634550.934013.118200@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>, > rander3127@gmail.com says... >>> Yea the socialist scam of 40mpg cars and solar pannels. It's good to >>> have Hannity to give us advice telling us we need to pay $80 a week in >>> a 6mpg SUV along with a massive heating bill at home so it helps >>> justify the cause of invading Oil Rich nations along with the 400% >>> stock increase in energy companies. >> But imagine if you owned stock (as many Americans do) in one of those >> companies. >> Instead of being a penniless leftist, that is. > > I'd rather be penniless than have sold my soul for something so > ridiculously fleeting as money. > > Besides, leftists have better sex. > penniless, and now you learn that 70 year old Senators have better sex God it must hurt to be you... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 13:46:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:46:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Stand-By For A Large Bonzo Bowel Movement. References: <1189672335.600887.227090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189703460.138174.22510@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189703460.138174.22510@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 13, 10:07 am, Talk-n-Dog > wrote:"Mosquitoes like co2, they must all be going insane...Insanity > is only synapses deep.". > > LOL, wow then you must think that plants are insane as well, mmm.... > Only the plant that your smoking. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:03:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:03:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << In-Reply-To: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit skddlbyp wrote: > Acc. to the Oct Harper's Magazine "Findings," p.120, scientists have > extracted and reviveed an 8 million year old bacterium from the Earth's > oldest ice. > Although nobody asked, experts say "that the reemergence of ancient > microorganisms as a result of global warming" is "nothing to worry about." > So now I'm starting to worry. But, wait, the experts must be right. We > don't have to worry about the plagues "as a result of global warming," > because there is no global warming. > Besides that bacterium couldn't have have killed the dinosaurs. It takes > two. The bacterium/yeast caused global warming. Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites in the Arctic had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into something that they decided was probably life, it looked like single cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had left Mars and the rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's passengers. Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until the meteorite searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process they reconstituted the Alien Yeast with the water. Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is mostly Co2 and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on the planet Mars is gone, leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like the yeast consumed all the water on Mars. It has apparently started here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the polar ice and the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:06:57 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:06:57 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.space.policy,sci.space.history,alt.global-warming,alt.politics,uk.sci.weather Subject: Re: ...Two More Huge Global Warming Victories! References: <1189706443.522627.274450@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189706443.522627.274450@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BradGuth wrote: > On Sep 12, 4:11 pm, "Jonathan" wrote: >> ...and oil hit $80 a barrel today. It was as low as...$8 >> under President Clinton. > > It's technically free for the taking from Muslims. Gee whiz, I wonder > what went to terribly wrong? > - Brad Guth - > Now figure out why they want to kill us? It makes as much sense. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:21:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:21:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <1189707260.932278.170100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189707260.932278.170100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 13, 11:03 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote:Soon > the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the > yeast leaving us with CO2." > > Hey dog how are you doing today, maybe this would help (no problem, no > panicking, just a simple solution) you see according to your logic, > this really may work, and you will be a hero, all you to do is attack > the ocean eating yeast with borax... > > MadSci Network: Microbiology > Re: how does borax (sodium tetraborate) kill yeast? > http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-05/958849202.Mi.r.html > > I envisioned, building an elite force of Gynecologist to eradicate the yeast infection in the oceans of he world. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:22:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:22:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.energy.renewable,sci.energy,sci.chem,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Salt water is flammable when bombarded with radio frequency energy and could possibly be used as a fuel References: <1189469660.419854.278400@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e5fd03$0$32475$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46e63b01_1@news.tm.net.my> <5IwFi.2203$282.2192@trnddc01> <1189536610.096445.41940@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> <1189688192.438975.79280@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189695359.937159.53120@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You wrote: > In article <1189695359.937159.53120@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, > Lloyd wrote: > >> Go to Rustum's web site. The guy is pushing CDs on "Christian >> Healing" and the like. That leads me to take his pronouncement about >> salt water with, uh, a grain of salt. > > just a "grain", it seems to "Me" you need to scale your Salt UP, > a couple of "Orders of Magnitude"........ Reopen the salt mines for some overtime? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:25:34 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:25:33 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <1189707260.932278.170100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >> On Sep 13, 11:03 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote:Soon >> the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the >> yeast leaving us with CO2." >> >> Hey dog how are you doing today, maybe this would help (no problem, no >> panicking, just a simple solution) you see according to your logic, >> this really may work, and you will be a hero, all you to do is attack >> the ocean eating yeast with borax... >> >> MadSci Network: Microbiology >> Re: how does borax (sodium tetraborate) kill yeast? >> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-05/958849202.Mi.r.html >> >> *revised* edition I envisioned, building an elite force of Gynecologist to eradicate the yeast infection in Mother Earth. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:31:09 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:31:08 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Time Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The planet doesn't cycle to a calendar, the calendar cycles to planet. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:37:26 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:37:25 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189708315.570836.145630@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189708315.570836.145630@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit f. barnes wrote: > On Sep 13, 12:32 pm, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com" > wrote: >> http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/62157 > > It became non-pc to talk about over population at the precise moment > in history when it became just non-whites who were doing the over > populating. After that if you mentioned controlling the population > increase, people would say "You just want to control the numbers of > non-whites, you dirty racist." And people have this insane, > irrational, fear of being called racist even when they know that the > charge is untrue. > > And the answer is a resounding "yes"; there are too many people on > this planet. And that has been obviously true to anyone but a blind > fool for several decades. That is, unless you believe as some seem to > that humans are hive creatures. > Putin in Russia, jabbed a stick in your eye yesterday when he told Russians to make babies. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:51:04 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:51:03 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: <1189610266.378257.256380@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189709303.645634.40190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189709303.645634.40190@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit patrick.barnes@standardregister.com wrote: > On Sep 12, 11:54 pm, Michael Gray wrote: >> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:17:46 -0700, >> >> patrick.bar...@standardregister.com wrote: >>> On Sep 4, 11:36 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" >>> wrote: >>>> Let me guess, he voted Republican too. >>>> Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority >>> Yep, that vaunted Christian moral superiority that the vast majority >>> of Christians make no actual claims of having but anti-religious >>> zealots attribute to them so they'll have something to rant about. >>> The common Christian position is that every Christian is a sinner. >>> Not morally superior. That's what salvation is all about. >> "Salvation" makes no sense at all. >> It is an incoherent bunch of ad hoc babble. > > In your opinion. > It's God will... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 14:52:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:52:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.energy.renewable,sci.energy,sci.chem,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Salt water is flammable when bombarded with radio frequency energy and could possibly be used as a fuel References: <1189469660.419854.278400@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e5fd03$0$32475$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46e63b01_1@news.tm.net.my> <5IwFi.2203$282.2192@trnddc01> <4f0Gi.3307$1n1.2566@trnddc02> <1189698259.030159.96210@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e97625$0$10310$815e3792@news.qwest.net> <1189706502.695704.311550@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <46e98603$0$26351$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: <46e98603$0$26351$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anthony Matonak wrote: > IsaacKuo wrote: >> On Sep 13, 12:41 pm, "Morris Dovey" wrote: >>> Hmm. Have you ever _seen_ an H2/O2 flame? I've done it, but never seen >>> the flame... >> >> The flame in question is apparently rather visible. Why? >> I don't know. Maybe it's because of excess oxygen (the >> oxygen produced from the water plus the oxygen in the >> air)--oxygen is how the Aqueon's flame is made visible. > > Maybe it's the salt burning. > > Anthony The copper and iron and other trace mminerals.... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 15:18:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:18:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Bjorn Lomborg on the Colbert Report References: <1189606796.034665.22490@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189607237.346575.209090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189610090.363967.79720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189614027.924096.83840@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189619954.889756.58970@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189621023.737771.25640@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e89151$0$22175$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1189693625.451656.21900@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189701727.417500.205230@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189710452.530609.128310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189710452.530609.128310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 13, 11:42 am, mrbawana2u wrote: >>>> Maybe you should define grinding poverty. >>> Look around you. In many city centres in the US and in many rural >>> areas you will find grinding poverty. Poverty that prevents the >>> individuals from getting enough of a foothold to rise above it. >> Poor people in the US have air conditioning, heat, cable, and cars. > > I donate with every cent of tax that I pay. In Canada, health care is > universally accessible. When my son broke his foot playing hockey he > was taken care of immediately. No bills to pay. When my mother was > diagnosed with cancer, the family did not have to go into crippling > debt for her health care. When my childreb were born we happily left > the hospital knowing that we weren't going to have to get a second > mortgage to pay for the delivery. > Which Socialist system is going to find that cure for cancer, create a drug to cure Alzheimer's or perfect a transplant? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 15:31:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:31:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: <1189709869.794523.187760@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189709869.794523.187760@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Sebree wrote: > On Sep 4, 6:10 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Al Klein wrote: >>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:47 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>> wrote: >>>> Where is the "story" this is everyday stuff, like dog bites man news. >>> And, if someone claims that dogs don't bite men, "dog bites man" news >>> disproves the claim. >>>> This isn't a story, it's Propaganda to scare the people into sending >>>> money to the IRS. >>> No, it's "propaganda" to prove that being Christian doesn't make >>> someone morally better than non-Christians. >> Who in the hell is so stupid to think that being Christian would make >> them less human? There are cops judges and priests that break laws... >> >> Show me the magic bullet that cures any group of criminal behavior? > > Death. Dead people do not commit crimes. They vote for the Clintons and other lefties, and that's criminal and crime against humanity also. They try and some succeed - to "take it with them" refusing to pay the death TAX. They are possessing stolen government property. Some spend their Military Retirement monthly income, then they die before the end of that pay period and have to pay it back.... if they don't... we put them behind the bars at Forest Lawn. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 15:47:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:47:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: Reemergence References: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit skddlbyp wrote: > Acc. to the Oct Harper's Magazine "Findings," p.120, scientists have > extracted and reviveed an 8 million year old bacterium from the Earth's > oldest ice. > Although nobody asked, experts say "that the reemergence of ancient > microorganisms as a result of global warming" is "nothing to worry about." > So now I'm starting to worry. But, wait, the experts must be right. We > don't have to worry about the plagues "as a result of global warming," > because there is no global warming. > Besides that bacterium couldn't have have killed the dinosaurs. It takes > two. > > > > Bacteria divide... think about that. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 15:51:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:51:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: <1189709869.794523.187760@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <3egGi.84607$pu2.11465@bignews1.bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <3egGi.84607$pu2.11465@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Mark Sebree wrote: >> On Sep 4, 6:10 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> Al Klein wrote: >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:47 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>>> wrote: >>>>> Where is the "story" this is everyday stuff, like dog bites man news. >>>> And, if someone claims that dogs don't bite men, "dog bites man" news >>>> disproves the claim. >>>>> This isn't a story, it's Propaganda to scare the people into sending >>>>> money to the IRS. >>>> No, it's "propaganda" to prove that being Christian doesn't make >>>> someone morally better than non-Christians. >>> Who in the hell is so stupid to think that being Christian would make >>> them less human? There are cops judges and priests that break laws... >>> >>> Show me the magic bullet that cures any group of criminal behavior? >> >> Death. Dead people do not commit crimes. > > They vote for the Clintons and other lefties, and that's criminal and > crime against humanity also. > > They try and some succeed - to "take it with them" refusing to pay the > death TAX. They are possessing stolen government property. > > Some spend their Military Retirement monthly income, then they die > before the end of that pay period and have to pay it back.... if they > don't... we put them behind the bars at Forest Lawn. You never wondered why we have gates and fences at the grave yard? They are all criminals, they're tax evaders. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 19:33:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:33:48 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46e9851c$0$11043$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1189710668.629820.146300@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189724956.892994.86760@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189724956.892994.86760@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fran wrote: > On Sep 14, 5:11 am, Tunderbar wrote: >> On Sep 13, 1:44 pm, "Patriot Games" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> wrote in message >>> news:1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>> http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/62157 >>> Too many Muslims. >>> Too many Democrats. >>> Too many Communists. >>> Too many assholes. >>> Too many fags. >>> Too many fat women. >>> Too many bald men. >>> Too many criminals. >> Too many bigots > > Don't complain. He's working your side of the street. Can there ever > be too many voices raised against proposals for equitable > collaboration amongst human beings? > > Fran > Can we vote on that? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 19:42:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:42:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.politics.bush,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: SoT Christianity: NC Pastor Sentenced for Fraud, Tax Evasion References: <2e7sd3l87rbq2lakf4ef0q0v2eaup9ugg9@4ax.com> <1189610350.132344.102520@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189709232.218413.219890@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1o7je31str3s6rh1iatkvb6tofqhrm3nt2@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GW Chimpzilla's Eye-Rack Neocon Utopia wrote: > Al Klein wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 11:47:12 -0700, >> patrick.barnes@standardregister.com wrote: >> >>> On Sep 12, 5:57 pm, Al Klein wrote: >>>> On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 08:19:10 -0700, >>>> patrick.bar...@standardregister.com wrote: >>>>> On Sep 4, 11:09 pm, Al Klein wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:10:46 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Al Klein wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:16:47 -0400, Talk-n-Dog >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Where is the "story" this is everyday stuff, like dog bites man news. >>>>>>>> And, if someone claims that dogs don't bite men, "dog bites man" news >>>>>>>> disproves the claim. >>>>>>>>> This isn't a story, it's Propaganda to scare the people into sending >>>>>>>>> money to the IRS. >>>>>>>> No, it's "propaganda" to prove that being Christian doesn't make >>>>>>>> someone morally better than non-Christians. >>>>>>> Who in the hell is so stupid to think that being Christian would make >>>>>>> them less human? >>>>>> Who said anything that sounds even remotely like that? Christianity >>>>>> claims that being a Christian makes a person more moral than >>>>>> non-Christians. What Yang posts proves the assertion false.- >>>>> Exactly where does Christianity claim that? >>>> Where, according to Christianity, does morality come from? >>>> >>> For Christians, the common answer is that it comes from a desire to be >>> more Christ-like. But that doesn't answer the question. Again, where >>> does Christianity claim that being a Christian makes a person more >>> moral than a non-Christian? >>> >> Since atheists have no desire to be Christ-like, that's an implicit >> claim to being more moral than atheists. > The biggest problem Christians have is they claim morality but forgot ethics. Don't they claim, that they expect and try to be moral, but they are all sinners so they really aren't better, just in a hopeless cycle of self disappointment. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 19:46:50 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 19:46:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <13ej5rbr7jjju11@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <13ej5rbr7jjju11@corp.supernews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit skddlbyp wrote: >> Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and >> they exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving >> on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast >> having been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in >> the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the >> water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply >> melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. > > An interesting idea. Maybe it's happening. Some googling hints that a > hydrogen metabolism may occur in algae, and in some kind of photosynthesis. > But where does your Martian Yeast Infection get the Carbon to exhale? > > Transmutation -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 20:28:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:28:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Bjorn Lomborg on the Colbert Report References: <1189606796.034665.22490@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <1189607237.346575.209090@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1189610090.363967.79720@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189614027.924096.83840@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189619954.889756.58970@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189621023.737771.25640@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e89151$0$22175$d94e5ade@news.iglou.com> <1189693625.451656.21900@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189701727.417500.205230@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189710452.530609.128310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189710452.530609.128310@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 13, 11:42 am, mrbawana2u wrote: >>>> Maybe you should define grinding poverty. > I donate with every cent of tax that I pay. In Canada, health care is > universally accessible. When my son broke his foot playing hockey he > was taken care of immediately. No bills to pay. When my mother was > diagnosed with cancer, the family did not have to go into crippling > debt for her health care. When my childreb were born we happily left > the hospital knowing that we weren't going to have to get a second > mortgage to pay for the delivery. > Second mortgage? People are losing their houses right now.... add more taxes and see that number go up. When you add all your tax burden right now, I'm talking all the mandated expenditures that government forces you to make to survive. Tolls and sales and death, phone, utilities and all the special taxes, how much of your income is it? Now add up your mortgage costs and which is more, who gets more of your money? If someone loses their house and is homeless... who should they blame, the bank themselves or the government taxes? Then explain it to their kids. Mommy and Daddy make money but when it finally gets into their hands, taxes didn't leave enough to pay for a house. I had kids, some with insurance, some without, never was a concern of mine. I paid either way. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 22:38:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:38:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Hurricane Season References: <46e9c007$0$22908$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> <1189731279.531650.311130@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189731279.531650.311130@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 13, 5:49 pm, "Harley" wrote: >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >> >> news:LAeGi.84533$pu2.70835@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> >>> Have you noticed that, when a huricane season is less intense than >>> predicted, the "media" treat it as: >>> (1) there was something that STOPPED it from being a huge season >>> (2) the computer models were correct, but the climate changed without >>> warning >>> (3) it wasn't so bad this time, but it will be because we predicted >>> it...>>> >> A little over 2 weeks and it's Oct....All those catagory 5's better hurry up >> and decend on us or there will have to be a lot explaining to do from the >> kook fringe. >> >> Harley > > wow so does, Dr. Gray Fit your description of "kook fringe"? > > Extended Range Forecast of Atlantic Seasonal Hurricane Activity and > U.S. Landfall Strike Probability for 2007 > http://typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/2007/june2007/jun2007.pdf > Did he say that we will have more, and "more severe" storms due to GW? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 22:40:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:40:31 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Hurricane Season References: <46e9c007$0$22908$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> In-Reply-To: <46e9c007$0$22908$88260bb3@unlimited.teranews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Harley wrote: > > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:LAeGi.84533$pu2.70835@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> Have you noticed that, when a huricane season is less intense than >> predicted, the "media" treat it as: >> >> (1) there was something that STOPPED it from being a huge season >> (2) the computer models were correct, but the climate changed without >> warning >> >> (3) it wasn't so bad this time, but it will be because we predicted >> it...>>> > > A little over 2 weeks and it's Oct....All those catagory 5's better > hurry up and decend on us or there will have to be a lot explaining to > do from the kook fringe. > > Harley They should have predicted more Earthquakes due to Global Warming... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 23:17:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:17:55 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent? References: <1189707921.750720.182640@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189732180.621447.124230@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189738100.145631.302270@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189738100.145631.302270@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil. wrote: > On Sep 13, 9:45 pm, Jonathan Kirwan wrote: >> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:09:40 -0700, "Phil." >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Sep 13, 2:25 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >>>> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 >>>> A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent? >>>> While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite >>>> monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere >>>> (Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since >>>> 1979. >>>> This can be seen on this graphic from this University of Illinois site >>>> The Cryosphere Today, which updated snow and ice extent for both >>>> hemispheres daily. The Southern Hemispheric areal coverage is the >>>> highest in the satellite record, just beating out 1995, 2001, 2005 and >>>> 2006. Since 1979, the trend has been up for the total Antarctic ice >>>> extent. >>>> See rest of story & graphics:http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_tot... >>> I suggested to Cryosphere Today that they might include a graph >>> showing total sea-ice area and they've just put it up, it's near the >>> bottom of the site. It shows the total sea ice anomaly decreasing >>> over the last several years with an associated annual fluctuation. >> This chart? >> >> http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.... >> So with sea ice changing up and down all the time, what is the "normal" level of the oceans? When sea ice melts, does it raise the ocean, or bring it back to the level before the sea water froze? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Thu Sep 13 23:22:01 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:22:00 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent? References: <1189707921.750720.182640@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189732180.621447.124230@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189738100.145631.302270@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Phil. wrote: >> On Sep 13, 9:45 pm, Jonathan Kirwan wrote: >>> On Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:09:40 -0700, "Phil." >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2:25 pm, d....@hotmail.com wrote: >>>>> Tuesday, September 11, 2007 >>>>> A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent? >>>>> While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite >>>>> monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere >>>>> (Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since >>>>> 1979. >>>>> This can be seen on this graphic from this University of Illinois site >>>>> The Cryosphere Today, which updated snow and ice extent for both >>>>> hemispheres daily. The Southern Hemispheric areal coverage is the >>>>> highest in the satellite record, just beating out 1995, 2001, 2005 and >>>>> 2006. Since 1979, the trend has been up for the total Antarctic ice >>>>> extent. >>>>> See rest of story & >>>>> graphics:http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_tot... >>>>> >>>> I suggested to Cryosphere Today that they might include a graph >>>> showing total sea-ice area and they've just put it up, it's near the >>>> bottom of the site. It shows the total sea ice anomaly decreasing >>>> over the last several years with an associated annual fluctuation. >>> This chart? >>> >>> http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/global.daily.ice.area.... >>> > > So with sea ice changing up and down all the time, what is the "normal" > level of the oceans? When sea ice melts, does it raise the ocean, or > bring it back to the level before the sea water froze? > Circular dude -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 02:13:28 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:13:27 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.cecil-adams,alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh Subject: Re: Global Warming is caused by the Sun, the moon and the stars. References: <1189745976.525828.45760@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189745976.525828.45760@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit piggypalace@goodtimessociety.net wrote: > Global Warming is caused by the Sun, the moon and the stars. > The lunar calendar accurately predicts 2012 to be the date the gravity > of the planet Venus negatively affects the Moon's lunar trajectory and > causes disruptions in the weather patterns on the planet Earth. Known > only as, and exacerbated by, Global Warming. Though for communities of > the time, then dependent largely on agricultural industries, this was > known as the beginning of the end times or the apocalypse. > > > The event of Venus' orbit pulling the moon away from us only happens > once every 60,000 to 70,000 years and coincides with landmark claims > of human survival such as the book of Genesis and the predictions of > the Maya. > Ice ages are 80,000 years aren't they? > > In order to thwart this new enemy, or threat from outer space as I > like to call it, we need to re engineer the moons orbit back to a > position agreeable with life on earth. This should be the sole focus > of Global Warming talks and endeavors. > > Sincerely yours, > > Norman Christian Hoffmann > Editor in Chief > www.GoodTimesSociety.net > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 02:58:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:58:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistylien wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:SXeGi.84548$pu2.67@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> skddlbyp wrote: >>> Acc. to the Oct Harper's Magazine "Findings," p.120, scientists have >>> extracted and reviveed an 8 million year old bacterium from the Earth's >>> oldest ice. >>> Although nobody asked, experts say "that the reemergence of ancient >>> microorganisms as a result of global warming" is "nothing to worry about." >>> So now I'm starting to worry. But, wait, the experts must be right. We >>> don't have to worry about the plagues "as a result of global warming," >>> because there is no global warming. >>> Besides that bacterium couldn't have have killed the dinosaurs. It takes >>> two. >> The bacterium/yeast caused global warming. >> >> >> Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites in the Arctic >> had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into something that they decided was >> probably life, it looked like single cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had >> left Mars and the rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes >> freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's passengers. > > Their big lie is exposed. or their lack of thinking is exposed anyway. > > Those meteorites that allegedly came from Mars did not come from > Mars at all > The meterorits that hit both Earth and Mars came from some place else. > Not from one planet to the other. > You should be suspicious of those kind of so called scientists that > are that short on their thinking. > the same yeast landed on Mars and Earth, who cares where they're from? >> Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until the meteorite >> searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process they reconstituted the >> Alien Yeast with the water. > > Not likely when they come through our atmosphere they get burned > so hot nothing lives through that. > even tiny specks of duxt burn up coming into Earth's atmosphere. Maybe not. It was shaped like a wherly-gig and it came down like a maple seed. As it fell to earth the outer shell "burned" and cracked as it cooled and it broke away. They found single cell fossils in it. >> Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they exhaust Co2, >> similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a >> catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having been released from their icy stasis, began >> to consume the ice in the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, >> the water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply melting. >> It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. > Space yeast? It may be just a tad different. > Any yeast will be killed at only 120 to 140 deg F. > but the temp of them coming through our atmosphere is like 800 plus > degrees or even up to 10,000 deg. > nothinig can live through that but minerals and them changed by the > emence heat. Why didn't I think of that? Maybe it bounced off a spaceship and fell to Earth. or It hit a high flying Pterosaurs which cooled it and slowed it down. >> Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is mostly Co2 >> and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on the planet Mars is gone, >> leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like the yeast consumed all the water on >> Mars. It has apparently started here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the >> polar ice and the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be >> consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. > > When yeast grows it gives off alcohol and CO 2. > in equal amounts so is mars all alcohol now then? > no it is not.. These yeast make iron, "THE ~RED~ PLANET" DDdddaaaaahhhh wasn't that obvious.... We already have bacteria on earth that feed on iron. Do you have a well with nasty water that's full of iron? You may have space yeast in your well. Chlorination will fix'er up. It oxidizes the iron out of solution and it precipitates to the bottom of the well. It looks like a fine dust when precipitates out like that. HHHHhhhmmmmm mars has a fine red dust too. Chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). > > If you believe all that crap I have some ocean front property in Arizona > I would like to sell you cheeply but by the foot and it keeps on going arond > the ocean so I do not know how to stop measuring it once I get started > with my tap measure. > Cool I can start building the DOCKS right away. I'll have them done in time for the Global warming floods, Ore the next Tsunami. If I had known you'd need me to detail the whole process of the space yeast? I'd have just kept it quiet, you have a brain use it. It all works just like the Global Warming hypothesis, when something comes along that shoots a hole in the funding, you find something that makes it all work out. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 03:15:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:15:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Another major GW event References: <1189672587.852864.89370@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189752586.366768.308690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189752586.366768.308690@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > On Sep 13, 10:22 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> raylopez99wrote: >>> On Sep 12, 5:44 pm, Whata Fool wrote: >>>> An 8.4 earthquake, wow! >>>> But thankfully with a smaller tsunami, according to news. >>>> Darned global warming. >>> Actually I did see a geology paper a while ago that claimed there was >>> a correlation between temperature and earthquakes. The posited theory >>> was that rock stress changes due to surface temperatures. Thus the >>> bromide about how earthquakes seem to strike when there's a big change >>> in temperature (usually cold to hot). >>> RL >> Backwards, the energy from the earthquake is transferred to the water, >> sometimes some of that energy is manifested also as a tsunami. > > > No, that's what the paper said. This was a paper _predicting_ > earthquakes, not energy from earthquakes. > > RL > > > OOOoooppps ? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 03:21:27 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:21:26 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: Reemergence References: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistylien wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:ytgGi.84616$pu2.61412@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> skddlbyp wrote: >>> Acc. to the Oct Harper's Magazine "Findings," p.120, scientists have >>> extracted and reviveed an 8 million year old bacterium from the Earth's >>> oldest ice. >>> Although nobody asked, experts say "that the reemergence of ancient >>> microorganisms as a result of global warming" is "nothing to worry about." >>> So now I'm starting to worry. But, wait, the experts must be right. We >>> don't have to worry about the plagues "as a result of global warming," >>> because there is no global warming. >>> Besides that bacterium couldn't have have killed the dinosaurs. It takes >>> two. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Bacteria divide... think about that. > > That is nothing compared to when they start to muliply. > > but they do not subtract until their enviourment get too poison > for them and all their goodies are gone. > > Damn there was something in eighth grade I could have used, I went to class in seventh(picked up that amoeba reproducing chapter), then school was out, but the beach was more fun in eighth grade. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 03:25:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:25:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <1189707260.932278.170100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistylien wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:fcfGi.84560$pu2.5027@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>> On Sep 13, 11:03 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote:Soon >>> the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the >>> yeast leaving us with CO2." >>> >>> Hey dog how are you doing today, maybe this would help (no problem, no >>> panicking, just a simple solution) you see according to your logic, >>> this really may work, and you will be a hero, all you to do is attack >>> the ocean eating yeast with borax... >>> >>> MadSci Network: Microbiology >>> Re: how does borax (sodium tetraborate) kill yeast? >>> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-05/958849202.Mi.r.html >>> >>> >> I envisioned, building an elite force of Gynecologist to eradicate the yeast infection >> in the oceans of he world. > > The wine makers use Sodium Bisofite to combat the yeast and other > harmful bugs that spoil their wine. But it gives head aches and some people taste it. Do brewers make less than Gynecologist? Maybe Mother Earth won't mind. Then also these are SPACE~Yeast. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 03:31:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:31:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <1189753539.746399.283500@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189753539.746399.283500@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 13, 11:58 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:" > chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). " > > Yeah but all you need to do is break the cellular membrane of the > yeast, so maybe if you get a microscope and a real fine needle you can > kill the space yeast mechanically rather than chemically of course > that means more work for you, but I don't mind, and besides it will be > cleaner for the environment, which then means you can keep you comic > book hero status with the tragic character traits of complete > ignorance and absolute belligerence kept intact of course... > You are a green wienie, use a passive nontoxic method? I want to use toxic chemicals, I'll kill them and shorten the life of everything on the planet by ten years. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 04:25:21 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:25:21 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Computer models confirm> Meteorite caused Global Warming>Re: Reemergence References: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> <1189753539.746399.283500@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189753539.746399.283500@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 13, 11:58 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote:" > chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). " > > Yeah but all you need to do is break the cellular membrane of the > yeast, so maybe if you get a microscope and a real fine needle you can > kill the space yeast mechanically rather than chemically of course > that means more work for you, but I don't mind, and besides it will be > cleaner for the environment, which then means you can keep you comic > book hero status with the tragic character traits of complete > ignorance and absolute belligerence kept intact of course... > I ran a computer model, it estimated that it would take 100 years to kill all the yeast using this method, but the last drop of water will be consumed by the yeast in 99 years. I calibrated this model with the super accurate climate models and they confirm it, the planet will be uninhabitable in 99-100 years. The iron dust storms will be gigantic, it'll be cold, and hot, and the winds will increase and become motionless. I'm sending my DATA to the Al Gore institute for saving earth, so they can post it on the internet and everyone can google and cite it. Al Gore owns Google - you know. Damn, yesterday it was, whopper and fries or a chicken sandwich, now I have to decide whether or not to use toxic gas or physically annihilate another life form, or let the planet die? I'll look at my horoscope in the morning and then decide. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 04:59:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 04:59:19 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: Reemergence References: <13eiuagpm2nnmba@corp.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistylien wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:ytgGi.84616$pu2.61412@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> skddlbyp wrote: >>> Acc. to the Oct Harper's Magazine "Findings," p.120, scientists have >>> extracted and reviveed an 8 million year old bacterium from the Earth's >>> oldest ice. >>> Although nobody asked, experts say "that the reemergence of ancient >>> microorganisms as a result of global warming" is "nothing to worry about." >>> So now I'm starting to worry. But, wait, the experts must be right. We >>> don't have to worry about the plagues "as a result of global warming," >>> because there is no global warming. >>> Besides that bacterium couldn't have have killed the dinosaurs. It takes >>> two. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Bacteria divide... think about that. > > That is nothing compared to when they start to muliply. > > but they do not subtract until their enviourment get too poison > for them and all their goodies are gone. > OK laugh now, but when they answer a word problem like: two trains leave the station at the same time, one is going 70mph and the other 30mph... when they get that right, your in deep shit. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 05:24:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:24:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << <1189707260.932278.170100@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Mistylien wrote: >> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >> news:fcfGi.84560$pu2.5027@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>> On Sep 13, 11:03 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote:Soon >>>> the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the >>>> yeast leaving us with CO2." >>>> >>>> Hey dog how are you doing today, maybe this would help (no problem, no >>>> panicking, just a simple solution) you see according to your logic, >>>> this really may work, and you will be a hero, all you to do is attack >>>> the ocean eating yeast with borax... >>>> >>>> MadSci Network: Microbiology >>>> Re: how does borax (sodium tetraborate) kill yeast? >>>> http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-05/958849202.Mi.r.html >>>> >>>> >>> I envisioned, building an elite force of Gynecologist to eradicate >>> the yeast infection in Mother Earth. >> >> The wine makers use Sodium Bisofite to combat the yeast and other >> harmful bugs that spoil their wine. > Oddly enough I used to make wine, I didn't use sulfides, but then I had a few bottles pop their cork. Wire the cork and call it champaign. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 11:48:37 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:48:37 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: >>> Meteorite caused Global Warming <<< Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites in the Arctic had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into something that they decided was probably life, it looked like single cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had left Mars and the rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's passengers. Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until the meteorite searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process they reconstituted the Alien Yeast with the water. Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is mostly Co2 and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on the planet Mars is gone, leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like the yeast consumed all the water on Mars. It has apparently started here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the polar ice and the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will be consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. > > When yeast grows it gives off alcohol and CO 2. > in equal amounts so is mars all alcohol now then? > no it is not.. These yeast make iron, "THE ~RED~ PLANET" DDdddaaaaahhhh wasn't that obvious.... We already have bacteria on earth that feed on iron. Do you have a well with nasty water that's full of iron? You may have space yeast in your well. Chlorination will fix'er up. It oxidizes the iron out of solution and it precipitates to the bottom of the well. It looks like a fine dust when it precipitates out like that. HHHHhhhmmmmm mars has a fine red dust too. Chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). From - Fri Sep 14 12:03:24 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:03:23 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Humberto explodes over the Western Gulf of Mexico References: <1189742559.941628.3060@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189752463.797699.93600@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46EAAC37.C806508B@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Eeyore wrote: >> >> David wrote: >> >>> raylopez99 wrote: >>>> But you're right: GW's effects are overstated by the strong AGW >>>> advocates--a mere 2 inches mean sea level rise over the next 100 years >>>> is the lower bound of the IPCC 2007 report--i.e., trivial. >>>> >>> That's an old prediction. The minimum is more like 25 cm now. It'll >>> probably hit that in the next 15 years. >> >> Typical alarmism. >> >> Talk like that is cheap. > > So the recent near doubling of measured sea level rise, from 1.8 mm/yr > to 3.2 mm/yr has nothing to do with it. > Being as the moon effect the ocean level, I imagine these test were at 1 year intervals so the moon was back at the same position. But then the other planets were all different. We could wait 80,000 years for them to all line up back in the right position, I suppose. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 12:04:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:04:06 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Humberto explodes over the Western Gulf of Mexico References: <1189742559.941628.3060@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189752463.797699.93600@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46EAAC37.C806508B@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Eeyore wrote: >> >> David wrote: >> >>> raylopez99 wrote: >>>> But you're right: GW's effects are overstated by the strong AGW >>>> advocates--a mere 2 inches mean sea level rise over the next 100 years >>>> is the lower bound of the IPCC 2007 report--i.e., trivial. >>>> >>> That's an old prediction. The minimum is more like 25 cm now. It'll >>> probably hit that in the next 15 years. >> >> Typical alarmism. >> >> Talk like that is cheap. > > So the recent near doubling of measured sea level rise, from 1.8 mm/yr > to 3.2 mm/yr has nothing to do with it. > Is the glass half empty or half full? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 12:13:40 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:13:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Humberto explodes over the Western Gulf of Mexico References: <1189742559.941628.3060@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189752463.797699.93600@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46EAAC37.C806508B@hotmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: > > > I suppose. > > That's what crackpots like you do. You're good at it. > I need a a bit more context to figure where I might have written this. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 12:32:44 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:32:43 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: >>> Meteorite caused Global Warming <<< References: <1189786471.909891.71350@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189786471.909891.71350@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 14, 8:48 am, 13th monkey <13thmon...@talk-n-dog.com> wrote: >> Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites >> in the Arctic had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into >> something that they decided was probably life, it looked like single >> cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite had left Mars and the >> rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast comes >> freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry >> it's passengers. >> >> Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until >> the meteorite searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the >> process they reconstituted the Alien Yeast with the water. >> >> Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and >> they exhaust Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving >> on Hydrogen using Oxygen as a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast >> having been released from their icy stasis, began to consume the ice in >> the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing CO2, the >> water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply >> melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. >> >> Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from >> is mostly Co2 and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was >> on the planet Mars is gone, leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks >> like the yeast consumed all the water on Mars. It has apparently started >> here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of the polar ice and >> the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans will >> be consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. >> >> > >> > When yeast grows it gives off alcohol and CO 2. >> > in equal amounts so is mars all alcohol now then? >> > no it is not.. >> >> These yeast make iron, "THE ~RED~ PLANET" DDdddaaaaahhhh wasn't that >> obvious.... >> >> We already have bacteria on earth that feed on iron. Do you have a well >> with nasty water that's full of iron? You may have space yeast in your >> well. Chlorination will fix'er up. It oxidizes the iron out of solution >> and it precipitates to the bottom of the well. It looks like a fine dust >> when it precipitates out like that. HHHHhhhmmmmm mars has a fine red >> dust too. Chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). > > You might be interested in the following link, and if you hurry up, > you will make this years contest... > > http://www.readingwriters.com/contest.htm > A career in Sci-Fi writing, ya think? Somebody wrote a thriller about Global Warming, and sparked millions of Sci-Fi want-a-be's to ad chapter and verse to that one. It's a new internet sensation like blogging was, they're never ending books, the public adds chapter after chapter. It's the true interactive book. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 12:35:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:35:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Reject the False Religion of Climate Change! Embrace the ONE TRUE RELIGION - GETTING SHITFACED!!! References: <1189731108.709211.200390@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189740206.433505.178540@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189742229.405433.225850@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189778688.210228.6670@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul E. Lehmann wrote: > john fernbach wrote: > >> Bush's Head of Office of Science & Technology >> Says: AGW Is Real, Urgent >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >From the BBC >> Sept. 14, 2007 >> >> By Roger Harrabin >> Environment analyst, BBC News >> >> Bush aide says warming man-made >> >> The US chief scientist has told the BBC that >> climate change is now a fact. >> >> Professor John Marburger, who advises President >> Bush, said it was more than 90% certain that >> greenhouse gas emissions from mankind are to >> blame. >> >> The Earth may become "unliveable" without cuts >> in CO2 output, he said, but he labelled targets >> for curbing temperature rise as "arbitrary". >> >> His comments come shortly before major meetings >> on climate change at the UN and the Washington >> White House. >> >> There may still be some members of the White >> House team who are not completely convinced >> about climate change - but it is clear that the >> science advisor to the President and director of >> the Office of Science and Technology Policy is >> not one of them. >> >> In the starkest warning from the White House so >> far about the dangers ahead, Professor Marburger >> told the BBC that climate change was >> unequivocal, with mankind more than 90% likely >> to blame. >> >> Despite disagreement on the details of climate >> science, he said: "I think there is widespread >> agreement on certain basics, and one of the most >> important is that we are producing far more CO2 >> from fossil fuels than we ought to be. >> >> "And it's going to lead to trouble unless we can >> begin to reduce the amount of fossil fuels we >> are burning and using in our economies." >> >> For the rest of the article, click here: >> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6994760.stm > > When is the last time anyone in the Bush > Administration told the truth about anything? > > John, it amazes what lengths you will go in order > to find support for your BELIEFS. They made a deal with the Devil on this one, Bush sad? \ I'll believe it if you will. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 13:44:19 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:44:18 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46ea940d$0$26355$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1189785372.982655.36590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bill Ward wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:56:12 -0700, Tunderbar wrote: > >> On Sep 14, 9:00 am, "Patriot Games" wrote: >>> "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in >>> messagenews:Pa6dnXE_ZoO9K3TbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>> >>>> wrote in message >>>> news:1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>>> http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/62157 >>>> Define "too many?" >>> More than 1 is too many Muslims. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many Democrats. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many Communists. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many assholes. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many fags. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many fat women. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many bald men. >>> >>> More than 1 is too many criminals. >> More than zero is too many bigots. > > If I discriminate against bigots, doesn't that make me a bigot? > If you discriminate against non bigots also, then that would be equal treatment and not discrimination. Just treat everyone like shit, then you never have to worry about violating anyones civil rights. Ironic isn't it, or Poetic Justice. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 13:53:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:53:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <46ea940d$0$26355$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <1189785372.982655.36590@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Bill Ward wrote: >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:56:12 -0700, Tunderbar wrote: >> >>> On Sep 14, 9:00 am, "Patriot Games" wrote: >>>> "What Me Worry?" <__@____.___> wrote in >>>> messagenews:Pa6dnXE_ZoO9K3TbnZ2dnUVZ_gydnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>>> >>>>> wrote in message >>>>> news:1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >>>>>> http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/62157 >>>>> Define "too many?" >>>> More than 1 is too many Muslims. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many Democrats. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many Communists. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many assholes. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many fags. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many fat women. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many bald men. >>>> >>>> More than 1 is too many criminals. >>> More than zero is too many bigots. >> >> If I discriminate against bigots, doesn't that make me a bigot? >> > If you discriminate against non bigots also, then that would be equal > treatment and not discrimination. > > > Just treat everyone like shit, then you never have to worry about > violating anyones civil rights. Ironic isn't it, or Poetic Justice. OH yeh, "you worthless piece of crap".... I had to make sure I treated you like every other shit bag, so I wouldn't be discriminating. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 13:57:51 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:57:50 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Al Gore and James Hansen's secret References: <1189792464.698878.180870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189792464.698878.180870@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got > it made. > - Jean Giraudoux > You don't believe that... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 14:16:31 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:16:30 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Testing the greenhouse theory References: <1189791162.868695.83780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189791874.255740.66500@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189792403.784547.266660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189793221.849647.75060@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189793221.849647.75060@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 14, 10:53 am, chemist wrote: >> On Sep 14, 6:44 pm, columbiaaccidentinvestigation >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> On Sep 14, 10:32 am, chemist wrote: >>>> "First please clarify something, do you think that it is logical to >>>> attempt to disprove the possibility that man made emissions of green >>>> house gases can in fact have an impact on climate patterns, by the >>>> experiment you are alleging you can build and perform?" >>>> Yes. the mechanisms proposed for Greenhouse gas warming are >>>> that the gas absorbs more heat from the earth and exchanges it >>>> with other gases in the air causing warming. >>>> This mechanism can be tested by a relatively simple apparatus >>>> All that is necessary to do is to contain your samples in a >>>> containers which is a poor IR absorber >>>> Pass IR through them from a warm source through to whilst allowing >>>> heat to radiate to space from the upper surface >>>> measuring the temperatures. >>>> Global warming literature suggests that PTFE is a poor IR >>>> absorber. >>>> This will have to checked >>>> I also am taking measures to reduce the transfer of heat to and from >>>> the >>>> containers by convection. >>> How big of a container are you talking about because you would have to >>> make very very tall containers allowing the densities in your >>> containers to decrease with height, and tall enough to allow an >>> inversion layer to form at stratospheric heights? Then you would be >>> measuring the "temperatures" of the "samples", and replicating what we >>> have on earth, wouldn't be easier to use a balloon to collect you >>> readings, which then would allow you to conduct you experiment, but >>> never the less it still would be illogical conclude that such readings >>> would somehow disprove the possibility that man made emissions of >>> green house gases can in fact have an impact on climate patterns... >> Don't be daft all we are doing is testing a mechanism not >> a climate model. A couple of litres will do- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > the thermodynamic properties of your sample change with height, as the > densities of our atmosphere changes with height, and therefore to > realistically test the energy absorption properties of your sample the > "containers" would have to be tall enough to allow the gravitational > effects (please read about a molecules chemical potential) on I think you could adjust the "pressure/vacuum" to match various elevation levels. > molecules in our atmosphere decrease, forming the layering or > stratification of molecules found in the upper troposphere and > stratosphere which then would make your experiment relevant to a > discussion of the mechanisms of how green house gases absorb energies, > and in your opinion do not effect climate patterns, but until then you > experiment would be missing the mark.... > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 14:54:35 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:54:34 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Testing the greenhouse theory References: <1189791162.868695.83780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189791874.255740.66500@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189792403.784547.266660@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189793221.849647.75060@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <5eAGi.66175$Lu.18984@bignews8.bellsouth.net> <1189794642.000717.204780@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189794642.000717.204780@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 14, 11:16 am, Talk-n-Dog wrote:" I > think you could adjust the "pressure/vacuum" to match various > elevation levels." > > Interesting, but that still does not change the molecules potential > energy, the addition you proposed would only adjust for the densities > of your sample at what ever elevation you are conducting the test at, > but if you are testing energy absorptions the different starting > potential energies of the samples is a pretty important factor as it > influences stratification (layers where there are differences in > atmospheric composition) and should not be discounted, and therefore > you would not be properly observing the mechanisms of how green house > gases absorb energies in our atmosphere, the experiment would again > miss the mark of how in showing that increases in man made emissions > of green house gasses and aerosols do not effect climate patterns, (I > would think the balloon is sounding a little more realistic for your > data gathering at this point)... > Is there significantly less gravity at the top of a mountain than at the bottom? Density is a nebulous item here, density of electrons? What levels of atmosphere? The edge of space? Are we back to the Magnetosphere and solar winds? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 14:56:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:56:40 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment Subject: Re: Remember" The Cooling"? References: <46e8cde2$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au> <1189776533.896063.218110@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Swanson wrote: > In article <1189776533.896063.218110@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, alanmc95210@yahoo.com says... >> On Sep 13, 8:33 am, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) wrote: > >>> Yes, the Gulf Stream is a wind driven current, but the THC is NOT >>> the Gulf Stream and without the THC, Europe would (WILL) be colder. > >> http://denisdutton.com/newsweek_coolingworld.pdf >> >> From the April 28, 1975 "Newsweek": >> >> "Meteorologists... . are almost unanimous in the view that >> the(cooling) trend will reduce agricultural productivity for the rest >> of the century". >> >> So either an overwhelming fraction of Meteorologists predicted that >> the cooling trend would continue for the rest of the 20th century, or >> stories from Newsweek about consensus science are generall crap- A. >> McIntire > > We've learned quite a bit about weather and climate since 1975, > including the fact that the THC can have a large impact of climate. > We also have learned that the Great Salinity happened just about > the time things got colder in the late 1970's and early 1980's. > I think we can expect other GSA events as the Arctic sea-ice > melts further and more fresh water is able to move into the > GIN Seas. I think it's plausible that another large GSA could > result in colder conditions, and that we may be seeing one now... > > Meteorologists are not necessarily atmospheric scientists, BTW. > There like soccer Mom's that couldn't get a real degree aren't they? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 14:59:48 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:59:47 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.geo.meteorology,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Humberto explodes over the Western Gulf of Mexico References: <1189785701.041472.173620@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Swanson wrote: > In article , bward@REMOVETHISix.netcom.com says... >> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:01:41 -0700, Tunderbar wrote: >> >>> On Sep 13, 8:53 pm, swan...@NoScrewingAround.net (Eric Swanson) wrote: > >>>> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5128029.html -- > >>> So now it isn't the strength of the storm or the number of storms but how >>> quickly they develop that proves global warming. I get it now. >>> I hate to burst you bubble, but you only think you get it now. It'll change to marrow. >>> But I'll bet dollars to donuts that when a storm becomes very strong, that >>> will be proof of global warming. And when a storm is weak, that will be >>> proof. And when there are a lot of storms in a season, that will be proof. >>> And when there are no storms, that will be proof. And when a bird flies >>> into my living room window with a thud, the thud will be proof of global >>> warming. And when the bird doesn't run into my window, that will be proof >>> of global warming. And when ___________________ (enter naturally occurring >>> phenomenon) happens, that will be proof of global warming. And when >>> ___________________ (enter naturally occurring phenomenon) doesn't happen, >>> that will be proof of global warming. >>> >>> >>> Anyone getting tired of this infantile and unscientific game yet? >> Yeah. We should require that for anecdotal proof to be valid, it must at >> least be interesting or funny. > > With all the sockhead clowns posting these days, the laughter is deafening. > Where is there any mention of a connection between Humberto and AGW? > The apparent lack of reading comprehension is simply astounding. > > ROTFLMHO! > -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 15:15:42 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:15:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: John Shitburger - Science Advisor to your Idiot President References: <1189778811.019349.282050@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189783036.444175.21820@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > >> On Sep 14, 7:30 am, kT wrote: >>> john fernbach wrote: >>>> John Marburger > > > What do you think the angry belligerent and opinionated *ACTIONS* of > ignorant Americans everywhere does to the *WORLD*. > We make it so you can post this shit, and not meet the death squad tonight? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 17:12:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:12:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,misc.invest.stocks Subject: Re: Feel strong enough about AGW to BET on it? I didn't think so. References: <1189801281.960923.168850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189801281.960923.168850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit raylopez99 wrote: > Talk is cheap. Making mouth bets is for losers. If you believe AGW > [Anthropogenic Global Warming--human-caused GW] will be catastrophic > for the economy, then why not bet on it? Start by shorting the public > companies named below, including Warren Buffett's company, Berkshire > Hathaway. For those of you that don't know (and that's probably most > reading this NG, since you all have no money), Warren Buffett is the > most successful investor of all time and the world's second richest > man behind Bill Gates. And Buffett successfully bet that 2006 would > be a "low hurricane" season, and made a ton of money, when AGW 'tards > were saying the opposite. > > Go ahead, short the insurance companies. We'll see you in the > poorhouse. (I am not going to explain shorting, except to say that > you bet the company's stock price goes down rather than up). Be careful here, I have some BRKB I liked Dairy Queen and it's owned by them. Warren Buffet gave 41 Billion to the Bill Gates' save Africa fund. Why pray tell, would he waste it there if we're all going to die of Global Warming, doesn't Buffet and Gates want their children to survive? Of course they do, they would have spent it on GW if there were any truth to the story. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 17:15:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:15:05 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The fact that nights are warmer is an evidence, however. References: <1189788477.054699.218340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189799741.783921.106800@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189799741.783921.106800@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > Title> The facts that nights are warmer does not prove greenhouse > effect. > > The fact that nights are warmer is an evidence, however. > > > > On Sep 14, 9:47 am, chemist wrote: >> This could be caused by aircraft condensation trails > > Contrails, chemtrails, global warming, and fossil > fool shit trails, they've been debunked several > times before. > Does Co2 make clouds too? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 17:23:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:23:16 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The fact that nights are warmer is an evidence, however. References: <1189788477.054699.218340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189799741.783921.106800@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Roger Coppock wrote: >> Title> The facts that nights are warmer does not prove greenhouse >> effect. >> >> The fact that nights are warmer is an evidence, however. >> >> >> >> On Sep 14, 9:47 am, chemist wrote: >>> This could be caused by aircraft condensation trails >> >> Contrails, chemtrails, global warming, and fossil >> fool shit trails, they've been debunked several >> times before. >> > Does Co2 make clouds too? > A magical gas... thermal buffering properties, makes clouds, keeps trees alive, makes my soda pop bubble, puts out fires... and more. From - Fri Sep 14 17:26:11 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:26:11 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,misc.invest.stocks Subject: Re: Feel strong enough about AGW to BET on it? I didn't think so. References: <1189801281.960923.168850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189804978.804567.282590@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189804978.804567.282590@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tunderbar wrote: > On Sep 14, 4:12 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> raylopez99 wrote: >>> Talk is cheap. Making mouth bets is for losers. If you believe AGW >>> [Anthropogenic Global Warming--human-caused GW] will be catastrophic >>> for the economy, then why not bet on it? Start by shorting the public >>> companies named below, including Warren Buffett's company, Berkshire >>> Hathaway. For those of you that don't know (and that's probably most >>> reading this NG, since you all have no money), Warren Buffett is the >>> most successful investor of all time and the world's second richest >>> man behind Bill Gates. And Buffett successfully bet that 2006 would >>> be a "low hurricane" season, and made a ton of money, when AGW 'tards >>> were saying the opposite. >>> Go ahead, short the insurance companies. We'll see you in the >>> poorhouse. (I am not going to explain shorting, except to say that >>> you bet the company's stock price goes down rather than up). >> Be careful here, I have some BRKB I liked Dairy Queen and it's owned by >> them. Warren Buffet gave 41 Billion to the Bill Gates' save Africa fund. >> Why pray tell, would he waste it there if we're all going to die of >> Global Warming, doesn't Buffet and Gates want their children to survive? > > He's investing in vaccines. He creates the foundation and puts all his > money in it and thus makes it a tax write off. Then he buys lots of > stock in key vaccine manufacturers. The Foundation promotes the use of > vaccines and writes that money off as charity. They underwrite the > purchase of vaccines with poor third world countries. Then when the > third world countries takes the donations and throws their money in > for massive purchases of vaccines to vaccinate everyone and his dog, > the companies stock goes thru the roof and Gates makes more billions, > > Unfortunately the vaccines are useless and in many cases causes more > disease than it prevents. Bill and Warren get rich and third world > countries get poor and sick. > > >> Of course they do, they would have spent it on GW if there were any >> truth to the story. Maybe they should try distributing vaccines in the DQ shakes? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 17:32:17 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:32:17 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,misc.invest.stocks Subject: Re: Feel strong enough about AGW to BET on it? I didn't think so. References: <1189801281.960923.168850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189804978.804567.282590@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Tunderbar wrote: >> On Sep 14, 4:12 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> raylopez99 wrote: >>>> Talk is cheap. Making mouth bets is for losers. If you believe AGW >>>> [Anthropogenic Global Warming--human-caused GW] will be catastrophic >>>> for the economy, then why not bet on it? Start by shorting the public >>>> companies named below, including Warren Buffett's company, Berkshire >>>> Hathaway. For those of you that don't know (and that's probably most >>>> reading this NG, since you all have no money), Warren Buffett is the >>>> most successful investor of all time and the world's second richest >>>> man behind Bill Gates. And Buffett successfully bet that 2006 would >>>> be a "low hurricane" season, and made a ton of money, when AGW 'tards >>>> were saying the opposite. >>>> Go ahead, short the insurance companies. We'll see you in the >>>> poorhouse. (I am not going to explain shorting, except to say that >>>> you bet the company's stock price goes down rather than up). >>> Be careful here, I have some BRKB I liked Dairy Queen and it's owned by >>> them. Warren Buffet gave 41 Billion to the Bill Gates' save Africa fund. >>> Why pray tell, would he waste it there if we're all going to die of >>> Global Warming, doesn't Buffet and Gates want their children to survive? >> >> He's investing in vaccines. He creates the foundation and puts all his >> money in it and thus makes it a tax write off. Then he buys lots of >> stock in key vaccine manufacturers. The Foundation promotes the use of >> vaccines and writes that money off as charity. They underwrite the >> purchase of vaccines with poor third world countries. Then when the >> third world countries takes the donations and throws their money in >> for massive purchases of vaccines to vaccinate everyone and his dog, >> the companies stock goes thru the roof and Gates makes more billions, >> >> Unfortunately the vaccines are useless and in many cases causes more >> disease than it prevents. Bill and Warren get rich and third world >> countries get poor and sick. >> >> >>> Of course they do, they would have spent it on GW if there were any >>> truth to the story. > > Maybe they should try distributing vaccines in the DQ shakes? > > I'd like a Oreo Blizzard with bubonic plague sprinkles? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 17:34:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:34:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,misc.invest.stocks Subject: Re: Feel strong enough about AGW to BET on it? I didn't think so. References: <1189801281.960923.168850@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189804978.804567.282590@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Talk-n-Dog wrote: >> Tunderbar wrote: >>> On Sep 14, 4:12 pm, Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>>> raylopez99 wrote: >>>>> Talk is cheap. Making mouth bets is for losers. If you believe AGW >>>>> [Anthropogenic Global Warming--human-caused GW] will be catastrophic >>>>> for the economy, then why not bet on it? Start by shorting the public >>>>> companies named below, including Warren Buffett's company, Berkshire >>>>> Hathaway. For those of you that don't know (and that's probably most >>>>> reading this NG, since you all have no money), Warren Buffett is the >>>>> most successful investor of all time and the world's second richest >>>>> man behind Bill Gates. And Buffett successfully bet that 2006 would >>>>> be a "low hurricane" season, and made a ton of money, when AGW 'tards >>>>> were saying the opposite. >>>>> Go ahead, short the insurance companies. We'll see you in the >>>>> poorhouse. (I am not going to explain shorting, except to say that >>>>> you bet the company's stock price goes down rather than up). >>>> Be careful here, I have some BRKB I liked Dairy Queen and it's owned by >>>> them. Warren Buffet gave 41 Billion to the Bill Gates' save Africa >>>> fund. >>>> Why pray tell, would he waste it there if we're all going to die of >>>> Global Warming, doesn't Buffet and Gates want their children to >>>> survive? >>> >>> He's investing in vaccines. He creates the foundation and puts all his >>> money in it and thus makes it a tax write off. Then he buys lots of >>> stock in key vaccine manufacturers. The Foundation promotes the use of >>> vaccines and writes that money off as charity. They underwrite the >>> purchase of vaccines with poor third world countries. Then when the >>> third world countries takes the donations and throws their money in >>> for massive purchases of vaccines to vaccinate everyone and his dog, >>> the companies stock goes thru the roof and Gates makes more billions, >>> >>> Unfortunately the vaccines are useless and in many cases causes more >>> disease than it prevents. Bill and Warren get rich and third world >>> countries get poor and sick. >>> >>> >>>> Of course they do, they would have spent it on GW if there were any >>>> truth to the story. >> >> Maybe they should try distributing vaccines in the DQ shakes? >> >> > I'd like a Oreo Blizzard with bubonic plague sprinkles? > Africa will feel good, and it'll taste good. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 18:18:16 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:18:16 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: The facts that nights are warmer does not prove greenhouse effect References: <1189788477.054699.218340@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189807790.411847.325020@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189807790.411847.325020@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: > On Sep 14, 2:41 pm, Whata Fool wrote:" But the > difference seen between cloudy nights and clear > nights can be as > much as 15 or 20 degrees, and that is such a random and unpredictable > factor, the recorded weather data is simply not suited for averaging > either locally or globally." > > You might want to read the information below, as the results from > cloudsat, along with the many programs listed below may provide you > with the answers to your questions, or provide you with a better > understanding of why it is illogical to conclude that because an > observer cannot understand or does not yet see a possible pattern > presented to them by the data, that the patterns cannot exist, and > therefore it is illogical to state that because in his opinions > through implication the data is not suited for long term climate > modeling, that man made emissions of green house gases and aerosols > cannot have effects on long term climate patterns.... > Organized Chaos? Another Oxymoron. Having a chaotic system, means that the chaos is always there and that's the pattern? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 18:34:07 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:34:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: >>>Expanding Universe is Causing Global Warming<<< Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As the Universe expands the space between the atoms becomes greater, until we reach critical negative mass and the system breaks down. Right now the natural forces that cool us by releasing the suns energy are weakening. The change in the molecules is effecting the both the rejection of solar energy and the release of it. When the first signs of the critical point reaching absolute denigration in the late sixties the earth began to convulse with the energy accumulating and releasing. My computer model of the universe has confirmed that in roughly 100years the planet and the universe will switch polarity and everything will become a negative of it's self. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 18:37:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:37:56 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.energy.renewable,sci.energy,sci.chem,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: old news... Re: Salt water is flammable References: <1189469660.419854.278400@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <46e5fd03$0$32475$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> <46e63b01_1@news.tm.net.my> <5IwFi.2203$282.2192@trnddc01> <4f0Gi.3307$1n1.2566@trnddc02> <6DjGi.16035$ya1.13056@news02.roc.ny> <46e9e5b0$0$15393$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gregg wrote: > Jim wrote: >> "Anthony Matonak" wrote in >> message news:46e9e5b0$0$15393$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... >> >>> Gregg wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> Could you use a maser to remotely perform electrolysis on sea water? >>>> It might make a good weapon for burning off shore targets...... >>> >>> I shudder to think about how much water an average person contains. >> >> >> Hit the righ wavelength and the right collimation, throw in the >> right amount of power and you could pop people like corn...... >> >>> Anthony >> >> >> > I should have elaborated on my comment....... ;- ) Buttered/salted or regular, is all the elaboration needed. From - Fri Sep 14 18:55:02 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:55:01 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCnchhausen=3E=3E=3E_Expanding_Universe_c?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?aused_Global_Warming=3C=3C=3C?= References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As the Universe expands the space between the atoms becomes greater, until we reach critical negative mass and the system breaks down. Right now the natural forces that cool us by releasing the suns energy are weakening. The change in the molecules is effecting the both the rejection of solar energy and the release of it. When the first signs of the critical point reaching absolute denigration in the late sixties the earth began to convulse with the energy accumulating and releasing. My computer model of the universe has confirmed that in roughly 100years the planet and the universe will switch polarity and everything will become a negative of it's self. "Mass hypnotic Münchhausen Syndrome Manifesting in Global Warming Psychosis" -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 19:42:56 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:42:55 -0400 From: fucking idiot User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,sci.physics Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCnchhausen=3E=3E=3E_Expanding_Universe?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_caused_Global_Warming=3C=3C=3C?= References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <1188266811.223682.196220@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mather wrote: > "Wile E. Coyote" wrote in message > news:cjEGi.43279$wN3.8006@bignews2.bellsouth.net... >> >> >> As the Universe expands the space between the atoms becomes greater, until >> we reach critical negative mass and the system breaks down. Right now the >> natural forces that cool us by releasing the suns energy are weakening. >> >> The change in the molecules is effecting the both the rejection of solar >> energy and the release of it. When the first signs of the critical point >> reaching absolute denigration in the late sixties the earth began to >> convulse with the energy accumulating and releasing. >> >> My computer model of the universe has confirmed that in roughly 100years >> the planet and the universe will switch polarity and everything will >> become a negative of it's self. > > Learn about apostophe's and they're use's, you fucking idiot. If someone posts the secret to world peace, is it invalid if it has a typo? Cool, I'll try to be perfect like you. Gotta love people with so much to offer. From - Fri Sep 14 19:52:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:52:38 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: >>>Expanding Universe is Causing Global Warming<<< References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > As the Universe expands the space between the atoms becomes greater, > until we reach critical negative mass and the system breaks down. Right > now the natural forces that cool us by releasing the suns energy are > weakening. > > The change in the molecules is effecting the both the rejection of solar > energy and the release of it. When the first signs of the critical point > reaching absolute denigration in the late sixties the earth began to > convulse with the energy accumulating and releasing. > > My computer model of the universe has confirmed that in roughly 100years > the planet and the universe will switch polarity and everything will > become a negative of *its'* self. > *correction* -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Fri Sep 14 19:56:05 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:56:04 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,sci.physics,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?M=FCnchhausen=3E=3E=3E_Expanding_Universe?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_caused_Global_Warming=3C=3C=3C?= References: <1185502253.037506.50710@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185504131.875465.277210@m37g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <1185532131.143087.214820@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1185595075.608421.296780@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1186158504.754138.315770@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1186160635.858635.55430@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <1186223394.652660.141330@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1186499744.033982.66930@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1186542202.184520.49370@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1188003030.078908.251970@i38g2000prf.googlegroups.com> <60FGi.43305$wN3.11253@bignews2.bellsouth.net> <_3FGi.3199$OD5.1560@newsfe22.lga> In-Reply-To: <_3FGi.3199$OD5.1560@newsfe22.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve wrote: > On 14-Sep-2007, fucking idiot wrote: > >>>> My computer model of the universe has confirmed that in roughly >>>> 100years >>>> the planet and the universe will switch polarity and everything will >>>> become a negative of it's self. > > Does that mean honkey Americans have to sneak into Mexico? I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sat Sep 15 00:39:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:39:38 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189816884.013807.81840@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189819430.441842.245840@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189823881.281221.146950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189823881.281221.146950@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lorad474@cs.com wrote: > On Sep 14, 6:23 pm, mrbawana2u wrote: >> On Sep 14, 8:41 pm, lorad...@cs.com wrote: >> >>> On Sep 13, 10:32 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com" >>> wrote: >>>> Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? Options >>> Yes.. >>> But neither the repubs nor dems are doing anything about it. >> What can be done about it, tard? > > Promote family planning. > Quit sending free food to overpopulated places. > Set strict limits to prevent the destruction of wilderness areas.. > Stuff like that there, surplus protoplasm boy. > Spay and Neuter your Children... -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. Insanity is only synapses deep. It's not if, it's just when, No one gets out alive. From - Sat Sep 15 12:20:20 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:20:20 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Bush Scientist: Earth May Become "UNLIVEABLE">>from all the EcoLaws References: <1189837720.316068.36560@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189841696.637222.139710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <1189843123.124960.134780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189843123.124960.134780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Coppock wrote: > On Sep 15, 12:34 am, chemist wrote: > [ . . . ] >> By the way James Connaughton is NOT a scientist he is a lawyer. > > Yet, Bush picked him as his "top climate advisor." > Quoting the article, "US backing for the scientific > consensus was confirmed by President Bush's top > climate advisor, James Connaughton." Climate spends more time in the Liberal courts than in the lab. It would appear that EcoNazis' intend to force us all to live under Gaia law, and enforce it via the courts. Who better to fight all the EcoLaws. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 12:30:10 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:30:09 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.religion.end-times.prophecies,alt.global-warming,alt.bible.prophecy Subject: Re: >>> _Meteorite caused Global Warming_ << In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mistylien wrote: > "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message > news:aiqGi.65785$Lu.51558@bignews8.bellsouth.net... >> Mistylien wrote: >>> "Talk-n-Dog" wrote in message >>> news:SXeGi.84548$pu2.67@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > > >>>> >>>> Think back, just a while back the Scientist that were hunting Meteorites in the Arctic >>>> had been reviewing their finds. They had stumbled into something that they decided was >>>> probably life, it looked like single cell fossils. The reality is that the meteorite >>>> had left Mars and the rock left with a passenger, freeze dried yeast. Brewers yeast >>>> comes freeze dried, and a piece of mars expelled into space would freeze dry it's >>>> passengers. >>> Their big lie is exposed. or their lack of thinking is exposed anyway. >>> >>> Those meteorites that allegedly came from Mars did not come from >>> Mars at all >>> The meterorits that hit both Earth and Mars came from some place else. >>> Not from one planet to the other. >>> You should be suspicious of those kind of so called scientists that >>> are that short on their thinking. >>> >> the same yeast landed on Mars and Earth, who cares where they're from? > > > NO YEAST CAME FROM SPACE. > It could not survive earths entry. > there are tube worms and more that live around "vents" on the sea floor, the temp of the exhaust is 800 degrees... Life, when underestimated continues to surprise us. > We even got back 25 out of 27 space shuttles with organic life forms alive. > > >>>> Striking Earth in the Arctic the meteorite just laid there frozen, until the meteorite >>>> searchers torched the ice to get to the rock. In the process they reconstituted the >>>> Alien Yeast with the water. >>> Not likely when they come through our atmosphere they get burned >>> so hot nothing lives through that. >>> even tiny specks of duxt burn up coming into Earth's atmosphere. >> >> Maybe not. It was shaped like a wherly-gig and it came down like a maple seed. As it >> fell to earth the outer shell "burned" and cracked as it cooled and it broke away. >> They found single cell fossils in it. >> >> >>>> Being that these yeast are Alien, it happens that they eat water, and they exhaust >>>> Co2, similar to brewers yeast but alien so it's surviving on Hydrogen using Oxygen as >>>> a catalyst and generating Co2. The yeast having been released from their icy stasis, >>>> began to consume the ice in the Arctic. The yeast has been consuming ice and producing >>>> CO2, the water level of the ocean has remained stable so the water was not simply >>>> melting. It's being turned into Co2 by the yeast. >> Space yeast? It may be just a tad different. >> >>> Any yeast will be killed at only 120 to 140 deg F. >>> but the temp of them coming through our atmosphere is like 800 plus >>> degrees or even up to 10,000 deg. >>> nothinig can live through that but minerals and them changed by the >>> emence heat. there are tube worms and more that live around "vents" on the sea floor, the temp of the exhaust is 800 degrees... Life, when underestimated continues to surprise us. >> Why didn't I think of that? Maybe it bounced off a spaceship and fell to Earth. >> or >> >> It hit a high flying Pterosaurs which cooled it and slowed it down. >> >>>> Noticing that the atmosphere of Mars where the Meteorite/rock came from is mostly Co2 >>>> and very little Hydrogen or Oxygen and the water that was on the planet Mars is gone, >>>> leaving the excessive Co2 behind, it looks like the yeast consumed all the water on >>>> Mars. It has apparently started here on earth also. The yeast have consumed parts of >>>> the polar ice and the Co2 is rising. Soon the Earth will look like Mars, the Oceans >>>> will be consumed by the yeast leaving us with CO2. >>> When yeast grows it gives off alcohol and CO 2. >>> in equal amounts so is mars all alcohol now then? >>> no it is not.. >> These yeast make iron, "THE ~RED~ PLANET" DDdddhhhaaaaahhhh wasn't that obvious.... >> >> We already have bacteria on earth that feed on iron. Do you have a well with nasty water >> that's full of iron? You may have space yeast in your well. Chlorination will fix'er >> up. It oxidizes the iron out of solution and it precipitates to the bottom of the well. >> It looks like a fine dust when precipitates out like that. HHHHhhhmmmmm mars has a fine >> red dust too. Chlorine kills yeast too(maybe even space yeast). >> >>> If you believe all that crap I have some ocean front property in Arizona >>> I would like to sell you cheeply but by the foot and it keeps on going arond >>> the ocean so I do not know how to stop measuring it once I get started >>> with my tap measure. >>> -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 12:46:36 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:46:35 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.environment,alt.politics,talk.environment,alt.politics.immigration,alt.global-warming Subject: Re: Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? References: <1189704751.203701.133780@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189816884.013807.81840@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Franks wrote: > lorad474@cs.com wrote: >> On Sep 13, 10:32 am, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com" >> wrote: >>> Does Our Planet Have Too Many People? Options >> > Can you cite anything to substantiate your claim that the US is > "increasingly living beyond their own national abilities"? (1) Al Gore quit Lear Jetting to the Seven-Eleven for a loaf of bread? (2) The US had to build a wall to keep people from running to a better life in Mexico? (3) We only send billions in aid to the rest of the world? -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 12:50:59 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:50:58 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Bush Scientist: Earth May Become "UNLIVEABLE" Without CO2 Cuts! References: <1189837720.316068.36560@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189840790.277712.3610@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <9rRGi.6$204.2@newsfe12.lga> <1189864669.758631.185760@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189869106.669524.211810@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189869395.507729.320480@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <1189870340.672692.67610@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> <93TGi.18$gd1.9@newsfe06.lga> In-Reply-To: <93TGi.18$gd1.9@newsfe06.lga> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >> On Sep 15, 8:21 am, kT wrote: >>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>> On Sep 15, 8:14 am, kT wrote: >>>>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>>>> On Sep 15, 8:06 am, kT wrote:" The only >>>>>> hypocrisy I'm ever engaged in here > > I only have myself to satisfy. I suggest you try hanging out in airport bathrooms... Dear Abby Dear Abby, you are what you are and you ain't what you ain't. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 12:54:41 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:54:41 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Bush Scientist: Earth May Become "UNLIVEABLE" Without CO2 Cuts! References: <1189837720.316068.36560@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189840790.277712.3610@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <9rRGi.6$204.2@newsfe12.lga> <1189864669.758631.185760@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189868695.556885.52140@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > john fernbach wrote: > >> So - what about that, eh? George Bush's chief science advisor telling >> the BBC that climate change is a real and urgent problem. > > What this is about is the *DEMONSTRABLE* damage John Shitburger has > inflicted on the scientific institutions of the United States. > > The man is an embarrassment to the nation. You aren't from the US. > Look to the EcoWarriors that have taken the battle to the Liberal Courts to see who is undermining science. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 13:07:45 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:07:44 -0400 From: "Wile E. Coyote" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: John Shitburger - Science Advisor to your Idiot President References: <1189778811.019349.282050@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189783036.444175.21820@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189871927.547878.66490@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1189871927.547878.66490@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: > CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN - Back to political name-calling. > > What fun! More fun than thinking about the CLIMATE, no? > > And we don't even have to THINK to do the name-calling! For most of > us, it just comes automatically! > > The fact remains that Bush's top science advisor, who presumably is > NOT a "liberal," leftist, or extreme environmentalist in any way, has > just proclaimed that AGW is a real problem and that it's "90% certain" > that CO2 is contributing to it. Or words to that effect. > > This cuts across the usual political lines, doesn't it? > > > > > On Sep 14, 4:46 pm, kT wrote: >> Talk-n-Dog wrote: >>> kT wrote: >>>> columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: >>>>> On Sep 14, 7:30 am, kT wrote: >>>>>> john fernbach wrote: >>>>>>> John Marburger >>>> What do you think the angry belligerent and opinionated *ACTIONS* of >>>> ignorant Americans everywhere does to the *WORLD*. >>> We make it so you can post this shit, and not meet the death squad tonight? >> I am not the 'world'. >> >> But to yourself, you are the entire world. >> >> That's the fundamental difference between you and I. I can take a picture of me, and then one of the world, which one are you in? The difference is, I'm OK with the world and your angry at it. -- http://OutSourcedNews.com I suppose I could buy meteor insurance too, to help rebuild on that impact crater, destined to be where my house is. Our constitution protects criminals, sexual deviants and U.S. Senators. Which at times are, one and the same... The problem with the global warming theory, is that a theory is like a bowl of ice-cream, it only takes a little dab of bullshit to ruin the whole thing. - Gump That - How to outsmart Global Warming -- Plant your corn when the oak leaves are as big as a squirrels ear. I'll check the "Consensus Reference Guide" to see if it's a listed consensus. From - Sat Sep 15 13:20:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:20:39 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: John Shitburger - Science Advisor to your Idiot President References: <1189778811.019349.282050@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189783036.444175.21820@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189871927.547878.66490@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wile E. Coyote wrote: > Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: >> CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN - Back to political name-calling. >> >> What fun! More fun than thinking about the CLIMATE, no? >> >> And we don't even have to THINK to do the name-calling! For most of >> us, it just comes automatically! >> >> The fact remains that Bush's top science advisor, who presumably is >> NOT a "liberal," leftist, or extreme environmentalist in any way, has >> just proclaimed that AGW is a real problem and that it's "90% certain" >> that CO2 is contributing to it. Or words to that effect. >> >> This cuts across the usual political lines, doesn't it? >> Did he proclaim that My Chevy did it? Did he proclaim what "contributing" Co2 has to do with it? The SUN also Contributed to it. Every amoeba is contributing, but if the earth is warming, the only thing on earth it can be is Co2? He's a lawyer, pin him down on that statement. From - Sat Sep 15 13:25:39 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:25:38 -0400 From: 13th monkey <13thmonkey@talk-n-dog.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming Subject: Re: John Shitburger - Science Advisor to your Idiot President References: <1189778811.019349.282050@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1189783036.444175.21820@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> <1189871927.547878.66490@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Talk-n-Dog wrote: > Wile E. Coyote wrote: >> Cleopatra_Enterprise_Institute-Queen_of-DeNile wrote: >>> CHANGING THE SUBJECT AGAIN - Back to political name-calling. >>> >>> What fun! More fun than thinking about the CLIMATE, no? >>> >>> And we don't even have to THINK to do the name-calling! For most of >>> us, it just comes automatically! >>> >>> The fact remains that Bush's top science advisor, who presumably is >>> NOT a "liberal," leftist, or extreme environmentalist in any way, has >>> just proclaimed that AGW is a real problem and that it's "90% certain" >>> that CO2 is contributing to it. Or words to that effect. >>> >>> This cuts across the usual political lines, doesn't it? >>> > > > Did he proclaim that My Chevy did it? Did he proclaim what > "contributing" Co2 has to do with it? The SUN also Contributed to it. > Every amoeba is contributing, but if the earth is warming, the only > thing on earth it can be is Co2? > > He's a lawyer, pin him down on that statement. he's paid to get voted for Bush, and there is a vast number of suckers that will believe in GW, so they'll believe just about anything. What a great bunch of supporters, we can tell them anything to scare them into voting Bush/Republican. From - Sat Sep 15 13:55:08 2007 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 13:55:07 -0400 From: Talk-n-Dog User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,sci.environment,talk.environment,alt.politics.republicans Subject: Re: Bush Scientist: Earth May Become "UNLIVEABLE" Without CO2 Cuts! References: <1189837720.316068.36560@50g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <1189840790.277712.3610@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <9rRGi.6$204.2@newsfe12.lga> <1189864669.758631.185760@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189868695.556885.52140@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1189876815.579696.196800@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kT wrote: > john fernbach wrote: >> On Sep 15, 11:54 am, XXXXXXX wrote: >> >> John Shitburger has >>>> inflicted on the scientific institutions of the United States. >>>> The man is an embarrassment to the nation. You aren't from the US. >> Dr. John Marburger is not actually a climate scientist